Post: #26

The thrill of the chase...

(07-10-2012 12:50 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 12:38 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  Well that's the thing. I'm only getting with hot girls once every few months.

My adrenaline flows for strange even in the 5 range over a fine girl that I've banged already. What's she like? I'm dying to know. Always.

Fuck every few months. I'm talking every few days and yes it's work. Asian girl at the deli today..I look,she looks. I open "Didn't you used to live at blah blah" No? Hmm. Ya sure? Anyway are you here for the teriaki chicken? Just kidding but seriously now.. blah blah phone number blah blah

Post: #27

The only prerequisite of a player is the willingness to approach and get rejected.

Post: #28

That's the easiest and first part. That would be same as saying the only prerequisite to being a good basketball player is the willingness to keep shooting baskets even when you are missing most of your shots. Takes a lot more than that to be good with women.

(07-10-2012 01:04 PM)Rurik Wrote:  The only prerequisite of a player is the willingness to approach and get rejected.

Post: #29

(07-10-2012 01:13 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  That's the easiest and first part. That would be same as saying the only prerequisite to being a good basketball player is the willingness to keep shooting baskets even when you are missing most of your shots. Takes a lot more than that to be good with women.

(07-10-2012 01:04 PM)Rurik Wrote:  The only prerequisite of a player is the willingness to approach and get rejected.

Nomad is speaking the truth.

IMHO, the limiting factor in becoming a player is SexDrive

Your sex drive gives you that Animalistic Desire to seek and destory, doing whatever is necessary to get new girls. If your sex drive isnt that high, you dont really have that insatiable thirst for new girls.

For the dudes with a high sex drive, immediately post nut, you probably dont have that animalistic desire to go get more pussy. Thats how other dudes feel most of the time; it would be nice to get some pussy, but there is no animalistic desire pushing you to approach, approach, approach, escalate to close.

My sex drive can become sedated when im getting it good on the regular and I dont try to pick up more girls unless its convenient. But if im not getting my release, im back to approaching women and changing my habits to better suit getting girls

Post: #30

The more sex I have, the higher my sex drive gets.

Post: #31

Sex drive or validation. For many men it's not even about sex. If it was they would focus on getting good sex instead of just banging a new girl. If you are really interested in sex, then you will be interested in good sex and given the choice of having good sex with a known girl vs bad sex with a new girl you will pick the girl you know is good.

But for many men it's not really about sex, it's about validating themselves. The same as buying the latest Apple toy or a new car every year. It's a way of saying look guys I am an "alpha male" because I am banging a new girl every week. Rich men here in Brazil buy movie and TV stars for the same reason.

(07-10-2012 01:50 PM)Adam Michaels Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 01:13 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  That's the easiest and first part. That would be same as saying the only prerequisite to being a good basketball player is the willingness to keep shooting baskets even when you are missing most of your shots. Takes a lot more than that to be good with women.

(07-10-2012 01:04 PM)Rurik Wrote:  The only prerequisite of a player is the willingness to approach and get rejected.

Nomad is speaking the truth.

IMHO, the limiting factor in becoming a player is SexDrive

Your sex drive gives you that Animalistic Desire to seek and destory, doing whatever is necessary to get new girls. If your sex drive isnt that high, you dont really have that insatiable thirst for new girls.

For the dudes with a high sex drive, immediately post nut, you probably dont have that animalistic desire to go get more pussy. Thats how other dudes feel most of the time; it would be nice to get some pussy, but there is no animalistic desire pushing you to approach, approach, approach, escalate to close.

My sex drive can become sedated when im getting it good on the regular and I dont try to pick up more girls unless its convenient. But if im not getting my release, im back to approaching women and changing my habits to better suit getting girls

Post: #32

(07-10-2012 12:50 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 12:38 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  Well that's the thing. I'm only getting with hot girls once every few months.

My adrenaline flows for strange even in the 5 range over a fine girl that I've banged already. What's she like? I'm dying to know. Always.

Fuck every few months. I'm talking every few days and yes it's work. Asian girl at the deli today..I look,she looks. I open "Didn't you used to live at blah blah" No? Hmm. Ya sure? Anyway are you here for the teriaki chicken? Just kidding but seriously now.. blah blah phone number blah blah

That depends on your environment and numbers. I personally don't stick around after the bang because I feel weird (disgusted? for lack of a better term) and by that time I already know if I wanna spend more time with her actually getting to know who is she and what she's about. A lot of the girls out here though are shallow and stupid so it's the environment as well so I gotta screen shitloads.

