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Lothario · 07-24-2013 08:23 AM

Get outa here Gio, No you are not Rusty Gio, just your luck of the draw that day of getting married and paired gals. We all know it's a numbers game.

Busy right now, will type up few Interesting approaches in the last two days ........

slubu · 07-24-2013 09:01 AM

Lothario, what happened with the 22yo coffee shop chick that wanted to go wine tasting?

Lothario · 07-24-2013 09:48 AM

(07-24-2013 09:01 AM)slubu Wrote: Lothario, what happened with the 22yo coffee shop chick that wanted to go wine tasting?

I texted her a " Happy 4th of July " , No response, called a few days later with no response. Found out her Granddad is the head of Big Department at my Uni, He can fuck me up if he finds out, In a way I am glad things didn't progress on another note it would have been such a power trip to bang his Granddaughter Whip

iknowexactly · 07-24-2013 10:12 AM

(07-01-2013 10:09 AM)baristabanger Wrote: ..said a similar opener to a 9 the other day and while she blew me out, she still said, "Thanks though, I've never had anyone just come up like that."

There's some good support for the "Guys never approach!!" rant.

Maybe she's lying and it was 10 or 20 but she said "Never."

Unless she was like 15 that's amazing.

Giovonny · 07-24-2013 02:14 PM

(07-24-2013 02:31 AM)Hallasan Wrote: It's amazing that even someone as dedicated at daygame as you strikes out hard some days. Just goes to show that perseverance is critical.

Respect for being honest

I get rejected constantly.

Day Game is not easy. It takes thick skin.

PERSEVERANCE is the most important thing!

I have approached thousands of girls. How many did I bang?

Less then 10%.

90% rejected me.

This is a rough business, if you are sensitive and take things personally.

It's a lot of fun is you don't take yourself too serious and try to enjoy it.

(07-24-2013 02:33 AM)starmaze Wrote: Thanks for sharing! I hope this didnt discourage your friend but just gave him perspective of day game reality. No matter how good you are its still a number game. Not every girl will be interested in you In fact, most will not. But every now and then you find a girl that will love your approach. Its important to keep it realistic though to avoid dissapointment.

I play the numbers game. I approach, approach, approach, until I find a good match.

I wish I has a better method but until I become famous and open a twitter account, this is my strategy.

(07-24-2013 08:23 AM)Lothario Wrote: Get outa here Gio, No you are not rusty

No, I was rusty.

We all get rusty.

Just little things like my eye contact and my rambling could have been better.

I'm not concerned about it. I know how to give myself a "Game Tune Up". 10 approaches and I will be back at full power.

Lothario · 07-24-2013 03:44 PM

Monday's Approach: I was tired from a busy day, not dressed in my best and leaving work late walking through the University to the Parking Structure I see Girls from different cheerleading teams in their Skimpy Outfits again, They were here last week as well, may be some competition. I'm in my own thoughts carrying the thought process from work home and I see a Girl 26-30 year old at about 90 degress coming towards me, Our Eyes meet and she smiles and doesn't break the eye contact. It's On .... That was my espresso shot, woke me up. She comes close and I notice she has busty fake tits popping out of her Athletic wear and nice toned legs in shorts..... and I open still holding eye contact with a mild smile ....

Me: Is there a cheerleading competition going on

Her: yes, you should come and watch.

Me: Too Busy not tonight ....

Her: her, well cometition is going on till the end of the weekend, you should come.

Me: I will try, I just moved from FL and am trying to figure things out in town.

Her: Do you work at ?

Me: yes, and my usual DHV story, that sits well

Me: What are you upto today

Her: I am volunteering for the event ...

Me: That's cool and how does that make you some money Smile

Her: laughing I make money by doing PR for businesses, goes a little about the details of her business and i ask a couple of questions feigning interest.

Me: Is that an Indian Bracelet on your Arm .

Her: No I bought it from..

Me: looks exactly like what my Sisters used to make ..

Her: So you are Indian ?

Me: Wrong , Nepali

Her: Whats your name ?

Me: name's Lothario and you are .

Her: My name is Tits

Me: Listen I would to carry an Interesting conversation with you, let me take out for Drinks sometime.

Her: Sure
We exchange numbers and I ask her , Lets get together day after tomorrow, she said fine and we part ways and she turns around and says, It was nice metting you ...

