Post: #1

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/ha...756960.stm

"As Belle de Jour, Dr Brooke Magnanti achieved global notoriety for years, writing a blog about her sexual encounters as a high-class escort girl working in London.

Now, after revealing herself to be an expert research scientist and no longer engaged in prostitution she is calling for prostitution to be decriminalised. She tells HARDtalk's Katya Adler she found the escort work empowering and would do it again."

Post: #2

What is going on with her face? She's only 36 but her skin absolutely awful. All that dick must've taken its toll.

Post: #3

Truth be told, prostitution, contrary to what feminists claim, does seem rather empowering. The woman gains an exorbitant sum of money for very little work. The customer has to obey her rules (such as no kissing, no anal, blah blah blah), usually pays in advance, meets on her terms and etc etc.

I don't know if I'd call it science, but I've found that some prostitutes write some fine blogs, and are just as hostile to modern feminism and man-hating politics (like "the Swedish model") as we are. I am a fan of this one: http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/

p.s. however, Brooke Magnanti is the living proof that cum is not a good natural moisturizer

Post: #4

I thought that was quite a good interview, even though I'm not pro-prostitution to be honest.

I dunno about the skin on her face. It's like a cross between loose skin and acne scarring.

Post: #5

High end prostitution is empowering. Being a low end street prostitute or the Eastern European prostitute in America is probably not empowering.

Post: #6

Her blog and book also got turned into a series on Showtime, "Secret Life of a Call Girl." Showtime also has "Gigolos," featuring male escorts. HBO has a show featuring the Moonlite Bunny Ranch in Nevada, run by Dennis Hof. I think the anti-prostitution crowd fears the truth about the industry being highlighted, with all of the rhetoric being stripped away. As jammer stated, streetwalkers aren't empowered, in that they probably have pimps (who may abuse them), can't keep their money, are possibly trafficked, on drugs, etc. But for the high-end "escorts" the same can't be said. They DO have a large amount of control, clients are screened, and they pay top dollar. The premise that men are in control under all circumstances is ridiculous. Of course, most women feel sex is all about a man's pleasure in that as long as he busts a nut, he got his whether a woman got pleased or not. On "Gigolos" I've seen some of the chicks these guys have to service, and they don't really have a choice. It's the job. They've had to break off fatties (one chick was certified obese), a furry, a fattie that was into S&M, and he had to wear some kind of cock cage that was locked for a couple of days. Another had to fuck a chick that had a house full of weird pets (snakes, a tarantula, and a big ass lizard that was crawling around the sofa he was fucking her on, and she made him handle all of them). They've had to do chicks while their husbands watch. They have to take all kinds of jobs with chicks they would never be attracted to, but have to get it up for them. The "mainstreaming" of the industry through shows like this make it difficult for feminists and governments to condemn all prostitution. It just ends up being a moral argument that quickly loses steam.

Amsterdam has been trying to eliminate the girls in the windows. They claim it's because of the organized crime elements in the industry, but it's more about the PR. They just don't want to be known for prostitution and weed alone anymore.

Post: #7

(10-04-2012 10:52 AM)Kitsune Wrote:  I thought that was quite a good interview, even though I'm not pro-prostitution to be honest.

I dunno about the skin on her face. It's like a cross between loose skin and acne scarring.

I always thought that the manosphere would be for legalizing prostitution. What are some arguments against it?

Post: #8

Reminds me of this, where the girl says working in food service is worse than working as a prostitute:

http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSDiscussion/co...rk/c6gwcmd

Post: #9

I've known more sex workers than most of the guys on this forum. The ex-hooker going on TV and talking about being empowered is the rationalization hamster at work. It's not empowering, it's a means to an end. Most of the hookers I've known have left the business the minute they achieved whatever goal they set out to achieve.

Post: #10

(10-04-2012 04:58 AM)P Dog Wrote:  What is going on with her face? She's only 36 but her skin absolutely awful. All that dick must've taken its toll.

Without wanting to insult my fellow Brits, it's not uncommon to see ragged looking Brit lizards like that.
Diet is bad, weather is bad, this is all conducive to wretched looking features.

Post: #11

(10-04-2012 06:09 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  I've known more sex workers than most of the guys on this forum. The ex-hooker going on TV and talking about being empowered is the rationalization hamster at work. It's not empowering, it's a means to an end. Most of the hookers I've known have left the business the minute they achieved whatever goal they set out to achieve.

It's a given that it's something you can only do at your prime, when you're looking your best. There aren't many old hoes out there (though some are definitely raggedy...HA HA!). So yeah...most go in to make money for a particular reason, and get out, but it's also because they HAVE to. I don't think that makes it less empowering in that you're making a choice, and have control over whether you do it or not. Strippers are a different story. They're the ones that stay in it too long, get addicted to the money, and next thing they know, they're looking beat up and have nothing to move on to. The girls that actually stripped to pay for school are in the minority...

Post: #12

(10-04-2012 06:32 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 04:58 AM)P Dog Wrote:  What is going on with her face? She's only 36 but her skin absolutely awful. All that dick must've taken its toll.

Without wanting to insult my fellow Brits, it's not uncommon to see ragged looking Brit lizards like that.
Diet is bad, weather is bad, this is all conducive to wretched looking features.

So many of you on the forum have commented on the looks and teeth of native Brits. I've been to London a couple of times, but you don't really get an idea of what natives look like there. I just read the Playboy interview in the October 2012 issue. The interview subject is Lee Child, the author of the best-selling Jack Reacher novels, and a Brit (Birmingham). He's spent many years in America, and his characters are based here. This is what he said about it:

"Being an immigrant, I'm intensely patriotic about America. First of all, I like the diversity of the people. This is a mongrel race, and you find tremendous vitality in that. I like the vivid features people have. Even if somebody's not beautiful, they tend to be vivid - dark skin, or big, dramatic eyes. Americans are much more vital than the inbred, pasty-faced people of Britain..."

