RASER
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RE: North Korea
Mr.Ferris, seeing you do tours to NK, these are my interests to see in NK:
Ryugyong Hotel, in particualr see inside.
Supreme Leader, Kim Jong-un, yes i want to meet him in real.
Yodok, Kwan-li-so #15, labour camp.
Pyeonghwa Motors, in particular the FIAT manufacture division.
Room 39 [Bureau/Office 39] with a view of import/export N.Korean products.
Grave/tomb of ex Supreme Leader Kim Jong-il, to pay my respects.
Taedonggang Brewery, for tasting and plant inspection.
Kaesong Industrial Park, with a view of North Korean goods for export.
Some sort of organised bike ride around the capital of Pyongyang, with interaction with the local people.
Visits to food markets and shopping centres where the local population attend.
Whats your thoughts on that lot, very keen to see all that, can you arrange it?
NOT interested in a hold-my-hand minder tour
"Lifes about, shooting your load"
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RE: North Korea
(02-07-2013 04:11 PM)RASER Wrote: Mr.Ferris, seeing you do tours to NK, these are my interests to see in NK:
Ryugyong Hotel, in particualr see inside.
Supreme Leader, Kim Jong-un, yes i want to meet him in real.
Yodok, Kwan-li-so #15, labour camp.
Pyeonghwa Motors, in particular the FIAT manufacture division.
Room 39 [Bureau/Office 39] with a view of import/export N.Korean products.
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I don't like to think my trips are "hold your hand" but you cant escape the fact that you are required to have North Korean guide/minders along.
Grave/tomb of ex Supreme Leader Kim Jong-il, to pay my respects.
Taedonggang Brewery, for tasting and plant inspection.
Kaesong Industrial Park, with a view of North Korean goods for export.
Some sort of organised bike ride around the capital of Pyongyang, with interaction with the local people.
Visits to food markets and shopping centres where the local population attend.
Whats your thoughts on that lot, very keen to see all that, can you arrange it?
NOT interested in a hold-my-hand minder tour
"Lifes about, shooting your load"
Just real quick, some of this stuff is possible: In Rason you are allowed to shop in local markets and convert and use local currency.
The Taedonggang Brewery has a bar, not sure if you can get in to see the plant- a visit there is allowed but not on normal trip itineraries, I'm going there in March, will pass on my experience.
The mausoleum of Kim Il sung and Kim Jong Il is open again, I am also going there in March. I have been and seen Kim Il sung, the most bizarre experience in my life.
Some of my friends at Koryo Tours were brought into the Ryugyong Hotel, their pictures from the inside were the first to ever be published.
Koryo also offers North Korean bike trips - not sure if they do Pyongyang, but who knows.
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I dont like to think of the private tours I lead as "hold my hand", but there is no escaping that you must have North Korean guides and minders.
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RASER
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RE: North Korea
Just real quick, some of this stuff is possible: In Rason you are allowed to shop in local markets and convert and use local currency.
The Taedonggang Brewery has a bar, not sure if you can get in to see the plant- a visit there is allowed but not on normal trip itineraries, I'm going there in March, will pass on my experience.
The mausoleum of Kim Il sung and Kim Jong Il is open again, I am also going there in March. I have been and seen Kim Il sung, the most bizarre experience in my life.
Some of my friends at Koryo Tours were brought into the Ryugyong Hotel, their pictures from the inside were the first to ever be published.
Koryo also offers North Korean bike trips - not sure if they do Pyongyang, but who knows.
-I dont like to think of the private tours I lead as "hold my hand", but there is no escaping that you must have North Korean guides and minders.
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Thanks for reply!
Yeah, this would be TheParty reply:
Visit ROOM 39 "it does not exist"
Visit Gulag camp/prison "it does not exist"
Meeting The Great Leader "does exist, but he is not interested"
Bomb out on 3 me think?
"Lifes about, shooting your load"
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RE: North Korea
Traveling to North Korea alone is going to be a challenge due to the political situation, for westerners. Chinese businessmen already travel alone and ditto for exchange students in Pyongyang, so the "uniqueness" and "closeness" is somewhat diluted as some people are already interacting with foreigners. Pyongyang is really modern and clean, there's a picture of a Hummer H2, Mini, and plenty of VWs in many YouTube videos. It's not the West but not the hellhole often described.
There's a blog about a Russian dude who grew up in NK (parents were diplomats at the Russian Embassy in NK) and returned to study in North Korea. He was able to travel alone in Pyongyang, interact with regular people, and such. However, he took classes in special classrooms where he was partnered with selected NK nationals (who were trusted and from the elite), he could only enter his university through a special entry far apart from any NK natives, and he lived on a restricted dorm...the location was difficult to get into and he could only interact with certain people, again...from the elite. The guy talked about how he could not get lucky with any NK girls and was reminded by someone ( can't remember who) that foreigners and NK girls can't mix because NKs are pure.
Here's the link to his blog, http://ashen-rus.livejournal.com/ (it's in Russian)
Here's a description in English. http://www.nknews.org/2011/07/a-blogger-...ng-part-1/
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RE: North Korea
Actually there seems to be a way around it if you have the money:
http://www.pyongyangproject.org/
If you ever wanted to study korean now's your chance. Highest opportunity to get the notch I've ever seen.
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RE: North Korea
(05-31-2013 08:25 AM)Vorkuta Wrote: I've just paid a deposit and will be going in November for a 5 day stay in North Korea.
I know there is a no fraternising with the locals rule but fuck that, I'm going all out to escape my guides and get a bang.
I hear there is a massage parlour in the basement of one of the hotels which offers extras so at the very least I'll get a 'happy massage' out of it.
Vorkuta,
Since November is just around the corner, it will be interesting to hear whether you are doing anything to prepare for your N. Korean trip, and also once you take the trip whether you are successful in escaping the guides - b/c if you really play your cards right, you may just be able to have success in escaping the guides.... but then possibly any N. Korean person you encounter may be scared to death to interact with you in helping you to get the bang (unless you know some Korean language, that may be helpful).
For example, if you did escape, what might be your target - some hotel receptionist or you could escape to the University campus somewhere and maybe some of those girls may speak English or whatever other languages that you speak.
It would be interesting to hear how any kind of escape attempt turns out.. and i would imagine in the real world, they would not really allow you to escaped for a very long period of time without shit hitting the fan.
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