Post: #1076

(12-01-2013 01:37 AM)Lights Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 06:33 PM)horn Wrote:  Lights, underage girls flake all the time. Focus on building comfort if you want them to come around. It can take more than one meetup at a train station.

I hear ya.

Yeah, just text as little as possible - pure logistics. That can also foul things up. Also assume anything you send her gets shown to all of her friends...maybe they even look without her knowing -- roommates and stuff.

Some college girls will bang you within 20 minutes. Some want to meet up for drinks 3-4x before going home with you -- the 'good girls' as we might say. If you want a good girl, you gotta put in the hours. She might even tell you she's going to sleep with you, 'but not yet.' Etc. {I don't mean LMR, I mean at the bar.}

I've always been a fan of Mystery's/whomever '7 hour rule.' If the girl is getting warmer and warmer towards me throughout the dates, physicality progressing, deep kissing, fondling, etc, you know she's going to want to bang soon. Just keep doing what you do, she's not meeting up with you because she's bored.

Maybe she has a 3-date rule? Who the hell knows. But if she's hot, single, and keeps spending her free time with you, it's because she likes you, not because she can't find someone on a college campus to give her a drink.

Post: #1077

(11-24-2013 12:03 AM)ashraf Wrote:  How about two girls walking together (very common)?

I don't know?

I need to get better at that one..

I usually just make eye contact and smile at the one I like and if she smiles back I say hi.

(11-26-2013 02:58 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  a tap on the shoulder

Generally speaking, The Shoulder Tap is an advanced move that beginners should avoid using. Unless, they are feeling really ballsy and want to accelerate their learning experience.

There are many factors that go into an effective shoulder tap. Only tap if its impossible to open from the front. Tapping from the front or the side is better than behind her, a verbal command can accompany the physical tap --"excuse me", own the fuck out of it, soft smile, soft voice tone, soft eye contact, have your statement/question ready.

(Or, just go macho man style and tap her while saying "hey" smile/smirk "who are you?")

The bigger your balls, the better your tapping will go.

(11-27-2013 11:14 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I stalk her for about 5 minutes as she walks around,

It's not stalking, it's "positioning".

"Stalking" implies foul intention.

Our intention is just flirtation.

(11-27-2013 11:14 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Me: What's your favorite car?

That was easy.

My favorite approaches are the simplest ones.

Post: #1078

Just got back from the malls.

Went 2 for 3 on the numbers.


20 year old girl from Hawaii that turns 21 in 9 days. She was working at the hickory farms kiosk. She was kind of dark skinned but really cute and innocent.

29 year old working another kiosk where they were selling those muscle massage zapper things. She was a 6 but I would still hit it.


21 year old working at Pac Sun. Everything was going really good with her until I went for the number and she told me she was married. I was too busy looking at her ring to bust out "Yea so is my wife" and afterwards I was kicking myself because she seemed really interested even though she was married.

Sometimes once I hear they are married I give up too quickly. Shit test failed.

Yes I know I didn't approach any girls that weren't working at the mall. Still having a hard time doing that.

Post: #1079

I was at the laundromat today washing some clothes.

Feel like shit like my nerves are frayed electrical wires. Still feel like that now.

My buddy works at a cell phone store next to the laundromat so I go get money from him so I can buy a pack of cigarettes at the store on the corner so I can get a cigarette from the pack.

While I'm in the cell phone store a girl comes in and asks if I'm next.

I take my time and look her over, then smile, looking at her and nod my head. Typical response from me.

She goes, "OK i'm going to smoke this cigarette in the meantime then."

I go to the store, get the pack, come back and smoke. She's talking to some lady in a van and apparently it's some good story but I do not know what they are saying so the girl looks at me like "Do you believe that?"

But I just stare blankly because I do not know.

Go into the laundromat again.

5 mins until my clothes are done washing.

This girl comes back into the laundromat frazzled and asks me if she can use my phone.

I look at her harder to see if she is going to run off with my phone or something. She is like distressed.

I give her my phone and she tries calling and at the same time is trying to explain to me what happened. Her phone is shut off and etc etc. She needs to call her aunt.

I tell her let me just get my clothes in the dryer and I'll take her back to the cell phone store to see if we can set her up because I know the guy there he is my friend.

