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Eight days no porn/no fap. Feeling the energy flow.

Had about 2 hours to kill before an appointment. Went to the mall to get some jeans and on the way out sat outside Starbucks. A brunette sat down next to me with a sandwich of some kind and a Camelback bottle.

After some deliberation--I haven't cold approached in a LONG time--I grabbed my bag and rolled past her.

Me: Excuse me, is that a camelback bottle?
her: Yeah it is

As soon as we start talking I realize she is way below my standards threshold. Potchmarked face, disagreeable bone structure and pasty, flabby body. About a 5.
Decided to continue anyway for practice.

Had convo about being new to Arizona, going on my first hike and almost dying of thirst. She went on at length about places to get inexpensive hiking equipment. I mostly let her talk and would ask questions while dropping small pieces of bait. I interrupted her at one point to drop a statement--"You sound like you know a lot about hiking"--that was ill-timed. Overall it was a fine conversation but boring and without any sexual/flirty energy at all. Next!

With about 30 minutes left I decided to go to the college campus. With spring break over and the weather blooming I knew it would be target-rich. And holy fuck it was.

Went inside a trendy wine bar to use the bathroom, got a quick drink of water and was on my way to leave. Outside the restaurant I saw a blonde girl in a skirt gathering up her things in a backpack and messing around with ear buds and her iphone. I have a stock opener for this situation.

I go outside and immediately say, "Hey, what kind of ear buds are those?"

She looks confused and says, "uh, Apple.."
Me: Oh like the stock apple brand. Got you. Yeah I was wondering because I have really small ears as you can see. It's really hard to find ear buds that will stay in my ears when I'm at the gym or whatever.
Her: I have small ears too.
Me: Nuh uh, lemme see.
(she pulls back her blonde hair to reveal actually pretty small ears)
Me: Oh wow those are tiny! I suddenly feel a lot better about myself. Smile
Her: haha oh woww thats messed up!
Me: Nah just playing.
Forget what we talked about next but she ended up saying,
Her: I'm poor. Poor college student.
Me: Oh no! Small ears AND poor. That's two strikes.
Her: :O
Me: I hope you're studying to be a doctor or something.
Her, eyes lighting up: A nurse, actually!
Me: Oh, nice!
Her: Yeah! So does that give me a strike back?
Me: Yes it does. So now...you only have one strike. Anyway I could totally tell you were going to be a nurse.
Her: ....oh? How?
Me: I have a lot of ppl in medicine in my family. So..I could just tell.
Her:, uh ok...
Me: I'm checkmat by the way (extend hand, she shakes)
Her: Sarah
Me: Nice to meet you Sarah. I see you're rocking the blue nail polish today (after shaking her hand, holding it and observing)
Her: Yeah, teal.
Me: Teal, huh. (couldn't think of a witty retort)

Blahblahblah talked about where she's from, (cali) I drop that I used to live in Cali and she asked where. Talked about accents and things like that.
At one point she raises her eyebrow at me in an overtly flirty manner. Almost tongue-in-cheek. This catches me off guard and I called her on it. "What's up with this look you're giving? Oh man." Probably poor form from me.
Me: Anyway let me get your number, I'll shoot you a text sometime
Her: My phone actually is just about to die
Me: That's okay, mine isn't. (take out phone and she puts her name in)
Ok, talk to you later.

I check the name as I walk away and she put in Sarah ( ) with a emoji of a blonde girl. I texted her right away "so that's why it took you so long..emoji chick.
nice meeting you ttyl"
no response. Probably texted wayy too fast but it felt really good to

a) start approaching again and
b) do my first ever approach on the college campus like I've ready about Gio doing for over a year now! It's a bonanza of opportunities.

Appetizers, sometimes
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I've been hungry. Gio made a good point when he pointed out that I needed 3 approaches a day.

I have been trying to do 3 a day. It's not easy.

I've managed 9 so far this week:

-2 married chicks
-3 boyfriends
-3 ejections
-1 number

The number that I got fizzled already. Going to try to do more tomorrow. Would be nice to reach 15 for the week.

All I know is, I want this and am putting myself into approach environments consistently even if it's cold as fuck out.

Whole foods, malls, department stores, whatever.

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Did a ton of mall daygame approach, using the question whether there was X department store or not. No numbers followed, a few outright blowouts which didn't faze me, but it is DC so I was really pressed for good prospects even after doing a few circuits. My logistics for anything this weekend were shot to shit, but I approached anyways to build experience and become a better conversationalist.

Just got back from another party where I approached constantly. Only one very solid lead which I made one absolutely fatal mistake. I know it and I'm kicking myself for it still. Really cute and sweet-smelling brunette through social circle game, chatted her up.

As with my last approach post, built comfort fantastically and quickly, got my arm around her hip, pulling her close to talk in her ear over the music.

Fatal mistake: did not read the situation well. A really popular song came on and I wanted to sing the lyrics with her. I tried this earlier in my last approach post. It did not work. I gave it a second try and before you know it, another guy swoops in and steals her away.

The absolute kicker was that she actually wanted me to keep talking and I had a funny story right in the pipeline ready before that happened.

Still, game recognized, and I listened in to see how his performance was and learn because I was unable to reengage after the song. Ultimately, however, he spooked the cat because he was a bit too aggressive and she peaced.

Key takeaways from today and this approach:

Singing along for me is only in order to open. Never again dropping conversation to spontaneously pull her in. Recognize she's already hooked if we're talking.

Still having trouble sexualizing conversations. I have already identified this as the next "approach anxiety". Within a few minutes he was already running his fingers through her hair and right up at her neck. This is both physically moving beyond comfort kino and in conversation.

