Post: #1

this will be somewhat graphic, also i'm not saying for guys to go and actually do what i did, i was in a shitty period of my life doing almost nothing due to my age and job prospects but i'm positive you will get some value regardless

-to anti-fappers, this thread is not an attempt to troll and you can google any of the terms you are unfamiliar with, also i'm in no way mocking your way of doing things if what you do works for you that's fine but i'm sure for some men out there it will greatly widen their perspective on things, i want to get across is the actual benefits


So i decided to go against my programming and resist the urge to fapp for a full 4 nights. Give me an extra edge for the weekend or so i thought.

What happened- When i decide to fapp it again i have blue balls within 5 mins (that feeling when you withhold from orgasm far to long while being stimulated and are punished for it) and when i do cum i feel like i have just been kicked in the balls. Anyone else experienced this?

Anyway that aside I want to go into some detail on what happens when you do the opposite. And i mean the EXTREME opposite.


My experience on the matter

I naturally have a very high sex drive what i did took it to levels far beyond.

First let me explain why i believe i'm pretty qualified to be speaking about this. From the age 17 to 18 I was unemployed for a year. During the winter of 2008 I decided to do an experiment. Take on board at this point in my life I was unemployed, had been chucked out of education and was sleeping 12+ hours a day, usually awakening at 5pm and going to bed at 5am. I wasn't depressed just exceptionally bored and it was a hard time to get jobs. I was pretty much spending 5+ hours of myself being awake just me and the internet.


What i did

I decided that for an experiment i would see if i could jack off 10 times a night every night for a month. This process would start at 10pm and it was done in as a short amount of time as possible.


Results

-First thing i noticed was a dramatic increase in seminal fluid. Reason being i was exhausting all my resources by around the 3-4th orgasm (this would later increase to 6-8). By using common sense it's pretty obvious that by completely draining my body I was forcing it to overcompensate.

-Second thing i noticed was a gradual decrease and eventually complete removal of the effects of the refractory period. I recommend you at least wiki the subject. Basics are though its the period of time where you cannot get an erection after orgasm. My refractory period got so low that i attempted to beat the world record for most male orgasms in an hour. The record is 16 i got to 14.

For those not just wanting to be just good at picking up women but being a fuck they will remember i recommend mastering yours, this will allow you to have an orgasm, maintain your erection and fuck again, this process can be put on repeat.

Also remember that what turns on women most whether it be a rape fantasy or a man willing to give up his freedom and marry her is the fact that she is desired. Nothing shows a women that she's desired more than a guy who gets constantly hard for her and fucks her relentlessly.

-Third thing, probably the most important point to men who actually want to increase their libido by not fapping. After my month was over i decided to go back to my usual 3 a night. I could not. My body had become accustomed to 10. It actually wanted more. To begin with the challenge seemed like a chore but basically just turned my sex drive into an insatiable monster.


For normal men

I was obviously an extreme case and unless your unemployed or you have already conquered your refractory period doing that challenge is probably just retarded.

But here's the jist of what i'am saying. What are you doing when you actually refuse to unleash your desire. Your balls get full of cum and you want to release it. But your actual sex drive, would it not make sense that the fact your not using your cum suggest's to your body to slow down production.If vice-versa is true then why wouldn't it.

Suggestion

I had a very high sex drive to begin with i'd like to point out but i'd say the average men or men with lower sex drives consider at least developing the ability to have 3 orgasms within the space of 10 minutes, this should allow your penis to develop resistance to the oxytocin weakening your cock and desire, except for the nights before you go out to game in which case only have one.

Also the effects of porn on women not being able to arouse you, i don't buy it. If you read my peru trip reports i was fucking like a machine while also jacking it 1-3 times in hostel toilets during the days.

Post: #2

Post: #3

Scorpion whats your pic supposed to be, i can't see shit on my computer.

Post: #4

Interesting counterpoint. Do you have any credible resources discussing this, that you could link to?

Post: #5

I kind of want to try this. How long did it take to start noticing results?


Also,

(10-29-2012 02:25 PM)Rick91 Wrote:  The record is 16

Challenge accepted

Post: #6

with or without porn? what did you do to protect your skin, jacking off for hours every day is a huge stress. i doubt u enjoyed your 6th orgasm, its more like addictive feeback loop you where hanging in.

Post: #7

(10-29-2012 02:25 PM)Rick91 Wrote:  fact that she is desired. Nothing shows a women that she's desired more than a guy who gets constantly hard for her and fucks her relentlessly.

This is very true. I always tell guys nothing say I love you like a good hard dicking

I think this is just a case where you have an unusually high sex drive and your fapping is just not having much of an impact. For the average guy jacking off or having sex will decrease their desire to go hunting.

Post: #8

(10-29-2012 08:32 PM)void Wrote:  with or without porn? what did you do to protect your skin, jacking off for hours every day is a huge stress. i doubt u enjoyed your 6th orgasm, its more like addictive feeback loop you where hanging in.

I guess you'd use copious amounts of lotion even if your uncircumcised to avoid abrasion injuries. His comment about porn on the last sentence suggested he uses porn.

