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RE: Boca and South Beach trip report
(11-02-2012 06:49 PM)Merenguero Wrote: (11-02-2012 05:51 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote: (11-02-2012 05:31 PM)Merenguero Wrote: (11-02-2012 05:07 PM)foreman123 Wrote: I Lived in Miami for 2 years and found beach game to be the easiest as far as getting numbers. One of the problems with girls there depending on how you look at it is that almost all of them our tourists which is good for snl but bad if your trying to build up a steady rotation or meet new people. Not to mention the price of clubs is crazy but certain spots are free. I always had the most success at the clevelander which is normally filled with tourists wanting to have a good time while they are on vacation.
I agree completely. I give Mangos the edge over the Clevelander, but the Clevelander should not be passed up. Often I walk into the Clevelander, where there is no cover, take an tour, and if there is no talent, I leave and go elsewhere. Another advantage to Mangos is that it stays open later than the Clevelander.
Merenguero, don't you live in Miami?
I have never stepped foot in either of those spots.
Where else do you like to roll?
I don't live in Miami. I do have multiple family members who live there and I spent approximately one week out of every month there last year. I may get back into the habit of going there in a month or so.
Although I spend a great deal of time in both Miami Beach and in other parts of Miami-Dade County, I always stay in a hotel in Miami Beach. This is because I like being able to walk everywhere and I don't have any family on the beach. Everyone either lives in other parts of Miami-Dade or in Broward.
I generally go to the beach and the gym during the day. If it rains, which it does much more often than it should when I am in Miami, I try to catch up on some sleep and go to the gym. I never eat during the day when I am there.
I usually eat dinner somewhere between 8:00 P.M. and 10:00 P.M. I usually eat somewhere on either Ocean Drive or Lincoln Road. Many people consider the Lincoln Road restaurants to be better than the ones on Ocean Drive.
I know many people think Miami has substandard strip clubs, but after dinner I usually go to Club Madonna on Washington Avenue in South Beach. There is really no other option for strip clubs in South Beach.
After the strip club, where I go depends on the day. During the week, especially on Wednesday, I usually head to Brickell. There are several options there. Lolita is always a good option. Blue Martini gets pretty packed on Wednesday and Thursday, but I am not a big fan of that place. Baru Urbano is pretty good most nights. Segafredo is also pretty good. On Tuesdays, Boteco, which is far north and slightly west of South Beach is good for Brazilians. On Saturdays, I always go to Bongos in downtown Miami. When it is not raining, the outdoor section is always very good. I also go there some Fridays, but on Fridays, I prefer to go to the Brickell spots which I mentioned. On Sundays, I eat dinner at Club Tipico Dominicano. Sunday is the most popular club night there. I often plan to stay there after dinner, but I don't really like the set-up or overall vibe there. I usually end up going to La Covacha in West Miami on Sundays. It stays open to at least 6:00 A.M. I was there past 7:00 A.M. the last time I went. If for some reason I don't go to La Covacha, I may go to Nikki Beach on Sunday. It is the only South Beach nightclub I have ever been to. I don't really worry about ratios, but Nikki Beach had a pretty bad ratio last time I went. The talent was decent, though. In my opinion, that is all that matters. After I leave the main nightlife venue, I make a last ditch effort at the Clevelander, Mangos, or both. If that doesn't work, I go back to the strip club and throw up a hail mary. The Clevelander, Mangos, and Club Madonna are all in walking distance of each other and I usually stay within walking distance of all those places.
(02-16-2013 06:01 PM)Merenguero Wrote: I recently returned from an eleven-day trip to Miami and other than my posts on Macaluso's, I have not yet provided a trip report, so here goes.
I have been to Miami during all times of the year. The experience which I had during this most recent trip made it clear to me that Miami is far better from December to March and quite possibly at its best in January and February. Until I move there, I really have no inclination to go unless it is January or February.
During previous trips to Miami, I spent a fair amount of time in both Miami Beach and in other parts of Miami-Dade County. During this trip I completely changed my strategy and rarely left South Beach. The only times in which I left South Beach or got into a taxi were the two times I met rationalize_this in Brickell, one other time when I went to Bongo's in downtown Miami, and one time when I went on a date in Doral. During this trip, I saw way more talent in South Beach than I saw in other parts of Miami and I felt as though I would be missing out if I spent too much time on the other side of the bridge.
I stayed at the Catalina in South Beach. They gave me a really good deal. It was actually one of the cheaper hotels in town. Even if the price had not been a factor, I probably would have stayed there anyway. First, the place is very conveniently located on Collins Avenue, between 17th and 18th Street, one block from the beach. Second, it has a rooftop pool with a bar that always had girls at it. There were always many more girls than guys and most of the guys I saw there were a total bust. Many of my approaches during my eleven-day trip were made right there at the rooftop pool and bar. There are two separate hotel buildings which comprise the Catalina. One is the main Catalina building and the other is a hotel which was formerly called the Dorset. There is supposedly a Miami Beach ordinance which prohibits the Catalina from changing or removing the sign which says "Dorset." It is some kind of art deco preservation ordinance. The rooftop bar and pool are located in the building which says Dorset. Both buildings have lobby bars and the main Catalina building has another pool with which I am not familiar. I didn't see any talent at all at either of the lobby bars.