Isolation was the key. I needed to pull her off the dance floor when that song started and continued the conversation.

Fucking break interview mode. My brain is already programmed to do this when talking to chicks. I need to reprogram it to say whatever random ass shit comes to mind. First, I need my brain to start thinking about random ass shit during approaches. I also need to get better at dropping bait. This is going to be the most difficult part and the part that helps me most.


In more positive news today, though, I got a gorgeous pair of AE McAllisters, rocked them with a brand new suit, color coordinated new tie and pocket square for work and wore them afterwards. Combined with the gains I've been making by hitting the gym every day for the past month, I now understand what rock solid inner game and confidence means. I literally felt like was going to bust out laughing with a huge-ass grin on my face, I felt so good about strolling around. Completely outcome independent, blowing off the blowouts. I'm going to enjoy this summer.
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I hit the gym today as the start of my workout week.

Im hitting back so im wearing a cut shirt to look like a muscle tee

Towards the end of my workout I spot this dirty blond (8) in yoga pants, and fake tits walk into my section of the gym.

She stops and talks to these two dudes who are doing lat pull downs, they collectively start working in together. Then they all leave over to cable section of the gym.

I compleatly ignore them while working out, though I can feel her take small glances at me.

Over at the cables i can see her working out across the gym, I sense her take a few more glances at me. So I say fuck it.

I go into the locker room and change my shirt walk out and time it so that im passing her on the cables just as she is coming to the end of a set

I open:

Me; when is your next competition?

Her; oh haha i dont compete I dont have the time but that girl over there does ( she points to a personal trainer who is a short stocky in shape broad with a ugly face)

Me; yea you somtimes see a lot of people come through in here who compete and I though maybe you did

Her; no i just dont have time since I work 7 days a week

Me; how long have you been training

Her; ummm about 5 years though last year i was in much better shape than i am this year.

She proceeds to tell me about her squating personal best and I say how girls/people would get toner if they hit the squat rack. She then goes

Her; last year my legs were way more toned than they are now ( she lifts up her leg to show me)

Me; ( with a smirk) yea cuz you're a total fat ass right now

Her; ( flashes me the biggest smile ) haha

Me; I hate dieting, how do you do it

Her; i know it sucks

Me; i have friends that always want to go get beer

Her; yea i had to work the other week when there was this beer festival that i had to miss because i was so tired.


We chat for a little while more, when she tells me if its cool if we chat while she does her work out.

She tells me she went to this small highschool out in the middle of no where California.

I lightly poke at it while assuming that she played volleyball, to which she said she should have but she took colleges classes instead.

So she starts working out while im chatting to her, meanwhile im looking at my phone just half assing the conversation. About a min of this I go

Me; he well ill let you get back to work, it was nice meeting you

Her; yea you to. have a good workout

Her; have a nice day

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~Overall im surprised that it really is true.... the cutier the girl the nicer she usually is.

~The other thing i learned was how to properly bat down beta bait.

Most guys when she lamented to them about how "not toned" her legs were, would have gone along with her narrative. Saying something like :

"oh you look pretty tone to me" or " you look good don't say that"

A response like that drys up the pussy faster than california's water supply.

By me saying (with a smirk on my face) " yea cuz you're a total fat ass right now" I could visibly see it the "ahhh you got me" monument fash across her face as she smiled.

So the lesson is ... call girls on there bullshit. If it is obvious that she is fishing for complements or attention call her on her shit.

Deep down I think they appreciate it and know that this dude is different. From there my theory is that, being different is a huge plus and makes you stand out more in a good way.
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So I've mostly been shooting blanks lately and getting a lot of brush offs. This can mess with your confidence when you're used to success. You just need to move through it but you will feel yourself getting more cautious.

Approached a two set today. It's pretty amazing how a girl simply walking with a sashay can really increase your desire for her as it's unmistakably feminine. It's also become clear that even when you don't feel 100%, you can rely on muscle memory in some ways after you get enough approaches in as it becomes second nature. That upbeat energy doesn't go away.

Opened and screened. I introduced myself and got their names and then told them I'd leave if they didn't want to talk. They said it was fine, which means they were open to hearing my game.

The convo got on the wrong track when my target girl (who I mistakenly did not compliment particularly so she would know what's up), said she grew up on Park. I joked she must have had a lot of money but the joke went on too long and backfired because that's kind of personal. They clammed up a little bit and from there it was over. So the lesson is don't talk about that shit so long, just a slight tease and move on to other topics.

Still though, felt good about the approach. My perfectionist nature causes me to worry a bit but the fact that I'm still stopping two sets and moving forward shows me I haven't lost anything.

Hopefully as the warm weather stabilizes people will get more used to it so it won't be a special event like today was. Then there'll be more hot single girls around.

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(04-02-2015 05:42 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I introduced myself and got their names and then told them I'd leave if they didn't want to talk.

I am sure you know this already.

There is really no scenario I can think of where you ever want to say this line in a pick up.

And yes joking about anything to do with wealth with a girl is pretty much not okay until after you bang them, even then, if they are rich enough it can still be a very touchy subject.

If she is rich the best play is just to get her to buy you stuff and invest in you. Treating her as a normal middle class girl and playing dumb to her wealth can get her interested in you. The same goes for wealthy male friends. Ignore their wealth, focus on the person and they will appreciate and trust you more easily.

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(04-02-2015 06:30 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I am sure you know this already.

There is really no scenario I can think of where you ever want to say this line in a pick up.

I do it to screen for interest. Takes pressure off the girl as well.

