Post: #826

here's some pool game for you guys

I'll set the scene.

Picture this, I go out to the pool to drink and get some sun. I have a mixed drink, whiskey and fresca. I walk through the gate, two girls just arrived with a 12 pack of coors light..

I play it by cool and sit at a right angle to their right, about 15 feet away. They get into the pool, I keep sipping.

They get out of the pool, I keep sipping. Eventually I'm out of drink. I go back to my apartment to refill. I come back with a drink, walk through the gate and get into the pool because my feet are on fire. It's like 110 degrees here and I've been walking on concrete for for a couple hundred feet.

I get into the pool and sit on the stairs. The girls get in soon after. This is when I strike!..

The shorter girl is saying how much tanner the taller girl is. Taller girl says it's fake, she uses tanning beds.

I interject

"you use tanning beds? I would never use one"
Taller girl "why?"

I watched final destination 2 once and one of the characters got trapped in one and died

Tall girl"what! That would never happen! That's just a movie "

From there we talked about a bunch of Shit. Tall girl asked" do you usually drink whiskey by the pool hy yourself? "

" yeah this is everyday for me! Nah one of my friends was supposed to meet me out here but she couldn't make it out. I figured I'd come out and drink and get some sun anyways. "



First good sign of the approach, the tall girl says I'm super cute and she just wants to kiss me on the cheek.

I correct her" you mean on the lips? "

They asked me if I wanted a beer, of course I said yes.

Her friend went inside at one point. I figured the tall girl had chose me. I asked of she had a cig for me.

We smoked a cig.

Her friend comes back.

I excuse myself to the bathroom. Come back with a cooler with whiskey and fresca in it. I poured them a drink.

Shortly after me and the tall girl are in the pool and we're making out. I put her hand on my dick, she flattered me. I finger her in front of her friend. Her friend laughs and gets out. We keep ducking around and making out and petting each other.

We stop and get out. I say I have to go. I ask," what do you guys have planned for the rest of the day? " they tell me they are going to some bar later and invite me out.

I say I'll meet up with them around midnight. I take down the girls number and bounce.

Post: #827

Double post.

Oh yeah, there was this Mexican guy in the pool whole all this was going on. I would look over at him every now and en. When that girls hand was in my pants I saw him and his girl looking. He had a big Ass smile on his face. I shot him one of these

Post: #828

Been sort of out of sorts lately, but soldiering on...
See cute brunette in mall with those jeans that don't have back pockets (7.5)
She makes a b-line for victoria secret and follow her straight in.
She turns in the store, sort of opening her body to me, making it easier to walk up to her.

BB: Hey...(she looks up and smiles) I saw you pass by me over there and I thought you were you cute and that you should introduce yourself.

Girl: Oh! I'm so sorry but I'm taken (she had her hand over her heart when she said it, which is usually a good sign of sincerity, but...)

BB: uh huh, so...( I ramble on here for a little bit, but the entire time she's giggling and really opening up her body language, I notice a little triangle movement with the eyes too)

BB: Do you gesticulate a lot with your hands? You keep moving your chin when you talk...like a diva.

Girl: What? A Diva! haha, I don't think I know what "gesticulate" means.

BB: You move your hands when you talk. (a little example of the ramble. I simmered down the aggression of the approach because of the perceived sincerity of the boyfriend comment. She was really sweet and engaging)

All in all, got a number, but doubt it's going anywhere. When I texted my name to her phone, I noticed a picture of her and her boyfriend...I'm not quite stellar at disabling boyfriends just yet.
What I have noticed: girls up here in northern WI aren't used to the aggressive/bold approaches so they kind of work like a charm...said a similar opener to a 9 the other day and while she blew me out, she still said, "Thanks though, I've never had anyone just come up like that."

Post: #829

Hi guys,
im approaching girls for 3 months, i approached approximately 70 girls. 2 dates, 1 instant date occured.

i use mostly rooshs method (indirect daygame). if i see a girl alone at bookstore, grocery store etc. i dont have difficulty to open her nowadays. i had anxiety in the starting days. now i have difficulty to get the hooking point. Girls dont ask me question.

