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Hilarious: PU community vs mainsteam dating advice
The video is self explanatory. You'll either find it hilarious or just puke.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/ma...e-16751689

While this is ostensably some kind of publicity of the dating company, it only highlights Heartiste's post:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/07/2...n-dollars/

I am a consumer internet entrepreneur myself and I know far too many successful entrepreneurs in the Silicon Valley who cannot get a date with a young hot girl, even if their life were to depend on it.
07-11-2012 04:44 PM
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8 dates, 8 FUCKING DATES???? Fuck that bitch right off after the 3rd if she hasn't put out yet.
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I still believe that if you're rich, you need a pretty fucking severe personality deficiency to be unsuccessful with women. Wealth helps, but it isn't a guarantee of success, and it leaves you vulnerable to gold-diggers (if you don't have a lot of Game).
07-11-2012 05:26 PM
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Just shows no matter how much money you have bitches are never satisfied. The guy has too much money, so he throws it away on a matchmaker. There are a bunch of Indian dating sites already. I don't know who would scam him more this matchmaker or a PUA bootcamp! My though is that this dude is rich as shit he should be able to find some gold digger to bang!

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(07-11-2012 05:26 PM)ThatNorwegianGuy Wrote:  I still believe that if you're rich, you need a pretty fucking severe personality deficiency to be unsuccessful with women. Wealth helps, but it isn't a guarantee of success, and it leaves you vulnerable to gold-diggers (if you don't have a lot of Game).

Let's say the guy from the video walked into the club and started approaching. The girls wouldn't know he's rich, and even if he told them he was they probably wouldn't believe him and it would come off as needy. He doesn't need a severe personality deficiency to be unsuccessful, all he needs is his run of the mill beta game with girls he hasn't met before.
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There must be money to be made from rich guys who lack game.

Forget teaching them game. Just set up the situations that will get them laid with pretty non pro women.

Hire professional male flirts to screen for girls on dating sites. Fly them out to parties that the rich man hosts in his well appointed digs, with private bands or a hidden DJ, and a little burlesque stage entertainment. Perhaps a social co-ordinator would facilitate party games. Have a few obsequious burly men in suits and ear pieces standing around as his personal security. Prepare him for the event with fashion consultants, make up artists and hair dressers. Hire hot actresses to play being sexually interested in him, and talk him up to the prospects. Have a professional wing man talk him up and keep him in the loop of the conversation. Have drugs and booze on hand. Have him take the girl away from his party to try out his private gun range, where they are briefly interrupted by the hottest actress at the party putting the moves on him.

It isn't that money can't by itself get you laid with hot women who are romantically interested in you. It's that you can't just spend it on a house and car upgrade. You have to put it to work to get you social access and status and social proof.

I'm sure there are rich guys willing to spend 10 grand a pop per night for such services. They spend it now on escorts. An entrepreneur would only need to set-up connections in the catering, acting, and modelling industries, and hire a few skilled online dating word smiths and event promoters to screen and bring in the prospects. How to market to the right clientelle would be the challenge, but once word of mouth spread in the right social circles, you'd be set. Great little business for the active player - working with all that hot talent.
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A hot chick taking advantage of rich guys? Nothing new here.
07-12-2012 12:00 AM
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(07-11-2012 10:15 PM)P Dog Wrote:  
(07-11-2012 05:26 PM)ThatNorwegianGuy Wrote:  I still believe that if you're rich, you need a pretty fucking severe personality deficiency to be unsuccessful with women. Wealth helps, but it isn't a guarantee of success, and it leaves you vulnerable to gold-diggers (if you don't have a lot of Game).

Let's say the guy from the video walked into the club and started approaching. The girls wouldn't know he's rich, and even if he told them he was they probably wouldn't believe him and it would come off as needy. He doesn't need a severe personality deficiency to be unsuccessful, all he needs is his run of the mill beta game with girls he hasn't met before.

