Post: #1

Skip to the last paragraph for the short version..

It's been aaaaages since I read Bang. I don't really read this forum anymore either, I was all over it when I joined. But I poke in the blog every now and again and catch up because Roosh's prose is very unique.. even if the content doesn't rock my world. Be that as it may I've got an hour to kill and I'm gonna share the only thing I KNOW about getting girls.. still relatively new for me.

I'm pretty sure Roosh mentioned this and said it's the most crucial part of game in Bang.. I don't remember tho.

If you're curious as to what stage of banging chicks I'm in: One night bangs are still hard. Numbers and dates are effortless and having a blast in bars is now cake. I never waste time. I barely even drink. I walk in, choose 1-3 girls and open. I've never been denied a number, they almost always answer/call back and are down to make dates. My overall goal now is to have a good night, meet new people, speak Spanish.. getting laid is a bonus. I have anywhere between two and five "amigovias" combine the word amiga and novia.

The other day I was in a bar and this guy said to me, "Dude wtf you can't hit on four girls at once, pick one and make some room." All of those four girls, would've had sex with me that night, I settled for one. All of them, they told each other and me that they were creeped out by that guy and his friend. No game.

Do I attribute this to good looks/game/foreigner and local language fluency status? Yes, a bit.

The reason for this is that I vibe excellently. You can't fake a vibe. It's cultivated, it's honest, it's a huge part of who you are.

Most guys, many of you, aren't getting laid regularly and come into a bar and just have a toxic aura that reeks of need for sex. You MUST get laid, the hottest thing with a hole that will have you. Point and go. Girls can smell this, see it in your eyes and read your mind.

Do I think there is some algorithm to get a positive, contagious positive vibe that results in good times, new friends and mad girls? No. Here's my list that attributes to my ever-increasing vibe.

-Confidence - Can't be faked. Man up, pussy. Be happy with who you are and what you're doing. KNOW who you are and enjoy it.

-The feeling of abundance. You must realize there is no one girl. No girl broke the 1-10 scale, no girl is Aphrodite. Fly girls can tell how much value you've placed on them and they will exploit you and forget about your needy ass post-haste. The mad hot socially adjusted beauty is a strange creature.

-Organic shit to say in addition to some routine or whatever you've invented or read. If you can't tell a story, don't.

-Get laid. Kinda sucks right? This is necessary, if you aren't getting laid you are going to need sex more and more and that isn't doing anything for you're vibe. Find a girlfriend you don't really want and bang away your need for sex if needs be. Funny story is that this is most people's end-goal.

-Her loss. If you get rejected and don't KNOW that it's her loss. Your vibe is suffering. If it's not her loss, you have confidence, looks or situational issues and you do not vibe well.

-Go Dutch. Split everything or take turns, unless she literally doesn't have the cash. If it's a monetary expense for you, change you dates to movies and cooking at home. You can be a gentlemen otherwise. (This one may be just me.)

What do I like? What are my goals? How am I going to exploit my capacity to bang chicks?

I like to have a few girlfriends honestly. 2-5. I like unprotected sex, I like smoking hot girls who are cool. Ugly chicks are rarely cool. They have confidence issues and too many needs for me to support. I always go for the hottest girl in the Bar, Street, wherever I am. So, if I find one.. I let her hang out for a while. Even if the girl is a 6-7 but fucks like an animal and has good taste or is fun to be around. She gets to be in my circle. Eventually she'll realize I'm not in love, never will be and will move on or enjoy what she gets (or what we make together may sound better).

..

Routines are good, lines are fun, game, manipulation, plans, clothes, shoes, cars, the place you go to or any number of things may help you get laid. They all pale in comparison in a BIG way to a positive vibe that says, "Hey I'm a good guy, having a good time and want you(all) to join me." If it's not true, if your intentions are not pure, if you don't know who your are or what you want.. just give up now because you have a lot of work to do besides finding someone to fuck.

Post: #2

I agree 100%. (I only read the last paragraph).

Post: #3

Thought experiment.

Two men with no game read that. Both get inspired but only one has success. What makes the successful man different??

Post: #4

(02-17-2010 05:27 PM)loosewin Wrote:  Thought experiment.

Two men with no game read that. Both get inspired but only one has success. What makes the successful man different??

That can be asked about many things. Two men go to a "rich dad, poor dad" seminar, both are inspired but only one of them ends up successful. Why? Could be a hundred reasons. I think success in anything calls for a number of traits, inherent temperaments, habits, social skills, work ethic, learned behavior, and even just dumb luck all working in unison to create an outcome.

Post: #5

The guys that not only fully understand this stuff but can pull it off are the best PUAs on the planet based on my experience in the community.

Vibe is all I really care about and focus on in an interaction. That and just enjoying myself of course but the two go hand in hand.

If your inner game is solid, you know how to escalate and you understand getting your logisitics down, everything else takes care of itself.