Sex drive is important, I think you could switch that with testosterone levels though. When I'm going to the gym or lifting I'm 3x hornier and driven than usual to go for the hunt.

Post: #33

I'd say not being afraid of rejection is another thing to add to it

Post: #34

Either way, Nomad77, I really appreciated what you brought to the table here. Atleast for me, it makes a lot of sense and brings me clarity.

I couldnt have made the list any better. I dont have #1 from your list (wide attraction range) or #4 (I have trouble with the morality of it) but I still approach and qualify, only getting intimate with girls that I want to have a relationship with.

Thanks again for posting this. It helps me better understand my own inner struggle that keeps me from ever having a huge notch count.

Post: #35

You can learn to deal with rejection. The other stuff...much more difficult or impossible to learn how to compensate for...

(07-10-2012 03:19 PM)trainwreck Wrote:  I'd say not being afraid of rejection is another thing to add to it

Post: #36

Great! That was the point. To get guys to realize that there is more to loving women than a high notch count. Personally, I would rather have two top notch women per year that really gave me a rush than 10 that barely get me excited.

Another way of thinking about it would be to ask yourself this: would you rather drive an Audi A6 all year or a different Corolla every month? For some men who subscribe to the standard definition of a player they would chose the new Corolla every month. I would chose the single Audi A6 - quality over quantity.

(07-10-2012 03:34 PM)Adam Michaels Wrote:  Either way, Nomad77, I really appreciated what you brought to the table here. Atleast for me, it makes a lot of sense and brings me clarity.

I couldnt have made the list any better. I dont have #1 from your list (wide attraction range) or #4 (I have trouble with the morality of it) but I still approach and qualify, only getting intimate with girls that I want to have a relationship with.

Thanks again for posting this. It helps me better understand my own inner struggle that keeps me from ever having a huge notch count.

Post: #37

(07-10-2012 03:46 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Another way of thinking about it would be to ask yourself this: would you rather drive an Audi A6 all year or a different Corolla every month? For some men who subscribe to the standard definition of a player they would chose the new Corolla every month. I would chose the single Audi A6 - quality over quantity.

It ain't really like that for me. A car is something you depend on and part of your image.

Don't you ever see a girl and think "I wonder what that pussy feels like?"

Post: #38

(07-10-2012 03:46 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Great! That was the point. To get guys to realize that there is more to loving women than a high notch count. Personally, I would rather have two top notch women per year that really gave me a rush than 10 that barely get me excited.

Another way of thinking about it would be to ask yourself this: would you rather drive an Audi A6 all year or a different Corolla every month? For some men who subscribe to the standard definition of a player they would chose the new Corolla every month. I would chose the single Audi A6 - quality over quantity.

(07-10-2012 03:34 PM)Adam Michaels Wrote:  Either way, Nomad77, I really appreciated what you brought to the table here. Atleast for me, it makes a lot of sense and brings me clarity.

I couldnt have made the list any better. I dont have #1 from your list (wide attraction range) or #4 (I have trouble with the morality of it) but I still approach and qualify, only getting intimate with girls that I want to have a relationship with.

Thanks again for posting this. It helps me better understand my own inner struggle that keeps me from ever having a huge notch count.

This isn't new ground. It's been generally agreed on that the effort/game/luck required to bang a 9 is exponentially greater than what it takes to get a 5.

To me, aside from satiating immediate need for pussy, having a higher notch count has just been a confidence boost. From where I am, it's hard to tell if it's going to help me snag some more attractive tail.

Without turning this into a fame vs. game thread, I'll say that I sometimes wonder how helpful it's been to go out grinding (or, what you might call "extending the range"). I think it's probably helped me deal with any kind of basic social retardation that I might have, but I don't feel like it's building towards getting with hotter girls.

Post: #39

Hmmm...not often. I tend to look at girls in their totality: the whole package but sometimes yes, if a girl has a really hot bod.

