Post: #76

(08-16-2012 06:16 PM)xmlenigma Wrote:  I used to Dolo a lot when I was traveling for work. Gotten lazy now.. Best Dolo times were in Europe.
But, I am wondering if anyone's been successful Dolo in a country/ area where people tend to be "protective" / "cliquish". I've seen that a lot in India, Singapore etc (maybe Asian countries).

I've broken the shells of these groups, but I was wondering someone whose doing it consistently as well.

I've recently tried in Malaysia and China. In the club scene I was largely unsuccessful. I was not there long enough to build any sort of network. In Malaysia people thought I was nuts when I would walk over to a table and start a conversation. The fact that every bar in the country only has tables tells you all you need to know about the dating culture there. In china I was able escalate and isolate a bit more easily, but the language barrier usually made it difficult and girls became very concerned about their friends at about the 20 minute mark of the isolated conversation.

Post: #77

I am in Taiwan right now. I rolled out solo most of the day and solo 1 night. Its doable, but you need language game. And no fear.

My new patent street move is the street-food swoop ™. . Post up and analyze the street food menu. Pretend to be confused. Ask fly girl to help you out w/menu. Number close. Insta-date/#close on spot. Im going 100% so far!

The wing is helpful in that you can approach larger groups easier.

1 dude and 6 girls is too much of a stretch. 2 dudes and 6 ladies = mad play.

1 dude limits you to 3-4 girls. Its too much to juggle beyond that.
Girls here generally go out in bigger groups 5+.

Sample size 4 days. So take it w/a grain of salt. But you guys are 100% right, better dolo than w/a weak wing. More than 70% of my swoops are semi-solo. Drink/roll w/wing to bar and we split up and hunt separately. Then when one of us got a group locked, introductions are made.

Post: #78

I never go out solo, I always go out with my imaginary "FRIENDS" that are outside smoking.

Post: #79

90+. Rolling solo is not the most enjoyable, yet it produces results.

Post: #80

A lot lately. I'm new to my city and don't have many close friends in the area yet. It helps to have a wingman and I enjoy doing groups with old friends/family as often as I can, but there's something refreshing about rolling solo, exploring new areas, and forcing yourself to engage new people, make new contacts, cold approach some interesting women of your taste. If I confine myself to my closest social circles, I won't experience much if anything new, won't really meet any women. Rolling solo is exciting, challenging, and ground-breaking.

Post: #81

Almost 100% if I want to get a girl.

I've tried a wing, but there is always a pace mismatch that either drags me down or throws me off. Also both of you have to win the girls affection at the same time. If they aren't into one of you, the group will go cold.

Going out with friends and going out to get girls, for me, are two separate things. Perhaps this is a reflection on the dead-neck friends I used to have, but also that being there alone forces you to socialize with new people.

Post: #82

what if a girl asks you "are you alone?" or "where are you friends?"

how do you respond?

Post: #83

(12-03-2014 01:02 AM)Lanky0 Wrote:  what if a girl asks you "are you alone?" or "where are you friends?"

how do you respond?

"i took my mom out for her birthday, and she went home and im out for a drink"

Post: #84

I think this is partly an age thing- older guys who are more established and have more game tend to roll solo, versus younger guys newer to the game.

Personally I never go out solo. I don't think I'd be as confident being completely on my own. However, when I go out with friends, I almost always split with them, and we sometimes even go to different clubs. For example, I may go to the dance floor on my own to try and pull, whilst they are next door having a drink etc. Or a couple of guys go one place, and a couple of guys somewhere else. I don't see how that hampers your game particularly, and it helps you stay in a good mood (you're having fun with friends) and you can all meet up later on in the night, if you're getting bored.

Also, I think guys on here are being slightly unfair on wingmen. I guess if you've got advanced game, a wingman will hamper you; but fairly often I'll get with a friend of a girl that my friend is getting with. This tends not to be in a situation where you both approach a group together, rather I see a friend getting with a girl, and there are one or two girls sitting near them looking bored. I'll go over and start speaking to them, see what happens.
Thinking about it, these situations are unlikely to lead to bangs, but it's normally still better than cold approaching a girl.