Follow-Up: I texted her yesterday, response with in 5 min, She remebered the spellings of my name exactly and hoped that she didn't butcher it, after few exchanges Date # 1 set for next week.

Tuesday's Approach at Gas Station : I pull in see a young blonde girl 19-20 yr old in shorts and cut T shirts showing a lot of skin bend over in a window and talking to another fat girl who is getting gas, I pull in at the pump so that young girl is facing me and start pumping gas in my car so she can look at me, She did a partial look towards me again and my vision was blocked by her fat friend. friend drives her car to park at the cleaners and young girl starts walking towards another car at the next pump and turns to look at me and i open with

Me: Is that a Hybrid.

Her: No it's not.

Me: Good , I don't think they are worth the extra money.

Her: I don't have extra money any way ( Now she is walking towards me and we are talking up close) I lean aginst my car

Me: Wait a second didn't I see you at the University this morning ?

Her: I go to a UNI 40 miles from here

Me: what are you studying ?

Her: I am a Nursing Student at Uni .

Me: I thought so, you have that caring look going on.

Her: What do you do ?

Me: Usual Story that sits well for this young Nursing Student.

Me: Doing any rotations at the hospital this summer ?

Her: No I am working at Applebee's this summer to make money

Me: Cool, Listen I just moved here from FL and don't know much about the town, How about we get together some time ?

Her: sure next week would be good, I am off on Tuesday.

Me: let's exchange numbers

Her: My Phone is in the Car.

M: well , go get it ..

Her friend walked towards us and seeing she is talking to , left us alone and stood by young girls car thumbing on the phone, she goes back and her friend sits in the car and they have a mini conference, I'm thinking fatty is going to cock block. I go back and sit in my car and roll the windown down and turn the music on, Young girl comes back, leans on my window, we exchange numbers and both of them leave in the young girls car.

I smell something fishy, IDK why but sensed as they were soft pros ?, to much skin during the daytime, exposing posture, too flirty vibe and fat friend seemed odd, Retrospectively I am thinking should have made an offer or hinted towards making some extra cash Whip

Follow-Up: I texted her about 10 min after meeting " Nice running into you at the Gas Station" . No response , will follow up in a couple of days.

Monday's Approach was the only approach of the day, Tuesday I did got rejected 2-3 times and 1 half ass approach that I ejected out of, today did 2 approaches that didn't go anywhere and met One Girl that I had met before and rekindled the connection and set a tentative date in 2 weeks (Her mom is in town), I do get my share of rejections but I am approaching less and getting selective as to who I approach and am having better luck and I guess screening has a lot to do with it.

Will keep you guys updated as to what happens with these recent approaches.......

Giovonny · 07-24-2013 03:54 PM

(07-24-2013 03:44 PM)Lothario Wrote: I smell something fishy, IDK why but sensed as they were soft pros ?

Lol!!!

When your game gets good. You become very adept at spotting pros, escorts, strippers, gold diggers, and hustlers.

Game = Social Instincts

baristabanger · 07-24-2013 11:32 PM

(07-24-2013 10:12 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:
(07-01-2013 10:09 AM)baristabanger Wrote: ..said a similar opener to a 9 the other day and while she blew me out, she still said, "Thanks though, I've never had anyone just come up like that."

There's some good support for the "Guys never approach!!" rant.

Maybe she's lying and it was 10 or 20 but she said "Never."

Unless she was like 15 that's amazing.

It's a small area I live in, maybe only around half a million in a 75 mile radius. It's only been about two months, but it's obvious social circle game here in the far north of WI is the norm. I have ran into the occasional 16-17 year old who ate it up, but I bounced soon after for obvious reasons...

~~horn~~ · 07-25-2013 04:38 PM

(07-24-2013 10:12 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:
(07-01-2013 10:09 AM)baristabanger Wrote: ..said a similar opener to a 9 the other day and while she blew me out, she still said, "Thanks though, I've never had anyone just come up like that."

There's some good support for the "Guys never approach!!" rant.

Maybe she's lying and it was 10 or 20 but she said "Never."

Unless she was like 15 that's amazing.

Julia Roberts did an interview years ago [10+] about when she was single and in-btw marriages that guys *never* approached her, not even in NYC.

She even talked about the one guy who actually approached her in D'Agostino's. Said he was totally average looking, but self-confident/funny, and she almost called him to go out but was too shy.

