(10-12-2012 04:50 PM)painter Wrote: All Ryan had to do was let Biden talk (and laugh, grimace, smile, chuckle, and chortle) and make an ass of himself. All he did last night was lock up the moron vote.
You're voting for him? Cool
The rare and elusive political troll is spotted again.
(10-12-2012 04:50 PM)painter Wrote: All Ryan had to do was let Biden talk (and laugh, grimace, smile, chuckle, and chortle) and make an ass of himself. All he did last night was lock up the moron vote.
You're voting for him? Cool
The rare and elusive political troll is spotted again.
Sorry, no.
The post I replied to implied that only morons would be receptive to Biden's debate performance.
Don't try to create drama.
And don't post on a political thread and then panic when someone you may not agree with replies to it.
(10-12-2012 04:50 PM)painter Wrote: All Ryan had to do was let Biden talk (and laugh, grimace, smile, chuckle, and chortle) and make an ass of himself. All he did last night was lock up the moron vote.
You're voting for him? Cool
The rare and elusive political troll is spotted again.
Sorry, no.
The post I replied to implied that only morons would be receptive to Biden's debate performance.
Don't try to create drama.
And don't post on a political thread and then panic when someone you may not agree with replies to it.
Nah man, you're like a novelty, only appearing on political posts with one liners. Sort of like that black dudes kill it in Sweden guy but not nearly as entertaining and funny.
(This post was last modified: 10-12-2012 07:28 PM by worldwidetraveler.)
(10-12-2012 04:50 PM)painter Wrote: All Ryan had to do was let Biden talk (and laugh, grimace, smile, chuckle, and chortle) and make an ass of himself. All he did last night was lock up the moron vote.
You're voting for him? Cool
The rare and elusive political troll is spotted again.
Sorry, no.
The post I replied to implied that only morons would be receptive to Biden's debate performance.
Don't try to create drama.
And don't post on a political thread and then panic when someone you may not agree with replies to it.
Nah man, you're like a novelty, only appearing on political posts with one liners. Sort of like that black dudes kill it in Sweden guy but not nearly as entertaining and funny.
You mean you'd prefer that I post a verbose data dump of disinfo., talking points, photoshopped pics, and ranting (that shares your viewpoint)?
You don't agree with my pov so you're resorting to the classic troll move and trying to stir up drama. If you can't handle various viewpoints on the political thread, stay off it.
And if you truly think someone is a troll, next time discreetly PM a moderator, not try to bait them into getting banned.
You know what would have been cooler, if Biden and Ryan threw down a bare knuckle fight till one of them got K.O. or tapped out. I think Biden would kick his ass.
Heh. Just another reminder about why it's a total waste of time debating politics with most people: it spurs anger and both sides think they're more right than they were before they started debating.
(10-12-2012 08:58 PM)The_CEO Wrote: You mean you'd prefer that I post a verbose data dump of disinfo., talking points, photoshopped pics, and ranting (that shares your viewpoint)?
You don't agree with my pov so you're resorting to the classic troll move and trying to stir up drama. If you can't handle various viewpoints on the political thread, stay off it.
And if you truly think someone is a troll, next time discreetly PM a moderator, not try to bait them into getting banned.
What exactly is my viewpoint? I really have no idea what your pov is since you post mainly one line attacks against people you don't agree with.
(This post was last modified: 10-12-2012 09:18 PM by worldwidetraveler.)
(10-12-2012 11:55 PM)megatron Wrote: Why are you guys not actually discussing any issues anymore and just talking about who's cooler?
This is a forum about game, after all. If I was going to have anyone on either ticket as a wingman, it would be Biden, hands down. Ryan is a stuffy little prick and Romney is as much fun as a non-stop bus trip to Australia. If you went out with Biden as your wing, even if you struck out, you know you'd have a riot with the dude.
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(10-12-2012 05:17 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote: Average Democrat voter:
At least they aren't basing their opposition on the bigoted notion that Romney is somehow "not American" and "not like us". She's an idiot, just of a different brand. Like I said in the other thread: see two devils, pick the one you dislike the least.
The reason I get more worked up over the conservative examples stems from the bigotry ("he's a muslim", "he's not like us", "he wasn't born here", etc, etc) used so often to attack Obama. Yes, I have a sore spot for that kind of shit.
Why? Take a guess.
Quote:I love this and can post 1000x. Athlone won't even get NEAR the latter video. WHY NOT? FUCKKKKKK,.
Really?
I'm right here, bro.
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(10-12-2012 11:55 PM)megatron Wrote: Why are you guys not actually discussing any issues anymore and just talking about who's cooler?
This is a forum about game, after all. If I was going to have anyone on either ticket as a wingman, it would be Biden, hands down. Ryan is a stuffy little prick and Romney is as much fun as a non-stop bus trip to Australia. If you went out with Biden as your wing, even if you struck out, you know you'd have a riot with the dude.
actually, this is the Everything Else subsection.
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(10-13-2012 12:37 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote: At least they aren't basing their opposition on the bigoted notion that Romney is somehow "not American" and "not like us". She's an idiot, just of a different brand. Like I said in the other thread: see two devils, pick the one you dislike the least.
The reason I get more worked up over the conservative examples stems from the bigotry ("he's a muslim", "he's not like us", "he wasn't born here", etc, etc) used so often to attack Obama. Yes, I have a sore spot for that kind of shit.
Actually, a case could be made that he is anti-American and it has nothing to do with where he was or was not born, but rather his world-view.
(10-13-2012 12:37 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote: At least they aren't basing their opposition on the bigoted notion that Romney is somehow "not American" and "not like us". She's an idiot, just of a different brand. Like I said in the other thread: see two devils, pick the one you dislike the least.
