Post: #26

"You can leave if thats what you think"

Post: #27

I think a response like, "Only with the ones I'm really crazy about," or something similar is the best way to go, accompanied by a wink and a smile. The last thing you want to do is appear stumped or evasive. Take it head on. The bitch is with you because you're desirable, so there's no sense in pretending she's the first you've done this or that with. If she doesn't want to hear the truth, she'll stop with that particular shit test.

Post: #28

I've gotten this before too. I said "just you, sweet cheeks." with a tone that made her unsure if it was bullshit or not.

Post: #29

(10-17-2012 09:45 PM)Gmac Wrote:  "I'm a virgin"

(10-18-2012 08:19 PM)germanico Wrote:  "You can leave if thats what you think"

Both of these are great responses.

Personally, I'd have to go with whatever the vibe of the interaction was before she said that...

If she was being playful, then I'd go with a playful bullshit answer like GMAC's. But if she's being angry and or serious, I'd go with Germanico.

Post: #30

(10-18-2012 07:36 PM)Knowledge Seeker Wrote:  

(10-18-2012 05:13 PM)xsplat Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 09:45 PM)Gmac Wrote:  "I'm a virgin"

You've just invented disagree and amplify.

That line actually works quite well, especially if you give off the vibe that you attract multiple women.

It works well in the right situation.

"I bet you take all the girls here"
"I'm a virgin"

Doesn't quite sound right.

Post: #31

(10-19-2012 03:57 AM)MattC Wrote:  

(10-18-2012 07:36 PM)Knowledge Seeker Wrote:  

(10-18-2012 05:13 PM)xsplat Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 09:45 PM)Gmac Wrote:  "I'm a virgin"

You've just invented disagree and amplify.

That line actually works quite well, especially if you give off the vibe that you attract multiple women.

It works well in the right situation.

"I bet you take all the girls here"
"I'm a virgin"

Doesn't quite sound right.

It's all in the delivery. If you say it right, you're really saying "yep".

And they love that because they can't nail it down exactly WHY they love it.

Post: #32

(10-19-2012 04:01 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

(10-19-2012 03:57 AM)MattC Wrote:  

(10-18-2012 07:36 PM)Knowledge Seeker Wrote:  

(10-18-2012 05:13 PM)xsplat Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 09:45 PM)Gmac Wrote:  "I'm a virgin"

You've just invented disagree and amplify.

That line actually works quite well, especially if you give off the vibe that you attract multiple women.

It works well in the right situation.

"I bet you take all the girls here"
"I'm a virgin"

Doesn't quite sound right.

It's all in the delivery. If you say it right, you're really saying "yep".

And they love that because they can't nail it down exactly WHY they love it.

Haha, actually that's a good point.

Post: #33

"Why, is it working?"

Knowing myself, I would say something like that with a smirk.

Post: #34

When it comes to shit tests:

If in doubt, stare into space for a few seconds, and then say 'Maybe.'
The thing with shit tests is the purpose isn't to win, it is not to lose.

Post: #35

(10-17-2012 09:45 AM)Rosca Wrote:  My quick and simple line when girls say things like that.

"Sometimes" with a smile.

ha that's my comeback too. It works.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #36

flip the script on them and say, "it sounds like you've asked a lot of guys that question"

Post: #37

I do a lot of direct daygame in NYC. Occasionally the girls will joke/ask "Do you do this all the time?"

I've thought a lot about how to answer it. My first response is to say "Do what?" Like I have no idea what they're talking about. Then when they elaborate, I say something else. So one exchange went like this:

Her: Do you do this all the time?
Me: Do what.
Her: Go up to random people in the street like this.
Me: ...Are you gonna be this cynical on our date?

She actually backed down after this, at which point I told her, no, I don't do this all the time. She gave me the number but ended up flaking (after what I thought was a pretty good interaction).

Feel like I could have done a better response. I don't really like the "agree and amplify" idea here, I don't think agreeing and amplifying would make it particularly funny or play off well. Any other ideas?

