Post: #1

Today in the library I chatted up a good-looking girl for a little bit. She showed some IOI at the beginning but eventually I was a little hesitant to escalate and she seemed intent on doing her work. (my mistake for giving a shit about that)

So I left.

Then realized, fuck. This is bullshit. I called my friend and had him give me a pep talk about being a man and going back to the table to see her again. (It works if you're ever in a situation and have the time)

I went back, and since she mentioned she had only had a flip-phone earlier in the conversation, I asked her if I could see it. I talked about generic bullshit while I typed my number in her phone. And saved the contact as my name and where I live on campus.

Then I put the phone on the table and said while walking away:
"I was too much of a bitch to ask for your number earlier, so it's in your phone now. Text me." Maybe the self-deprecating line was unnecessary, but for some reason it felt appropriate at the time.

If she's interested, she'll text back.
If not, she won't.

This alternative number-getting style is a risk, because it's on her to initiate, and girls may not like initiating. Yet, at the same time, those girls who don't text back, probably wouldn't have been interested enough to end up being a future notch had I done it the standard way.

Bottom line:
If she texts back positively after you do this, you have yourself a quality prospect.

I'm not saying this is as good as the standard way - it's not. But it's an alternative style that may work well in certain situations. I'm not quite knowledgeable enough to know which situations that would be. But that's where you guys come in. What do you think? Ever done this before?

Post: #2

Sentrix:
Five years ago, if I had done what you did, I can say that there would have been about a 99% chance that she would have called me. I'm not exaggerating. I'm not saying that if would have lead to sex, it probably wouldn't have, but almost any girl who used to obtain my number through any means used to call me. This all changed during the last few years with the advent of smartphones and the widespread use of text messanging. Nowadays, if I give a girl my number, the chances are slim and none that she will call me. When they do call, they often call with pretexts such as they have a legal issues. That "are you a lawyer?" stuff is often just an obvious form of trolling. Don't expect her to call you. If she does, I would be really surprised. As you know, there were many things that you could have done better in your interaction with her. There are always things that I can do better. Next time, at the very least, ask for her number. I'm pretty sure she would have given it to you.

Post: #3

(08-29-2012 09:05 PM)Sentrix Wrote:  Then I put the phone on the table and said while walking away:
"I was too much of a bitch to ask for your number earlier, so it's in your phone now. Text me." Maybe the self-deprecating line was unnecessary, but for some reason it felt appropriate at the time.

Not only was it unnecessary, it was also a very bad idea.

Post: #4

My buddy looooves to do this. He has this scheme where he harrasses the shit out of bartenders to get them to make him this drink that nobody knows the recipe for.

Then he goes on and on until either a) he hooks them or b) they hate him.

Then when he gets people to get invested or whatever. He writes his number down on a piece of paper and is like 'call me'. or gives his number. NEVER takes the number. Needless to say, they never call him. i think he might be gay

He thinks I'm retarded and tries to convince me that they call him.

If I were a chick, I wouldn't call you. It's too much work. plus why would you call yourself a bitch? you can't say oh i forgot i wanted to give you my info so we can get together some time? any combination of words in the dictionary besides hey im a bitch you should call me.

Post: #5

No, this was all wrong.

First of all, never , never, never deprecate yourself to a girl you're trying to pick up. If you refer to yourself as a bitch, what is she supposed to think about you. Yeah she thinks you ARE a bitch. That's what you said you were, right? In fact, a good rule is to never deprecate yourself in front of any woman at all. Ever.

Second , never rely on a girl to take the initiative. They aren't programmed that way, and seldom will. It's a cop out to tell yourself that if she didn't text you, that she wasn't interested anyway.

Sneakily putting your number in her phone without her knowledge and permission was a poor move also. She told her friends about that later. She used the word "creepy" in telling the story i guarantee you.

I know it seems we're being a bit harsh with you here, but you'll improve much faster than if we patted you on the head and said "good try!"

Read some posts on how to ask for a number and don't handle it that way again. ever

And this should have been posted in the newbie forum, btw

Post: #6

Senior members here would have bitched slapped you had you done that in front of them.

Post: #7

Asking for a number is such a non-issue these days. I really believe numbers mean nothing. I collect numbers almost each night I got out I probably get hundreds a year probably. So many random names in my phone but yet almost 80% flake and vanish right off the bat. When you realize numbers don't mean shit you really don't care much to ask for them. Just hand the girl your phone and she will do the rest. You can either call her to put ur # in her phone right there or just text her it the next day. Its not all that serious.

Post: #8

Numbers mean shit. If a girl likes you she will find a way to make sure you get a hold of her again.

Your self-deprecation screwed you.

Post: #9

(08-30-2012 04:55 PM)MrXY Wrote:  No, this was all wrong.

First of all, never , never, never deprecate yourself to a girl you're trying to pick up. If you refer to yourself as a bitch, what is she supposed to think about you. Yeah she thinks you ARE a bitch. That's what you said you were, right? In fact, a good rule is to never deprecate yourself in front of any woman at all. Ever.

I've actually had some success doing exactly that, but I do it when I do something stupid/unsuccessful in front of them (sometimes on purpose as the setup), but only when I know that I am in a position to totally redeem myself in impressive fashion immediately after the self deprecating comment.

Post: #10

Never give your number to a girl, if you going to try a phone trick I've tried this in the past and ita worked for me, ask to see a girls phone, dial your number laugh and hand it back! Every time I've done this they've never had it done to them, I've stolen their number walked off had a couple drinks with them, chatted their friends up and left with a hug to another target rich environment, if the girl likes you she's more than likely gonna text you next day to see how the rest of your night went cause you left on a high note and got the fuxk out of dodge and left her wanting more...

One of the girls actually put me in her phone as "name of the bar thief"

Post: #11

weak shit man. just man up and ask the next girl for her number dont bullshit around

Post: #12

(08-31-2012 08:22 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Numbers mean shit. If a girl likes you she will find a way to make sure you get a hold of her again.

Your self-deprecation screwed you.

Point taken. Confidence is slowly coming back.