Now i want to write my 2 apporaches (sorry for my poor english im not anglosphere man)

grocery store in shopping mall
hb5, 31:

her back is in front of me.

me: escuse me, is this brand good corn flake (she seems busy and her head is full with thoughts)

her: yes , it is

me: mine is not good

her: dont buy it, its not good

her: buy from mine, you could like

conversation dies, she continues shopping

hb9, 23: outside shopping mall

outside the mall, i followed this girl from grocery store such that we went outside together.

we are walking and waiting to cross the street.

me:excuse me, is this melon good?

her: i dont know, im buying first time

me: i hope you know choosing the best ones.

her: i tried (she smiles) to choose. what do you say? did you buy before?

me: yeah, it turned out unripe and tasteless

her: aaaaaa, what will i do now

(we are walking now together)

me: do you work around here?

her: no i live here

me: where do you work?

her: i dont work

me: housewife

her: smiles, i am looking to open a cafe

me: where to open?

her: around haskoy

me: i had a friend who had cafe but cafe was closed.. im talking about the bad things for you

her:

her: this is my home. (we came where she lives) wonder much about the melon.

me: what was your name?

her: maryam

me: nice to meet you

her: nice to meet you

it is shame that after she said i wonder much about it, i could say i wonder too.. lets change number such that i can learn your experience. i felt anxiety since we are in front of her house.

Post: #830

Lunch Break Approach : I am trolling my usual route and at the Coffee Shop , see a tall Girl in tall boots waiting for her drink while thumbing on her phone, me gusta , I use Gio's let her see me first and go ahead and order my coffee and I'm sure she saw me as I was ahead of her in her line of vision ( I wanted her to see me as I was getting looks today with new tie and dress shoes ). I get my drink and she is adding sugar in her drink now. I get over there and open with

Me: Nice shoes

Her: Thank you

Me: Aldo's

Her: No, I get them from Payless Shoe store

Me: you didn't had to tell me that, you could have told me , you ordered them from Italian Shoe maker and had them shipped ....

Her: (Laughing) , I wore them today as it might rain today.

Me: I just got my first pair of Cow Boy boots (I rambled a little about Cow Boy Botts) too, seem like everyone here wears them ..

Her: So you are not from here either ...

Me: No, I just moved from Fl

Her: What brought you here ?

Me: I am working with such and such department as a consultant and you must be a student here.

Her: No I'm working just as a secretary till I start studies this fall again.

Me: You already told me you are not from here but I am going to guess you are from East Coast somewhere

Her: Both Coasts, NY and SF , Ha ha ... She is giggling and twirling her hair ( I saw a spark ans wanted to push as much as I can )

Me: I have sometime before I get back, lets sit outside and finish our coffee ....

Her: Ok, lets go ....

Insta Date , and we are walking outside ......., I extend my hand.

Me: I am Lothario

Her: I am Klimkina

Me: you must be from Serbia ?

Her: No, I am from ------- ( Arabian Country )

Her : Where are you from ?

Me: Guess ?

her: Serbia, Is that why you Guessed about me ?

Me: No, I had a GF from serbia with your name

Now we are sitting outside on a Lunch table

Her: you didn't tell me where are you from

Post: #831

Lothario,

I love the simplicity of your approach!

"Nice shoes"

That line has gotten me laid before.

"I had a GF from serbia with your name"

Haha, nice play!

This girl has potential. Maintain the momentum and emotional connection with her. Keep her talking about her family and her life. She may need to connect with an older man!

*****

I got a good prospect from the grocery store last night.

I just went to return something and wasn't even really trying to game. Then, I saw a cute girl and thought about you guys. I had to take action...

She was standing right in front of the eggs, texting, she was blocking the path. Perfect opportunity for me to go and get eggs. She is blocking my way so I just touch her shopping cart with my hand and immedietley she says..

her: oh excuse me
me: no problem

We make eye contact, she walks away. I get a good look at her. She's very cute. Arabic looking, maybe Moroccan or Lebanese? Light olive skin, curly hair, good body.

The "pre-approach introduction" has been made. She looked at me and I looked at her.

I continue shopping, for girls. At that point, I didn't need to buy anything else so I just casually strolled the store pushing my cart.

One girl looked cute so I pushed my cart over near her and started looking at the same products she was. Normally, I would comment on whatever products we were looking at but she wan't very sexy so I eject.