Post: #6

"Vibe" is such an esoteric thing that I don't there's any way of it being taught. You can teach someone how to use a paintbrush, how to stretch a canvas, and how to mix paints, but you can't teach someone how to be creative.

Post: #7

Like Q-tip said.

Check the vibe y'all!

Post: #8

In Bang it says something like, "Inner game is the first thing you will work on and the last thing you will master."

Seems like once you got inner game locked down, the vibing is easy (if it comes naturally to you already).

Post: #9

This is it!
I don't recall if in a previous thread I said i have never ever read a book on PUA and before stumbling upon Roosh V's blog, I never heard of the word?
Truth is I like to share and learn some moves by the people here, but there is no way I am going to think of myself a schooled PUA.

It is a cliché, but the only thing you need to succeed in society, no matter your money, is giving the vibe or appearance that you are comfortable with yourself and are a genuine guy.

A lot of this PUA slang and reading seems to me trains some chumps who might eventually learn and enjoy the get laid life, but at the beginning, they will transmit this forced, studied vibe about themselves.

Since I am a musician, who performs in the classical world, I know all too well that theory and technique are fundamentally needed, but the end musical moment is only given by your genuine reading of a score, which transmit some believed truth by yourself and the audience can identify with. The theory is left behind, always.

Post: #10

(02-17-2010 06:15 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  "Vibe" is such an esoteric thing that I don't there's any way of it being taught. You can teach someone how to use a paintbrush, how to stretch a canvas, and how to mix paints, but you can't teach someone how to be creative.

This is what I was trying to get at. The original post in the thread was great but how do I turn that into action? But yeah, I agree vibe is hard to teach if at all. This is the trouble that I think a lot of guys (including me) run into when learning about the game. A lot of stuff is great to read but where is the action part? Where is the line between just reading PUA stuff and actual progress? I just that is just a very personal question that each person has to answer for themselves. Not to devalue the good pua material out there..

Post: #11

"The original post in the thread was great but how do I turn that into action?"

Practice. And life experience. Natural ability. There are no shortcuts. Except maybe the sh*t I write about.

"Where is the line between just reading PUA stuff and actual progress?"

This is the stuff I write about. I always write from a perspective of a cat that already has solid Game, but wants more out of life.

The pick up artist stuff is fine if you have no Game. If you already have Game and you read that stuff, it just tells you about what you already do but breaks it down. But that stuff only gets you so far.

There are way more artistic moves you can make in life.

Post: #12

If you're lucky you'll get to a point where you'll have an epiphany and realize that the only thing keeping you from getting what you want is yourself.

and then you can follow the standard worthless advice of "just be yourself"

but at that stage it makes sense, b/c of all the time you've put in.. so "yourself" is vastly different than the one that started out.

Post: #13

(02-17-2010 10:06 PM)toddh Wrote:  If you're lucky you'll get to a point where you'll have an epiphany and realize that the only thing keeping you from getting what you want is yourself.

and then you can follow the standard worthless advice of "just be yourself"

but at that stage it makes sense, b/c of all the time you've put in.. so "yourself" is vastly different than the one that started out.

Great fucking post because I think that is exactly where I'm at.

Post: #14

thats why the whole concept of "game" seems newbi to me, its not a game, its more a way of life and constitutes a plethora of skills, looks and attitude... problem is it seems that the ones that know the least sometimes are the ones faking the hardest and the internet is also a heaven for posers trying to show off..
Thats said I agree with the post and think its like Ive said before all that PUA stuff is robot programs its all about having fun and be interesting to be around thats is..

How you become that, you will know when you get there, but again by doing stuff you enjoy and being happy, you will transmit that...

Post: #15

(02-17-2010 03:27 PM)deadgabacho Wrote:  Skip to the last paragraph for the short version..

It's been aaaaages since I read Bang. I don't really read this forum anymore either, I was all over it when I joined. But I poke in the blog every now and again and catch up because Roosh's prose is very unique.. even if the content doesn't rock my world. Be that as it may I've got an hour to kill and I'm gonna share the only thing I KNOW about getting girls.. still relatively new for me.

I'm pretty sure Roosh mentioned this and said it's the most crucial part of game in Bang.. I don't remember tho.

If you're curious as to what stage of banging chicks I'm in: One night bangs are still hard. Numbers and dates are effortless and having a blast in bars is now cake. I never waste time. I barely even drink. I walk in, choose 1-3 girls and open. I've never been denied a number, they almost always answer/call back and are down to make dates. My overall goal now is to have a good night, meet new people, speak Spanish.. getting laid is a bonus. I have anywhere between two and five "amigovias" combine the word amiga and novia.

The other day I was in a bar and this guy said to me, "Dude wtf you can't hit on four girls at once, pick one and make some room." All of those four girls, would've had sex with me that night, I settled for one. All of them, they told each other and me that they were creeped out by that guy and his friend. No game.

Do I attribute this to good looks/game/foreigner and local language fluency status? Yes, a bit.