I am at a point now where I can almost look at a girl and tell if she will be good in bed. The more we interact the more sure I can be. By the time we I am holding her I can almost be 90% sure of how she will perform sexually.

I have already slept with enough beautiful but asexual women to not really care about just sex anymore. If you want just sex, it's cheaper to just buy a hooker.

And for many men, a woman more than their car, IS part of their image. A beautiful woman on your arm grants you a higher social status any day, anywhere than a nice car. Because the world knows that that woman most likely won't drive around in anything but...

(07-10-2012 04:16 PM)Homework Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 03:46 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Another way of thinking about it would be to ask yourself this: would you rather drive an Audi A6 all year or a different Corolla every month? For some men who subscribe to the standard definition of a player they would chose the new Corolla every month. I would chose the single Audi A6 - quality over quantity.

It ain't really like that for me. A car is something you depend on and part of your image.

Don't you ever see a girl and think "I wonder what that pussy feels like?"

Post: #40

There is a difference between banging a hot girl and having a real relationship with one. I have friend who is able to bang quite a few hot chicks but can't keep any of them. Why? Well, doesn't matter how good you bang, a girl is going to look at all of your other qualities in deciding whether to have a relationship with you or not.
It is here that things like your job, personality, character, real social status, etc. comes into play.

(07-10-2012 04:22 PM)soup Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 03:46 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Great! That was the point. To get guys to realize that there is more to loving women than a high notch count. Personally, I would rather have two top notch women per year that really gave me a rush than 10 that barely get me excited.

Another way of thinking about it would be to ask yourself this: would you rather drive an Audi A6 all year or a different Corolla every month? For some men who subscribe to the standard definition of a player they would chose the new Corolla every month. I would chose the single Audi A6 - quality over quantity.

(07-10-2012 03:34 PM)Adam Michaels Wrote:  Either way, Nomad77, I really appreciated what you brought to the table here. Atleast for me, it makes a lot of sense and brings me clarity.

I couldnt have made the list any better. I dont have #1 from your list (wide attraction range) or #4 (I have trouble with the morality of it) but I still approach and qualify, only getting intimate with girls that I want to have a relationship with.

Thanks again for posting this. It helps me better understand my own inner struggle that keeps me from ever having a huge notch count.

This isn't new ground. It's been generally agreed on that the effort/game/luck required to bang a 9 is exponentially greater than what it takes to get a 5.

To me, aside from satiating immediate need for pussy, having a higher notch count has just been a confidence boost. From where I am, it's hard to tell if it's going to help me snag some more attractive tail.

Without turning this into a fame vs. game thread, I'll say that I sometimes wonder how helpful it's been to go out grinding (or, what you might call "extending the range"). I think it's probably helped me deal with any kind of basic social retardation that I might have, but I don't feel like it's building towards getting with hotter girls.

Post: #41

Nomad77 Wrote:

• But for many men it's not really about sex, it's about validating themselves.
• It's a way of saying look guys I am an "alpha male" because I am banging a new girl every week. Rich men here in Brazil buy movie and TV stars for the same reason.
  

I take serious issue with this line of thinking.

• Who cares how many women a guy slept with ??
• Wouldn't it get old telling people over and over again how many women you bed ??
• That kind of behavior harbors jealousy.
  

The concept seems feminine to me.

If this is accurate, I am truly different than most men. I take no pleasure in bragging about how many girls I've had sex with.
I keep my love life private and I like it that way.

If what you say is true, that would be an indication of men becoming low self esteem, attention whores. It would also indicate that most men have a psychological disorder and it absolves women of many issues we on this forum complain about. They are mirroring the psychosis of, "many men."

...To clarify.
I have no problems with a guy having sex with multitude's of women,
but for validation, I find that disturbing.

Post: #42

(07-10-2012 05:15 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

Nomad77 Wrote:

• But for many men it's not really about sex, it's about validating themselves.
• It's a way of saying look guys I am an "alpha male" because I am banging a new girl every week. Rich men here in Brazil buy movie and TV stars for the same reason.
  

I take serious issue with this line of thinking.

• Who would really care ??
• Wouldn't it get old telling people over and over again how many women you bed ??
• That kind of behavior harbors jealousy.
  

The concept seems feminine to me.

If this is accurate, I am truly different than most men. I take no pleasure in bragging about how many girls I've had sex with.
I keep my love life private and I like it that way.