Post: #85

I go solo pretty frequently especially when my rotation is running low. I've never gone out solo and not gotten at least a number of a good prospect, most of the time more.

Also, solo is better when you need to brush up on (or learn) night game, if you aren't friends with good wings. I approach less when with friends because obviously I'm talking with them but also because they almost never approach so it becomes a spectacle of sorts when I do it. As my game has improved I care less about that aspect but it can be annoying when they try and "help" me on a 2 set and come in at the wrong time or fuck with the vibe.

Whether or not solo is the best strategy depends on your wings, ability to be social without a crew, and how hungry you are for prospects because until you get into a good set it definitely feels more like work than play.

Post: #86

Double post

Post: #87

I prefer to roll out solo, I'd say 80% of the time, sometimes 3 or 4 nights a week

Post: #88

(12-03-2014 01:02 AM)Lanky0 Wrote:  what if a girl asks you "are you alone?" or "where are you friends?"

how do you respond?

Normally "yes" and "over there somewhere"/"they went home" (false), i.e. whichever is the most fluid answer. It's not an issue.

Unless the friends are hot girls or high status, and she can see them, you're not getting social pre-selection value by being with friends anyway. There is no point bullshitting this answer.

All it does is raise the question in her head: "is he socially OK?". She then evaluates this based on your interaction with her.

Who you are there or not there with is irrelevant, but being comfortable being alone and opening conversations with strangers is very relevant. And of course, this only comes from experience in the same.

It's Friday night, off to the bar you go. No texting friends.

Post: #89

>90%. If I'm in a group of people it's almost inevitable that either some drama will happen or the group will want to go somewhere I can't stand.

I'd much rather have the freedom to run my own nights.

HSLD

Post: #90

I think the soloist have it by a landslide, especially as you get older

For all of the above reasons, besides who wants to be the guy who has to help his drunk friend into the backseat to "sleep it off"?

Maybe I've had my night cut short by not knowing whether I would come out of the club to see my backseat turned into a crime scene (will he pay to have your ride detailed?)

Would rather have them meet me @ the venue

Post: #91

In past 3 years 90% of time I went out dolo, I either got #'s, dates or bangs. In those same 3 years when I went out with others, it was almost inverse.. 10-15%. Seriously.

Granted I really have no good wings living by me right now, and the wing-risk opportunity cost doesn't pay off enough to bother with.

This thread was a well timed reminder for me to axe a few bar buddies I've spent too much time around this year.

Post: #92

I'm out solo right now. Made out with a Jamerican.

Post: #93

The main advantages of going out solo (I wish thegmanifesto still posted here, because I believe this was one of his best points, going out solo puts you in certain favorable situations):

1. You tend to not get too fucked up and waste the whole next day from random dudes buying you shots that you don't necessarily need.

2. You develop an acute sense of which girls are genuinely DTF from IOIs because you don't have much else to do.

3. You can get venues on lock because the staff (especially females) are more likely to talk to you when you're alone. They're not always just fishing for tips or whatever, sometimes they're genuinely bored.

If you're afraid to go solo, that's weaksauce and you need to stop being one of those dudes that walks around with his hands in his pockets and shit. Loosen up.

Post: #94

I've been going out dolo for years, and only once has a chick asked me where my friends were and who I was with. Out of literally hundreds of nights out.

I also go to the movies by myself if I want to see something and don't want to wait for a friend.

A lot of guys have this perception that people care what they're doing and judge them.

They don't. No one gives a shit.

Post: #95

I am going out solo more and more now, at like a good 50-60% clip now. Its definitely better when you want to be aggressive and put work in quickly. For some reason, I find girls are just nicer to me on days I roll solo. I don't get it.

Having a wing has its benefits though for sure. Some lays I've gotten would never have happened without a wing straight up taking over the other girl.

Post: #96

I've never done it. I love the company of friends on a night out. Add girls & for me you get the perfect environment.

I think I'd get too lonely to roll solo. For me dude banter is 50% of the fun. Most guys don't approach anyway so the competition isn't any tougher.