Another girl came and stood near me, I'm sure she was trying to get my attention but I wasn't interested. Asian with a flat ass, didn't interest me.

I head up towards the front of the store to find my Moroccan girl. I check all the registers to make sure she is not paying already. I don't see her, I know she is still in the store somewhere. I casually look up and down each aisle until I see her looking at oatmeal. I head right over.

Ironically, she is blocking my path again. She sees me trying to squeeze by..

her: sorry
me: thats ok, its a traffic jam over here
her: (smile)
me: i didn't mean to interrupt your text over there
her: oh, no you didn't
me: were you checking your list
her: no
me: oh i thought you were, I keep my shopping list on my phone
her: ya me too, but i am shopping for someone else, im a personal shopper
me: a personal shopper? So, you were looking at someone elses list?
her: ya basically
me: i would like that job, i love shopping for food
her: me too, when its for myself, but, for someone else, its stressful
me: ya i can see that, you don't know exactly what they want
her: exactly
me: i also help people with their diets, its interesting to match people with food
her: it is
me: my name is gio
her: im zoe
me: nice meeting you
her: you too
me: i kind of gotta run but would you be interested in chatting again sometime?
her: yeah
me: wanna exchange numbers or something?
her: sure

She's sexy. I hope I can get her out on a date.

I will suggest a shopping date. Meet at Whole Foods, shop for dinner, go to my house and make dinner, sip wine.

She might not agree to this on the 1st date so maybe the 2nd date. 1st date, maybe just eat at Whole Foods and talk food while sipping beer.

Probably, a boring date for you guys but thats what I'm into.

I hope she likes to watch Anthony Bourdain because I do. I love foodie chicks.

Post: #832

Gio May be I am I agreeing with you too much but your approach above sounded exactly like what I do in a Grocery Store and not to rag on your approach but I am curious as to why you didn't Invest more time in the Interaction above and/or Pushed for an Instadate. Saying something like "I only have 10 min before I have to go, "Lets sit down somewhere for a drink or coffee" .

would like to hear Gio's take on two things

1. I just told a young RVF member today "the amount of time spent during an Approach is proportional to the responses you will get from Girls". Goal is to develop a connection with the Girl and not to get the number which you exchange only because you or the Girl didn't had time at the moment and as means to connect later.

2. Another thing I do if a Girl is Interested is to make tentative plans with in the next 2-3 days .

Girl from my approach above fits the bill where she is looking to explore the Fun Adult activities and I am ready to take her under my wings and at the same time she hasn't spent much time with her Daddy. I think I can fill that gap to be her Daddy and more ....

Post: #833

(07-03-2013 02:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  her: sorry
me: thats ok, its a traffic jam over here
her: (smile)
me: i didn't mean to interrupt your text over there
her: oh, no you didn't
me: were you checking your list
her: no
me: oh i thought you were, I keep my shopping list on my phone
her: ya me too, but i am shopping for someone else, im a personal shopper
me: a personal shopper? So, you were looking at someone elses list?
her: ya basically
me: i would like that job, i love shopping for food
her: me too, when its for myself, but, for someone else, its stressful
me: ya i can see that, you don't know exactly what they want
her: exactly
me: i also help people with their diets, its interesting to match people with food
her: it is
me: my name is gio
her: im zoe
me: nice meeting you
her: you too
me: i kind of gotta run but would you be interested in chatting again sometime?
her: yeah
me: wanna exchange numbers or something?
her: sure

This approach went well. Too well. At the very end, as she was walking away, she gave me a weird look. Something seemed a little strange to her. I was almost too comfortable. Maybe, she got the impression that I do this all the time..?

They have a good sense about this sometimes. Many girls are aware of the whole "pick up" scene and they are on the look out for it. We have to pretend like we know nothing about "pick up". It all has to seem spontaneous and innocent.

I need to pretend to be more nervous, just a little. I came across as to smooth.

I'm going to use this line more:

"hey, umm....(pause)...(slight nervous look on my face)...would you be interested in maybe exchanging numbers.......maybe chatting again sometime?

The key for me is too appear slightly nervous. I want to appear comfortable but not too comfortable. I want it to seem like I don't do this all the time. I'm going to pause more, stumble over a word here and there, make it seem like I don't know what to say at times.

My instincts have gotten better so whatever a girl says, I usually have automatic response that I immediately give. I need to remove the "automatic".

