Post: #701

(05-04-2013 05:31 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I think even a stripper wants a tiny bit of companionship or decent sex once in awhile.
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+1. Some guys could state that one of the cardinal rules of a stripper is to NEVER to date a guy they met at a club, but I couldn't disagree more. I've had adventures with strippers in Romania, in Russia, in Uzbekistan and in Moldova. Many opportunities with strippers in FSU, as long as you treat them nicely and respectfully and you show some empathy, self-restraint and personal attention ..... those girls deal night after night with boorish sex-weaned guys, and are usually happy to find someone who don't treat them like pieces of meat. Many (at least in FSU) are just girls with honest feelings, emotions, goals and reactions. With them, you need to develop other skills than the simple fact of having money. Intelligence, empathy, charm, wit, cultural awereness, ect come to mind.

It's one of my favorite target groups. Furthermore, having a stripper as a regular "fuck-buddy" is a very good position in that even if you go to chase in clubs or have a date and say don't get any success that night, you always have your stripper to fall back on in the morning.

I remember a stripper I scored in Chisinau. She would get off of work at 5am, sent a sms to see if I was still awake (and alone), and if I was, would go to my apartment, down one beer or two, talk a bit, bang me, sleep till noon, have sex again, and then leave. No questions asked, no materialistic expectations, save sometimes a few drinks before her work at 7pm. Talk about a nice situation. It lasted more than one month, until I leave. And without bragging, she was the cutest of the club - my komrade Zippy from "another forum" can testify.

Also, in FSU, those girls usually live in crappy tiny appartments with other girls or with their family (often parents, sister, brother in law and nevew), so it is almost a humanitarian gest to offer them a nice accommodation for the night. (smilie)

A stripper from the most upscale strip club in Piter (Saint Pitersburg) who became a long-term GF, here in my place in Paris (as a side note, she earns A LOT of money and extensively travels, on her own account):

Post: #702

I will say it makes a huge difference between getting a girls number who is giving you massive IOI's and winning a girl over when she is indifferent towards you. Earlier in this thread I talked about an interaction with a 9 where the date was going really bad and I could have given up and taken her home but instead bounced to another bar and won her over. I think that had a big impact on me.

Went 3/4 on getting numbers last night but they were all girls that I was just having standard conversation with that I ended up winning over instead of a drunken slut tossing herself at me. Had a really cute 35 year old with huge tits giving me a shoulder massage who just got off work (she was not drinking) who I dropped off 2 blocks from where my house was, really disappointed I wasn't more aggressive here but I got a kiss and her number.

My nuts are starting to drop. Compared to the night where I got a BJ and 2 lays in the span of a few hours, last night felt a lot better then that even though I didn't get laid. I am starting to make my own situations happen instead of having layups tossed at me

went to hamburger joint and saw cute girl at window just now:

<she hands me my stuff>
me: by the way <pause>
her: ya?
me: i think your really cute
her: <huge smile>
me: how do you feel about that
her: its ok I guess
me: Good. Toss me your number.

Drove home and saw 2 neighbors in front on their sidewalk. Slowly turned into my driveway while staring them down. Both smiled. I didn't have the balls to walk over there. One day I will though.

Post: #703

Turns out that I ended up hanging out with Kay for every weekend night (along with friends/my other plans) this week including the hot tub Sunday night. She stayed over Fri/Sat nights too and I was pretty okay with it.

TLDR; Spotted a latin lady, hottest girl of the party, introduced myself and thought she was gone, eventually spotted her again, made it happen since I had to leave, then left and took the girl I'm dating to another couple spots and finally got my nut off with her.

Long version:
Saturday I had a Cinco de Mayo party at a neighbors about 10 blocks away that my friend (just friend) Elle had invited me to, so we picked up my neighbor's not-quite-right son, threw their skateboards in my car and drove over (I had plans afterwards). We arrived and the party was already going strong. I threw my 18-pack of beer in their huge cooler but it was real low on ice so Elle and I headed downstairs to walk to the liquor store to buy more.

On the way down the stairs I nearly ran into a gorgeous latin girl in a long flowing turquoise summer dress. Petite, but with a latin ass bumping through the summer dress. She followed me down the stairs as I chatted her up super quickly and introduced myself but then had to head over to get ice. I figured I'd see her again but as I walked down the street I noticed she was headed off. I figured if she comes back, she comes back, or maybe someone at the party knows her.

I come back with ice, throw my tri-tip on the grill, and get a cutting board and knife washed to slice it up once it's done, check on the neighbor's son and pop my first beer while I start socializing. I'm having a good time, but I'm keeping my eyes open for turquoise dress. I grill up my tri-tip, pull it off, and slice it up, then make and eat some really tasty tacos with it and a side of mexican rice and beans that hits the spot.

