Post: #1

Stumbled upon this the other day. I believe Roosh met Badboy, but I don't know much about him otherwise. Personally, I can't imagine this working as an opener. Maybe in EE this works, but grabbing some random chick by the back of her neck, leaning into her ear, and telling her "You are so fucking sexy, and I want to hmmmmmmmm." or whatever variation he says, gives me the creeps.

Am I being a pussy, or is this legit? Anyone actually tried this, and didn't get pepper sprayed/arrested?

Post: #2

Fail! I think if he said anything with that accent to a girl in the states she'll probably call homeland security. Notice he's not practicing this move on a real target.

Post: #3

Haven't tried it and won't.

I could image doing this and by the time I got to "hmmmm". She would say "What?" and then I'd be like "hmmmm?". I mean what fuck does "hmmmm" mean anyway?

In England (and I can imagine the USA) where girls get approached by idiots all the time...they'd think you have a speech impairment or something.

What's the advantage in using this approach? You can be direct, confident and honest in other ways.

Post: #4

I don't think it works and I would never try it.

Post: #5

Works with drunk college chicks after 1AM. Need heavy kino when you say it and a lot of moxie.

Post: #6

Haha are you kidding me… This guy looks like a total clown with one hand in his pocket. He couldn't even get an actual girl to film this video with (sounds like a Serbian accent btw). Looks like some random guy who decided to start shooting videos and call them dating workshop or whatever. Compare it to the last video Roosh posted on his channel.

I think the line could work, but probably not in the context where you've just met the girl 3 seconds ago.

Post: #7

Actually badboy says ''You are so Damn sexy, (Pause) and I am going to get to know you (Pause) so tell me something about yourself (smile)''.

http://www.tsbmag.com/2007/12/19/pua-ope...om-badboy/

However one Greek guy told me that once in the disco he saw such a gorgeous Serbian girl that his mind silenced and he could only tell her:Baby I want to fuck you.''To his surprise the girl answered:''I want that too.Please take me from behind.''

Post: #8

This works 100% of the time. Here's some other variations:

"I would eat your liver w/ a side of fava beans fufufufufufufu".

"I'm gonna sticky my sweaty ball IN YO MOUF!"

"Bitch! I'm gonna take you to your house, and use your hairdryer to heat up my nuts until they droop to my knee, then smack yo face with them like a bolo."

"I'm gonna fuck you in my mom's bed".

"I normally fuck guys, but I'll make an exception with you".

"You look like a tranny porn star I jerk off to daily. Wanna fuck?"

Post: #9

Quote:Haha are you kidding me… This guy looks like a total clown with one hand in his pocket.

He sustained a gunshot to the head during the Balkan wars. I don't think his hand is functioning properly so he leaves it in his pocket.

I saw him interacting with a student and he was chewing the kid out pretty bad for not following his instructions. Our teaching styles are different.

Post: #10

Yeah...it seems to me this only has a chance of working with a woman after attraction has already been established, and there has been lots of alcohol involved. When you pretty much know you're already getting the ass, this could actually make the sex hotter, like she can't wait to get you home. But just walking up to a sober chick and coming at her this way? Risky.

Post: #11

just my 2 cents here (and it's kinda contrary to roosh's EE experience) but when i was living in estonia i was pretty much the only guy who pulled, even though i was a pale, standoffish limey who kept weird hours living in an apartment block with a bunch of tall dark latinos and italians.

i'm not really a big fan of their style of game, to be honest i think calling it "nuclear game" is too much of a compliment. they have these massive advantages when it comes to their looks (women love the swarthy mocha man) but they just squander it with what comes out of their mouths.

roosh's game is far more cerebral and when he's direct he's still not this silly, flowery clown throwing words like "beautiful" and "fucking sexy" everywhere. that's still the route to go if you're a darker dude, IMHO.

Post: #12

(09-21-2012 02:21 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  Stumbled upon this the other day. I believe Roosh met Badboy, but I don't know much about him otherwise. Personally, I can't imagine this working as an opener. Maybe in EE this works, but grabbing some random chick by the back of her neck, leaning into her ear, and telling her "You are so fucking sexy, and I want to hmmmmmmmm." or whatever variation he says, gives me the creeps.

Am I being a pussy, or is this legit? Anyone actually tried this, and didn't get pepper sprayed/arrested?

Im a big practicioner of badboy but i haven't done that opening from him. Sexual Direct, sure but not that. Its the type of opener that you really have to be willing to face rejection and have a strong frame. That's with any direct opener.

Honestly, I find its much easier not having to try to think about what to say vs. trying to come up with something. Plus it overall feels better. Honestly the girl knows why we're there, why act otherwise?

I find it High Risk, High Reward. More conversations are cut short sure, but i think its necessary to filter. Plus in my opinion, his Day Game style is perfect for walking women. When guys say direct works on only Eastern European women, i don't buy it.

Post: #13

This will work about 0.1% of the time. You would have to be so congruent with balls of steel to get away with this and be able to follow through with 100% confidence.

Post: #14

The first thing that's got to happen to that student is he needs a makeover. He's got no style, and none of those lines are going to work if he presents himself like that.

Post: #15

What kind of girl do you want to fuck. That's all you need to know if you want to use that kind of game.

