Post: #451

Zinc just prevented me from being late for work by making me wake up towards the end of my sleep as usual (at which point I am both fully aware and not groggy, but can also fall asleep easily, which doesn't ever happen if I awake from some other cause). I went to check the alarm to see how much longer I have to sleep and if it's "worth it" and found the alarm malfunctioning with the battery suddenly dead.

So now I'm getting ready for work at a leisurely pace, sipping orange juice and browsing RVF instead of panicking and running around.

Thanks, Zinc!

Post: #452

Been on Zinc about two months now based on this thread. Seeing all the positive effects listed.

Also feel absolutely great if I take L-Arginine with it.

Post: #453

(03-25-2014 09:51 PM)chambs88 Wrote:  Been on Zinc about two months now based on this thread. Seeing all the positive effects listed.

Also feel absolutely great if I take L-Arginine with it.

Aey Chambs have you tried taking it without the L-Arginine?

Post: #454

I do Arginine too but I forget a lot. Doc told me to take 1,000 mg three times a day on empty stomach. Here's the thing though the only time I have an empty stomach is when I wake up. Or when I'm out and not near my Arginine. Haha. Gotta get better with that but when I do take 3,000-5,000 mg a day the difference is felt.

I should take some now but I just ate two pounds of grilled chicken cutlets.

Post: #455

Just a reminder that guys who take zinc should make sure they use optizinc, a formulation that also contains copper in the right proportion. Wouldn't want anyone developing copper deficiency.

Optizinc:

http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Opt...blets/1361

Post: #456

MidnightSpecial totally agree, Arginine really kicks it into overdrive

It's the equivalent of no-fap for a month. Makes me totally primal

zerocool, yea I've taken it without. Basically get morning wood and shoot huge loads, but adding the arginine is what ups my libido like crazy

Post: #457

I got some really annoying cramps and vomitting deciding to take 300mg today, I'm going to drop it down to 50. As an aside I took the supplements on an empty stomach big mistake. Never had a problem before but this time it got me.

Post: #458

(03-25-2014 10:50 PM)chambs88 Wrote:  MidnightSpecial totally agree, Arginine really kicks it into overdrive

It's the equivalent of no-fap for a month. Makes me totally primal

zerocool, yea I've taken it without. Basically get morning wood and shoot huge loads, but adding the arginine is what ups my libido like crazy

A month ago I bought Natrol's L-arginine 3000mg 'for sexual health'... it has huge amount of l-arginine and other minerals/vitamins to boost libido.

Holy fuck

It is impossible to do no-fap now. I want to have sex /jerk off 4-5 times a day, but I have to jerk off because I have no access to sex that often. I used to jerk off maybe every other day, or couple times a week, not every day every other hour...

Post: #459

I can't believe zinc has had the effect I've been seeing lately. Shooting 3 loads like a cannon these past 2 days that's not normal at all for me. I feel great all day long. Could I have been low on zinc all these years!?!! I'm so glad this thread was here.

Post: #460

Gonna try this , how much is the recomened dose for this? Any side effects except bigger loads

Post: #461

(03-28-2014 08:40 AM)KC4 Wrote:  Gonna try this , how much is the recomened dose for this? Any side effects except bigger loads

You are posting in the thread that answers both of those questions in great detail.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #462

(03-26-2014 12:37 AM)Jackreacher Wrote:  I got some really annoying cramps and vomitting deciding to take 300mg today, I'm going to drop it down to 50. As an aside I took the supplements on an empty stomach big mistake. Never had a problem before but this time it got me.

Jackreacher you said you were taking 300 mg. What brand were you taking? How long were you taking the 300 mg dose? I'm taking one tablet OptiZinc from Source Naturals which has 30 mg Zinc per tablet. Also, I added 1 gram L-Arginine twice daily and my initial observation is that I'm walking around kind of on edge and more short tempered than usual. Woke up this morning feeling more refreshed and well rested than I have in a while.

