Post: #51

(08-24-2012 06:28 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  The problem with Janka is this:

Never take game advice from a guy who is 185+ cm and looks like an Armani model.

His vibe is still fantastic in set, and if an uglier dude had that vibe it would still be a great vibe.

Post: #52

(08-24-2012 06:28 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  The problem with Janka is this:

Never take game advice from a guy who is 185+ cm and looks like an Armani model.

very true. this is why i decided to learn the game from the pasty ginger short little fuck so i know that if what that guy teaches works then i know it's incredibly accurate. and it is.

Post: #53

Paul Janka looks like a lot of Czech guys if they were suited up.However the latter do not have his game otherwise Czech women would be mission impossible.

Post: #54

(08-24-2012 05:36 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  For those of us who daygame every day

BigAlex,

Are you a day game coach? Or, do you just daygame for your own recreation?

(08-24-2012 05:36 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  I don't care for the street kiss close which considerably increases ASD and reduces your eventual chances of banging her

What's "ASD". Why does the street kiss close reduce your chances of banging her?

EDIT: I just googled it - "anti slut defense" - kissing her on the street decreases bang % because she feels slutty about the whole interaction - I think I figured it out.

(08-24-2012 05:36 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  tried and tested daygame techniques that optimise bang %s.

What are the best tried and true techniques to optimize bang %s???

Insta-date? Get number and call within 48 hours?

I hear Krauser tries to Insta-date and then go for a same day date later the same evening.

Post: #55

The whole concept of ploughing seems very damaging in the long term.So talking and becoming obnoxious to the girl while she shows no indicator of interest just to exploit her foreign status,naivety,lack of knowledge of cultural etiquette?Too turkish for me.
In my opinion you have to adjust the approach.If you see no interest you change style,subject etc.I never continue when I see no response or no positive response.

Post: #56

I don't know if these videos are real or staged. They seem real enough to me, but I could be wrong. I'm sure there are alot of fake videos going around the pua world, so who knows?

Its not like a street kiss close is impossible. I get a few every year. They are always a bit weird like Kraser said..

(08-23-2012 08:58 PM)Krauser Wrote:  They are a bit stilted because street kiss closes usually are, they are so intrinsically weird.

You can always tell that the girl is not sure if she should be doing it or not and you have basically hijacked her thinking for a minute. Its fun and exciting but it can feel like she is letting you mouth rape her, like she is fighting against her own "anti slut defense", she's not sure if she wants to do it or not but she is letting you because you basically forced her into it with your persistence.

Janka has a great vibe and good conversation. His looks obviously help him but we can still learn alot from his speech patterns, tonality, sense of humor, and non-needy presentation of himself.

Post: #57

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Post: #58

All these daygame videos are the most gag inducing desperate attempts at validation and blatant displays of hoe-chasing ever conceived by man.

I love how these guys talk about it like, oh yeah, he's got the right vibe for it. oh yeah, he's legit. shuttt up. don't pretend like normal people should be practicing this. YOu are a grown ass man approaching random people on the street talking about "oh you look different cos every body has color and you're black." "Oh my god were having such an experience." Cmon dude. You're a child

These self professed PUAs, a sad title in itself especially in today's culture of feminism and sluttism and all that--are not cool. Losers look up to them but ultimately it is SAD to analyse every detail about a conversation, that leads to a makeout session.

Don't get it twisted these dudes are selling a product so obviously it makes sense to spend their day standing around approaching girls in the street and recording it. But if you are a normal adult doing this, you really need to take a look at your life. actually, kill yourself.

The whole "I saw you from across the street and saw something about you that caught my eye" is a great line, because its genuine and conveys a sense of honesty and vulnerability that is magic potion not only to women, but humans. all that goes out the window when you use it on 20 bitches in a 10 minute time frame and everyone sees your dumbass running around doing it.

After years of watching the evolution of pickup, it should be centered, focused more on cultivating real relationships that yield real ROI for the man (read: macking), and not just ons and making out in public like a fucking chump. cos thats what that is. time to evolve this shit

I'll make a post and flesh this idea out further and hopefully a good dialogue with come out of it

Post: #59

Gio: No i'm not a daygame coach, I make far more money working in a sector that is more intellectually stimulating (global equity markets) but the principles I have been taught by daygame have changed my life for the better. So i'm passionate about it. I went from making 1 day approach in 30 years of living to over 500 in one year and thats tiny compared to the guys who have more time than me.

Daygame is a completely different beast to nightgame. Its like trying to learn American football after playing European football for years. You have to change your entire thinking.

Gold standard daygame resources in the order ahyone interested in daygame should check them out:

1) Roosh Daybang - This is daygame for introverts and its indirect approach is the perfect primer for fully fledged daygame. All hail Roosh.

2) Daygame Blueprint - This is from daygame.com featuring the best daygamer in the world, Yad (compare his looks to Yanka) and one of the best teachers in the community Tom Torrero (again compare his looks to Yanka). These are guys who look like roadkills and are pulling models off the street. They advocate an indirect-direct approach that is nice intermediate ground.

3) http://www.krauserpua.com - My reference for daygame. The only guy out there posting regular videos from street approach to close (sadly the majority have been taken down now). He works a highly masculanised indirect-direct which is where I feel most daygamers should end up for the development of their inner game. His book "Daygame Nitro" is well worth a read and all his model is available for free on his website.

4) If you still have time, check out the blogs of JustinWayne, CaptainStrangelove and Steve (check Krauser links)

Those are the only resources you need. I have literally read all the material out there on daygame and everything else is shit, especially Jeremy Soul's Daygame product from love systems (another londoner) and Janka (one or two gems in there but not worth the read)

I have no idea why londoners are the centre of global daygame - I myself used to be a londoner, must be something in the water!

Hope this helps everyone.

Post: #60

(08-24-2012 06:28 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  The problem with Janka is this:

Never take game advice from a guy who is 185+ cm and looks like an Armani model.

So you could learn absolutely nothing from him? Not even a little?

I've barely heard of the guy and haven't watched any of his stuff, but that is just a retarded mindset to have.

You can learn good shit from anybody