The reason I get more worked up over the conservative examples stems from the bigotry ("he's a muslim", "he's not like us", "he wasn't born here", etc, etc) used so often to attack Obama. Yes, I have a sore spot for that kind of shit.
Actually, a case could be made that he is anti-American and it has nothing to do with where he was or was not born, but rather his world-view.
Quote:Anti-colonialism, as D’Souza defines it, is underwritten by a conviction that “colonialism is a system of piracy in which the wealth of the colonized countries is systematically stolen by the colonizers”
Calling anti-colonialism un-American is a bit rich considering some of the reasons America became independent of Britain.
Quote:The argument founders on the fallacy of assuming that the adjective “American” has a fixed meaning with which everyone, or everyone who is right-thinking and patriotic, agrees. But the meaning of America is continually contested in essays, books, backyard conversations, talk shows and, most of all, in elections. It is often said, and it is true, that the opposing parties in an election have “different visions for America.” There are many ways of describing the alternative visions offered to us in a year like this; but describing one of them as un-American and its proponent as a foreign intruder is not to further discussion but to foreclose it and to replace the contest of ideas with the rhetoric of demonization. (Democrats have been as guilty of this as anyone.) Obama may have a vision for America that you don’t like, but it is a vision for America put forward by an American. If you don’t like it, vote against him, not in the name of Americanism but in the name of the ideas and outcomes you, also an American, prefer.
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Quote:Anti-colonialism, as D’Souza defines it, is underwritten by a conviction that “colonialism is a system of piracy in which the wealth of the colonized countries is systematically stolen by the colonizers”
Calling anti-colonialism un-American is a bit rich considering some of the reasons America became independent of Britain.
Quote:The argument founders on the fallacy of assuming that the adjective “American” has a fixed meaning with which everyone, or everyone who is right-thinking and patriotic, agrees. But the meaning of America is continually contested in essays, books, backyard conversations, talk shows and, most of all, in elections. It is often said, and it is true, that the opposing parties in an election have “different visions for America.” There are many ways of describing the alternative visions offered to us in a year like this; but describing one of them as un-American and its proponent as a foreign intruder is not to further discussion but to foreclose it and to replace the contest of ideas with the rhetoric of demonization. (Democrats have been as guilty of this as anyone.) Obama may have a vision for America that you don’t like, but it is a vision for America put forward by an American. If you don’t like it, vote against him, not in the name of Americanism but in the name of the ideas and outcomes you, also an American, prefer.
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In the sense that he is describing, "anti-colonialism" could be replaced with "anti-capitalism" (the modern day form of colonialism, according to that crowd), since America is based on capitalism, I don't think it too off to make that connection.
And if you don't buy that then go with "anti-originalism," where Obama's policies are against the original intent of the U.S. government (limited and low taxation), though to be fair most politicians, judges, etc are anti-originalist.
And if you still don't buy either of those, go back to Halcon's razor: Don't attribute to malice, what can be explained by stupidity. Then Obama is an empty suit and needs to be replaced regardless.
(10-13-2012 12:37 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote: At least they aren't basing their opposition on the bigoted notion that Romney is somehow "not American" and "not like us". She's an idiot, just of a different brand. Like I said in the other thread: see two devils, pick the one you dislike the least.
The reason I get more worked up over the conservative examples stems from the bigotry ("he's a muslim", "he's not like us", "he wasn't born here", etc, etc) used so often to attack Obama. Yes, I have a sore spot for that kind of shit.
Actually, a case could be made that he is anti-American and it has nothing to do with where he was or was not born, but rather his world-view.
The right-wing visceral hatred of Obama is outrageous. If anybody should be angry at him, it's the left-wing. Obama by global standards would be considered center-right. He governs as a moderate, and that his temperamental disposition as well. What are they so fucking angry about? As far as I see it, he's the only one making any concessions. He's given the right everything they want. They wanted to extend the Bush tax cuts, he gave it to them. They wanted to finish the fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, he gave it to them. They wanted to drill for domestic oil, and domestic oil production has increased under Obama. They wanted to keep the patriot act, he has kept it, they wanted to keep Guantanamo, he has kept it. They want a crackdown on illegal immigration, Obama has deported record numbers of illegals to the chagrin of the Hispanic community.
Other than abortion and gay marriage, what the the fuck is so left-wing about Obama?? The left has more reason to be angry at him than the right. Let's just be honest here, a lot of this shit has to do with the fact that he's black. It's undeniable.
(This post was last modified: 10-13-2012 03:06 AM by speakeasy.)
(10-13-2012 03:05 AM)speakeasy Wrote: The right-wing visceral hatred of Obama is outrageous. If anybody should be angry at him, it's the left-wing. Obama by global standards would be considered center-right. He governs as a moderate, and that his temperamental disposition as well. What are they so fucking angry about? As far as I see it, he's the only one making any concessions. He's given the right everything they want. They wanted to extend the Bush tax cuts, he gave it to them. They wanted to finish the fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, he gave it to them. They wanted to drill for domestic oil, and domestic oil production has increased under Obama. They wanted to keep the patriot act, he has kept it, they wanted to keep Guantanamo, he has kept it. They want a crackdown on illegal immigration, Obama has deported record numbers of illegals to the chagrin of the Hispanic community.
Other than abortion and gay marriage, what the the fuck is so left-wing about Obama?? The left has more reason to be angry at him than the right. Let's just be honest here, a lot of this shit has to do with the fact that he's black. It's undeniable.
Racism has nothing to do with this. It's just your hamster going into overdrive. Obama is pretty progressive. Just read Dreams from My Father. He's not worse than many other progessives, but he's pretty bad.
It's also not just a negative vote on Obama. It's becoming a positive vote on Romney. A man who with executive experience (unlike Obama), wealth-creator (unlike Obama) and whose life is more than just a fascination with ideas but also creating results.
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