If what you say is true, that would be an indication of men becoming low self esteem, attention whores. It would also indicate that most men have a psychological disorder and it absolves women of many issues we on this forum complain about. They are mirroring the psychosis of, "most guys."

I agree with you, I can't stand people that needlessly brag about stuff whether it be how much money they make, women they fuck, or weight they can lift. To me people that do this are just masking their insecurities, they have a need to feed and pump up their ego, as a way of dealing with their deep-seeded issues.

Two guys I'm pretty good friends with that I hang out with frequently, brag so much, it really gets old. One of them is a clear case of a guy who is truly insecure, lacks self-esteem, and confidence, but tries to over-compensate by being boisterous, passive aggressive, and always trying to "one up" everyone else.

My other buddy reminds me of Deb from this forum, tall, naturally athletic build, handsome (with "male model" looks), and kills it with the women. He's a chill guy, cool, smart, and funny, so he's got stuff going for him, but I can't really say he has good game.

He brags and boasts like a motherfuck about all the women he bangs or that want to fuck him, which kind of irks me, because he can't be humble and understand he got lucky, and it's not exactly a cakewalk for everyone else. He likes to talk shit and kind of clown on everyone else, and compare the women he pulls to his friends.

I'm a big proponent of killing the ego. Not to confuse the ego with your self-identity or self worth, a person should always be their authentic self, but drop the need for validation, approval, the need to feel better than everyone and be admired by everyone.

The coolest people and some of the most successful people are often the most humble. A person who has everything going for them, but refrains from bragging and rubbing it in others faces', is often the one who is most secure with himself.

He has no need to tell everyone how great he is, because he just is, he knows it, and everyone else does too. People that are humble earn an extra level of respect, when they treat their peers as equals, even when it might not always be the case.

Anyways, rant aside, yes, validation plays a big role for a lot of guys who get into the "PUA thing and game". A lot of times they have issues from the past, mostly rejection or lack of success with women, and that drives their need to fuck a lot of women or the hottest women, to prove something to themselves and everyone else, or to seek validation for the void that previously existed.

I went through this to an extent, I used to be a total fuck up with women, I basically was like one of those "men going their own way" guys, who said fuck em' they're all a bunch of bitches, I'm just going to make money and smoke weed. This made me introverted, nervous around women, anxious, etc.

My game both outer and inner was abysmal, ofcouse at the time I had no idea that "game" as a "seduction science" or whatever you want to call it, even existed. It was obvious though that some guys were good with women and others weren't. To make a long story short as I went through my early twenties mostly not getting laid, it got to a point where almost all my friends had GFs or were getting laid and I wasn't. A lot of them clowned me and I was the butt of many jokes.

Once I reached my breaking point and had a mini-existential crisis, I discovered game and delved into it pretty deeply for the first year after finding BANG. A year later, my game was much farther ahead of a lot of those friends who used to clown me, I was notching my belt more often then some of them, and pulling way hotter women. This fed my ego, and I was really reveling in the validation, I was receiving, the feeling that I was "one upping" all these guys.

I ended up with a girl who was way hotter than any of my friends' girlfriends, and definitely in the top 10% for he town I live in. Having a hot girlfriend was a huge ego boost, but all that glitters isn't gold, she turned out to be a massive psycho bitch who fucked me over, part of why I put up with her for so long was the ego bump I got from her looks, but also because my inner game got weakened by her fucked up poisonous female mind games, and I came to think she was the best I could ever do.

I think another aspect of people successful with women and anything, is the ability to adapt, learn from your mistakes, grow, evolve, and always strive to better yourself, from what I understand Roosh is at the pinnacle of game, and it took years of struggle and learning to reach that point.

Post: #43

(07-10-2012 05:49 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  I agree with you, I can't stand people that needlessly brag about stuff whether it be how much money they make, women they fuck, or weight they can lift. To me people that do this are just masking their insecurities, they have a need to feed and pump up their ego, as a way of dealing with their deep-seeded issues.

Two guys I'm pretty good friends with that I hang out with frequently, brag so much, it really gets old. One of them is a clear case of a guy who is truly insecure, lacks self-esteem, and confidence, but tries to over-compensate by being boisterous, passive aggressive, and always trying to "one up" everyone else.