I don't want to waste my time on girls that have no interest to start with. It's worked out well for me so far.

Yes, the wealth thing was mistake that I won't be making again.

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Sorry for the terrible sentence structure but I left my laptop in Glasgow and only have my iPad mini. These approaches take place in Budapest. Me and my buddy are visiting here because Europe is awesome like that. I know the forum has been saturated with info on Budapest, but let me just say that if you have the chance, go. The city is super clean and although a lot of tourists do come here (dirty backpackers in large amounts), it doesn't feel super crowded like Rome or London. Talent is great here and the most redeeming quality about the backpacker girls is the variety of them. Anyway...

Go into this museum/cafe near the river since we have some time to kill before a boat tour, there is this cute chick working there. She is literally the only other person in the building and looks kinda bored. We chat casually and I order an expresso,ca few minutes later she brings it over. Btw this museum/cafe has a bunch of old swords and axes and ww2 guns lying around, they're obviously not functional but it was nonetheless cool holding some MP40s and PPSH 45s. I go up and ask her for some napkins, really just an excuse to re-engage her. I ask her how to say napkins in Hungarian, she says she doesn't know. Figure out that she's Russian from Moscow, so we talk about where we're from why we're in Budapest. This girl is a 7.5, probably an 8 all dressed up. Flawless face and those ice blue Russian eyes. She's giving mild IOIs like touching her hair and that prolonged eye contact. Go back after awhile finish my coffee, talk to my buddy about whatever. Decide I'm gonna get her number. Being the solid wingman that my friend is, he asks her where the bathroom is so we're alone. We talk some more about bullshit, then I ask her which is her favorite part of the museum. Tell her to show me, she gets up and I'm able to get some physical contact going to gage her reaction. I nonchalantly put my hand on her lower back walking by her while asking where the statue shit is, she doesn't shy away. Get back to the desk and I go for the number, she replies with "I'll give you my FB". Tell her I don't use Fb and she smiles and shakes her head then, but I felt like she wanted to continue the convo so I kept going. She asks me how old I am, I reply with my go-to. I say 13, she starts laughing. Banter a little and I ask her, she tells me to guess what I think her age is. I say 26, turns out she's 28. She thinks I'm 26 then (I'm 20). Bullshit some more and then I tell her "put your number in my phone and we'll hang out sometime." She does and I sent her a "Hey ____ it's dirtybird. It was nice meeting you today" text about 3-4 hours after meeting, she replies like 30 mins later. Just sent her a "let's grab a drink tomorrow. How does around 9 sounds?" I leave Friday so it's all or nothing Wink

Should have mentioned this earlier but I told her I'm in Budapest for however long I want. This little bit and also info gathered on the forum about Russian girls and what to say/embellish/fail to mention came in super clutch.

Feeling pretty solid after the first interaction. The boat tour was cool, Budapest really is a beautiful and unique city. It looks very Western European but it doesn't feel like you're there at all. Anyway, me and my buddy are rolling back to our apartment after a full day of hungover sightseeing, and we pop into this grocery store. A minute later, two cute chicks walk in and saunter over past us to the bread section. I tell my buddy we should go talk to them, they're cute. The girls split up and mine wanders close to me in the vegetable section. I walk over, tap her on the shoulder and ask if she speaks English. She turns around, smiles and goes ya enthusiastically. Then ask if she speaks Hungarian, which she says no. Talk about how we both can't understand a single thing in the store, laughing and stuff. Ask her whee she's from, she says France. Talk a little and I spit the limited French I know. Her friend comes over and on cue my wingman comes in and we start talking. Typing on this iPad is getting annoying so long story short I ask if they've been to any ruin bars yet. They say no and I follow with "well we're gonna check some out tonight feel free to come." They talk in French for a second since the other girl doesn't speak much english, they say Ya. My chick, who btw is a 7.5 with a great face and nice ass says let me give you my number. I pull out my phone and she punches it in, solid approach but my dumbass didn't save the number and it got deleted! Fuck, but we know where their hostel is so we'll pop into the bar below which is having a big Event and see if we can. Wet up with them. I fucked up but its all good.

Sorry for the terrible grammar and sentence structure of this post, this iPad is great for many things but not RVF forum writing haha.

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I opened a girl at the taco truck and it turned out she was hard of hearing. That's a new one for me.

I opened another girl waiting at the light, riding my bike up the street. She smiled and giggled but I didn't feel like turning my bike around to go back to her.

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Alright I had probably two of the best approaches ive had in a while this week;

[/b]Approach 1

Im at the gym and i finish my workout. As im walking back toward the locker room i spot this cute brunette latina ( about a 7) with a nice body. She is working out on some machine.

I go into the locker room change then walk out. As im making my way towards the exit i see her walk toward the stair machaines. I follow

She gets on one of the stair machaines and i hop on the one next to her and tap her on arm;

Me; how do you work this thing?

Her: (taking out her earphones) you just push quick start thats what i usually do

Me; i usually never use this thing but i hear its good for your quads

her; I usually just use it for cardio

Me; how was class today

Her; what? i dont go to school i just work hah

Me; oh you look like the type that goes to school

Me; where do you work at

Her; im a bar tender at x up in y city

Me; oh nice how do you like it up there

Her; its alright my boss is kinda a dick

Me; ive been there my job suck right now to

we keep talking about a bunch of random things, the weather, and what not.

She tells me that she forgot to put up her windows on her car ( it rainied the night before)

Were talking like we've known eachother for a while

the whole time even between points of silence she keeps one of her earphones out.

