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RE: Alternative to Squat?
The past year or so squatting has started giving me bone spurs on my shoulder blades. After rocking back squats consistently for over a decade I've been replacing them with front squats. It solves my problem, but might make a lower back problem even worse.
10-01-2012 06:45 PM
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RE: Alternative to Squat?
(10-01-2012 06:45 PM)Strictly Professional Wrote:  The past year or so squatting has started giving me bone spurs on my shoulder blades. After rocking back squats consistently for over a decade I've been replacing them with front squats. It solves my problem, but might make a lower back problem even worse.

Have you tried squatting with the bar lower on your back? Many powerlifters squat with the bar lower than you would think.
10-01-2012 06:48 PM
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RE: Alternative to Squat?
(10-01-2012 10:41 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  
(09-29-2012 08:55 PM)ExpatChronicles Wrote:  
(09-29-2012 02:39 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  Do some back bridges. Not to pimp out Convict Conditioning or anything, but I haven't had any joint problems since I started last January and I used to have all kinds of back and knee pain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lhZpOKk3oo

Just don't think that you can replace the deadlift with the backbridge. I treat it as a sort of "active stretching" exercise and it seems to work well for me.

Ditto for back bridges. Also snatches and cleans will strengthen and train lower back in a way it just won't get hurt.

Equilibrim in abs / core is important. But ab contractional exercises aren't what stabilize the weight when going into the hole. Prone bridges (also mentioned here) and L-Sits train the stabilizing aspect of "core strength." That's what crumples dudes in American football (or prevents from getting crumpled).

Prone bridges AKA "bos' and toes'" - Start at 30 seconds, then increase time, then remove arm, leg, etc. until you're at the bad ass full planche.


I'm already up to walking bridges in convict conditioning, which is level 9, I believe. What's funny is that I have more strength and flexibility than most people who do yoga. I'm probably three to four months away from stand-to-stand bridges, if you're familiar with that term.

Regular bridges strengthened my back in ways that deadlifts and pullups could not. Every time one of my friends complains about back problems, I recommend bridges. I can also do a 15 second Lsit and I'm working on doing them on my fingertips.

When you say snatches and cleans, is that the typical olympic lift or does it also count with kettlebells? When I get back to the states, I'm going to add kettlebell snatches and swings to my workout to strengthen my back. I know how to do cleans and snatches with a kettlebell, but I've never been trained with a barbell and I'm not too sure if the gym I normally go to has the facilities for it. Not that I wouldn't like to learn something new, but we don't have people who teach that stuff unless you're an athlete (which I am not). I've done them with dumbbells, but barbells are something else entirely.

I'm at that same point - attempting stand-to-stand bridges. I don't think it's a strength / flexibility issue so much as it's a confidence issue. We could probably both do them, but there's a mental block to cross. But yeah those are one of my favorites and they build cables of muscle going down each side of the spine.

Kettlebells are bad ass from what I read, but they don't exist in South America where I live. I do traditional Olympic cleans and snatches, though I'm getting away from cleans because I think they take a toll on your wrists.

I never snatched for the first ten years of lifting, but now I consider it the most bad-ass exercise on the planet. Moving weight from the floor to above your head. It incorporates speed, power, everything - can't beat it!

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(09-27-2012 08:32 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  How about Leg presses?

leg presses are more of a bodybuilding exercise. Not much benefit other than packing on size to your quads. Ever notice how some dudes can leg press 2,000lbs but can't properly squat even 135lbs?? That should tell you something about leg presses.

Perhaps try front squats, goblet squats (as mentioned earlier)

Pistol squats are fucking excellent too. Way more difficult than they look. Here's a video I just found. This jabroni demonstrats what a pistol squat looks like.
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Well guys, Ive been doing more lower back and ab exercises and am also back at the squat rack. Lowered the weight a bit and started to pay extra attention the the hip drive. Feels great, nothing beats the squat!
11-09-2012 03:15 AM
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RE: Alternative to Squat?
Don't forget flexibility in adbuctors and adductors. Both have the ability to pull the pelvis at the bottom of the squat.

Keep hammering the abs.

Also, don't neglect you upper back either.

And really good technique is something that is rarely learned in weeks or months. The squat is more technical that most people realize and bar position, hand placement, head placement, foot angle, shoe type, stance width, body type, arm/leg length, and squatting style all impact the nature of the lift significantly.
11-09-2012 09:43 AM
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RE: Alternative to Squat?
Yeah you basically have to keep up on those chinups to get the upper back muscles needed to squat. Or maintain them anyhow.
11-09-2012 12:50 PM
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I actually find squatting with correct form and no fear helps my lower back pain, its when I go into it with apprehension that I get pain.
11-09-2012 02:22 PM
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Start swimming.

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