My other buddy reminds me of Deb from this forum, tall, naturally athletic build, handsome (with "male model" looks), and kills it with the women. He's a chill guy, cool, smart, and funny, so he's got stuff going for him, but I can't really say he has good game.

He brags and boasts like a motherfuck about all the women he bangs or that want to fuck him, which kind of irks me, because he can't be humble and understand he got lucky, and it's not exactly a cakewalk for everyone else. He likes to talk shit and kind of clown on everyone else, and compare the women he pulls to his friends.

I'm a big proponent of killing the ego. Not to confuse the ego with your self-identity or self worth, a person should always be their authentic self, but drop the need for validation, approval, the need to feel better than everyone and be admired by everyone.

The coolest people and some of the most successful people are often the most humble. A person who has everything going for them, but refrains from bragging and rubbing it in others faces', is often the one who is most secure with himself.

He has no need to tell everyone how great he is, because he just is, he knows it, and everyone else does too. People that are humble earn an extra level of respect, when they treat their peers as equals, even when it might not always be the case.

Post: #44

(07-10-2012 03:46 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Great! That was the point. To get guys to realize that there is more to loving women than a high notch count. Personally, I would rather have two top notch women per year that really gave me a rush than 10 that barely get me excited.

Another way of thinking about it would be to ask yourself this: would you rather drive an Audi A6 all year or a different Corolla every month? For some men who subscribe to the standard definition of a player they would chose the new Corolla every month. I would chose the single Audi A6 - quality over quantity.

(07-10-2012 03:34 PM)Adam Michaels Wrote:  Either way, Nomad77, I really appreciated what you brought to the table here. Atleast for me, it makes a lot of sense and brings me clarity.

I couldnt have made the list any better. I dont have #1 from your list (wide attraction range) or #4 (I have trouble with the morality of it) but I still approach and qualify, only getting intimate with girls that I want to have a relationship with.

Thanks again for posting this. It helps me better understand my own inner struggle that keeps me from ever having a huge notch count.

Had a good run but lost me here. Two a year? Anyway the Corolla below may explain this more clearly @ 7s in the 1/8
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Post: #45

(07-10-2012 01:53 PM)soup Wrote:  The more sex I have, the higher my sex drive gets.

Me, too. The more I fuck, the more I want to fuck, and the hornier I am all the time

And the more girls I fuck, the more new girls I want to fuck

It's not the worst problem in the world to have, though

Post: #46

(07-10-2012 08:44 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 01:53 PM)soup Wrote:  The more sex I have, the higher my sex drive gets.

And the more girls I fuck, the more new girls I want to fuck

How many more girls do we want to get? Always more than we've already had weather it's 1 or 10000. "Just a few more"...will be what's heard even as we lay dying someday.

Post: #47

(07-10-2012 06:33 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Here is what all the pickup books don't tell you, and I am speaking from personal experience. There are certain prerequisites to being a “player”:

1. Wide attraction range. You have to be attracted to a wide range of girls, the wider the better. 95% of the girls you will get will be in the 4 - 7 range. You will occasionally get a top tier girl but this will be the exception not the norm. If you have a specific type of girl you find attractive then it will be difficult for you. The more specific the type you are attracted to the more difficult it will be simply because the potential pool of those types of girls will be very limited in any given location. Every guy I know that has slept with a lot of girls had this characteristic. Brazilians possess this trait and this is the primary reason there is a lot of sex going on there. A Brazilian guy will just as easily bang a 6 as he will a 9.

2. High sex drive. This is the gas for your engine. Your primary motivation for going out there and doing the work. Without a high sex drive you won't have the motivation to put in the work to get the girls. You also won't find the lower quality girls that attractive. A lot of guys think they have a higher sex drive than they really do. Also as you age, your sex drive gradually decreases. After mid-thirties you will definitely notice a drop-off compared to your mid-twenties. So if it’s not high to when you are young it certainly won’t get better as you get older.

3. Time and energy. It takes a tremendous amount of time and energy to go out there and do the approaches and then the follow up work to get a lot of girls. With a typical success rate of 20%, 80% of the time and effort will amount to nothing. You have to be able to keep going in the face of these kinds of odds and that's takes more than time and effort, it takes dedication. The amount of time and effort requires is essentially equivalent to a second job. And just like a job it also requires that level of consistency. It has to be something you are doing practically every day in some way.