Post: #38

(10-18-2012 07:36 PM)Knowledge Seeker Wrote:  

(10-18-2012 05:13 PM)xsplat Wrote:  

(10-17-2012 09:45 PM)Gmac Wrote:  "I'm a virgin"

You've just invented disagree and amplify.

That line actually works quite well, especially if you give off the vibe that you attract multiple women.

Last time I used that line some girl offered to instruct me and my girl how to fuck, later she was cuddling up on me on one side and my girl on the other. No threesome, but that shit works.

Post: #39

"I bet you say that to all the girls"

"And I bet you say that to all the guys"

Post: #40

(10-20-2012 02:38 PM)the virgin chronicles Wrote:  I do a lot of direct daygame in NYC. Occasionally the girls will joke/ask "Do you do this all the time?"


Me: ...Are you gonna be this cynical on our date?

She actually backed down after this, at which point I told her, no, I don't do this all the time. She gave me the number but ended up flaking (after what I thought was a pretty good interaction).

Feel like I could have done a better response.

First, if you're doing direct in NYC you've got much bigger balls than me! So good work.

But I think this is just too intimidating, and you were probably being obviously insincere-- without a counterbalancing warmth which she wants.
Let me ask you, are you in sales? There's a certain feeling I get when I deal with some sales guys, like they're not really there, which when they are shitty, they aren't, they're thinking about whatever they're going to buy with your money.

She didn't "back down," she withdrew, thinking "this is a cold, glib guy who's not making me feel good."

First off, the question "do you do this all the time" indicates two thing: 1) she wasn't really that into you, if she was "Oh great this cute guy is into me" she wouldn't be questioning you. 2) She still saw you as worthy of communicating with-- she exposed her thoughts and gave you a chance to respond.

Then you say "Do what?"

1) Playing dumb is a form of confrontation about the fact she's questioning what you're obviously doing. She's actually opening up a bit and telling you what she's thinking-- but you don't reciprocate-- you are being overly controlling. So she already is on the spot-- it's like there's an elephant in the room and you're making believe it's not there.

2) This forces her to confront you which most feminine women find unpleasant. "..talk to random people..etc."

3) Then you cold cock her with a "funny" but not really funny criticism which you definitely don't know her well enough for her to feel OK with.
So she's scared of what else you're going to say because you're so glib, she gives you the number but internally is thinking "This guy challenges every thing I say." and doesn't see how she's going to get an attention whore dose from you.

4) She'd rather dream about guys she sees on Fakebook than get fucked again by another glib guy who doesn't give a shit. So she does.

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In a broader sense, any time a woman openly questions my motives or approach, I've failed with her.

Once I asked a retail clerk who was talking and talking and talking to me, to the point where the customers behind me were getting irritated.

I asked for her number, and completely deadpan she asked "What for?"

Contrastingly, if they're into you, they just seem to go along with things, making it easy for you. Token resistance and LMR are exceptions; getting the social stuff going they seem to make easier if they really like you.

I think part of the justification for Janka's direct model is "Difficult women remain difficult"; so if you ask for something right away, ( number) you are getting the disagreeable ones out of the way faster.

Post: #41

(10-21-2012 10:40 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  quote

Thanks for the legit response dude. I sort of expected RVF members to harp on direct daygame cuz Roosh doesn't like it.

Not in sales, although I can see why you'd ask. I think there's a lot of similarities between sales and pickup. If i'm not really emotionally invested in what i'm saying, it just sorta comes with the territory of approaching tons of people and essentially making the same plays over and over and trying to build a conversation out of it.

In this case I actually came up with the line in advance (assuming that I would some day get this question). I was trying to be cocky, which I find works in direct daygame...sometimes. In this case it probably just came across as rude/offish, and I guess she wasn't into it anyway. Most of the girls that I dated through cold approach said it was cool that I came up to them (and didn't look much further into it than that).

It just sucks when the girl is into it, gives me her number, thinks about it for a day and then asks me the question over text.