Post: #13

(10-04-2012 04:58 AM)P Dog Wrote:  What is going on with her face? She's only 36 but her skin absolutely awful. All that dick must've taken its toll.

syphilis

Post: #14

(10-04-2012 06:59 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 06:32 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 04:58 AM)P Dog Wrote:  What is going on with her face? She's only 36 but her skin absolutely awful. All that dick must've taken its toll.

Without wanting to insult my fellow Brits, it's not uncommon to see ragged looking Brit lizards like that.
Diet is bad, weather is bad, this is all conducive to wretched looking features.

So many of you on the forum have commented on the looks and teeth of native Brits. I've been to London a couple of times, but you don't really get an idea of what natives look like there. I just read the Playboy interview in the October 2012 issue. The interview subject is Lee Child, the author of the best-selling Jack Reacher novels, and a Brit (Birmingham). He's spent many years in America, and his characters are based here. This is what he said about it:

"Being an immigrant, I'm intensely patriotic about America. First of all, I like the diversity of the people. This is a mongrel race, and you find tremendous vitality in that. I like the vivid features people have. Even if somebody's not beautiful, they tend to be vivid - dark skin, or big, dramatic eyes. Americans are much more vital than the inbred, pasty-faced people of Britain..."

She is an American. Sorry.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_de_Jour_(writer)

Post: #15

Her face looks like there's something wrong just under the skin. Not sure what's up.

Yeah I'm 100% in favor of legalizing and regulating prostitution to a huge degree, if only to create another market where men can get sex. Once regular women are aware that men can buy sex with no issues their ability to have power over men and pressure them through withholding sex is going to be gone. Once women have less power and know it they'll have to act like women. Sexual inflation in a market will make it cheaper all around.

Post: #16

Yes, that draws an interesting comparison. During the Great Depression of the 1930s alcohol was prohibited and it wasn't until the end of the depression until it was legalised. Could legalised prostitution have a similar economic effect, it could certainly bring many billions of dollars of revenue for governments. It is really a mater of time, the demand is there. New Zealand appears to be a good example of a country where it is legalised and running relatively smoothly.

Post: #17

(11-09-2012 10:37 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 04:58 AM)P Dog Wrote:  What is going on with her face? She's only 36 but her skin absolutely awful. All that dick must've taken its toll.

syphilis

and drug abuse


Syphilis and drug abuse... empowering.

Post: #18

Hell just for the peacekeeping/humanitarian efforts of freeing omegas and lesser betas from a sexless existence, I don't see how you guys would ever be against prostitution if there's enough women giving it out for free already. Not trying to draw insane comparisons here but I would think that a lot of crime wouldn't happen in prostitution were suddenly made legal.

Post: #19

I think prostitution should be legal, but I don't think it's empowering. This woman has scars all over her face from a lifetime of bad decisions.


In case people haven't figured it out yet, syphisis leaves marks all over your body (google image search if you want to see some really nasty shit). These marks can only be covered up with makeup, like the whore in the above video does, and even if you are cured it's going to leave serious scarring.

Post: #20

It's sad that this has happened to her considering the condition is easily treated. Lack of self-care or lack of care by someone who should have been watching out for her I wonder? Might have contributed to the career choice of an otherwise intelligent woman...

Post: #21

(11-10-2012 10:30 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  It's sad that this has happened to her considering the condition is easily treated. Lack of self-care or lack of care by someone who should have been watching out for her I wonder? Might have contributed to the career choice of an otherwise intelligent woman...

It's not as if whores are well known for making good personal decisions...

Post: #22

It is really just a mater of time before we see a legalised adult industry in Australia, sure some aspects are already legal, for it to become legalised like the Netherlands and NZ, there is still along way to go. The adult industry in my view has the potential to do what the end of the end of prohibition did for alcohol. If they can clean up the criminal element, ie people trafficing, then it is very likely to become a major boom industry in the coming years. Feminist agendas will eventually force a backlash, the Japanese Herbivore trend is an example, it only a mater of time.

Post: #23

(11-10-2012 02:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-10-2012 10:30 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  It's sad that this has happened to her considering the condition is easily treated. Lack of self-care or lack of care by someone who should have been watching out for her I wonder? Might have contributed to the career choice of an otherwise intelligent woman...

It's not as if whores are well known for making good personal decisions...

I'm talking about her career choice of becoming a prostitute in the first place.

Post: #24

(10-04-2012 12:52 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  Amsterdam has been trying to eliminate the girls in the windows. They claim it's because of the organized crime elements in the industry, but it's more about the PR. They just don't want to be known for prostitution and weed alone anymore.

Very funny. Good luck to them. Without weed and prostitution their economy will take such a hit it'll cause a local depression. It would be like Las Vegas banning gambling.

I've always thought that purely from the womens point of view NOT getting paid for it is more shameful than getting paid. At least in cases where the woman is sleeping with many men. A slut is essentially a prostitute who doesn't get paid.

Rule #1 in life: Always make sure you're getting paid your due, whatever line you're in.

Post: #25

Empowering is a catch-all term for the rationalization hamster spinning furiously.

A girl once told me her clit piercing was "empowering" after she blew me in the back seat of a Hyundai Santa Fe. After I just chatted with her on JDate. Whatever.

You can never underestimate the amount of trauma someone has gone through, or their seemingly insane attempts to recreate it. Don't discount it here.