I don't see her anywhere, so I ask the two guys that are throwing the party to see if they know. Sure enough, it's one of their coworkers but she appears to have left the party. The posole shows up (really good mexican soup), but I'm a little bummed because I have to leave so I'm not going to get any soup, nor the latin chick in the turqoise dress. Just then, I spot her. She's making herself a beer with clamato in it and lime. She said it's the only way she can drink beer as I re-engage her.

I stay for just a few more minutes, building some rapport, then she leaves to talk to her friend about whatever so I take the opportunity to go piss and tell my new friends (party hosts) and Elle that they need to watch my neighbor's son as he's getting hammered as fuck and hitting on all the girls along with dry-humping the donkey pinata. I really have to leave now, so I go into the bedroom that the girls are talking in and it just so happens the friend gets up and I sit down.

<AO> Hey, it was nice to meet you and we didn't get to chat long, but I've got to get out of here as I have to go to a wine tasting...
<Turquoise> A wine tasting, where?
<AO> Friend hosting at another friend's house.
<Turquoise> Blah blah blah
<AO> So like I was saying I really have to go but I want to take your number [phone in between us, unlocked and at the dial pad]
<Turquoise> Really, but you know I live in [town at least an hour drive away]
<AO> Yeah
<Turquoise> Reaches for phone to put her number in.
<AO's Phone> *COCKBLOCK* [locks itself]
<Turquoise> *Hands phone to AO*
<AO> *unlocks phone* [Fuck you phone!]
<Turquoise> *Enters number*

And then I stand up, give her my hand to stand her up, give her a kiss on each cheek (which she incorrectly misinterpreted the 2nd kiss as an attempt to go straight on...which I corrected her on), and leave her with a smile on her face.

Not sure if I'll call her though. I suppose I can find out when she'll be in my area next, but summer is coming and there's so many girls that will be in closer reach. She's my age which is usually older than I date, but her body type is right up my alley. We'll see.

My neighbor's not-quite-right son got proper fucked on shots and beer, tried to ride his skateboard home after Elle cut him off, and did a banana-peel cartoon slip that the whole party could see from the deck and landed right on his brand new iphone 5, spidering the screen like crazy.

Went to the wine tasting with Kay, hung out with her and her friends afterwards at a new spot, took her home and finally got my nut off with her, even though it was kind of a shitty performance. Good night overall!

(05-04-2013 03:12 PM)jakester318 Wrote:  Walked into the Starbucks near where I work and settled into the queue behind a really attractive brunette (maybe a 7.5 or 8).

(interaction)

I'm pretty sure I'll see her again but would you have asked for her number and escalated the interaction?

Yes, you should've asked her for her number or handed her your phone to put it in. Making plans or at least discussing talking to her more/hanging out with her prior to this is a good lead-in.

Post: #704

Jaylow, you make me wanna be a cabbie.

Post: #705

(05-06-2013 07:23 PM)MattC Wrote:  Jaylow, you make me wanna be a cabbie.

I only work fri and sat nights now. I make probably $200-250 total in those 2 nights working 12-14 hours. It would be a lot better in a bigger city in terms of making cash and having more time to talk to the girl(s) since the average distance would be much further to cab. The downside would be greater distance means meeting less people but in a big city you could work a tues night and make over $100 easily where in my 125k population city I would probably make $50 on a tues night.

People like you would be pulling way more numbers and getting fucked every night, I can promise you that. I rather be doing this than wasting money and hanging around Dbags in a bar on a fri night. I am getting paid decent money to talk to girls basically. This is the only job Ive enjoyed in my entire life, will prob be doing this until the day I die.

Post: #706

I did my first two approaches today, both of which ended very quickly.

Approach #1. Was at the university, sat down in an open break area to review some material before class. The sun was right behind me, which was uncomfortable and making it difficult to read. Looked around, saw a girl sitting by herself—young, very thin, nice rack, OK face. She was sitting in the shade, and there was an open seat next to her. I resolved to make an attempt.

I move to the open seat next to her
me: It's sure nicer out of the sun.
her: Yeah. slight smile
I notice she is reading some stapled printed papers
me: Is that an interesting paper?
her: No, not really.

...and that's how it ended. I returned to my material and the interaction died. She didn't seem receptive, which dissuaded me from continuing. In retrospect, I should have continued the interaction at least slightly longer to have been more certain of her openness.

Approach #2

After class, I impulsively decided to try and find another approach, since my first approach was so brief. I wandered around campus, a few stores, and into a coffee shop. I got lucky and a plausible target got behind me in line at the coffee shop.