Post: #463

(03-28-2014 05:21 PM)zerocool Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 12:37 AM)Jackreacher Wrote:  I got some really annoying cramps and vomitting deciding to take 300mg today, I'm going to drop it down to 50. As an aside I took the supplements on an empty stomach big mistake. Never had a problem before but this time it got me.

Jackreacher you said you were taking 300 mg. What brand were you taking? How long were you taking the 300 mg dose? I'm taking one tablet OptiZinc from Source Naturals which has 30 mg Zinc per tablet. Also, I added 1 gram L-Arginine twice daily and my initial observation is that I'm walking around kind of on edge and more short tempered than usual. Woke up this morning feeling more refreshed and well rested than I have in a while.

I took the GNC Brand 100mg Chelated Zinc Tablets, i started taking 1 a day a few days ago, popped 300mg got vomitting and diarrea simultaneously, despite the vomitting it didn't seem like the supplements were purged from my system, I had some annoying cramps for maybe an hour. Following day I started having the positive benefits I described, I stopped taking zinc today just to take a little break as I'm going to look for the zinc+copper combo to be on the safe side, and I'll be taking them on a full stomach from now on it's the only way to do it safely IMO.

Post: #464

(03-28-2014 08:40 AM)KC4 Wrote:  Gonna try this , how much is the recomened dose for this? Any side effects except bigger loads

Yes, I notice a higher level of calmness, increased sense of satisfaction, I'm not in an irritable mood in the morning like I usually have been for a long time. To be fair I have also cut sugar and bread this week, part of that change might have had an impact on me as well I certainly wouldn't doubt it.

Post: #465

Once more -- I know I've posted this before and even very recently but I'd rather repeat myself endlessly than have someone doing this wrong:

1. USE OPTIZINC -- you do not want to use a zinc formulation that doesn't have copper and develop copper deficiency. Bad news.

OptiZinc

2. Do not take more than 35mg of zinc a day on a regular basis -- you really don't need more than that. You can make exceptions for special occasions.

Post: #466

(03-28-2014 09:04 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Once more -- I know I've posted this before and even very recently but I'd rather repeat myself endlessly than have someone doing this wrong:

1. USE OPTIZINC -- you do not want to use a zinc formulation that doesn't have copper and develop copper deficiency. Bad news.

OptiZinc

2. Do not take more than 35mg of zinc a day on a regular basis -- you really don't need more than that. You can make exceptions for special occasions.

I been taking 50mg a day for months now. I have some 2mg copper pills I take separate but I don't take them every day. Maybe once every 3 days or so.

Post: #467

(03-29-2014 09:35 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 09:04 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Once more -- I know I've posted this before and even very recently but I'd rather repeat myself endlessly than have someone doing this wrong:

1. USE OPTIZINC -- you do not want to use a zinc formulation that doesn't have copper and develop copper deficiency. Bad news.

OptiZinc

2. Do not take more than 35mg of zinc a day on a regular basis -- you really don't need more than that. You can make exceptions for special occasions.

I been taking 50mg a day for months now. I have some 2mg copper pills I take separate but I don't take them every day. Maybe once every 3 days or so.

It all depends on the person.

If you sweat a lot in the sauna and gym.

If you bust nuts a lot.

If you drink and do drugs.

If you have a virus.

If the villi in your small intestine don't absorb nutrients like they're supposed to.

Those could all be reasons why you may need more. I vary now from no zinc at all to 150 mg a day. But usually I take 50 mg a day of zinc picolinate. http://www.douglaslabs.com/pdf/pds/7440.pdf

It's high quality. I don't worry about copper but opti zinc is cool. I've used it as well.

I just make sure my other minerals are on point by taking trace minerals.

Post: #468

OK it has really started to kick in now.

Have added in the following supplements each day:

Zinc - 90mg
ACV - 2 shots
Multi - 2 tabs
Vitamin D - 10,000 IU

Getting morning wood every day now! This is from next to none in the last 2 years. Amazing!