Also Lecithin helps increase your loads, take 4-6 daily, half in the morning and half in the evening. It's pretty cheap, something around $15 for a huge bottle of 400. Keep it refrigerated.

Post: #9

Wonder how much zinc the OP takes?

Post: #10

Post: #11

Interesting findings. I've noticed that when I start having sex more often I generally feel the need to jack it off more. Its like the body gets momentum when trying to adjust to the additional activity so it makes sense.

Post: #12

I don't have any credible resources to link to other than facts about the refractory period. You will just have to take my word for it or actually attempt such a thing yourself.

I did use porn but I have never ever felt like choosing porn over a real life women. Its just never been a problem to me, when i watch porn i usually imagine that the guys dick is mine and try to picture what the chicks cunt or ass would feel like.

I seen results within the first day, and as for lube Iam not circumcised and i've been jacking off since i was about 10 I have not been bothered with cuts or abrasions from jacking it too much since i was about 12 and that only happened like once when i tried dry humping pillows.

Post: #13

By results the next day i mean i woke up with more brutal wood than usual and i was popping semi's like every 30 mins that could just be me and my minds doing though.

Post: #14

I'm horny as fuck. I never last longer than 10 minutes during the first round. When I was in high school, I got used to just throwing another condom on and usually lasting about 3x the time. Girls often comment that they've never seen a guy who could do that. I guess I've conquered my refractory period already.

Post: #15

All of my best fucks were girls i went full out with 6-7 times bareback. I think it's also important that you actually orgasm i think they love it but kinda feel down a bit because its over. Well not with me it isn't. Tell them some shit about how your dick wants them so bad and you have never had this happen before. They'l think they are special, super desired and I can almost ensure very little men on the planet can achieve this meaning you will definitely BE ONE COCK SHE REMEMBERS.

Post: #16

So you fapped 10 times a day an sat around depressed an sleeping 12 hours a day....... no thanks, but congrats on your "cock to remember"

Post: #17

Yeah i know it was an epic lifestyle.

A pointer though i do not do this anymore. I jack off 3 times a night most nights unless i go out to game, and once a week i will blast out 10-20 to just really clear the pipes and get those balls working overtime again.

Post: #18

Only ever reach 20 if i mess around on my phone during the day. Sundays are usually the day that I unleash hell.

Post: #19

How is that even possible? Do you just sneak off every hour or so and jerk it?

Post: #20

I'll just be playing my ps3 and i'll get bored, pause the game, scope out some porn on my android (those phones were designed for porn by the way), get a boner within moments and just jack it. I do this every 8-10 mins for about 2-3 hours. I don't set out to do that but usually that's what happens.

20 times is a bit of an exaggeration that only happened like once and i don't know why i went so overboard that day. Actually i do i was watching pumping iron on youtube and it was in like 12 parts, i just jacked it between each segment. Usually on sunday though, i have a lazy day, no weights, no work so yeah i just let loose.

It's not even like i'm trying to do it. I think it's just my way of dealing with boredom. It's not like if i have actual shit to do i give everything up and go to the toilet for a wank.

It definitely has it's pro's and con's but overall i'd say my habits have made my sex drive stronger within 24 hours than your average guy's is who withholds for a week.

I thought that was the main point in guys giving up wanking cause they wanted to be hornier so they would approach more women. I personally think that mindset will just make approaching far more harder on yourself. I approach regardless i think 95 per cent of mens issues with approaching are rejection related or he has self image issues.

Post: #21

I'll also point out i try and withhold until after 10 pm everynight because i actually have shit to do but on sundays fuck it, who gives a shit about sundays.

Post: #22

Dagonet recently posted on . He's not advocating you try the challange, but it's the first blog post I have seen that goes against the manosphere's no fap mantra.

Also - my friends who were really good with women all masturbated a lot. One friend does it every day - he literally cannot go a day without it.

I've often wondered about the correlation.

Post: #23

I have a fairly low sex drive and I'm not horny. Will this make me hornier?

Post: #24

@torontokid

Will i already had a pretty high sex drive but it definitely made me hornier than usual. I'd say try it. Good thing is once your sex drive is high you don't have to try.

@Walderschmidt

just checked out that article i see there is more than a few members of the manosphere experiencing similar things. I wonder where this may lead. It would be interesting to see what would happen if guys who did the no fapp challenge decided to try the destruction of the refractory period challenge. The Fapp a lot challenge challenge is a hell of a lot more fun.

Another thing is yeah it does feel great to cum if you haven't orgasmed in a while but i get that feeling if i just dont jack it throughout the day. If i actually do leave it i have a major build up of cum and if i wank for more than 5 mins, i experience blue balls and that shit fucking sucks.

Post: #25

(10-30-2012 04:51 PM)torontokid Wrote:  I have a fairly low sex drive and I'm not horny. Will this make me hornier?

Similar. Any tips for otherwise healthy, young guys whose game outpaces their horniness/ overall libido? Already aware of supplements like horny goat weed, etc. I don't have a good sense of healthy variation in sex drive between normal guys.