Finally I chicken out and tell her it was nice meeting her and dip

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Approach 2

Today I go to whole foods to grab some food before dinner.

I personally like to go around peak hours( 4:30-6ish) for the talent that comes through

I grab my yogurts and head to the hot food section, where I spot this tall blonde ( 7)with yoga pants showing off her plump round ass and long legs.

Im focused on getting food because a line is starting to form around the hot food section so i lose her in the fray.

I get everything i need and start to head out towards the check out line but i stall by going to the supplement section looking up and down every isle till I get there. She is not there.

I get to the supplement section and start to look at supplements when lo- and behold the blonde walks down the isle and over to where i am standing.

She grabs a packet from the shelf and starts to leave when I open her;

Me; excuse me is that supplement good

Her; yea I like it, I take it as a postworkout

Me; ok yea im looking for something like that that doesn't make me itch

Her; yea i dont like that either, I take this as a pre-workout( she walks over down the isle to show me another supplement)

Me; i didn't know this company made pre-workouts

Her; they are really good i take them all the time since i ice skate

Me; how long have you been doing that

Her; 24 years

Me; so your around 24-25 ish

Her; yea haha

Me; so you skate over at x arena

Her; yea, im a teacher there

Me; thats crazy my aunt used to skate over there back in the day

Her; really?

Me; tell me that your not x ( a main character of a famous ice show)

Her; no haha im not Im the ice queen though

Me; nooo you got my hopes up, is x ( a guy or a girl)

Her; he can be both but in real life he is a guy

Me ; oh you got my hopes up I though I was meeting a celebrity

Her; hahaha

Her; whats your name

Me; Sketness

Her; Sketness wow thats a cool name

Me; im headed towards check out ( as i wave for her to follow me)

We talk some more. She ask me where im from and we go back and forth before there is a break in the conversation as im deciding what line to get into

Me; ill hop in behind you ( to her)

Me; do you know the yx (family that owns the ice rink)

Her; yea

Me; my grandpa used to teach their kids back in the day

Her; oh whats your grandpa's name

Me; xxx

Her; wow

Now this is where i fuck up

She is infront of me and pays for her stuff then says

Her; it was nice meeting you

Me; yea you to
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I chickened out once again. I felt the pressure of the cashier and the people behind me to tell her to wait for me.

I honestly cant even type this because im so angry at myself that I could fuck up so badly when I could have easily just told her before she walked off that i had a question to ask her.

Looking back she gave me so many signs that she was open to chatting further.

Hopefully ill see her again, i doubt it.

IM FUCKING RETARDED

anyway you win some you learn some.

I have a feeling that my third approach this week will be better than the two i fucked up.
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(04-08-2015 08:18 PM)Sketness Wrote:  Alright I had probably two of the best approaches ive had in a while this week;

[/b]Approach 1

Im at the gym and i finish my workout. As im walking back toward the locker room i spot this cute brunette latina ( about a 7) with a nice body. She is working out on some machine.

I go into the locker room change then walk out. As im making my way towards the exit i see her walk toward the stair machaines. I follow

She gets on one of the stair machaines and i hop on the one next to her and tap her on arm;

Me; how do you work this thing?

Her: (taking out her earphones) you just push quick start thats what i usually do

Me; i usually never use this thing but i hear its good for your quads

her; I usually just use it for cardio

Me; how was class today

Her; what? i dont go to school i just work hah

Me; oh you look like the type that goes to school

Me; where do you work at

Her; im a bar tender at x up in y city

Me; oh nice how do you like it up there

Her; its alright my boss is kinda a dick

Me; ive been there my job suck right now to

we keep talking about a bunch of random things, the weather, and what not.

She tells me that she forgot to put up her windows on her car ( it rainied the night before)

Were talking like we've known eachother for a while

the whole time even between points of silence she keeps one of her earphones out.

Finally I chicken out and tell her it was nice meeting her and dip

-------------------------

Approach 2

Today I go to whole foods to grab some food before dinner.

I personally like to go around peak hours( 4:30-6ish) for the talent that comes through

I grab my yogurts and head to the hot food section, where I spot this tall blonde ( 7)with yoga pants showing off her plump round ass and long legs.

Im focused on getting food because a line is starting to form around the hot food section so i lose her in the fray.

I get everything i need and start to head out towards the check out line but i stall by going to the supplement section looking up and down every isle till I get there. She is not there.

I get to the supplement section and start to look at supplements when lo- and behold the blonde walks down the isle and over to where i am standing.

She grabs a packet from the shelf and starts to leave when I open her;

Me; excuse me is that supplement good

Her; yea I like it, I take it as a postworkout

Me; ok yea im looking for something like that that doesn't make me itch

Her; yea i dont like that either, I take this as a pre-workout( she walks over down the isle to show me another supplement)

Me; i didn't know this company made pre-workouts

Her; they are really good i take them all the time since i ice skate

Me; how long have you been doing that

Her; 24 years

Me; so your around 24-25 ish

Her; yea haha

Me; so you skate over at x arena

Her; yea, im a teacher there

Me; thats crazy my aunt used to skate over there back in the day

Her; really?