She gets in touch with her aunt and follows me around as I'm doing laundry stuff.

She is a petite Puerto Rican 6.5 w/ no makeup 7.0 w/ makeup I saw pictures. C cup.

She goes to the bathroom in the laundromat and we go back to the cell phone store together. At this point I am probing for logistics. Does she have kids. Yes "just one." Where does she live. "Right there." She goes to school for medical assisting near my place.

We're playing with our phones, she notices one of the phones, a Galaxy S4 is missing from the display. She says somebody probably took it. I said "Yeah, I did, but don't say anything."

She asked about writing things on the screen so I showed her how to do it on my phone. I asked her her name and she said Jenny. So I wrote "jenny from the block" on my phone. She liked that.

She says literally "I should just put my number in your phone. We're friends now."

I give her my phone and she asks how many Jennys I have on there so I told her to put herself in as Jenny5.

Felt good about that.

When we were done I asked if she wanted a ride.

She was down.

In the car I was like "Grab something to eat with me real fast."

We went to Dunkin Donuts because I was literally wear and shaking from hunger (long weekend). Got the bagel. Asked if she wanted anything. No. OK.

Back to the car. Got some nice music going but nothing really sexual going on. She's saying something about her ex husband/ baby daddy.

I say "You don't have a boyfriend now though, right" and I move in and kiss her, move my head back and then kiss her again. Caught her by surprise I think.

At first she moved her head away, then moved it back. She had nice lips and some gloss on.

She said "I didn't think you would do that." "You're crazy."

I chuckled and threw the bagel in the back seat.

Went to some store to get cigarettes then to her projects. Before she left I pulled her back and told her to give me a kiss. She did.

This all happened within one hour. She goes to school by my place I told her we could meet up after school.

Is she ratchet? Yes. Yes she has a kid and lives with her Puerto Rican family in a project. Don't care.

See how this goes. I'll keep what horn said in mind. She seemed like she was holding back sexually. She would not get too too close to me or really let me touch her, so I didn't. But she seemed very interested.

I felt like a lion ready at any point to devour her. Fact is I did not approach her she pretty much approached but it feels the same to me.

Post: #1080

Wanted to share one of my recent approaches. Before I do, just wanted to say how important it is before you leave the house each day to see your entire daily routine as one continuous opportunity to meet girls. I used to focus on meeting girls online because I wasn't meeting girls in my normal routine at work, etc. But once I shifted my thinking, I started to see opportunities around me every day that I didn't see before.

Some of you might be familiar with David Wygant. He's not really a PUA in the strict definition of the term, but he has good things to say about being present in each moment of the day. He talks about being social to the barista who gives you your latte. The bank teller who gives you your cash, etc. You get the point. The purpose of being social at all times is that it starts to strengthen your ability to talk to random people and build rapport with complete strangers. I can tell that from experience that doing this on a daily basis has helped me immensely when I direct my energy towards a girl I'm interested in. Moving on.

So today I walked into Starbucks and get behind a middle-aged but attractive woman, wearing a bright blue ski jacket. I comment on how nice her coat looks and the next thing I know, we're talking in line for 5 minutes, waiting for our turn to order our drinks. As we were talking, two other people were listening to our conversation and they started talking to this woman because something we discussed resonated with them. I get my drink and bid her adieu. I'm feeling very good about myself at the moment and I spot an empty chair next to a very attractive "red head" (died red) and ask if anyone is sitting there. She says no, so I sit down and drink my coffee and just chill for a minute. Out of the corner of my eye, I notice that she has an incredible body: very nice legs wrapped tightly into a red mini-skirt and a tight sweater, with at least a set of D's being pinned back against her chest.

I start thinking to myself what my opener would be and settle on something about it being really cold in the store.

Me: "is it me or do they have the AC on in this place?"

Her: "oh, it's probably because the cold air keeps coming in from people entering and leaving."

Me: "so what are you up to? just killing time?"

Her: "yeah, I'm on my lunch break."

She then proceeds to talk for the next 2-3 minutes without me having to do any work at all but just piece together information from what she's saying and formulate other conversation angles to choose from, based upon what she is talking about. At one point, she's talking and I can tell she's really just enjoying the fact that someone bothered to talk to her. She talks about how she's from California and is living in CT now, and how most of her friends she knew from her grad program left and how her ex and her broke up. I can see that she's probably really lonely being here, without much of a social network and how demanding her job is, which is killing her social life.