The link to the pictures of Mark Zuckerberg having that fat legged Asian girl who is a 4 and he's got a BILLION DOLLARS, proves that Game is better than money. Just notice, the number of men driving around in BMW and Mercedes convertibles alone! I know a ton of rich guys that can't get a girlfriend. Once a girl can feed herself and have a roof over her head and have enough money to go shopping, men and money are not that important to them, unless they are a gold diggers. More young women buy condos and houses than men! It is just the sad state of affairs in America and the West. Game will work on girls that want guys, but the ones that only want to hang with there girlfriends it will do little. No man would want one of those sexless females anyway!

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(07-11-2012 11:05 PM)xsplat Wrote:  ... rich guys who lack game.

Forget teaching them game. Just set up the situations that will get them laid with pretty non pro women.

This is what mansion parties are about. If you've been then you know.
07-12-2012 02:42 AM
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(07-11-2012 10:15 PM)P Dog Wrote:  
(07-11-2012 05:26 PM)ThatNorwegianGuy Wrote:  I still believe that if you're rich, you need a pretty fucking severe personality deficiency to be unsuccessful with women. Wealth helps, but it isn't a guarantee of success, and it leaves you vulnerable to gold-diggers (if you don't have a lot of Game).

Let's say the guy from the video walked into the club and started approaching. The girls wouldn't know he's rich, and even if he told them he was they probably wouldn't believe him and it would come off as needy. He doesn't need a severe personality deficiency to be unsuccessful, all he needs is his run of the mill beta game with girls he hasn't met before.

I guess he could dress in super-expensive clothes, though that might also come off as try-hard. I wasn't thinking cold-approaching, though, I was thinking that lacking a severe personality deficiency, girls (gold-diggers) in his social circle would at least try to be with the guy to leech off his wealth. At least some older girls would be interested; those who already have spent over a decade on the carousel, and are now willing to settle down with a beta provider. Doing that, I'd assume that he could do better than your average Joe, provided his personality wasn't severely deficient.
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(07-12-2012 02:42 AM)poutsara Wrote:  
(07-11-2012 11:05 PM)xsplat Wrote:  ... rich guys who lack game.

Forget teaching them game. Just set up the situations that will get them laid with pretty non pro women.

This is what mansion parties are about. If you've been then you know.

What is a mansion party?
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Now she was making $$$$$ off this guy (count them), she could easily afford to to pay some girl $$$ to go on a date with her clients, and all of a sudden you find out how she can get any man a date.

Also, the guy was a super-dweeb who probably has aspergers, chicks don't dig that.
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I consider myself a perpetual apprentice at game. Even if I had several supermodels on lock, I'd still maintain that attitude to always get better. I carry that attitude in my professional life, I carry it in my personal life. Always get better.

HOWEVER, even me in my intermediate game level, I would fucking LOVE to start a boot camp for rich fucks. I've written about this on the boards before, how in Brentwood and Beverly Hills, I'd say the MAJORITY of rich dudes are locked arm and arm with absolutely busted chicks. They might have lipo and botox and collagen and fake tits but underneath all that they still have busted faces.

If I could get these guys to bankroll a table at Drai's, Greystone, and the Roosevelt one night a week, jesus, think about that kind of access. Lure some girls in with top shelf blow, a few bottles of goose, then you make a phone call and 3 Gallardos show up being driven by topless circus midgets to pick up the girls and we all go to the Penthouse at the Mondrian where there's a chinook helicopter waiting to fly us over Catalina and there's a michelin starred chef waiting there making blini to order to go with the 8 ounces of iranian gold osetra caviar that you had shipped in that day, oh and a case of Salon Mesnil champagne to wash it all down.

I mean, don't these rich motherfuckers have any IMAGINATION?!
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How would one get into the PUA industry? I would put Sasha and the rest of these clowns out of business and actually get guys some ass.
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(07-12-2012 02:10 AM)brianmark Wrote:  The link to the pictures of Mark Zuckerberg having that fat legged Asian girl who is a 4 and he's got a BILLION DOLLARS, proves that Game is better than money.

I don't really know if Mark Suckerberg, the CEO of Facebrick proves that Game is better than money.

That is just an example of a guy with a lot of money and a weesh girl.

If he was broke, he very well might have never gotten a girl in his life.

There are endless examples of weesh guys with money and fly girls.