Post: #16

Only 5%> of girls are going to be single, willing and into you, so if your trying that type of game to random girls on the street the odds arent going to be in your favor, and the rejections more harsh than with subtle game.. I guess it depends for your tolerance for chicks looking at you like your a pest/crazy, badboy strikes me as the type of dude that doesn't care about it

Post: #17

I've been trying some indirect shit and some very direct shit, but this line is some kind of plane above the direct stuff I've been spitting. I can think of a few places this line would work though. I kind of like crazy shit like this because it's such a strong contrast to the woman-pleasing game like Mystery's club game that I've been trying to roll with.

Post: #18

(09-22-2012 01:14 AM)LoveBug Wrote:  Only 5%> of girls are going to be single, willing and into you, so if your trying that type of game to random girls on the street the odds arent going to be in your favor, and the rejections more harsh than with subtle game.. I guess it depends for your tolerance for chicks looking at you like your a pest/crazy, badboy strikes me as the type of dude that doesn't care about it

If 5% of all the girls I approach will be DTF no time wasted just drag her home, I'd consider using this strategy at night. That's 1 in 20. Back in the day didn't Roissy do a statistical study of the Apocalypse Opener and find that success rates were that or even more? Can't find the post but it's out there somewhere.

Post: #19

video doesn't convince me. dude sounds like a creep, and I din't even mention the gay overtone of the whole sequence.

Post: #20

(09-22-2012 03:42 PM)michelin Wrote:  video doesn't convince me. dude sounds like a creep, and I din't even mention the gay overtone of the whole sequence.

I was just thinking this would probably work well in a gay bar.

not that there's anything wrong with that.....

Post: #21

(09-21-2012 03:06 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Haha are you kidding me… This guy looks like a total clown with one hand in his pocket.

He sustained a gunshot to the head during the Balkan wars. I don't think his hand is functioning properly so he leaves it in his pocket.

I saw him interacting with a student and he was chewing the kid out pretty bad for not following his instructions. Our teaching styles are different.

I noticed the crescent scar on his head. That's definitely a telltale surgical scar.

Post: #22

(09-21-2012 02:55 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Actually badboy says ''You are so Damn sexy, (Pause) and I am going to get to know you (Pause) so tell me something about yourself (smile)''.

http://www.tsbmag.com/2007/12/19/pua-ope...om-badboy/

However one Greek guy told me that once in the disco he saw such a gorgeous Serbian girl that his mind silenced and he could only tell her:Baby I want to fuck you.''To his surprise the girl answered:''I want that too.Please take me from behind.''

Yeah, Rio you massively misquoted badboy in the title of the post.

I'm not saying that line would work, but still.

Post: #23

(09-23-2012 05:45 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

(09-21-2012 02:55 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Actually badboy says ''You are so Damn sexy, (Pause) and I am going to get to know you (Pause) so tell me something about yourself (smile)''.

http://www.tsbmag.com/2007/12/19/pua-ope...om-badboy/

However one Greek guy told me that once in the disco he saw such a gorgeous Serbian girl that his mind silenced and he could only tell her:Baby I want to fuck you.''To his surprise the girl answered:''I want that too.Please take me from behind.''

Yeah, Rio you massively misquoted badboy in the title of the post.

I'm not saying that line would work, but still.

No I didn't. He says both, watch the video.

Post: #24

(09-22-2012 04:54 AM)Ramon Zarate Wrote:  If 5% of all the girls I approach will be DTF no time wasted just drag her home, I'd consider using this strategy at night. That's 1 in 20. Back in the day didn't Roissy do a statistical study of the Apocalypse Opener and find that success rates were that or even more? Can't find the post but it's out there somewhere.

it is way down in the comments there, thanks for mentioning this one, I didn't know about it!

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/1...se-opener/

"Used this one a few years back for a few months.
Success rate is around 14%, or about 1 out of every 7 girls. 7 Yes responses out of 50 attempts isn’t bad at all. Body language and vocal tonality is key. This is not novice game. You need to be at least intermediate to pull it off.
I only tested this at night, at bars, clubs, or parties, though. Never used it during the day. Results may be different then.
Come to think of it, though, about two years ago, there was another experiment run by a random guy on a PUA forum who did something similar to this during the daytime near the beach, though. He asked “Do you want to come to my house and ________ (something innocent like play video games)?” He found around a 14% success rate, too.
Things that make you go “Hmmm…”

Yes, this is very alpha behavior. Another one of the commenters say this is Renaldo game, (the brazilian football star) "you me, make fuck fuck!" - apparently it works for him.

It is a seriously confident frame, with a sense of expectation in it! This is seriously inspiring!

Possibly during the day would be more effective...

Post: #25

(09-21-2012 02:21 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  Stumbled upon this the other day. I believe Roosh met Badboy, but I don't know much about him otherwise. Personally, I can't imagine this working as an opener. Maybe in EE this works, but grabbing some random chick by the back of her neck, leaning into her ear, and telling her "You are so fucking sexy, and I want to hmmmmmmmm." or whatever variation he says, gives me the creeps.

Am I being a pussy, or is this legit? Anyone actually tried this, and didn't get pepper sprayed/arrested?

I can assure you that this wouldn't work in EE.