Anyways, we talk for about 10 minutes and I say that I have to go but that we should exchange numbers and hang out sometime. She reads out her number and I dial, with her acknowledging that she now has my number in her phone. An hour later I text her saying that is was really cool meeting her and that we should do drinks sometime. She then responds back: "ditto. Call/text whenever "

I want to say that for as many times you might get blown out by a girl, get told that the girl you approached has a boyfriend, there is a girl out there who is single and willing to meet a guy who has the balls to talk with her.

Post: #1081

Best Approach I Ever Saw

I was visiting my gf nurse at the hospital. Old geezer (over 80) comes in a wheelchair with 2 of his adult aged kids. He had a stroke years ago, could not really talk, and was suffering from flu like symptoms. So they take him in and starting getting an iv on him.

The nurse was hovering around him making sure he was comfortable. While she was leaning over to check some equipment he grabs both of her breasts and fondles them--in the middle of an ER, with the doctor present, and with his kids watching. He does this for 2-3 seconds, nurse is shocked--she just freezes, his kids are stunned, and the old guy has a big smile on his face!

You could tell this guy was a player when he was younger. He also knew that no one was going to charge an old man in a wheelchair with sexual harassment-SO WHY NOT GO FOR IT!!!!!!! Complete baller move in my opinion.

Best of all---the nurse laughed it off as a demented old man who did not know what he was doing. The smile on his face proved he knew exactly what he was doing

Post: #1082

(12-03-2013 01:46 AM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  Best Approach I Ever Saw

I was visiting my gf nurse at the hospital. Old geezer (over 80) comes in a wheelchair with 2 of his adult aged kids. He had a stroke years ago, could not really talk, and was suffering from flu like symptoms. So they take him in and starting getting an iv on him.

The nurse was hovering around him making sure he was comfortable. While she was leaning over to check some equipment he grabs both of her breasts and fondles them--in the middle of an ER, with the doctor present, and with his kids watching. He does this for 2-3 seconds, nurse is shocked--she just freezes, his kids are stunned, and the old guy has a big smile on his face!

You could tell this guy was a player when he was younger. He also knew that no one was going to charge an old man in a wheelchair with sexual harassment-SO WHY NOT GO FOR IT!!!!!!! Complete baller move in my opinion.

Best of all---the nurse laughed it off as a demented old man who did not know what he was doing. The smile on his face proved he knew exactly what he was doing

Probably, I would NOT call that an approach, unless the move was calculated to cause a positive future result, and in that regard, the move seems as if it could work to his advantage.

Good story, though b/c it certainly gets a guy to think about how the unexpected could play out.

Post: #1083

This one was nothing but a flirtation but it was funny so I'm telling the story...I was going for a walk today and listening to Russian lessons. I live in the exurbs, so it's pretty rural in atmosphere though there are some expensive estates and housing developments around. I usually don't see anybody on my walks but this time there was a well-dressed attractive blonde walking a tiny fufu dog coming the other way. I've noticed her before a few times from my car. I assume she's some rich guy's wife.

We both slow down as I say, "Hey."

So I look at her and say "Cute." I purposely pause extra long so as to make it ambiguous as to whether I'm talking about her or the dog.

Then I look at the dog and say "What kind of breed is that?"

"A Pomeranian."

I say "Ah." and before I can say anything else she jokes,

"She thinks you're cute, too".

"Hahaha," I say laughing. She laughs, and we both keep walking in opposite directions.

Post: #1084

(12-03-2013 06:48 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  I say "Ah." and before I can say anything else she jokes,

"She thinks you're cute, too".

"Hahaha," I say laughing. She laughs, and we both keep walking in opposite directions.

I have a dog, too, and sometimes when I am out walking / running with the dog, I miss certain opportunities when girls are fawning over my dog.

Anyhow, this may have been a great opportunity to say that you would like to set up a date with the dog, since both of you admire each other.

Post: #1085

Hey that's a good one, thanks. I'll remember that for next time...