Me; tell me that your not x ( a main character of a famous ice show)

Her; no haha im not Im the ice queen though

Me; nooo you got my hopes up, is x ( a guy or a girl)

Her; he can be both but in real life he is a guy

Me ; oh you got my hopes up I though I was meeting a celebrity

Her; hahaha

Her; whats your name

Me; Sketness

Her; Sketness wow thats a cool name

Me; im headed towards check out ( as i wave for her to follow me)

We talk some more. She ask me where im from and we go back and forth before there is a break in the conversation as im deciding what line to get into

Me; ill hop in behind you ( to her)

Me; do you know the yx (family that owns the ice rink)

Her; yea

Me; my grandpa used to teach their kids back in the day

Her; oh whats your grandpa's name

Me; xxx

Her; wow

Now this is where i fuck up

She is infront of me and pays for her stuff then says

Her; it was nice meeting you

Me; yea you to
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I chickened out once again. I felt the pressure of the cashier and the people behind me to tell her to wait for me.

I honestly cant even type this because im so angry at myself that I could fuck up so badly when I could have easily just told her before she walked off that i had a question to ask her.

Looking back she gave me so many signs that she was open to chatting further.

Hopefully ill see her again, i doubt it.

IM FUCKING RETARDED

anyway you win some you learn some.

I have a feeling that my third approach this week will be better than the two i fucked up.

Sketness, I had the exact same thing happen last year. A hot girl in line at Starbucks....she was ahead of me.

I SHOULD have exercised my masculine frame and said "Hey, hold on just a sec while I pay....I wanted to ask you something " but I just said "nice to meet you" too. It sucks.

It's game though...make mistakes so that next time...you don't make the same one.

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Now, that spring has arrived, I will start approaching aggressively.

I want a young, cute, little hard-bodied girl for the summer time.

I saw a girl at the bus stop.. A young, thin, asian, with a pretty face and a nice body..

I pull my car up to the bus stop and roll down my window..

me: hey want a ride up the hill?
her: umm, no thanks
me: I just offer because I used to take the bus, I know how it is
her: thats nice but I'm cool
me: ok


Next!

---

I was at the gas station getting gas.. A hot, young, thin, asian with a nice plump round ass pulls in next to me.. I thought about how I could approach her..

After a minute of thinking, I just say "fuck it" and walk over to her car..

me: hi how are you?
her: pretty good
me: you look nice today
her: oh thank you
me: my name is gio
her: im heather
me: can i call you sometime and maybe take you about for a drink?
her: sorry, I have a bf


Next!

*****

I am very rusty because I've been in hibernation.

But, I feel really, really good!

All the confidence and experience that I've built up over the last few years is still there.

I am bolder and more aggressive than ever!

Having confidence feels awesome! Being bold feels awesome! I am proud of myself for not "pussing out" on these two approaches.

I am very excited for 2015!

I might go to a university today to approach 10 college girls.

Let the games begin!
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Gio, thinking about moving to SF in the future. Sounds like you come across a lot of hot women. I'm definitely into the asian chicks haha. The car approach had to be one of the boldest ones. Girls usually see it as you trying to pick them up like a prostitute. Very motivational. I'll try to keep it in my head when doing approaches of my own.

Confidence and experience comes from trial and error. If you don't try you don't have any way of knowing what you need to work on. Awesome summary G.
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Did my first ever cold approach in a nightclub. That was hard, heart bounced a lot and almost chickened out, but I managed to spit the Rooshs surefire opener.
After a minute in conversation I started to calm down and I could focus better. Chatted maybe about 5-10 min, but then came silent moment and I chickened out and said have a good night...

Well it didn't go well, but I exceeded myself by doing that approach, because I'm really shy to talk to unknown people.
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I went to a large university.

I saw an athletic looking light-skinned black girl, thin but with a fat ass...

me: are you a volleyball player?
her: oh, no
me: what do you play?
her: i dont play sports
me: you look like an athlete
her: ya i get that a lot
me: what do you do?
her: im a dancer
me: oh ya i can see it now
her: haha
me: what kind of dance?
her: all kinds
me: im a good dancer after two glasses of wine
her: lol


She told me she lives about a half hour away.

I ejected myself because I like to only date girls who live within 10 minutes of my house.

Next!

---

I saw a beautiful white girl in yoga pants and little workout tank top, firm toned body and a pretty face..

me: how was your workout?
her: really good
me: do you go to the new gym over by the mall
her: no i was at the all girls gym near broadway
me: oh good for you, you are in great shape
her: thank you
me: whats your name?
her: christiana
me: im gio
her: nice to meet you
me: ya likewise, should we go out for a drink soemtime?
her: oh im getting married next month
me: you are gonna look great for your wedding
her: lol thanks


Next!

---

I saw a hot little blond white girl in tight pants and little tank top, amazing body with a round butt, tight waistline and firm round tits..

me: cool pants
her: thank you
me: very futuristic
her: haha
me: are you a science major?
her: no i have biology right now
me: oh ok have fun
her: thanks
me: hey one more thing
her: ya
me: whats your name?
her: kelly
me: can i call you later and take you out for a drink
her: sorry


Next!

---

I saw another hot white girl in patterned yoga pants, long hair, nice body..

me: cool pants
her: thanks
me: i love the space age pattern
her: lol
me: did you just have yoga class?
her: oh no i just wear these cause there comfortable
me: they look comfy, my name is gio
her: hey im heather
me: are you from around here?
her: no, im from la
me: oh cool, you like it up here?


Yadda, yadda, yadda..

I forget what happened but I didn't get her number.

Next!

---

I saw a cute white girl with a pretty face, clean milky skin, nice long hair and a toned body..

me: nice jacket
her: thank you
me: i used to have one with a similar pattern
her: oh ya
me: its like central american or thai or something
her: haha ya something like that
me: you have class right now?
her: yup


She stopped and we chatted for a few minutes. She was very friendly.

me: wanna talk again sometime?
her: im really flattered but i have a boyfriend


Next!