I did one beach approach during my entire trip. Yes, you read that right. The one girl I approached happened to be a former Miss Universe contestent and I ended up spending much of the rest of my trip with her (Please no pics or it didn't happen stuff. She has already been validated by two forum members, both of whom know me personally). The lack of beach approaches was mostly due to the large number of girls and almost total lack of competition at the rooftop bar and pool at the hotel.
I went to Nikki Beach on two consecutive Sundays and have a rather interesting take on the present state of that place. I know The G Manifesto is not the biggest fan of Nikki Beach as it presently exists. The first of the two times I went there on this trip was on a holiday weekend. I actually went there on the same holiday weekend the previous year. It was the only time prior to this trip when I had ever been there. The first time I went there during this trip, the place was unreal. I have to say that it may very well have been the best venue I have ever seen in the United States. Tons of talent and very few bitch shields. I approached about ten girls, all of whom gave me their numbers. The last girl I approached was an Italian-American girl from the north part of my state. I was able to isolate her from her friends and take her to another part of the club and have a few drinks. I could not, however, get her to go to another venue or directly to the hotel. I think she had to take her friends home or something. I was too busy with other girls during the rest of my trip to call her. I spoke to rationalize_this the next morning and told him how great Nikki Beach was and he couldn't believe me.
I went back to Nikki Beach the next Sunday. Bear in mind that the next Sunday was not a holiday weekend. It was really awful. Little to no talent and the place was pretty dead. All I can say is if you have the inclination to go there, try to go on a Sunday when the next day is a holiday and try to go sometime between December to March. The place went from great to horrible in just a week. It has to be better during holiday weekends.
In my opinion, Bongo's has gone to hell in a handbasket. I went there on a Saturday. The music was as good as ever, the outside portion of the club was open because the weather was nice, but there were grenades and attitudes galore. For some strange reason, I have had the most success there during September and October. I definitely will not go back there during the winter. The night I was there, they were setting up for a marathon to go through downtown Miami the next day. Because of that no taxis were permitted to pass through that part of Miami even if I called the taxi company to send someone. The angle I tried to work was to ask all the girls if they could give me a ride back to the beach. I got shut down left and right when I tried to do that. I ended up taking a long walk through downtown Miami until I finally saw a taxi. I strongly believe that the taxi I found was the only one in about a three-mile radius.
The W Hotel bar was a total bust during this trip. I took a tour through there several times. There was really good volume, but the talent was really awful. Interestingly, I have had success there in August and September, always with Southern California girls.
I also took a tour through the Delano pool bar. The place was packed with white people in their 40's and 50's who were probably from Middle America. At least 70% of the people in the place were guys. The people would not move when they were in my way and may have even intentionally tried to get into my way in order to piss me off. I thought I was in the twilight zone or something and quickly got out of there. The place has a nice set-up, however, and looks like it could have potential.
For future Miami trips, I will definitely stay at the Catalina. I will probably only go during January and February, and will do little to no nightgame. The only nightgame I may do is go to Nikki Beach on Sunday during a holiday weekend and maybe take a tour through the W Hotel Bar and the Delano pool bar.
(07-09-2013 05:19 PM)chambs88 Wrote: The beach is great. For tourists, the website http://www.residentadvisor.net/ is a goldmine for club data. Goes for any other city as well. Go to the 'events' section and check 'Florida'. It gives a rundown of clubs, covers, and number of members who will go.
The prices for entry are 1/2 or even free using the website. The promoters will often post for their clubs and by dropping them a quick email you can build connections wicked fast. Ask about a bachelor party or upcoming key-life-moment celebration you're having (moved I cribbed from GManifesto)
The best part of resident advisor is checking the number of people who are guaranteed to attend, because the website only lets you 'attend' if you've bought a ticket. Great way to scope out the night in less than 5 minutes. Any event with more than 40 tickets bought on RA is guaranteed to be a hotspot.
My suggestions: The FDR room at the Delano is hot right now. Check resident advisor, lately they have been posting who is going to manage the friday night guestlist and a namedrop before 1am gets you in free. Dress sharp.
Treehouse for wed,thurs,fri & Story on saturday: all run by the same booking crew (miami rebels) and the focus is on the music. You will meet like-minded people looking for a good time, but the pickup is hard. It kind of resembles what people say about Iceland...once treehouse closes it you're only a quick conversation away from an after party or quick hookup. On nights where my original plans bombed, I've gone to treehouse at 4:40 (closes at 5) just to bump fists with the promoters and find a random apartment afterparty. People are social and friendly once the music stops
I can't take hip hop or traditional bottle popping music so those are really the only spots I go at the moment.
There is a new underground spot called 'Don't Sit on the Furniture' on 16th and washington that's run by the same people as the electric pickle (a good spot in midtown). That's gonna be hot the next few weeks as well.
(07-09-2013 05:21 PM)chambs88 Wrote: Another great website for free art shows/booze/fundraisers is soflanights.com
check the events section
Great thread guys thanks. South Beach here I come. Rolling solo tonight.
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