The hottest girl at my Uni said the same thing. She had to ask a guy to Homecoming. That's where I first learned that this phenomena was mostly true. Drop dead gorgeous, tall blonde from the South, super friendly.

Giovonny · 07-27-2013 01:05 PM

I drive into the parking lot at Trader Joes and there is a cute girl waiting to cross the road. I make eye contact with her and signal for her to go ahead and cross. I park my car and get out and we make eye contact again as I am walking into the store. She's cute. Italian/Spanish looking with tight yoga pants on. I casually glance back one more time and she is looking my way. This is a lot of eye contact, I better go for it.

I notice her awesome dog, I Siberian huskie.

I am about 20 feet away from her, so I have to talk loudly.

She is loading her groceries into her car.

me: what kind of dog is that?
her: a huskie
me: what a nice looking dog
her: thank you
me: boy or girl?
her: boy
me: where did you get him?
her: a breeder
me: you have great taste
her: thanks
me: can i ask you a personal question?
her: ok
me: do you date spanish guys?
her: i never have
me: maybe i can be the first?

She smiles, I walk over to her car.

me: my name is gio, nice meeting you
her: im michelle
me: do you live around here?
her: yes over in south san francisco
me: oh me too, the cold weather doesn't bother you?
her: well, it did at first but im getting used to it
me: where did you grow up?
her: sacramento. i came down to go to Cal.
me: i like smart people
her: what do you do?
me: im a sports psychologist and trainer
her: oh cool.
me: I better let you go. lets exchange numbers and get a beer or something
her: sure

Akula · 07-28-2013 06:40 AM

ok so I'm still trying to work more at my game, especially my daygame, but as I did 10+ approaches on Friday night at the bars/clubs I wanted to highlight my favorite one which occured at the 24-7 McDonalds I ended up at 4 o'clock. More than anyting, I'm just happy I got my first ever McDonalds's approach done - always wanted to do that! Felt like a flag...man I would love to convert a McDonalds intro into a bang!

Anyway, I had ordered my food, was looking around for a single girl to eat across from, couldn't find any real hotties, but did see one girl who was no better than say a 5.5 at best, looked early 20s. So I sit across from her - then notice this huge pile of discarded burger rappers in front of her with a full box of old chicken McNuggets behind it.

Right as she's finishing up her burger and putting her trash to the side of the table I chime in...

Me: you haven't even touched your Chicken McNuggets young lady....

her: ha ha, they aren't mine, some drunk obnoxious guys who were here earlier left them.

Me: ah, understand. I'm just enjoying my burger but was wondering if you'd eaten all that food....guess those guys were hungry!

Her: haha yes...where are you from?

Etc, etc., etc.....that was basically it...I was in, we had a nice 20 minute convo with her, probably the most interesting one of the night as we talked about Russia and the school system, how it's getting worse, where she grew up etc. Her friend joined us after she'd gotten her food and was complaining about her husband so I eventually left, but it was basically a great end to the evening - got the digits but won't be follwing up as she wasn't really that attractive. But who cares - sometimes it's the simple conversations or situations at the end of the night that can be rewarding even if you aren't interested in the girl at the end of the day....simply good practice.

Lothario · 08-01-2013 08:10 AM

Alright guys here is the follow up on Monday's Approach last week, Date # 1 was last night, IMO date went really well, I was trying for 1st date Bang, signs were there , I think she didn't want to seem too easy. Did make out times 2, Squeeze her ass and rub her Nipples and backed off on a high note knowing there is no bang tonight.

Pertinent details of the Date: White Girl 26-30, Athletic body with breast Augmentation, into eclectic stuff and surprisingly quite pleasant attitude. doesn't smoke or drink coffee, likes wine Smile

We met at my Fav restaurant that I have on lockdown, I was giving the Impression that I moved here 4-5 months ago and was getting info on town.

We exhanged basic info about each other, she didn't grill me on past relationships like other US girls do, I started touching her from the start as she did entertain my request to wear a summer dress and heels showing nicely toned legs and gigantic titas.

Downed a bottle of wine with meal and left my seat to sit next to her and did Slubu's Thigh approximation test, she moved her thigh away ( Not ready yet ) little more chit chat and rested my hand on her thigh she didn't move her thigh away this time and kept my hand there rubbing her thigh and at a high point in converation kissed her forehead and then went for a short kiss on the lips, well reciprocated.