I'm understanding why you have to do so many approaches. It really is like being Bill Murray's character in the movie "Groundhog Day". (I recall that someone else made that comparison as well, but I don't remember where I read it.)

Post: #1086

(12-03-2013 01:46 AM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  Best Approach I Ever Saw

I was visiting my gf nurse at the hospital. Old geezer (over 80) comes in a wheelchair with 2 of his adult aged kids. He had a stroke years ago, could not really talk, and was suffering from flu like symptoms. So they take him in and starting getting an iv on him.

The nurse was hovering around him making sure he was comfortable. While she was leaning over to check some equipment he grabs both of her breasts and fondles them--in the middle of an ER, with the doctor present, and with his kids watching. He does this for 2-3 seconds, nurse is shocked--she just freezes, his kids are stunned, and the old guy has a big smile on his face!

You could tell this guy was a player when he was younger. He also knew that no one was going to charge an old man in a wheelchair with sexual harassment-SO WHY NOT GO FOR IT!!!!!!! Complete baller move in my opinion.

Best of all---the nurse laughed it off as a demented old man who did not know what he was doing. The smile on his face proved he knew exactly what he was doing

Old Geezers do that all the time , I have seen that happen all the time. Most of the Nurses have had an Incident happen to them and some are looking to get attention even from old geezers ..... Hamsters in full Spin.

Some of us will be doing shit like that in Nursing homes and getting whatever we can get our hands on. I have heard a story from a friend about an 80 yr old grandpa banging a 40 Plus Nurse in a nursing home

Post: #1087

(12-03-2013 09:29 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

(12-03-2013 01:46 AM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  Best Approach I Ever Saw

I was visiting my gf nurse at the hospital. Old geezer (over 80) comes in a wheelchair with 2 of his adult aged kids. He had a stroke years ago, could not really talk, and was suffering from flu like symptoms. So they take him in and starting getting an iv on him.

The nurse was hovering around him making sure he was comfortable. While she was leaning over to check some equipment he grabs both of her breasts and fondles them--in the middle of an ER, with the doctor present, and with his kids watching. He does this for 2-3 seconds, nurse is shocked--she just freezes, his kids are stunned, and the old guy has a big smile on his face!

You could tell this guy was a player when he was younger. He also knew that no one was going to charge an old man in a wheelchair with sexual harassment-SO WHY NOT GO FOR IT!!!!!!! Complete baller move in my opinion.

Best of all---the nurse laughed it off as a demented old man who did not know what he was doing. The smile on his face proved he knew exactly what he was doing

Old Geezers do that all the time , I have seen that happen all the time. Most of the Nurses have had an Incident happen to them and some are looking to get attention even from old geezers ..... Hamsters in full Spin.

Some of us will be doing shit like that in Nursing homes and getting whatever we can get our hands on. I have heard a story from a friend about an 80 yr old grandpa banging a 40 Plus Nurse in a nursing home

You serious, DAMN!

Post: #1088

So I'm in Hawaii on Waikiki beach. I'm thinking about how I never had much luck with girls on the beach probably because of my pallid complexion.

But I spot a cutie laying on her stomach and with a nice tan ass stuffed into a little bikini.

It kind if looks like she looked at me but I don't know. I come back a little while later and she's horsing around with her friends putting a blanket over head and putting her sunglasses on ( like cousin It). They see me looking and laugh. I hear them speaking a foreign language.

Me: Where are you guys from?
Girl1: Russia
Me: I thought she was from Saudi Arabia (point to girl with sheet over head).

They laugh.

There was 3 of them. One was fluent in English , the other two had limited English skills.

We chit chat for awhile. I told them someone was bit by a shark in Hawaii yesterday and they thought I was pulling their leg. True story.

Me: How old are you guys.

Girl1: 23, 26, 24. How old are you?

Me: 40.

Girl1: Oh wow, you look great . (Speaks Russian to her friends and they all shake their head and agree).

Me: Yeah, I'm getting old though HA HA (some beta slippage).

Girl1: No, in Russia men who are in their 40s are just getting warmed up. Women in their 30s in Russia who aren't married can give up.

Me: I need to go to Russia . I heard the girls are better.

Girl1: Yeah, why do American guys like Russian girls so much? I see a lot of American guys in Russia.

Me: Because you're still feminine. American girls are masculine.