If I am never nervous, and I always my response ready, the approach can seem too "polished", "too perfect".

During the day, we don't want the girl to feel like we do this all the time.

This is a problem that can happen when we transition from beginner to intermediate.

Post: #834

Haven't documented any of my approaches lately. I intend on adding approaches to this thread everyday for at least a little while. Most notable approaches from today:

1
Two girls sitting near a statue. It's kinda busy, I sit 10 feet away from them, check my phone for a bit. (I like to do this, just overhear them for a bit and interject when possible). I hear they are tourists, one stands up to take a picture.

me: where are you from?
they: LA, where are you from?
me: I live here
they: oh, why are you sitting here, it's so packed with tourists!
me: it's my city, I can sit wherever I want (playfully)

can't remember too much beyond this point, but they were here for 5 hours and they were already high on weed. I ran cocky game, on the verge of too much. At some point I thought they weren't buying it anymore, and I stopped.

Usually I don't like that kind of communication, but the convo was superficial all the way and I think the main thing is that I'm afraid to bore them. They're tourists and they just want 5 days of fun --- that's how they came across. I need to practice radiating an "I'm all about fun" vibe.

I didn't feel a very strong connection. We got into talking about nightclubs, and I asked them if they wanted to join me and my friends on friday night. They agreed and I got the number.

One was hot, the other a little less, but still doable. How to play this? How many friends should I invite? A big group, or just one? And how is the escalation going to work? I live close to almost every night club, but someone needs to occupy the friend for this to work.

I'm looking for girls that I can date long term. So, while I suppose tourists like this are the easiest it'll get (3 of the 4 pairs of girls I approached the last two days were either high on drugs or about to take drugs --- mid day.), it's obviously going nowhere long term.

I went looking for different spots, ended up on another touristy spot. Approached a cute looking girl I thought was Dutch, standing by herself. I walk up to her.

2
me: hey, nice rucksack (in dutch)
her: what?
me: oh, you're not dutch. I said I like your rucksack.
her: thanks!
me: and I like your skirt as well, I like the whole outfit. Where are you from?
her: Ireland.
me: umm, North Ireland or the regular one?
her: haha, the regular one.

at that point a tourist interjected, asking if we wanted to take a picture of her. After that we had good conversation for a while, seguing into personal territory. She stayed here for two months and had a job taking tourists to bars. At that point (10 mins into conversation) I just said:

me: what about I'll take YOU to some bar.
her: well I'm really busy, I work long hours...
me: I'm asking you on a date. (smile)
her: well, sorry, I work a lot..
me: ok, no problem.

talked for about 20 seconds, then just 'take care', with a smile. I was satisfied with the interaction, I think I did all I could. We did have a fun chat, but she never totally opened up to get to know me better. Too bad.

This turned out to be quite a journal. More tomorrow.

Post: #835

(07-03-2013 08:13 PM)Lothario Wrote:  I am curious as to why you didn't invest more time in the interaction

Time restriction.

I was in a bit of a hurry, she was in a bit if a hurry.

Normally, I might invest a little more and push for an insta-date.

I need to use your line -- "I only have 10 min before I have to go, lets sit down somewhere for a drink or coffee".

I'm going to push a little harder for insta-dates.

(07-03-2013 08:13 PM)Lothario Wrote:  would like to hear Gio's take on two things

Quote:1. I just told a young RVF member today "the amount of time spent during an Approach is proportional to the responses you will get from Girls". Goal is to develop a connection with the Girl and not to get the number which you exchange only because you or the Girl didn't had time at the moment and as means to connect later.

Generally speaking, I agree. The more time you spend with a girl, the better chance that she will want to see you again.

The stronger the connection, the more likely she will return your first text/call.

Sometimes, that insta-date is a essentially your first date. After that "first date", she may or may not want to see you again. So, if you are going to insta-date, make sure you present yourself as strongly as you would on a first date, because thats what it is.

We should definitely go for insta-dates when they are available. Maybe, I should be doing this more..

Quote:2. Another thing I do if a Girl is Interested is to make tentative plans with in the next 2-3 days .

Absolutely.

If you create momentum, don't let the momentum die down. Set a date within the first 48-72 hours.

