Post: #26

I am sure you shave your balls. I don't have hairy balls. I think it's gayest thing you can do.

The thing is a lot of guys shave their balls but don't talk about it in public. 'hey I just shaved my balls hehehe'

My point is people do a lot of things to enhance their life but they don't want to talk about it. (mens using skincare products, using rogaine, taking anti depressant, plastic surgery in the past etc)

(08-31-2012 06:03 PM)polymath Wrote:  @Samseau

Probably because it's fake.

I would feel like a loser if I wore lifts to make women like me more.

Aside from women and crossdressers in heels, I only know two people for wearing lifts in the modern era.

Kim Jong Il, who in his lifetime condemned an entire people to hunger and bleakness;

My old philosophy professor, who wears lifts to correct the mismatched length of his legs.

Post: #27

I did not say anything was beta because women do it.

The difference is, you look at a suit and think, "nice suit."

You look at lifts and think, "why does he compensate?"

Your rhetoric about success determining your strategy misses the point. You are a living being, and you deserve to feel satisfied with yourself. The times when you come across as unsatisfied with yourself are the times when you look bad.

It's the same reason I don't see much value in routines, canned lines, etc. You're squirming to please someone, and demeaning yourself in the process. The implication on your psyche is, "my natural self is insufficient."

Additionally, let's say you wear lifts, and eventually a chick sees them in your shoes. Will that provide you with success?

Shaving your balls, btw, is hygiene. Less hair means less surface area for bacteria.

Post: #28

(08-31-2012 06:54 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(08-31-2012 06:03 PM)polymath Wrote:  @Samseau

Probably because it's fake.

I would feel like a loser if I wore lifts to make women like me more.

Why should getting pussy be any different?. What if wearing lifts would make you a more effective CEO? Hell, a suit is like a corset for men - it gives men a slimmed, tapered appearance that usually doesn't exist under all the fabric. Your argument is 'this is bad because *I* don't feel comfortable doing it.' It's not about the lifts at that point, it's about you.

I don't have any great attachment to lifts. But to think it 'beta' to take a page from women, to consciously disadvantage yourself when it comes to seduction is ludicrous. Let success determine my strategy.

Personally I think wearing lifts is sending yourself a message that you agree with women that you are too short and not worth dating on your own merits.

Post: #29

(08-31-2012 08:30 PM)snoop Wrote:  Personally I think working out is sending yourself a message that you agree with people that you are too fat and not worth dating on your own merits.

Read that... Does that make sense? Or does that sound like some chick with fattitude?

'Additionally, let's say you wear lifts, and eventually a chick sees them in your shoes. Will that provide you with success?'

I don't see why she would know until you're in bed with her, or thereabouts. Hell, every guy has stuff that would make a girl not fuck him if only she knew. He just fucks her before she finds out. And once she's had sex, and then does find out, she doesn't care. 'Oh he's got nasty toenails...' but she won't *stop* fucking you for it.

Post: #30

Working out actually changes and improves you.

If you want to wear lifts, be my guest. Let us know how it works out for you.

Post: #31

I guess I am writing to defend short guys. (I mentioned I wear it when I go out even though I am 6'2" because it make my legs look longer)

I see guys 5'6"~5'8" range with a good personality and looks.
I am sure they could date a girl with a same height if she'd known him for a while.
Most girls won't give him a chance from short time approach though.
Just by lifting themselves 3 inches, I am sure they will reap the huge benefit.

Btw why are you on a game forum?
If you say those lifts are denying about your physical traits, you would have to agree to 'learning game is denying about your personality' since it didn't come with you naturally.

(08-31-2012 09:00 PM)polymath Wrote:  Working out actually changes and improves you.

If you want to wear lifts, be my guest. Let us know how it works out for you.

Post: #32

Some quick fixes that is easily obtainable:

-Teeth whitening strips, paste, or dental procedure.
-Spending money at a pharmacy buying products to take care of your self, (hygiene).
-Cool hair cut, one that maximized your look, fuck it drop 50 bucks, as long it’s a good one.

Hmm, I’m curious about the lifts, I’ve never thought about it, I’m 5’10 I always wondered how it would be to be closer to six feet tall.