The reason for this is that I vibe excellently. You can't fake a vibe. It's cultivated, it's honest, it's a huge part of who you are.

Most guys, many of you, aren't getting laid regularly and come into a bar and just have a toxic aura that reeks of need for sex. You MUST get laid, the hottest thing with a hole that will have you. Point and go. Girls can smell this, see it in your eyes and read your mind.

Do I think there is some algorithm to get a positive, contagious positive vibe that results in good times, new friends and mad girls? No. Here's my list that attributes to my ever-increasing vibe.

-Confidence - Can't be faked. Man up, pussy. Be happy with who you are and what you're doing. KNOW who you are and enjoy it.

-The feeling of abundance. You must realize there is no one girl. No girl broke the 1-10 scale, no girl is Aphrodite. Fly girls can tell how much value you've placed on them and they will exploit you and forget about your needy ass post-haste. The mad hot socially adjusted beauty is a strange creature.

-Organic shit to say in addition to some routine or whatever you've invented or read. If you can't tell a story, don't.

-Get laid. Kinda sucks right? This is necessary, if you aren't getting laid you are going to need sex more and more and that isn't doing anything for you're vibe. Find a girlfriend you don't really want and bang away your need for sex if needs be. Funny story is that this is most people's end-goal.

-Her loss. If you get rejected and don't KNOW that it's her loss. Your vibe is suffering. If it's not her loss, you have confidence, looks or situational issues and you do not vibe well.

-Go Dutch. Split everything or take turns, unless she literally doesn't have the cash. If it's a monetary expense for you, change you dates to movies and cooking at home. You can be a gentlemen otherwise. (This one may be just me.)

What do I like? What are my goals? How am I going to exploit my capacity to bang chicks?

I like to have a few girlfriends honestly. 2-5. I like unprotected sex, I like smoking hot girls who are cool. Ugly chicks are rarely cool. They have confidence issues and too many needs for me to support. I always go for the hottest girl in the Bar, Street, wherever I am. So, if I find one.. I let her hang out for a while. Even if the girl is a 6-7 but fucks like an animal and has good taste or is fun to be around. She gets to be in my circle. Eventually she'll realize I'm not in love, never will be and will move on or enjoy what she gets (or what we make together may sound better).

..

Routines are good, lines are fun, game, manipulation, plans, clothes, shoes, cars, the place you go to or any number of things may help you get laid. They all pale in comparison in a BIG way to a positive vibe that says, "Hey I'm a good guy, having a good time and want you(all) to join me." If it's not true, if your intentions are not pure, if you don't know who your are or what you want.. just give up now because you have a lot of work to do besides finding someone to fuck.

This is how guys talk when they are banging hotties in some exotic country. Life seems so easy.

But when things change and he is not getting laid so easy, he'll say...."I need to get my game back together".

That being said, I do agree with what he is saying. It just takes a few years of practice to get to that point.

Post: #16

ive lived in lots of foreign countries.. Italy, Canada, Mexico, Spain and now Argentina... its not any easier..

One bud of mine got here the same DAY and banged 3 chicks.. two were monsters.. i know 4 or 5 others who havent had a conversation with an argentine longer than 20 sec

Post: #17

I'll agree.

Last night my vibe was just excellent. I didn't need game at all, I was the life of the party. I was 24 and went back to party with some college friends and God Damn I was feeling it. I was having such a great time and everyone around me was having a better time, I had to tone shit down to avoid stealing this chick from a guy who needed her way more than me.

First party I go to I'm talking with these two girls, and I'll be honest, they were both like 7s, but without doing anything they were interested as fuck, I just said very few things and a few minutes later we were in the bathroom just going at it and I was just like. Fuck yeah.

Party after party the night continued like that, guys were giving me drinks, girls were all about it, and I was feeling like a boss.

But yeah, I think my intentions and state of mind were sort of everything. I was some sort of conduit for fun, and people can't resist that.

The night ended up with me and two girls in a pullout couch.

Hell. Yeah.

Post: #18

great post

Post: #19

You joined in November.

How much have you improved since November? And how much did you practice?

Post: #20

I agree with everything you said, except this.....

(02-17-2010 03:27 PM)deadgabacho Wrote:  I've never been denied a number

That's just impossible, unless you only go for a number close when absolutely sure you're going to get a number, in which case, you're probably not asking for enough numbers.

Anyway, good post, everything else you said was pretty much right on the money.

Post: #21

I do only go for a number when I'm absolutely sure that I'm going to get it. I think you would need to know how often I get laid and the quality of the girls before you go accusing me of not asking for enough

Post: #22

If by 'vibe' you mean essentially letting you know that you'd fuck her without hesitation, with the only variance being in the heavy-handedness of the delivery (charming to direct as hell), then I'd agree. In my opinion, everything else is a waste of time, unless its to fill space in-between the time you are delivering the above message.

The only downfall to this approach is what comes when you are getting lots of sex. Namely, this: /thread-1764.html