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Damn with the kind of money I think these guys have, they could and should dish out the cash to get some lessons from some of the better guys in the "game world". I wouldn't doubt that Tyler Durden or Roosh would spend a weekend or more working with a guy if he were to say drop $10,000 for their time. I'm not an advocate for normal guys doing this, but if you got say 30 mill in the bank, it would be a better investment, than paying that scam artist chick from the clip $50,000 to set you up with some gold diggers who'll probably play you and possibly not even put out. Someone posted a link to a reddit thread where Neil Strauss posted that he charges $100,000 for private bootcamps, which in my opinion is one of the world's biggest wastes of money, even if you're Bill Gates.

I think a big problem with these rich nerds is they are just too socially awkward and odd, their personalities just don't translate over well to what attracts women, that is at least if they are going for hot women and not the frumpy, average, nerdy types they had in their computer science classes. Add to that, they probably have a shit ton of beta nice guy tendancies, they put the poon on the pedestal, and have the white knight idea that women need to be complimented, wined and dined, and treated like a princess, when in reality all that stuff is going to work against them in real life. These guys are afraid to escalate sexually, they don't know how to be a dominate male, that leads and takes control over the interaction, they are too concerned with being "respectful" and never create any sexual tension, which lands them in the friend zone, like the Indian guy in the vid.
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To be fair, I Zuckerberg was dating his now-wife for a long time, way before he made any money off Facebook. He looks like a guy that is simply not that motivated by pussy. And marrying this average but loyal girl is kind of a "fuck you" to all the golddiggers that must have been inevitably circling him (dude has billions, I *know* there must have been some). I can admire that. Would I do that? No way, I would bang different supermodel every night. But to each his own...

The video - the rich nerdy Indian guy should just import a nice docile wife from India and get it over with. He would have his pick of the litter
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The "loyal" girl usually has her own selfish reasons for being loyal. If I were him, I'd just bone hot chicks constantly.
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(07-11-2012 04:44 PM)fischer Wrote:  I am a consumer internet entrepreneur myself and I know far too many successful entrepreneurs in the Silicon Valley who cannot get a date with a young hot girl, even if their life were to depend on it.

You don't know too many successful entrepreneurs, do you?

If those guys at Silicon Valley cannot get girls, it's because they are Aspergers. They are tech geeks at heart.
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(07-11-2012 04:44 PM)fischer Wrote:  The video is self explanatory. You'll either find it hilarious or just puke.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/ma...e-16751689

While this is ostensably some kind of publicity of the dating company, it only highlights Heartiste's post:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/07/2...n-dollars/

I am a consumer internet entrepreneur myself and I know far too many successful entrepreneurs in the Silicon Valley who cannot get a date with a young hot girl, even if their life were to depend on it.

Are they in the south bay or SF area? Do they go to situations where they're surrounded with hot girls regularly? Half of the problem with dating in the bay for these guys is there are nearly no hot women to encounter in work, work meetings and work parties. And those startup founders are workaholics, so it's all work related social gatherings. Can't game if there are almost no women to game. Salman Khan (from khan academy) went to harvard business school to basically find a wife, since dating was so fucking shitty in silicon valley. He got a wife, who's a doctor and now lives in silicon valley, married. Sillicon valley is like the Philippines for women.
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Maybe Zuckerberg has that chick because she doesn't put up too many hassles and was the only stable part in the last few years of his life. He's a guy, with a lot of money. A LOT of money. He will be able to pull young pussy until his death.. right now he's just focussing on making his company bigger.

I agree that money itself won't get you anything. I have plenty of friends who have tons of money yet fail to get any kind of women due to self esteem issues. At the same time, I have friends who have money and pull insane quality of girls, consistently. The guys who get no pussy basically live in their offices and the only time that they get reminded of the good life is when they hear about mine or my other rich friend's stories.

Once you roll up to the club in a G wagon and 2 armed bodyguards (yeah, you can do that in EE), the girls throw themselves at you.

At the same time, not everybody has the stuff needed to be a player. Maybe Zuckerberg is just not horny enough to go out and bang other chicks, so he just sticks with what he knows best. Btw, I think they got married last month.
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