Some questions for the guys who have tried it:
Is it noticeable? (The lift) With shoes, or boots?
Is it uncomfortable? If its uncomfortable one must ask if it’s worth it, but if you don’t feel them I guess is worth a try.
Also does your poster change a bit? Do you have to adjust to it,(the way you walk)

Post: #33

(08-31-2012 08:49 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(08-31-2012 08:30 PM)snoop Wrote:  Personally I think working out is sending yourself a message that you agree with people that you are too fat and not worth dating on your own merits.

Read that... Does that make sense? Or does that sound like some chick with fattitude?

'Additionally, let's say you wear lifts, and eventually a chick sees them in your shoes. Will that provide you with success?'

I don't see why she would know until you're in bed with her, or thereabouts. Hell, every guy has stuff that would make a girl not fuck him if only she knew. He just fucks her before she finds out. And once she's had sex, and then does find out, she doesn't care. 'Oh he's got nasty toenails...' but she won't *stop* fucking you for it.

Exactly- my goal is to create and present an image to women that is most likely to seduce them.
I only care about what works. Philosophical debates about "authenticity" don't interest me in the slightest.

Post: #34

1. Get your clothes tailored to actually fit right, including shirts, suits, jeans etc. Show off what body you do have in the best way possible.

2. Use LeanGains for fat loss and muscle building. Squat, deadlift and bench. If you don't do either of those three, start now.

3. Use Uber (private car service app) to get around town if it's open in your city. You'll never want to cab it again (and neither will she) Style points.

4. Learn how to cook so you can pull the dinner date swoop. I learned how to bake salmon recently and it's money because every girl seems to love eating salmon.

5. Pull the long handshake/ fast physical escalation via hand hold as explained by 60YearsofChallenge.

6. Adopt Zan's philosophy of sending out invitations while being unattached to outcomes. His stuff is great for inner game/philosophy.

Post: #35

A few overarching aspects of my game that I improved:

1. Abundance mentality

2. Improvement in appearance

3. Machiavellianism

Realize that nobody really wants you to succeed in the sexual market. Any gain you make is somebody else's loss.

Post: #36

(08-31-2012 06:54 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(08-31-2012 06:03 PM)polymath Wrote:  @Samseau

Probably because it's fake.

I would feel like a loser if I wore lifts to make women like me more.

Why should getting pussy be any different?. What if wearing lifts would make you a more effective CEO? Hell, a suit is like a corset for men - it gives men a slimmed, tapered appearance that usually doesn't exist under all the fabric. Your argument is 'this is bad because *I* don't feel comfortable doing it.' It's not about the lifts at that point, it's about you.

I don't have any great attachment to lifts. But to think it 'beta' to take a page from women, to consciously disadvantage yourself when it comes to seduction is ludicrous. Let success determine my strategy.

well success follows me and i dont wear lifts.

is this BETA?

Post: #37

(09-01-2012 01:13 PM)Barca_0087 Wrote:  [snip]

Hmm, I’m curious about the lifts, I’ve never thought about it, I’m 5’10 I always wondered how it would be to be closer to six feet tall.

Some questions for the guys who have tried it:
Is it noticeable? (The lift) With shoes, or boots?
Is it uncomfortable? If its uncomfortable one must ask if it’s worth it, but if you don’t feel them I guess is worth a try.
Also does your poster change a bit? Do you have to adjust to it,(the way you walk)

I've used 'elevator shoes' (not just lifts) for a long time now and they really change your perspective. Literally. All those people you had to look up to when speaking to them, all of a sudden you're at the same level *physically*. Or taller.

With regards to your questions:
1. Elevator shoes are built so that people don't typically recognize them for what they are
2. It's not as comfortable as normal shoes because you have more weight on your toes. It's the same principle as with women's high heels.
3. As a result you've got to watch your posture but that shouldn't be a big deal

Post: #38

(08-31-2012 10:40 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  \
Btw why are you on a game forum?
If you say those lifts are denying about your physical traits, you would have to agree to 'learning game is denying about your personality' since it didn't come with you naturally.

How you speak is a reflection of how you think. How you think, is a large part of who you are. Game is how you speak to women.

I think you would be hard pressed to justify that lifts are a reflection of how you think, or that they are a part of who you are.

I am sure you have heard the phrase, "all that glitters is not gold." The goal with game should not be to glitter, but to be gold.

Human alchemy.