Post: #26

(07-31-2012 12:15 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I got that too. I have a girlfriend now? WTF? What the fuck am I gonna do now? Make some BBQ with her and friends on Sunday? Stop posting here? What am I going to do in my office? Look at engagement rings? No more POF sluts? How could one make such a transition from 24/7 poon hound to boyfriend?

I thought about this last night on a date. Retail mall girl, hot, ethnic, heels, friendly and into me. I would LTR this girl. But how? It would ruin my life.

Could you be passionate about planning a trip abroad that you're bringing your girlfriend on? Is it possible???

I keep my passport in my laptop bag and about every night I pull it out and look at it. I'm obsessed with it. I grab it and think FUCK YEA! Pussy!

I do believe that there's many posters here who are really just trying to get a girlfriend that's hot or passable.

Same here. I don't necessarily think LTR is a bad thing, I just think there is a shelf life unless you have no options.

I tried to do the society norm and get married. I was fuckin miserable to whole time. I don't like having to worry about someone else. I just want to do what I want when I want without someone bitching at me.



Maybe I will create an old playa home where we can retire. We will have hot nurses come around and give us sponge baths.

You will have Roosh asking the nurses where the pet store is. They will give him more meds to deal with his dymensia.
Tuth will only communicate through the use of memes.
El Mech will be running dick game telling them he will shove his pills up their ass.
G will light up a cigarette in a custom made diaper and set off the sprinklers.
MikeCF will be wearing vibrant colors, cowboy hats and telling everyone they need to be taking anti aging shit.
Moma will think he is still in Canada.
Deb will be staring at himself in the mirror wondering how he got so beautiful.
Dash will be telling stories of world war 2 as if he was there.
Ali will pay an orderly to push his wheel chair, translate for him and help him sell some cell phones.

Sounds like my kind of retirement home.

Post: #27

Learning game got me laid dozens of times over. I got into the game to bang chicks, not to find a girlfriend, but right now I'm content chillin' with one hot woman who is cool as fuck. The kind of girl I never would have been able to pull before I got good with women. Yeah I still stray from time to time because I'm a man and I have needs, but she never needs to know and won't find out. The dark side of game takes a lot out of you. Over time you forget how to love and care for someone. It's nice to be able to get that feeling again and not feel alone in the world... as I did when I was banging another random slut every week and tossing her to the curb.

Was that beta?

Post: #28

Every successful person is an addict.

Steve Jobs was addicted to Apple.

Mark Zuckerberg is addicted to Facebook.

Warren Buffett is addicted to making money.

Show me a guy who isn't addicted to anything and I'll show you a fucking loser.

Game is one of those areas where your success is directly related to your effort.

"The harder you work, the more success you will have."

That's not addiction.

That's nature's way of rewarding productive behavior.

Post: #29

better hot chicks than alcohol or drugs.

I think looking at girls and wanting to fuck them is a natural urge, but so is wanting to feel good. Cocaine and alcohol give good feelings, too, but they are damaging to the body and spirit.

I see no downside to fucking lots of girls as long as you're being safe about it, unless it is seriously damaging other parts of your life. There is nothing wrong about checking out other girls while you're with your girlfriend. There is nothing wrong about hitting on a girl while you're hanging out with friends or family or even business associates as long as it doesn't damage your relationships with them. Hell, if you get a hot chicks number in front of your male business colleagues, I see you getting more respect than flack from them.

Don't buy into the mainstream myth that being a male with an active sex drive is bad. Don't let anybody shame you into thinking fucking as many hot chicks as you can is bad.

But that's just my perspective.

Post: #30

(07-31-2012 07:39 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Learning game got me laid dozens of times over. I got into the game to bang chicks, not to find a girlfriend, but right now I'm content chillin' with one hot woman who is cool as fuck. The kind of girl I never would have been able to pull before I got good with women. Yeah I still stray from time to time because I'm a man and I have needs, but she never needs to know and won't find out. The dark side of game takes a lot out of you. Over time you forget how to love and care for someone. It's nice to be able to get that feeling again and not feel alone in the world... as I did when I was banging another random slut every week and tossing her to the curb.

Was that beta?