---

I saw a pretty girl sitting on a bench, hawaiian looking, long dark hair, cinnamon skin, wearing a sexy dress..

me: nice day to be sitting out here
her: yes it is
me: the sun feels nice
her: i love it
me: are you from hawaii
her: my family is but i was born here
me: what high school
her: valley
me: oh i went to west valley
her: oh really
me: ya i grew up there


We are from the same neighborhood. We talked for about 5 minutes.

me: lets go out for coffee sometime
her: if I see you around school


Next!

---

I saw a beautiful white girl in yoga pants with an amazing ass..


me: are you a pole vaulter
her: huh?
me: you look like a pole vaulter
her: oh thank you, i usually get volleyball
me: ya that would have been my second guess
her: i dont even play sports
me: good for you, what do you study?
her: psychology
me: fascinating
her: ya it is
me: are you from the bay area?
her: well, im from up north
me: oh i have a lot friends up there, i love that restaurant "haros"
her: ya that place is great
me: how are you liking san francisco
her: i love it


We talked for a few minutes.

Boyfriend.

Next!

*****

I feel great.

My confidence is at an all time high!

It's only a matter of time until I pull a cute, little college girl!

I'm going to a another university today!
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What makes you stop after the boyfriend drop?
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@Gio - respect.
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inspired by Gio's post I decided to visit my local community college to see what I could catch.

There wernt many people out on a friday so I head to the library with my book bag. I had some work reading to do so it worked out.

I get in the library sit down and work for a hour. I get up to use the bathroom and I see this cute latina (6) working at a computer.

I move closer to her and open her;

Me; do you know what time the library closes?

Her; 2pm i think

Me; oh cuz blab bla bla ( i ramble for a while)

I ask her some questions, it turns out she is a soccer player who is from way up north.

I was wearing a Organ State shirt and she asked me if i went there.

Was going to chat with her more but she signed to me that she wanted to get back to studying.

no worries ....next

--------------------------

The book im reading is talking about how to cold call in sales. Its crazy how similar some of the tactics in sales are to game.

I exit the library and decide to read outside.

Looking around I see a bunch of tables with a girl seated with her art supplies spread out.

I cant make out if she is cute or not so I just take the table next to her and start reading my book.

About 10 mins passes when a guy on the other side of the campus starts to loudly sing.

2mins in to him singing i turn to her ( she is dirty blonde about a 6) and open;

Me; does it always get so lively around here on a friday?

Her; haha i know he is really loud. I think he may have his earbuds in and can't hear himself

Me; yea i bet, what are you working on

Her; this art project for my class

Me; how do you like that class

She begins to basically pour out her feelings about the class to me, telling me how her teacher dosent like her bla bla bla

I just keep engaging her by asking her questions about how certain things make her feel and what not.

We talk for a while (15 mins) about random things music stuff like that, she is pretty engaging. Then some dude walks up to her and they talk for a brief monument

I go back to my book, when she re-engages me and we talk some more.

I find out that her friend is coming to pick her up. So i decide to dip a little eairly and grab her number while she is alone.

I hand her my phone and she puts her number in and i dip.

Now fast foward a couple of hours i decide to text the number and my phone says that the number is a landline and does not receive text

I could call the number but I don't think its worth it... ill just take the L

oh well .....NEXT!
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(04-10-2015 12:50 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I went to a large university.

I saw an athletic looking light-skinned black girl, thin but with a fat ass...

me: are you a volleyball player?
her: oh, no
me: what do you play?
her: i dont play sports
me: you look like an athlete
her: ya i get that a lot
me: what do you do?
her: im a dancer
me: oh ya i can see it now
her: haha
me: what kind of dance?
her: all kinds
me: im a good dancer after two glasses of wine
her: lol


She told me she lives about a half hour away.

I ejected myself because I like to only date girls who live within 10 minutes of my house.

Next!

---

I saw a beautiful white girl in yoga pants and little workout tank top, firm toned body and a pretty face..

me: how was your workout?
her: really good
me: do you go to the new gym over by the mall
her: no i was at the all girls gym near broadway
me: oh good for you, you are in great shape
her: thank you
me: whats your name?
her: christiana
me: im gio
her: nice to meet you
me: ya likewise, should we go out for a drink soemtime?
her: oh im getting married next month
me: you are gonna look great for your wedding
her: lol thanks


Next!

---

I saw a hot little blond white girl in tight pants and little tank top, amazing body with a round butt, tight waistline and firm round tits..

me: cool pants
her: thank you
me: very futuristic
her: haha
me: are you a science major?
her: no i have biology right now
me: oh ok have fun
her: thanks
me: hey one more thing
her: ya
me: whats your name?
her: kelly
me: can i call you later and take you out for a drink
her: sorry


Next!

---

I saw another hot white girl in patterned yoga pants, long hair, nice body..

me: cool pants
her: thanks
me: i love the space age pattern
her: lol
me: did you just have yoga class?
her: oh no i just wear these cause there comfortable
me: they look comfy, my name is gio
her: hey im heather
me: are you from around here?
her: no, im from la
me: oh cool, you like it up here?


Yadda, yadda, yadda..

I forget what happened but I didn't get her number.

Next!

---

I saw a cute white girl with a pretty face, clean milky skin, nice long hair and a toned body..

me: nice jacket
her: thank you
me: i used to have one with a similar pattern
her: oh ya
me: its like central american or thai or something
her: haha ya something like that
me: you have class right now?
her: yup


She stopped and we chatted for a few minutes. She was very friendly.

me: wanna talk again sometime?
her: im really flattered but i have a boyfriend


Next!