(Blah blah. I dropped some more red pill wisdom on them. Stuff i learned from RVF. She seemed intrigued).

Girl1: Are you here alone?

Me: No, I'm here with my friend. (My friend is a girl, I use the "she" pronoun).

Me: Well, I better find my friend. Are you guys going out tonight ?

Girl1: Yes. Can you recommend anywhere?

Me: We might be going to xxx bar. Do you want to meet us there tonight? Do you have an American phone?

I type my number in her phone and text myself.

Later I texted her that I'm going to xxx at 9pm. She said they'll be there.

I'm staying with a female friend who will be with us (she knows what I'm about and is cool with it, but logistics will be tricky).

The one who speaks English is a high 6 maybe, but her ass is great. The one I really like doesn't speak any English (or very little) and is a high 7 with a fantastic body. The other one is good too. I probably need to just work on the English speaking one.

Tomorrow's a travel day. I'll catch up in a day or two and follow up if this ends in a smash, a make out session, a flake, or a big nothing.

Post: #1089

(12-03-2013 11:17 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Later I texted her that I'm going to xxx at 9pm. She said they'll be there.

I'm staying with a female friend who will be with us (she knows what I'm about and is cool with it, but logistics will be tricky).

The one who speaks English is a high 6 maybe, but her ass is great. The one I really like doesn't speak any English (or very little) and is a high 7 with a fantastic body. The other one is good too. I probably need to just work on the English speaking one.

Tomorrow's a travel day. I'll catch up in a day or two and follow up if this ends in a smash, a make out session, a flake, or a big nothing.

Two of them showed up. The third (the hottest one) was missing her boyfriend back in Russia and didn't want to go out.

Nothing happened. Having a female friend with me was a total cock-block. They hit it off and started on girl talk and I felt like a 3rd wheel. When I met them on the beach and I was alone, there was mild sexual tension there (talking about the quality of Russian girls for American guys, they said I looked great, some teasing, etc). None of that happened at night. It was all asexual girl happy talk.

Note to self, no more traveling with platonic female friends.

Post: #1090

Sorry to hear that Dusty. The girls definitely seemed liked good prospects--especially after they admired your looks. They also showed up to the bar you mentioned you would be at--obvious interest in seeing you again.

Yeah ditch the platonic friend because you got cock-blocked out of potential threesome here with two young Russians in Hawaii.

The 50% Italian in me always assumes that men and women can never just be friends.

Post: #1091

(12-05-2013 09:09 PM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  Sorry to hear that Dusty. The girls definitely seemed liked good prospects--especially after they admired your looks. They also showed up to the bar you mentioned you would be at--obvious interest in seeing you again.

Yeah ditch the platonic friend because you got cock-blocked out of potential threesome here with two young Russians in Hawaii.

The 50% Italian in me always assumes that men and women can never just be friends.

Yeah, I smashed this friend a couple years ago, but we put each other in our friendzone. I could probably get another smash, but she would require wining and dining which I wont do.

It's possible I can get another bite of the apple with the Russian who spoke english. She is staying for 3 weeks in my state but different city while her friends go home. Maybe I can encourage her to visit. When we were saying good byes, she told me to text her. She's an Americanphile - meaning she loves all things American. Which probably means she wants to try some American cock.

I'm 48 and getting some new found confidence with the real young ones. These Russians were early 20s, and I got digits from a 20 year old last week. Then on one leg of my flight I sat next to a 19 year old sorority girl. Pretty hot too. I was telling her about my Hawaii trip and she was teasing me about my "friend" being a FWB. She asked me if I had a girlfriend, and I said not a serious one because I like playing the field. She said "OMG! Me too!" I would have asked for digits but she doesn't live near me. Her mom (divorced) was sitting near the front of the plane. She introduced me to her when we got off the plane, and she is about my age and was eyeing me up lasciviously. ha ha.

My point is that I have been thinking that early 20s (or 19) has been out of reach for me for some time, but now I'm reconsidering. I've been concentrating on 30 somethings. But I'm starting to think 19-25 might be viable, I have to start going for it to find out. I'll still go for the 30 somethings, but if I see a young one, I'm going for it from now on and not disqualify myself. Sometimes I erroneously come up with female attraction assumptions based on my male mind. When I was 19-25 I didn't have attraction for 48 year old women - Christ I don't have attraction for 48 year old women now! This doesn't mean all of these 19-25 year old women can't be attracted to 48 year old guys.