Nah- you're good, bro

Post: #31

Initially when i was introduced to game i was told "You can use these skills to meet woman of your dreams and be able to keep her". What they didnt tell me was that i'd give up a lot of things that made me happy in order to keep her...


Gmac hit it on the head perfectly with his statement "The dark side of game takes a lot out of you. Over time you forget how to love and care for someone.

I've been in the game nearly 6 years now (David Deangelo days). Like bloody clock work you run through 10 or so bar or internet sluts and you get bored then you meet "the girl" and think about settling down. Then it hits you like a freight train...if you want the relationship you'll have to give up pretty much all of your guy hobbies. Not in the sense that you'll argue with her and cave to her pressure, more like the free time you'd go out approaching girls and keeping yourself sharp is spent doing things with your girl. Not saying it's bad but you eventually have to pick your poison.

Post: #32

"Gmac hit it on the head perfectly with his statement " care for someone."The dark side of game takes a lot out of you. Over time you forget how to love and

That's not the dark side it's the light side. I'm going to tweak it,,

Gmac hit it on the head perfectly with his statement "The dark side of game takes a lot out of you. Over time you forget how to love and care for someone who doesn't deserve it.

Post: #33

It's retroactive for you guys. You didn't "game" during your formative years. Sort of how some celebrities never got to grow up...you never got to game.

Post: #34

Agree with El Mech here, the dark side wouldn't even be the dark side if American lizards hadnt developed into what they are now. I dont think ill ever trust a woman after banging countless lizards that were engaged, with boyfriends, ex husbands... The list goes on andon. Maybe there are women out there in eastern Europe that ”deserve” it. But then again, whose to say I wouldnt havr the.itch again after two weeks

Post: #35

Nomad77, If Game really is an addiction and you chose to treat it as such, you’ll have to do what all addicts do. You’ll have to completely disconnect from anyone in your social circle that is still in the life you are trying to leave. They would only tempt you back. Thats problematic for men who specifically avoid men who aren’t in the Game as well. I suspect you’d lose most of your social circle.

Has your opinion changed since you first wrote this post?

Post: #36

Well, what I am doing is going back to how I originally was. Let me explain... I only found about about "game" a few years ago. I would guess, I am what you would call a natural, I always had women around me. It has never occurred to me that I need to learn anything to do well with them because I always did. But once I found about gaming I started reading all the books and website like these I could find. I was amazed that there was this whole community out there. And I wanted to try out this stuff. Before I was highly selective about the girls I went after and I didn't do one night stands, I built long-term relationships. But gaming was the opposite: lots of approaches and bang anything you can get. What I found was that while it could be fun, in a sort of frat boy way, it wasn't very satisfying for me. It was shallow fun, no depth, no real connection with the girls. It was being in a movie, acting a part. I lost touch with who I was and what really made me tick. When I wrote this post, it was at the tail end of some crazy years in Brazil and Estonia. But looking back, the relationships I had before were so much richer and deeper and I missed that.

So, as of the beginning of the year I made resolution to begin withdrawing from the game and returning to my old way. I stopped doing a lot of approaches. I stopped using game for the most part. I am in the possess of going back to my old self and old ways and I feel much better. I like the man I am now, this is me, this is what I am about. I am slowly easing back into my element...

Post: #37

It doesn't matter if you are fucking one woman or hundreds. What matters it that you have both options available at any given time.

To me game is about experiencing a sense freedom and finding joy. Can you be addicted to freedom?

Is game causing you to lose your home? Is it interfering with your ability to eat or survive? Is this you on game?

Post: #38

It sounds like you are OK with the path you’ve chosen my friend. I’m glad to hear that. Was I correct in thinking you will have to totally re-desighn your social circle and let go of friends who are still in the Game?

(02-05-2013 12:10 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  I am in the possess of going back to my old self and old ways and I feel much better. I like the man I am now, this is me, this is what I am about. I am slowly easing back into my element...

Post: #39

@soup Life is journey we each must walk alone. This is where I am at: http://www.rooshv.com/the-beginning-of-the-end

Post: #40

@Kwisatz No, nothing drastic like that. I still hang out with some of these guys sometimes. I just let them do their thing and I do mine. If they need a wing, it's not a problem. The irony is as I become more of my true self I see women being drawn to me more and more.