---

I saw a pretty girl sitting on a bench, hawaiian looking, long dark hair, cinnamon skin, wearing a sexy dress..

me: nice day to be sitting out here
her: yes it is
me: the sun feels nice
her: i love it
me: are you from hawaii
her: my family is but i was born here
me: what high school
her: valley
me: oh i went to west valley
her: oh really
me: ya i grew up there


We are from the same neighborhood. We talked for about 5 minutes.

me: lets go out for coffee sometime
her: if I see you around school


Next!

---

I saw a beautiful white girl in yoga pants with an amazing ass..


me: are you a pole vaulter
her: huh?
me: you look like a pole vaulter
her: oh thank you, i usually get volleyball
me: ya that would have been my second guess
her: i dont even play sports
me: good for you, what do you study?
her: psychology
me: fascinating
her: ya it is
me: are you from the bay area?
her: well, im from up north
me: oh i have a lot friends up there, i love that restaurant "haros"
her: ya that place is great
me: how are you liking san francisco
her: i love it


We talked for a few minutes.

Boyfriend.

Next!

*****

I feel great.

My confidence is at an all time high!

It's only a matter of time until I pull a cute, little college girl!

I'm going to a another university today!

Gio, inspiring write ups.

What "role" are you playing as an older guy in your 30s on a college campus? Do these girls ever call you on your age?

Are you just pretending you're a grad student and carrying around a book bag or something?

What's your line if they say something about looking like an older guy on a college campus?

Also, what is your "optimum" way to dress when you game a college campus? I assume it's not like your average 22 year old college kid...

One planet orbiting a star. Billions of stars in the galaxy. Billions of galaxies in the universe. Approach.
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I went to a smaller university..

I saw a hot little latina/asian mixed girl with cinnamon skin and a toned body..

me: what is that on your arm? A diamond light-saber?
her: lol no its just a design i made
me: i thought it was a sword or something
her: no its just something from art class
me: what are you up to today?
her: oh just walking around waiting for my friend
her: you seem like a philosophy major
her: oh wow i'll take that as a compliment
me: yes of course.. whats your major?
her: its was philosophy but i switched to design
me: oh cool
her: there is my friend, i better run


Next!

---

I saw a tall, beautiful white girl with long dirty blond hair..

me: are you a volleyball player?
her: oh no, do i look like one?
me: yes you do, what do you play?
her: i actually dont play anything
me: you must do pilates or something?
her: im a dancer
me: oh yes that make sense

me: my name is gio
her: im amanda
me: you look very healthy
her: thank you
me: can i call you soemtime, maybe take you out for a drink?
her: sorry im with someone


Next!

--

I saw a gorgeous half white/half asian girl displaying her beautiful breasts, slim waist and plump, round butt..

me: I like your sandals
her: huh?
me: those sandals are hot
her: oh thanks
me: do you live in the dorms right here?
her: ya
me: i used to live here like 5 years ago
her: really
me: ya but i dont miss it, i mean the first year is cool but after that its nice to get some privacy
her: ya exactly
me: how are your roommates?
her: they're ok, its pretty random
me: whats your name
her: kaitlin
me: im gio


She turned and stepped towards me. We stopped walking.

me: where are you from?
her: san diego
me: are you cold up here?
her: a little
me: we should talk again sometime
her: ok


I got her number but I think I may have made a mistake. I think this girl may have been down for an insta-date or even insta-makeout / insta-bang!

After I got her number and said goodbye, she seemed disappointed.

I didn't realize until later that maybe she wanted me to lead her all the way to her bedroom..? I sort of got that vibe from her. She was looking at me right in my eyes and it all seemed sort of seductive.

I texted her a few minutes later but she didn't respond.

I feel that I probably should have pushed things further. Maybe, invited myself up to her room.. Next time, I will.

---

I saw a cute black girl with a great body.. I approached her last year..

me: hey how you been?
her: good you?
me: good whatcha doing out here?
her: getting my taxes done
me: oh good for you get a refund
her: heck ya
me: how is your bf?
her: oh we broke up
me: oh well gotta keep it moving?
her: haha ya


Blah, blah, blah.. We talked for a minute..

her: do you still have my number?
me: no text me
her: whats yours?
me: 415-123-4567


We are texting now.

I'm trying to get her to come over tonight!

---

I see another black girl, real cute, zoe saldana type, younger looking, hot little body..

me: excuse me, have we met before?
her: no i dont think so
me: we didn't talk in yoga class
her: no
me: maybe ive just seen you around
her: maybe
me: im gio
her: hi im kim
me: are you brazilian
her: lol no
me: i used to live there, you look like them
her: really
me: ya where are you from?
her: oakland
me: can i ask u a personal question
her: umm ya
me: do u date white guys?
her: haha why?
me: lets hang out sometime
her: haha your funny
me: im just asking, its ok if u dont
her: you can take my number
me: text me
her: ok


Texted her 15 minutes later, no response.

***

I'm not going to analyze my game.. I'm just going to continue to have fun and let nature takes its course. For me, "game" is more fun when I am in a "state of play".



**Edit** -- The girl I should have insta-dated, tried to insta-bang;

("a gorgeous half white/half asian girl displaying her beautiful breasts, slim waist and plump, round butt"):

She just texted me. I'll try to take her to the beach today or get her over to my condo tonight.

I'm very happy with my first 15-20 approaches.
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Just awesome approach summary. Thing is you keep it moving until something hooks. Its good that one circumstance never throws you off. Have fun at the beach Big Grin .
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Shit Gio, this motivates me to get on daygame on a whole new level... just got blown out a couple times at a house party on campus.