If this doesn't work, you can always try again, but, its best to try and set the date sooner rather then later.

Post: #836

(07-04-2013 05:29 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Sometimes, that insta-date is a essentially your first date. After that "first date", she may or may not want to see you again. So, if you are going to insta-date, make sure you present yourself as strongly as you would on a first date, because thats what it is.

Thanks Gio, I think my approach game is decent, time to focus on first date game , had to open the books again and read Bang by Roosh. Key points I got was

1. Relax , take it easy and go with the get to know each other conversation.

2. Physical escalation as far as possible with Goal to Bang and atleast Kiss the Girl by the end of the date one.

3. Use Staring game, Hair Stroke , walking hand in hand , proximity test and etc to guage if the girl is ready to be kissed.

Any Special advice for first date game ?

Post: #837

I just did an approach. I went to a park in my city. Walked around until I saw an appropriate target, a young asian girl wearing a hat and reading a Kindle. I sat near her and read stuff on my phone. At one point, she looked up, we made eye contact and smiled, and I said "hi" and she said "hi" back. Then she went head down back into her book. I just dicked around on my phone for a few minutes. A cleaning guy came by and started sweeping near our feet, so we had to lift our feet up and pay attention to what he was doing for a second. My big break. I asked her about her Kindle. "Is that one of those Kindles?? Is it good? I might get one. How do you load the books on there? Do they work on planes, etc." After that played out, we ended up shooting the shit about everything. She is quite a bit younger than me. I'm 48. She's a student, I think in grad school. I'd say around 25. Not too bad, maybe a 6, but her English was a little too broken, and her teeth were a little jacked up. As things were winding down, I decided not to ask for her number. But then she asked if we could exchange numbers. I got her number and sent her a text right there so she would have mine. We hugged and she said to contact her when I am back from my vacation, we should hang out. I said ok. When I got home I had a text from her saying how she enjoyed talking to me.

Post: #838

Background:
Harem collapse recently, only regular left town for good. Square one, and been looking for a new job so morale has been low and time has been tight. I'm feeling like singing the Summer Blues. Hadn't showered in a day, hadn't shaved in 3. Looked mediocre myself, clothes were clean at least!

Approach:
Grocery store parking lot in a strip mall, right before I get in the car I see a 7.5-8 dark skinned Asian girl comes out of the grocery store 40 yards away. My dick goes on red alert and tells my brain to get my phone out and open the New Contact screen. This happened on instinct, like a honey badger's reflex to a cobra strike. Magically this fine piece of ass strolls not just in my direction, but down my car's lane. I thank the heavens I do not have to do a K-9 police dog chase-down-tackle approach. As she is about to saunter by in a tight black summer dress with a short skirt and long long flowing silk hair I ask her the most interesting question in the world:

"Excuse me, do you know where the barber shop is in the strip mall? I'm new here (lie). I think it could be here, not sure. Do you know? "(elderly tonation) *waving my hand around high in the air aimlessly like I couldn't navigate a fucking strip mall*

First thing out of this lovely thing's mouth is nothing but the King's English shattered into pieces and scotched taped back together with a righteous thick Asian accent. My dick wants to do a cartwheel. No American attitude, completely helpful, cheerful, joking, and asking me personal questions almost immediately.

When I gave her my phone to put the number in she wanted to make sure if she needed to put a 1 in front of the number or not to make sure it works.

Told her she was a liar if I didn't find the barbershop where she said it would be as I got into my car, she laughed.

Lessons Learned/Reinforced:
Well I was not nearly looking or feeling my best, but pushing myself to do it anyway works. Hot girls during the day can be amazingly open and friendly because they have no anti slut defense or bitch shield up. Seeing a girl as very attractive, sober, in broad daylight makes a number crunch and hopeful follow up bang much more satisfying than a drunken raging night game number close, follow up bang for me. Maybe it is something in my head telling me in the day she is more attracted to just me and not the party scene and energy that is half the attraction? As I do more day game I think I would rather be a knockout day gamer than night gamer. I also have come to see day gaming as more a lazy man's approach as it just becomes part of your daily routine. Doing it right at night is a master plan in lock down and logistics... I do like that challenge.

Post: #839

(07-04-2013 05:29 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If you create momentum, don't let the momentum die down. Set a date within the first 48-72 hours.