Standard game is about volume, my game is about selection and connections.

Post: #41

This should be your tagline.

(02-05-2013 12:12 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Standard game is about volume, my game is about selection and connections.

Post: #42

Well, I have nothing against standard game but the kind of game you run has to be congruent with your personality. To use another analogy: standard game is taking a machine gun to the fight but I am a sniper by nature.

Post: #43

I wouldn't call this withdrawing from the game, just changing things up to suit yourself and playing by a different set of rules. I really do think the 'red pill' analogy is accurate: once you learn this stuff, (not just openers and tactics and whatnot but the actual principles governing how women operate which make game work) you can't un-learn it. It can, however, be adapted to individual goals. Some guys derive supreme enjoyment from getting a new notch every few days. Others want a relationship but plenty of new notches on the side. Others would probably be married but are compelled to play the game because of Western women.

I'm just curious, Nomad. Has the urge to approach lessened after six months?

Post: #44

Yes, I don't even approach girls that are giving me serious IOIs now, just to approach. I have also stopped collecting phone numbers. I only approach girls now that meet a minimum interest level and attraction and if I can't build a decent connection with them, I just let it go even if they are physically attractive. I have found that your "connection" with a woman is there BEFORE you have even said the first word. You can sense it before you even approach her. The trick is finding these women.

A woman once asked me, what do you want from me? And I answered: "I want a piece of your heart and I want it forever." I am a collector of hearts not pussy and numbers.

Post: #45

@soup Gaming can also burn a lot of time and energy. The time and energy I was putting into it was equivalent to a 2nd job. The point is to refocus this time and energy back into my business. I even deleted all of my online dating profiles.

Post: #46

I wrote this two years ago and let me tell you it has become such a problem that I am now actively working on fixing it. I am limiting the number of girls I approach. The crazy thing is, women are now starting to pick me up! The last two women I met, I didn't approach, they approached me. I don't even have enough time and energy to deal with the women I know.

Still when I am out with a girl, it's hard to focus on her. I am always looking for that new high, the next novelty/girl. I can't be in the moment and I hate this. So I have now actively started cutting back on my gaming. This is a real problem. It's the same as any other kind of addiction like porn. Anything that gives you a high in any way can become addictive. The more you do it the more you will want to do it to keep getting that high. I need to reset my brain to some normal level and focus on building relationships. It has gotten to the point where I can just roll out any given day and just pick up a girl and do an instadate and have as much fun as I would on a regular date. Once you reach that level why would you want to build a relationship. But the interactions lack depth. Once they are over I am left with nothing. There is no residual value in them.

Post: #47

Hi Nomad,I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post here as I'm a newbie but LTR's suck the living shit out of you,while they may be comfortable and allow you to direct you're resources to some kind of meaningful outcome they are ultimately soul destroying.If you ever enjoyed having fun,taking a gamble or just being carefree this will all be gone.And if there is indeed an Alpha/Beta heirachy you will definately feel delta or gamma afterwards.What do I mean,Well the Alpha's are in control of their world.The Beta's are happy supplicating- but this is their way and feel contented because "they are fulfilling their manly role".However you have known and felt the joy of being an enlightened superior Alpha and as a result are reduced to being below the Beta's,simply,because it's new territory and that can be scary!.......I dont imply that I know everything about women,Alphas,relationships or even pokerstars but after a few LTR'S I have learned that you probably shouldn't bother until you hit like 60 yrs,at least then the women have no hidden agendas and just want a companion.FUCK LONG,FUCK HARD AND FUCK ALL YOU CAN!!!!!

p.s enjoyed all you posts!!!

Post: #48

Thanks, of course you are allowed to post here. I have had a number of LTRs and if they are managed properly can be enjoyable and supportive. It all comes down to managing the women. If you allow the woman the upper hand in a relationship then yes, you will be the one getting screwed. In the end it's all about balance. Personally, I prefer to be in a good LTR while having some side dishes now and then.

Post: #49

(07-31-2012 03:19 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Sure enough, you'll find a girl who chases your ass around, and if you so choose can easily turn into a girlfriend.

^^This. Controlling both the sex and the relationship. Perfect

Post: #50

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