I told her that my roommate's mom is in town and I can't show her my Place but let's go to her place for champagne that my friend gave me ealier. She said not tonight as her place is really messy and would like to tidy it up before inviting me over.

Bill came and she did offer to split it, I paid in full and told her she buy me a drink at the next venue we talked about. left and strolled through a little park that she was keen on showing me, She didn't want to sit on the bench a sit was really dark and i thought she is not ready for a make out yet, Strolling in one of the empty streets I gave her a hug and put her back on the wall and went for a makeout, Nice she was into it and I stopped her wanting more.

We are passing close to a hotel and see a room where we can see luggage in the room on the bed but no people and she says may be the couple is the bath room , I suggested to stay here , may be we will see some action and went for a make out again, Ass Squeeze and rubbing the Nipple and asked How about that champagne. She said give me a week and I will buy that drink and Champagne for you. She asked me if I will take a rain check on that ? I said yes thinking Its a Bang on Date # 2, which is tentatively set in about 10 days as she is travelling and I'm travelling.

Conclusion : I think it looks like a straight forward 2nd date bang sans any unforseen circumstances.

If you guys think I did any thing wrong, do tell me and suggestions are welcome to secure the bang, I know you guys are rooting for me ......

WestCoast · 08-01-2013 09:16 AM

@lothario looks solid to me. 9/10

Only negative I see there is saying you have roomates? (Guessing that is a logistical issue for you given your situation).

Other than that looks like it would have been a good shot at a first date bang. A day 2 should be fine (assuming she doesn't go bat shit crazy with a hamster reset).

Good work and good luck!

MMM · 08-02-2013 05:06 PM

A nice looking girl in her twenties (a 7) got on and stood next to me, we were both holding on to the same pole. I tried to make eye contact but she wasn’t looking my way. Also, she was much shorter so I would have had to stoop down to make eye contact. She got off two stops later and I followed her out of the subway car. I almost lost her and caught her just as she was about to exit the station. I stopped her and told her that I saw her in the subway and thought that she was nice looking and wanted to meet her. She replied that she was on her way to work and couldn’t talk but gave me her number. Subsequent texts messages the same day revealed that she is an engineering student working for the city over the summer. I tied to make plans for drinks after work. She asked for my age ( about 48) and I told her. Radio silence then ... she replied “I’m twenty.” I replied “Eww, that’s too old for me.” Shit test, passed. She’s now following up with more questions, yada yada.

As I’m pushing into my late forties, age becomes a factor with some (but not all) of the younger girls. Having discovered game later in life, I’m looking back with regret to all the missed macking oppurtunities. To all you young guys out there, approach, approach, approach! Game, game, game. Time’s a wasting! Shut off this computer and approach. Do it. Now.

Giovonny · 08-07-2013 02:42 PM

Safeway. Ice cream section. I see 2 girls laughing uncontrollably. One is cute, one is not. Wearing exercise clothes..

me: is that ice cream funny?
her: yes, we were laughing at the butter pecan
me: huh? you guys are crazy
her: no seriously
me: aren't you gonna buy some
her: we are thinking about it
me: we you guys just working out?
her: yeah
me: at crunch?
her: no at 24
me: hey thats my gym
her: oh ya
me: yes, you are in good shape, you can have a little cheat day
her: dont encourage me, I just had a cheat day.
me: oh, i dont want to be a bad influence, dont listen to me, listen to your body
her: no ice cream for us
me: good for you
her: yeah, maybe i will see you at the gym
me: maybe we should just exchange numbers now
her: umm, i dont think so
me: ok, no prob

Walked away with my tail between my legs.

I'm a little rusty and out of rhythm.

I'm going out now to approach 10 girls. We report back later.

gandt · 08-07-2013 03:13 PM

(08-07-2013 02:42 PM)Giovonny Wrote: Safeway. Ice cream section. I see 2 girls laughing uncontrollably. One is cute, one is not. Wearing exercise clothes..

me: is that ice cream funny?
her: yes, we were laughing at the butter pecan
me: huh? you guys are crazy
her: no seriously
me: aren't you gonna buy some
her: we are thinking about it
me: we you guys just working out?
her: yeah
me: at crunch?
her: no at 24
me: hey thats my gym
her: oh ya
me: yes, you are in good shape, you can have a little cheat day
her: dont encourage me, I just had a cheat day.
me: oh, i dont want to be a bad influence, dont listen to me, listen to your body
her: no ice cream for us
me: good for you
her: yeah, maybe i will see you at the gym
me: maybe we should just exchange numbers now
her: umm, i dont think so
me: ok, no prob

Walked away with my tail between my legs.