If this doesn't work, you can always try again, but, its best to try and set the date sooner rather then later.

I really agree with this, setting a date sooner than later. Also Roosh had mentioned at one point recently he texts the girls within 20 minutes after getting their number to combat their ADD and solidify the connection a little more directly after the approach, if it is a number crunch that is. That momentum dies to ADD faster and faster.

Post: #840

How would you guys approach a girl on a busy bus/train if you only had a couple of stops to get off because she gets on towards the end of your journey? A quick direct compliment to declare your interest then try and number close to continue the conversation?

Post: #841

(07-04-2013 07:39 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Any Special advice for first date game ?

Keep it simple.

Cocktails are best. Coffee is ok. A light snack is good. I like to keep it close to campus to I spend the minimum amount of time, money, and energy.

Just build comfort and connection.

(07-15-2013 01:26 PM)Cho Wrote:  How would you guys approach a girl on a busy bus/train if you only had a couple of stops to get off because she gets on towards the end of your journey? A quick direct compliment to declare your interest then try and number close to continue the conversation?

Yes, That sounds fine.

But, don't "try and number close to continue the conversation".

First, compliment her in a non needy way, then continue the conversation, then try to number close.

Or, if you see her alot, you can strike up a conversation on Monday, have another chat with her on Thursday, and then try to number close the following Wednesday. You can break up the process into sections, you don't have to do everything in the first 5 minutes.

You might want to start with a Situational Opener.

Post: #842

Ok, I'm extremely new at this, so I consider today a huge step forward even though I don't think I plowed enough.

Was at the pool, it's an outside pool at a popular gym, basically tons of young, hot, college girls come here to work on their tans, and probably to hopefully get hit on by some sexy men such as myself.

I notice a gorgeous black haired girl in a black 2 piece sitting near me at the pool. She basically has the body of a porn star, nice tanned skin, long black hair, huge natural tits, and a pert ass. I hit the pool and swim around for a while, she walks up to a platform with her friend and they lay out towels. My stuff happens to be near them, so when I'm ready to leave I towel off, walk around to the stairs, and walk up to the level they are on. I approach her and her almost as hot blonde friend. This is closest I remember to the exchange:

KeepMovingForward: Excuse me, how good is your English?
PornStarLooks: It's good.
KeepMovingForward: I don't normally do this, but I'm about to leave and I would feel stupid if I didn't come up and talk to you cause I think you're pretty cute.
PornStarLooks: Thanks! (slight giggling and quick glance between the two girls)
KeepMovingForward: You look Quebecois.
PornStarLooks: Really?
KeepMovingForward: Yes. It's the dark skin and the black hair.
PornStarLooks: I didn't know they had a look.
KeepMovingForward: Yeah, that's the stereotype I heard only being here a month (trying to bait out the where are you from)
PornStarLooks: Where are you from? ( it worked!)
KeepMovingForward: Originally from (place), but I've been living in (other place) the past 3 years.
PornStarLooks: What's your name? ( I can't remember if I initiated this or she did, but if she did then I definitely should have kept going)
KeepMovingForward: KeepMovingForward (reach out for handshake)
PornStarLooks: Kat.
KeepMovingForward: So that's Russian.
PornStarLooks: Yes!
KeepMovingForward: So you're Russian then.
PornStarLooks: No no, I'm originally from (forgot where she said, I think nerves were getting to me at this point)
KeepMovingForward: Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude to you. You are? (to blonde friend)
Blonde Friend: It's ok. I'm Julia.
KeepMovingForward: Julianne.
Blonde Friend: Julia! (she giggled, looked pretty amused)
KeepMovingForward: Got it, nice to meet you. You two are students? (Named a college in town here)
PornStarLooks: (both girls laugh) No, we're professionals.

(At this point in my head I was thinking porn or stippers.)

I stumbled here and couldn't really think of anything to follow up with, I felt I didn't have enough rapport or attraction to ask what they did, and I didn't want the conversation to feel like an interview.

PornStarLooks: Well KeepMovingForward, it was nice meeting you (getting politely blown out).

I smiled, but inside I was frustrated.

KeepMovingForward: You too.

I smiled and walked away here.

PornStarLooks: Have a nice day, Chase!

Just smiled and left.