Post: #1092

(12-05-2013 10:17 PM)Dusty Wrote:  My point is that I have been thinking that early 20s (or 19) has been out of reach for me for some time, but now I'm reconsidering. I've been concentrating on 30 somethings. But I'm starting to think 19-25 might be viable, I have to start going for it to find out. I'll still go for the 30 somethings, but if I see a young one, I'm going for it from now on and not disqualify myself. Sometimes I erroneously come up with female attraction assumptions based on my male mind. When I was 19-25 I didn't have attraction for 48 year old women - Christ I don't have attraction for 48 year old women now! This doesn't mean all of these 19-25 year old women can't be attracted to 48 year old guys.

If you look young for your age, it's not hard to generate interest from much younger girls, especially 19-25. The problem for me has been when they find out my age (only American girls, though). Do you tell them your age?

Post: #1093

(12-06-2013 08:27 AM)jakester318 Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 10:17 PM)Dusty Wrote:  My point is that I have been thinking that early 20s (or 19) has been out of reach for me for some time, but now I'm reconsidering. I've been concentrating on 30 somethings. But I'm starting to think 19-25 might be viable, I have to start going for it to find out. I'll still go for the 30 somethings, but if I see a young one, I'm going for it from now on and not disqualify myself. Sometimes I erroneously come up with female attraction assumptions based on my male mind. When I was 19-25 I didn't have attraction for 48 year old women - Christ I don't have attraction for 48 year old women now! This doesn't mean all of these 19-25 year old women can't be attracted to 48 year old guys.

If you look young for your age, it's not hard to generate interest from much younger girls, especially 19-25. The problem for me has been when they find out my age (only American girls, though). Do you tell them your age?

I usually have a "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy about age. When you ask them, they always ask you. In the case of the Russians on the beach, they looked so young to me I wasn't sure if they were old enough to drink and I wanted to ask them out, so I asked their age. Sure enough, they asked me. I shaved off 8 years.

Maybe I should say 39, but that sounds contrived. 38 maybe?

Post: #1094

It's probably close to impossible for many 48 year old guys to get 19 to 23 poon. But it's not because they are 48 per se, it's because they let themselves go to shit. A lot of guys my age have huge guts, concave chests, hunched weak shoulders, fat faces and so on. They don't feel attractive, and its reflective in their personalities. They don't bother with nice clothes because they don't look good on them any way. It's a downward spiral.

But it's something they can control. With eating discipline and working out, you can extend your young pussy gettin shelf life probably into your 50s or even beyond.(I consider girls in their 30s young.)

Sure there's times I don't feel like working out and times I feel like indulging in junk food, but I know my fitness is my key strategic enabler for attracting girls decades younger than me.

Post: #1095

(12-06-2013 11:48 AM)Dusty Wrote:  It's probably close to impossible for many 48 year old guys to get 19 to 23 poon.

Like you said, it just depends on how that 48 year old man looks and behaves.

Older Men/Younger Women is my favorite subject. I study it intensely.

I have seen many examples of this in the real world.

When my dad was 44, he was banging a 18 year old, she was a 9.

I have a female freind who was banging her 45 year old college professor when she was 19.

I'm 38, I just banged a 20 year old who said that no age is "too old" for her.

The examples are endless.

I will say this:

All of the older guys I know who have banged much younger women, all have a few things in common..

1) They appear youthful. They look good for their age.

2) They act youthful. Good sense of humor, very little bitterness and cynacism.

3) They have game. they know how to talk to people and make girls laugh.

*****

I'M GOING TO DO AN ANTI-AGING POST NOW! A few members have asked me for one and I think it's time I did one.

Post: #1096

Most of the younger women I have met this year want a guy who is at least 6-10 years older than them. They are sick to death of fist-pumping, PBR-drinking frat bros and skinny-jean hipsters.

Even the hipster chicks, no, especially the hipster chicks.

A nice bonus is because you are 'different' from the usual guys they drink/sleep with, you can get away with a lot more in and out of bed with them. ['Oh, he's 35 so he likes to do freakier things than college guys, I'm down for trying that out...']