I'm a little rusty and out of rhythm.

I'm going out now to approach 10 girls. We report back later.

Tomorrow is a new day

purplelake02 · 08-08-2013 08:32 AM

I completed my 100 approach experiment.

In the end:

Out of 100 approaches 12 numbers and 2 dates.

I guess this numbers are not satisfactory.

gandt · 08-08-2013 08:42 AM

(08-08-2013 08:32 AM)purplelake02 Wrote: I completed my 100 approach experiment.

In the end:

Out of 100 approaches 12 numbers and 2 dates.

I guess this numbers are not satisfactory.

Are you a beginner?

What kinds of approaches have you been doing?

purplelake02 · 08-08-2013 10:57 AM

(08-08-2013 08:42 AM)gandt Wrote:
(08-08-2013 08:32 AM)purplelake02 Wrote: I completed my 100 approach experiment.

In the end:

Out of 100 approaches 12 numbers and 2 dates.

I guess this numbers are not satisfactory.

Are you a beginner?

What kinds of approaches have you been doing?

Im almost a beginner. These are the first cold approaches in my life. I do indirect approaches as mentioned in Rooshs daybang guide. Mostly, bookstore, grocery store, etc. I open by situational opener.

I made these approaches in 4 months, since there are no prospects in these place as many as on streets.

gandt · 08-08-2013 11:20 AM

(08-08-2013 10:57 AM)purplelake02 Wrote: Im almost a beginner. These are the first cold approaches in my life. I do indirect approaches as mentioned in Rooshs daybang guide. Mostly, bookstore, grocery store, etc. I open by situational opener.

I made these approaches in 4 months, since there are no prospects in these place as many as on streets.

Alright bro, then take it easy on yourself. This is a good number to start with.

Try mixing it up a little. You don't always have to go indirect. Explore what feels right for you given the situation you are in.

purplelake02 · 08-08-2013 11:51 AM

(08-08-2013 11:20 AM)gandt Wrote:
(08-08-2013 10:57 AM)purplelake02 Wrote: Im almost a beginner. These are the first cold approaches in my life. I do indirect approaches as mentioned in Rooshs daybang guide. Mostly, bookstore, grocery store, etc. I open by situational opener.

I made these approaches in 4 months, since there are no prospects in these place as many as on streets.

Alright bro, then take it easy on yourself. This is a good number to start with.

Try mixing it up a little. You don't always have to go indirect. Explore what feels right for you given the situation you are in.

Actually, since im mid 30s and going for 20 somethings, i didnt have courage to compliment them, they could see me as creepy, i thought.
Thats why im indirect mostly, as Roosh and Roissy suggested.

starmaze · 08-08-2013 02:57 PM

(08-08-2013 11:51 AM)purplelake02 Wrote:
(08-08-2013 11:20 AM)gandt Wrote:
(08-08-2013 10:57 AM)purplelake02 Wrote: Im almost a beginner. These are the first cold approaches in my life. I do indirect approaches as mentioned in Rooshs daybang guide. Mostly, bookstore, grocery store, etc. I open by situational opener.

I made these approaches in 4 months, since there are no prospects in these place as many as on streets.

Alright bro, then take it easy on yourself. This is a good number to start with.

Try mixing it up a little. You don't always have to go indirect. Explore what feels right for you given the situation you are in.

Actually, since im mid 30s and going for 20 somethings, i didnt have courage to compliment them, they could see me as creepy, i thought.
Thats why im indirect mostly, as Roosh and Roissy suggested.

i am in my mid 30s too and think hiding your intentions behind "opinion openers" like that is way more creepy than being direct. indirect is ok when its situational but what you do is "opinion opener" and it doesnt sound natural to me. if i was a girl i would think" is this guy really so shy and awkward he pretends to be interested in my opinion on a book"? If you are affraid to go direct look at Giovonny approaches, he often use some situational, natural indirect style.

gandt · 08-08-2013 03:31 PM

(08-08-2013 02:57 PM)starmaze Wrote: i am in my mid 30s too and think hiding your intentions behind "opinion openers" like that is way more creepy than being direct. indirect is ok when its situational but what you do is "opinion opener" and it doesnt sound natural to me. if i was a girl i would think" is this guy really so shy and awkward he pretends to be interested in my opinion on a book"? If you are affraid to go direct look at Giovonny approaches, he often use some situational, natural indirect style.