Ok, things I did right:
1. Approached a girl who is exactly my type and made me very horny just looking at her.
2. Held a conversation for 2 minutes- a decent start.
3. Held decent eye contact- I think my eye contact was illiciting some of the smiles and giggles I got from the girls.
4. Illicited a personal question- the bait worked, and the girl asked where I was from. This was at least a slight positive indicator, as the girl wasn't completely shutting me down.

Things I need to work on/did wrong:
1. Body Language- I felt I was shifting my weight too much and basically appeared uncomfortable. Of course I was, but the goal is to master the microbehaviors until I legitimately feel comfortable and confident in the presence of gorgeous women.

2. Voice/Pace: Most of the time my voice was deep and pleasant, but I realize whenever I asked a question my voice would rise and be seeking rapport too much. Also, I stumbled and mumbled a few times, which are habits that have to be corrected.

3. Leading: I think my subcommunication was that I didn't know what I was doing, and I expected the girls to contribute too much at the beginning before sufficient attraction and rapport had been created. Basically, I needed to ramble a lot more and talk a lot more and pounce on any topics the girls gave me.

4.Style: The approach was just very vanilla overall, very little panache or creativity. I don't mind doing a boring exchange as long as I'm hitting all the fundamentals correctly (body language, voice, subcommunications, etc.)

5. Giving up: I definitely needed to plough this set. I was super attracted to this girl, and she wasn't giving me any red lights, just yellow. When she told me to have a nice day it was because I appeared to have run out of things to say, and probably also my body language said "I give up, that's all I got."

Sorry for the novel, but I was excited that I finally grabbed my balls and took a chance today with a girl who, in my eyes, is top shelf physically. I have a strong urge to master this area of my life; each day I'm not making progress and taking chances with women is a day I live with regret.

Post: #843

I was approaching a lot yesterday, let me break down one of the approaches for now before i hit the gym.

Me and a friend walk into Macdonals, see this hot mixed race cashier..we like fuck it..lets go to that till.

Target: "hi, what would you like for today"
Me: Chicken Bacon Burger
Target: ''The meal?''
Me: hmmm not even sure.....hmmm (give her that playbook look)
We both laugh
Me: Sorry im losing words, i cant stop staring at you, you are distracting me.. but yeah give me the meal
Target: Laughs even louder and comes back to give me the meal
Me:You from around here?
Target: yeah i live around here
Me: i just moved around east london, i think you look really cute.. i would love to hang out with you one of these days..you got a number?
Target: i dont know my number by heart but you can take my facebook
Me: I write down facebook..
I know i said more two or three fun lines after that and left.. we both eye fucked each other hard as i was leaving.

Lets see what happens.

By the way..a quick tip. Everytime you guys see a girl walking down the street, try to stop her with authority..example: "excuseme, just stop there for one sec (point her to stop as you tell her to stop). I used that line the whole day yesterday and there was no one single girl that didn't stop. Try that approach and let me know how it goes.

Remember, you must say it in a confident way and try sound serious and professional as you say it (try use a good voice tone as you say this). But when you start talking to her you want to give a her a more fun vibe but as you tell her to stop, look somewhat serious.

Post: #844

Post: #845

'Nice Shoes' may have gotten me laid more than any other opener by far.

Post: #846

(07-20-2013 09:39 PM)horn Wrote:  'Nice Shoes' may have gotten me laid more than any other opener by far.

Horn Spend some time on typing up some of those approaches buddy, we all might learn something.

Post: #847

(07-20-2013 09:39 PM)horn Wrote:  'Nice Shoes' may have gotten me laid more than any other opener by far.

I have to implement that line more often. I dropped something similar today on a MILFY waitress, after she opened me with a cutesy nickname.

Post: #848

I went out with a forum member who is trying to improve his day game.

I had a rough day. 0-7.