Because I added other supplements too I'm not sure if it's zinc or the other things that are doing it, but feel like a beast of late!

(03-28-2014 09:04 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  2. Do not take more than 35mg of zinc a day on a regular basis -- you really don't need more than that. You can make exceptions for special occasions.

Why not Lizard? I figured if you took something like Optizinc then the body would dispose of any excess amounts of Zinc. Correct me if I am wrong.

Post: #469

(04-03-2014 12:27 AM)dreambig Wrote:  Have added in the following supplements each day:

Zinc - 90mg
ACV - 2 shots
Multi - 2 tabs
Vitamin D - 10,000 IU

Getting morning wood every day now! This is from next to none in the last 2 years. Amazing!

Because I added other supplements too I'm not sure if it's zinc or the other things that are doing it, but feel like a beast of late!

I too have started Vitamin D (3000IU) supplementation. A few studies have shown a correlation between Vitamin D levels and testosterone levels, along with numerous other health benefits (see here for link).

Post: #470

I personally have noticed vit D has helped with my mental well being. The energy was there for a while but now I think the effects are more subtle.

I tried Zinc but it did nothing, might have to give it another shot.

Post: #471

(04-03-2014 12:27 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 09:04 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  2. Do not take more than 35mg of zinc a day on a regular basis -- you really don't need more than that. You can make exceptions for special occasions.

Why not Lizard? I figured if you took something like Optizinc then the body would dispose of any excess amounts of Zinc. Correct me if I am wrong.

dreambig,

Zinc in supplement form can be tricky, esp. when taken for months on end. Here's a very good read:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2407097

OptiZinc certainly gives you some protection, but, even so, some people may have problems even at that dose. Be careful.

Post: #472

Thanks for sharing, I think I'll have to try this out. I've occasionally taken zinc supplements in the past.

Post: #473

I've been taking ZMA for about 6 months now. I haven't noticed the increased loads like a lot of you are talking about. I have; however, been having absolutely amazing sleeps since I started. I fall asleep quickly and sleep deeply. After the initial 10 minutes of groggy-ness in the morning, I feel great and wide awake.

EDIT:

Thought I should add the other supplements that I take.

1. Greens Multi+. I'm a big fan of Dr. John Berardi's work in nutrition and he recommends this. I actually started taking this when I was working up north where there's a lack of fresh vegetables. I love the stuff, gives me all kinds of energy and keeps me very regular.

2. Fish oil with vitamin D. I don't notice any acute effects from this supplement but it's one of the most recommended by almost all sources.

3. Creatine and whey protein.

Post: #474

I get the same effect with melatonin.

(04-06-2014 10:15 AM)cmrocks Wrote:  I've been taking ZMA for about 6 months now. I haven't noticed the increased loads like a lot of you are talking about. I have; however, been having absolutely amazing sleeps since I started. I fall asleep quickly and sleep deeply. After the initial 10 minutes of groggy-ness in the morning, I feel great and wide awake.

EDIT:

Thought I should add the other supplements that I take.

1. Greens Multi+. I'm a big fan of Dr. John Berardi's work in nutrition and he recommends this. I actually started taking this when I was working up north where there's a lack of fresh vegetables. I love the stuff, gives me all kinds of energy and keeps me very regular.

2. Fish oil with vitamin D. I don't notice any acute effects from this supplement but it's one of the most recommended by almost all sources.

3. Creatine and whey protein.

Post: #475

I take 60mg of OptiZinc a day, and it's not enough.

Normally I down ACV daily and don't need any optizinc, as I wake up with wood tearing through the sheets and look to ravish any chick that moves.

Since I'm traveling I don't have any ACV on me, and with the 60mg of daily OptiZinc I'm waking up with a half-hard twig, and need chicks to physically stimulate me to get me ready to bang.

I'm going to up the OptiZinc to 120mg per day, half in morning and half at night. God I miss ACV.