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Anything you try and hide makes you creepy.

I guarantee you that as soon as you get one number from going direct this whole idea of "it being creepy" will fade away.

Giovonny · 08-08-2013 04:22 PM

(08-07-2013 03:13 PM)gandt Wrote: Tomorrow is a new day

Haha, yes!

Thank you.

Tomorrow is already here. I will do a few more today.

I am getting myself back into flow. I can feel my masculine energy building.

Here are a few from yesterday..

Whole Foods. Produce section. Young Latina. I see her looking around for something...

Of course, before I say anything, I put myself in her line of vision so she can observe me for a few moments before I make my approach. She is searching for something..

me: what are you looking for?
her: lettuce
me: its right there
her: omg right in front of me
me: its hard to see them because everything is green
her: seriously

I continue shopping but keep an eye on her. 2 mins later..

me: did you find your spinach?
her: spinach?
me: oh, wait, i was looking for spinach, lol, i mean did you find your lettuce?
her: I did.
me: I really just wanted to come and say hello to you because you look nice today, whats your name?
her: christina
me: im gio, nice to meet you, do you go to school around here?
her: yes, at the junior college
me: oh, i went there for a semester, i liked the weather
her: it is nice
me: cool, listen, would you be interested in hanging out sometime? maybe get coffee or a drink?
her: hmmmm, well...
me: seems like you are thinking about it, you are not sure..
her: well, i mean..
me: whats holding you back?
her: oh i don't know..
me: do you think i'm too old for you?
her: umm no
me: how old are you?
her: i'll be 20 next month
me: oh thats fine, i'm 30
her: oh ya thats ok
me: why don't you call me and that way i will have your number and we can do tacos and a beer sometime..?
her: honestly, im not really looking for anything right now
me: oh nothing too serious
her: ummm, no thanks
me: you look like you already regret your decision
her: haha, im ok
me: you sure?
her: yes, no offense, i respect your confidence for coming up to me like that.

That's what she said.

Shit, I'm not even warmed up yet.

*****

At the mall, I see a fine Asiangirl walking at an angle to me. I carefully put myself right in her pathway so that she walk right up behind me. As she gets up close to my back shoulder, I pretend that she surprised me and I turn my head to look at her..

me: hello
her: hi
me: you look nice today
her: thanks
me: do you date spanish guys?
her: no
her: thats creepy
me: you should try it sometime

Kept walking. I'm building momentum.

Giovonny · 08-08-2013 05:17 PM

(08-08-2013 08:32 AM)purplelake02 Wrote: I completed my 100 approach experiment.

In the end:

Out of 100 approaches 12 numbers and 2 dates.

I guess this numbers are not satisfactory.

These numbers are very satisfactory. They are fantastic.

These were the first cold approaches of your life. Going 0/100 would have been a success because it is all just a process of learning and getting comfortable.

Comparing yourself to others is pointless.

This is about You vs You. Your Inner Battle is the most important battle of all.

You have more power then you think. Tap into it.

(08-08-2013 10:57 AM)purplelake02 Wrote: I made these approaches in 4 months.

100 approaches in 4 months?

That is less then 1 per day. Not enough.

Approach more, if you can, I'm sure how big your town is..?

Hopefully, you have a large downtown area + Universities + Shopping malls + Tourists, etc.

If you have that, start approaching more. More approaches = more dates = more bangs.

If you don't have that, then, I take back my words..

Keep pushing yourself out of your comfort zone.

(08-08-2013 11:51 AM)purplelake02 Wrote: Thats why im indirect mostly, as Roosh and Roissy suggested.

There are many layers and levels of direct vs indirect..

I explain it here:

Could you survive on just Day Game?

There is also the "Direct-Indirect" style, popularized by Krauser:

http://www.rooshv.com/direct-day-game-for-beginners

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