4. Subjugation of your morality. Women exchange sex for relationships - period. Men want sex, women want relationships. It is extremely rare to find a woman that will have sex just for the joy of sex on a regular basis. You can find a woman, that for whatever reason, wants to just have sex for one night but to find one that really just wants to be a fuck-buddy is very difficult. What this means is that, most of the time, you will have to present the possibility of relationship to get sex from a woman - in another words, sell her a fantasy. You will know that are you doing this and in essence you are being dishonest or telling a “white lie”. Initially, it won't bother you too much because you will justify it by telling yourself it's a mutual exchange of pleasure etc. etc. But over time, it will start to get to you unless you are able to suppress your morality. For some this may be easy but for others it will be more difficult. The other issue that will fall under this category is alcohol and drugs. At what point of being wasted do you decide a girl no longer really knows what the hell she is doing. I had to invent ways to test this because personally I wanted to make sure she knew exactly what was happening. I didn’t want to wake up the next day and have to deal with any kind of date rape situation.

Unless you have or can somehow acquire these prerequisites your ability to be any kind of substantial player will be limited. Your personality and character can either help or hinder you this regard. While I possessed No. 2 and 3 I came to eventually realize that I did not possess No. 1 and 4. The end results of this combination being, that while I was able to meet to lot of women I didn't bang a lot of women. My attraction range was actually quite narrow. When I did meet a girl I was really attracted to I was very effective but those girls didn’t come along that often. The majority of the girls I met fell outside of my attraction range and that, coupled with my sense of morality, drastically reduced my final numbers. Over time I have come to accept this: that while I may not bang a lot of girls the ones I do get are of a very high quality. A true player is like a goose hunter, he uses a shot gun and is after numbers. I on the other hand was like a big cat game hunter: I used a sniper rifle and stalked and killed one prey at a time.

Nomad77, I disagree with much of your post, and your response to my previous comment in this thread.

Lets start with your original post. Having a high sex drive is a neutral point. Many men with modest sex drives get more pussy than horny fuckers that whack 8 times a day.

Point 4 is also false. To be honest, it sounds like you have guilt issues, or guilt over your style of game.

As for response to my comment, no. Your post does not break down any technical aspect of game. Your talking about internal stuff.


Overall, your post stinks of newb. Not to be a downer, but you come on RVF and make a post with a title like "prerequisites of a player" and then deliver advice like 1. "don't be picky" 2. "be horny" 3. "spend a ton of time doing it" 4. "pretend to offer her a relationship, and get over being guilty fucking drunk girls".

Am I the only person who thinks this advice is pretty lame?

Not only is the advice bad, but it's also WAY overgeneralizing from a strange frame of mind.

Post: #48

Good material here, read this forum for some time now.

The amount of "impressive" you have to be to get an 8+ (even one night) goes up astronomically opposed to 5-7.

A lot of it with the 8's is really out of control, besides money. Generally, they are looking for a natural alpha who is tall and good-looking. Rarely do you see an 8 with a short fatboy or nerd-looking guy (unless he's somehow financially supporting her or she's an escort), no matter how much game he has. It does happen, but it definitely not the norm.

I've always been in that strange middle-ground where I can attract the 8's and up in the short-term, but overall am better with 6-7's (although I prefer 8's and up - who doesn't).

Post: #49

(07-10-2012 12:50 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 12:38 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  Well that's the thing. I'm only getting with hot girls once every few months.

My adrenaline flows for strange even in the 5 range over a fine girl that I've banged already. What's she like? I'm dying to know. Always.

Fuck every few months. I'm talking every few days and yes it's work. Asian girl at the deli today..I look,she looks. I open "Didn't you used to live at blah blah" No? Hmm. Ya sure? Anyway are you here for the teriaki chicken? Just kidding but seriously now.. blah blah phone number blah blah

A lot of guys aren't nasty perverts that crave pussy like us. I remember someone told me I would kill myself if I was neutered and it's true. When I lost my virginity, I changed overnight. It was like shooting up for the first time. I think the biggest players truly love pussy, tits, ass, everything while regular guys just like it.

Post: #50

Good list, Nomad!