Giovonny made a good point in that other thread about usually saying he was 29, but several chicks wanted an older guy than that. They want older, successful men, daddy fantasies, Dominant men, and/or something different -- why not give it to them?

When you pretend to be something you are not, your Game suffers. Most socialized women can smell it on you that something is off. They might still bang you, but you won't do as well as you probably would have otherwise with them. Do you really think they care if you are 32 or 35 or 39 if they are 20? They do not.

You know how in Game we talk about 'Show, don't tell?' Show them why you as an older guy are better. It ain't that hard, they have no life experience anyway...

Post: #1097

(12-07-2013 12:23 PM)horn Wrote:  Most of the younger women I have met this year want a guy who is at least 6-10 years older than them.

Even the hipster chicks, no, especially the hipster chicks.

Yes, girls who like to be "edgy" or "different" often like older men.

They often like to experiment with stuff that is "taboo" or "ironic".

(12-07-2013 12:23 PM)horn Wrote:  Giovonny made a good point in that other thread about usually saying he was 29

It's hard to say. How can I tell if a girl prefers 29 or 39???

I choose to error on the side of younger. But, whats funny is that I recently told a girl that I was 39, then, she saw my ID and learned that I was much older. She said that she was turned on by the fact that I was so much older than her. She is 21.

She prefered 38 to 29, but, if I would have told her I was 39 initially, I don't know how she would have responded?

So, I don't know? Should I say 29, 30, 31, or 38? I not worried about it, its not that important.

Whats important is my charisma, swagger, conversation, sense of humor and game. If that stuff is good, the number won't matter much.

Post: #1098

It's great to be a man isn't it? Women start losing their sexual appeal sometime in their 30's, and most become unfuckable by their 40s. If they go for younger men, they are deemed "cougars", not exactly a highly sought out designation.

Men can continue their sexual appeal into their 40s, 50s, and even beyond. It takes some work, and the appeal isn't universal, but older guys can fuck girls decades younger than them. Though they can be shamed for it - the shame is largely based on envy and jealousy.

Post: #1099

Gio, what is your opinion on graying hair? few girls said it is much worse than having no hair at all.

(12-06-2013 01:32 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:48 AM)Dusty Wrote:  It's probably close to impossible for many 48 year old guys to get 19 to 23 poon.

Like you said, it just depends on how that 48 year old man looks and behaves.

Older Men/Younger Women is my favorite subject. I study it intensely.

I have seen many examples of this in the real world.

When my dad was 44, he was banging a 18 year old, she was a 9.

I have a female freind who was banging her 45 year old college professor when she was 19.

I'm 38, I just banged a 20 year old who said that no age is "too old" for her.

The examples are endless.

I will say this:

All of the older guys I know who have banged much younger women, all have a few things in common..

1) They appear youthful. They look good for their age.

2) They act youthful. Good sense of humor, very little bitterness and cynacism.

3) They have game. they know how to talk to people and make girls laugh.

*****

I'M GOING TO DO AN ANTI-AGING POST NOW! A few members have asked me for one and I think it's time I did one.

Post: #1100

(12-07-2013 06:14 PM)ashraf Wrote:  Gio, what is your opinion on graying hair? few girls said it is much worse than having no hair at all.

(12-06-2013 01:32 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:48 AM)Dusty Wrote:  It's probably close to impossible for many 48 year old guys to get 19 to 23 poon.

Like you said, it just depends on how that 48 year old man looks and behaves.

Older Men/Younger Women is my favorite subject. I study it intensely.

I have seen many examples of this in the real world.

When my dad was 44, he was banging a 18 year old, she was a 9.

I have a female freind who was banging her 45 year old college professor when she was 19.

I'm 38, I just banged a 20 year old who said that no age is "too old" for her.

The examples are endless.

I will say this:

All of the older guys I know who have banged much younger women, all have a few things in common..

1) They appear youthful. They look good for their age.

2) They act youthful. Good sense of humor, very little bitterness and cynacism.

3) They have game. they know how to talk to people and make girls laugh.

*****

I'M GOING TO DO AN ANTI-AGING POST NOW! A few members have asked me for one and I think it's time I did one.

if its so troublesome, there is something called hair dye