The woman in front of me had a long multidrink order; in retrospect, I think I should have started the approach while we were waiting. Instead, I waited for my order (black coffee), took my drink, sat down at a table, and pretended to mess with my phone. The target was waiting for her drink a few feet away.

I hesitated, stealing a covert glance to see if she had any personal effects I could elderly chat on. I saw nothing. Figuring any approach was better than no approach, I got up, walked over to her, and initiated this masterpiece:

me: What did you order? [too personal?]
her: Oh... a cappuccino.
me: Hmm, I don't really know a lot about coffee shop drinks. What kind of drink is a cappuccino?
her: Well, it like coffee and green tea...
me: So, it's coffee and green tea in a single drink?
her: Yeah, it's kind of a blend.

At this point, I should have attempted to ramble on either coffee or tea. I did neither. Instead, I resorted to... the personal question!

me: I see. Do you ever drink green tea by itself?
her: [I forget her answer.]
me: Hmm. Well, thanks, I'll have to try it [a cappuccino] some time.
her: Yeah.

...and then I walked out of the coffee shop. The conversation was too awkward to salvage.

I realize this is a long post for two short amateurish approaches, but it helps to dissect them like this. From humble beginnings...

Post: #707

I'm having significantly better luck with direct approaches lately. Could be that my intent is just coming across better.. with indirect, I get a lot of flakes, a lot of numbers from girls with boyfriends who aren't interested, a lot of numbers that just go nowhere at all.

With direct game, I've had 3 rejections and the other 3 I'm setting up dates with. Straight up, no time wasted pursuing uninterested numbers...

Anyways, two of the better ones;
Coffee shop, opened the cutest girl with a good opportunity (she had a light-up necklace, pointed to it with a curious look, shrugged, made a few gestures for her to explain and gave her a thumbs up - all non-verbal), we were about 12 feet apart. Asked her friend who was just a few feet away waiting on a drink, about what the big outing was. Found out the girl I non-verbally opened was getting married, and the girl I was speaking to, it was her birthday. There were another 6 cuties in the group, kind of a nice group there. Spoke to her for a few minutes, went personal very quickly, her body language was good, and went direct with "Look, you're cute - I'd like to get to know you better. You down?" She shyly agreed, gave me her number.

Say whatever on it, but I've been dating religious girls lately (I live in Kansas), so I figured it'd help if I knew a bit more about it and took a morning to go out to a church the day after for a service. Turns out she was there, and it was her first time at the church, too. Weird coincidence - spontaneous on my part, so no way she or anyone else knew. Then she pops into the starbucks I work at in the evening. Weird as heck. Date tomorrow w/ her, drinks and pool.

Server at buffalo wild wings came to my starbucks, opened her, teased her a bit, flirted/etc. She was pretty responsive to it. Told me I should stop by. She came by again today, we talked more, I said we should do a deal, I get free wings, she gets free coffee. She mentioned one of the jokes I told yesterday. Since I was at work, I don't like trying to close girls while I'm at work. Managers get annoyed, potential for weirdness, etc. She told me she was closing that night. I had planned on taking a few buddies over, backup wingmen for potential awkwardness, but they bailed... but I wasn't going to miss the chance, so I went alone, got me some wings, pulled her aside for a few minutes, was direct with "So, you're cute, you seem like a pretty cool girl, I'd like to get to know you outside the work environment. You know, the whole I buy from you, you buy from me, that thing." She replied "Yeah, it it is a bit of a capitalist thing here.." I said "So, you interested?" She gave a pretty emphatic yes. Got her number. Real cute girl.

My lessons learned lately are that the attitude counts for a lot... cool, collected confidence, projected, genuinely, dressing fairly well, taking care of myself and my looks, a distinct lack of anxiety, count for so much. And of course the balls to just go to her workplace, chance the awkwardness, and ask her out. I was debating on it, as it could be awkward to show up, ask her out, and then find she's got a boyfriend.

Post: #708

(05-07-2013 12:55 AM)Plutoman Wrote:  My lessons learned lately are that the attitude counts for a lot... cool, collected confidence, projected, genuinely, dressing fairly well, taking care of myself and my looks, a distinct lack of anxiety, count for so much. And of course the balls to just go to her workplace, chance the awkwardness, and ask her out. I was debating on it, as it would not be awkward to show up, ask her out, and then find she's got a boyfriend if I played it off like no big deal and eventually added her to my social circle and picked up her cute single friends.

I fixed that for you.

Post: #709

(04-25-2013 10:35 AM)gandt Wrote:  Morning Approach:

Girl passes by on corner. I speed up and stop her from the side with a smile.

Me: "excuse me, do you have a sec?"

Her: "yeah what's up?"

Me: "To be honest I'm very hungover right now so forgive me if im not making sense... but I just thought you looked very nice and wanted to meet you"... "what's your name?"