Not going to overanalyze, but it can be chalked up to two things: no room or ability to isolate AND presence of better looking guys.

Upon further reflection, it was much like a Southern country club; mostly tall white dudes in salmon shorts and rolled up button downs, mostly blondes wearing short dresses. No place for an Asian dude to be, even though I've been working on game for several months now.

Not gonna get jaded or rant here; the only non toxic approach is to stay relentlessly positive and continue self improvement. My style game was top, but probably miscalibrated or incongruent with the situation. Was wearing a gray blazer, pink stripe button down shirt, jeans and desert boots. Situation called for something more preppy.

Aesthetics game also needs work. I have dark bags under my eyes from chronic lack of sleep; gotta kill those off with more water, less salt, less alcohol, more sleep. Other suggestions welcome. I also need to slim my face down; it's really round and gives me something of a baby face. My cheeks hold a lot of fat, which is actually starting to give me parentheses and I'm not even 21. That and looking at the facial transformation thread on bodybuilding.com has gotten me out to the gym more than anything else.

I need to work on building attraction faster and right off the bat; openers are fine but it's that crucial minute after that really matters most. Each time I'd hit them with the opener, they'd get interested, but I'd try to prompt them to lead the conversation and get interested, but a friend would always conveniently come by and swoop them away around the two minute mark.

Finally, I need to play to my comparative advantage better; that's daygame, because right now I lack the needed aesthetics to compete in a crowded and impossible to hear party environment, and I'm Asian. Those conditions require me to engage first; no sweeping game for me just yet, even though I saw a football player size dude going for the insta-make out with a slim blonde within 5 minutes. Oh, and I need to learn how to fucking dance. Like yesterday.

Overall I'm feeling positive. There was a hot Latina chick there that I vibed with decently well, even spun around on the dance floor for compliance test, had good kino, but she was taken by her Asian-American friend. Shit, I swear our women have something special out for us. Oh well. Next!

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robreke - Gio's mentioned this before. I believe he works doing school athletics, so he has a reason to be on campus, but really, it doesn't matter. You're there to do research at the library. You're looking into an MBA (lots of returning students in that). You were supposed to meet a friend but she canceled. You're on campus interviewing candidates for a job. If you're worried about that, spend a couple minutes thinking of a story you can pop off if needed, even better if you can show some value, like implying you own a business or just are a guy on his way up in the world. Or you could treat it like a shit test.

(04-11-2015 03:50 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I saw a cute black girl with a great body.. I approached her last year..

[i]me: hey how you been?
her: good you?
me: good whatcha doing out here?
her: getting my taxes done
me: oh good for you get a refund
her: heck ya
me: how is your bf?
her: oh we broke up

I love this. I know you've talked about the fragmented approach, but a year is a hell of a fragment.

Look at this, Gio got rejected last year by this girl, sees her again, re-opens, what do you know?

You're inspiring.
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RE: The Approach Thread
Drought's over.

I'm outside reading a decent book on business and I see a sexy raveness sashaying around. Great hips and ass. No hesitation, I know plainly well that when a girl is walking around like that she wants to get picked up by somebody cool.

I did my usual opening routine and she opens up immediately. In that regard it was probably unnecessary to use my screener but I used it anyway. Nothing fancy, just a chat for a few minutes as she needed to do something later. I dominate the scene. To my surprise she's from the UK but ethnically Indian - she does not look like that at all, I was assuming she was from some South American country, which she says she gets a lot.

The thought now recurs in the back of my mind that I recently said that Indian girls are the Super Saiyans of SJW's, and since she actually works at a college campus this increases my suspicions further, but hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised.

And of course no armpit hair (bit of a shoutout to Forney there).

We'll see how it goes, the signs do look good because she just came back here after a long absence a few weeks ago, but still has an international calling code, and is not showing up on WhatsApp. Might have to Facebook this first... *sigh.*

But the biggest thing is that my drought of bad approaches is over. It's important for that reason. One of the biggest danger zones is when you have a string of success and then start to fail multiple times in a row. It requires some mental fortitude to get through, just as I was reading in that book earlier. Game and business are based on the same premises. And my "bad streak" lasted less than 10 approaches (not much could have been done in the February/March weather up to now), which shows something of a truism to a post I was reading by a guy named Nathan Hagens the other day, outlining the phenomenon that when things go bad, we tend to think they're worse than they really are, and vice versa.

For those of you that might tend to overanalyze like me, keep this in mind.

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RE: The Approach Thread
How do you guys remember all these exchanges?

Saw a young girl at the mall kinda standing around yesterday, asked her for X store.

Her: no idea. Looking for the pet store myself.

Me: think I know where it is, come.

Start talking about how I have a cat but want a dog (compare families dogs to cats in general)

She talks about riding horses and stuff

I say "you've got one of those cowgirls outfits?" ---not serious

She laughs cause she does. Shows me some on her phone some pictures of her in competitions (with denim outfits looks like that girl from the Sundance kid) the whole time I'm sorta paying attention sorta petting those 1000 rabbits they keep in a 4x4 cage.

Say "gotta get going. Wanna help me find X?"

Her: still want to look at the fish

Me: talk to you later then, what's your number?

Gives me her number. Texted her immediately (while she was right there) "CarbonEraser" and she replied "hey!!" A minute after I left.

That was my only success that day. I'm 6 feet tall white blue eyes in Brampton Ontario (99% Indian). My only problem is acne so I don't have too much trouble with the rare white girls here.

Most of my other interactions were just a couple words before I puss out or run out of things to say. Things go smoother with weird personality girls lol
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