Here are a few of them:

1) I drop off the forum member at a cafe, I go park my car. I see a cute Latina face in the car next to me. I walk around the other side of my car and pretend that I'm locking up my car.. I just wanted to get a better look at her and give myself a chance to open her.. She is pretty but I can't see her body because she is sitting in her car.. I walk over to her side, "lock" my car, and then pretend that I just noticed her... She was eating a salad..

me: hey hows it going?
her: pretty good
me: whats for lunch?
her: oh just a salad
me: that looks good
her: its ok
me: from trader joes?
her: ya
me: there aren't a lot of good options around here
her: i know
me: the mall only has one good place and this shopping center only has one place
her: whats good in the mall?
me: i only like the Korean BBQ place, its pretty fresh. In this shopping center, the Mexican place is ok
her: hmmm interesting..
me: do you ever go out to eat around here?
her: well, i don't live in this neighborhood.
me: oh, you don't, where do you live?
her: outer richmond
me: oh, what are you doing all the way out here?
her: i come to do my laundry
me: aren't there any laundromats in your hood?
her: ya but i don't like them

Blah, blah, blah.. We chat for a little while longer, I like how things are going. I'm just about ready to ask her if she wants to continue our chat sometime. She steps out of the car, she is chubby. Fuuuucccckkk! Next!

*****

2) We are in the mall. I see a cute half White/half Asian girl walking by herself right past us in the opposite direction. I don't hesitate...

me: excuse me
her: yes
me: you look nice today
her: thank you
me: whats your name?
her: stefanie
me: im gio, nice to meet you
her: hello
me: you have a unique look, are you mixed?
her: yes
me: with what?
her: chinese and white
me: oh, cool
her: thanks
me: guess what I am..
her: chinese and white
me: haha, good guess, i wish. spanish and french
her: oh okay
me: hey, i've gotta run right now but would you be interested in hanging out sometime, maybe get a beer or something?
her: oh no thanks, i have a boyfriend

Next.

*****

3) We are in Trader Joes. I see a decent White girl. Tall, thin, blond. 7ish

She is walking right towards us. I purposely get in her way and talk loud so she will have no choice but to notice me. This is my way of introducing myself to her before I approach.

A few minutes later, she walks right past us again, we glance at each other. I love this pre-approach eye contact and proximity.

A few minutes later, I see her standing in line, the very last person in line.

I smile, relax my vibe and move in a relaxed manner, not in a rush. I approach her from the side.

me: excuse me
her: yes
me: hey i know this is totally random but i wanted to come introduce myself, you look really nice today, my name is gio
her: im flattered but i have a bf

Next!

*****

4) We are walking into Whole Foods. I see a cute, athletic white girl loading up her car. She has on a nice pair of unique running shoes..

me: hey i like your New Balances
her: thanks
me: those are comfortable, aren't they?
her: yup these are great shoes
me: i haven't seen them in that style before, are those custm made?
her: ha no, i found these in a running store
me: are you a tri-athlete?
her: no
me: how do you stay in such great shape?
her: a little of everything
me: yoga?
her: not so much anymore, i hurt my shoulder doing it
me: i bet you have a great diet
her: its okay
me: we should hang out sometime?

Her phone was rang.

her: thats my husband
me: take care

*****

5) We are about to leave Whole Foods. I see a hot russian leaving. I follow her onto the elevator.. She is wearing red, white, and blue American flag shoes..

me: cool shoes
her: thank you
me: i used to have a jacket just like that
her: oh really
me: ya with the stars up here and the stripes going across like this
her: ooh
me: are those Toms?
her: yes, actually they are boys shoes, can you tell?
me: yes, i can tell
her: really?
me: no, im kidding, they are uni-sex?
her: oh haha

The elevator goes down one floor.

me: don't worry no one will notice
her: ok
me: you have an accent, where are you from?
her: im from wrussia
me: oh cool, how long have you been here?
her: 4 years
me: you like
her: i love it
me: whats your name?
her: katya (or something like that)
me: im gio
her: itailian name?
me: no, im american and spanish
her: oh
me: hey, um, wanna exchange numbers, maybe get a beer sometime?
her: no thank you

I'm a little rusty.

Post: #849

(07-23-2013 03:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I went out with a forum member who is trying to improve his day game.

I had a rough day. 0-7.

Here are a few of them:

...

I'm a little rusty.

It's amazing that even someone as dedicated at daygame as you strikes out hard some days. Just goes to show that perseverance is critical.

Respect for being honest

Post: #850

Thanks for sharing! I hope this didnt discourage your friend but just gave him perspective of day game reality. No matter how good you are its still a number game. Not every girl will be interested in you In fact, most will not. But every now and then you find a girl that will love your approach. Its important to keep it realistic though to avoid dissapointment.