Her: "I'm Roosh"

Me: "Nice to meet you"... "what are you up to right now?"

Her: "just on my way to school"

Me: "interesting, i didnt know there were any schools in the area!"

Her: "yeah its just up over there... It's a drama school"

Me: "Drama! now that's interesting. so what kind of acting to you do?"

Her: *rambling on about school... "but hey i have to get to class actually"

Me: "yeah no problem i need to get to work to"... "i know we just met but do you want to grab a coffee sometime?"

Her: "I would for sure but I actually have a boyfriend"

Me: "no prob. It was really nice meeting you anyway"

Wow! This has happened to me about a million times!

But, seriously, this has happened to me like 1,500 times.

This is how you learn. JUST KEEP APPROACHING WITH CONFIDENCE AND FLAIR!

"Flair" is dressing cool, speaking with charisma, radiating fun energy, and having relaxed yet strong body language.

These little things make a big difference.

(05-02-2013 10:54 PM)ballsyamog Wrote:  Did my very first day approach today. (Trying out the one approach a day by roosh). It was pretty bad.

Me: Excuse me, I just saw you over there and I thought you were cute

Her: thank you (big smile)

Me: What are you up to?

Her: On my way home

Me. Where are you from?

Her: Vancouver (starts laughing)

I couldn't think of anything. Long awkward pause

Her: btw I have a boyfriend

Me: it was nice meeting you

I eject

YOUR FIRST APPROACH!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF YOUR NEW LIFE.

A life of being social, being friendly, and being talkative.

Keep it up! At least one a day!

What would Kevin Hart do?

What would Kevin Hart say?

Evolve your personality. Re-wire your brain!

That is how you change your life!

Keep working hard on this!

(05-05-2013 12:34 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  Drove home and saw 2 neighbors in front on their sidewalk. Slowly turned into my driveway while staring them down. Both smiled. I didn't have the balls to walk over there. One day I will though.

They were both smiling at you?

That is a girls way of opening you. Just smile and roll down the window and say -- "hey girls, whats up with you guys tonight". Something like that..?

We have to approach the girls who smile at us.

(05-05-2013 12:34 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  Had a really cute 35 year old with huge tits giving me a shoulder massage who just got off work (she was not drinking) who I dropped off 2 blocks from where my house was, really disappointed I wasn't more aggressive here but I got a kiss and her number.

Damn. Getting a shoulder massage 2 blocks from your house. Sounds like you could have probably gotten her back home.

You might try being a bit more aggressive. "Push the envelope", just for fun and to see what happens..

Post: #710

(05-07-2013 12:58 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 12:55 AM)Plutoman Wrote:  My lessons learned lately are that the attitude counts for a lot... cool, collected confidence, projected, genuinely, dressing fairly well, taking care of myself and my looks, a distinct lack of anxiety, count for so much. And of course the balls to just go to her workplace, chance the awkwardness, and ask her out. I was debating on it, as it would not be awkward to show up, ask her out, and then find she's got a boyfriend if I played it off like no big deal and eventually added her to my social circle and picked up her cute single friends.

I fixed that for you.

True 'dat. Though I avoid having too many female friends... it's just weird. Either I want to bang them or they want to date me. Or they're horribly feminist. Haven't had any other scenarios besides those across my life. Probably not a bad angle to work... but it seems like a lot of extra effort to befriend a girl to pick up her friends when there's dozens of girls all around on campus and etc.

Maybe that's just me and my avoidance of social circles, though. I've got a small clique of guys I'm friends with, I've never felt all that comfortable in a larger social group.

Post: #711

(05-07-2013 02:27 PM)Plutoman Wrote:  True 'dat. Though I avoid having too many female friends... it's just weird. Either I want to bang them or they want to date me. Or they're horribly feminist. Haven't had any other scenarios besides those across my life. Probably not a bad angle to work... but it seems like a lot of extra effort to befriend a girl to pick up her friends when there's dozens of girls all around on campus and etc.

Maybe that's just me and my avoidance of social circles, though. I've got a small clique of guys I'm friends with, I've never felt all that comfortable in a larger social group.

That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that some of the best things in life you discover by going outside your comfort zone. Also, imagine that you're done with school, there's a DEARTH of cute girls in your life compared to now. How much would you wish that you'd built up a decent network of female friends or at least social groups that include girls so that you have easier access to cute girls? I'm not talking about having them as very close friends (you're not going to have a ton of these as really quality/trustworthy people are harder to come by), but expanding your social network is key while you have one of the best opportunities to do so and gain experience with.

Learning to socialize with lots of people is part of networking, and networking is one of the absolutely most powerful tools in life.

Post: #712

This is true - I don't fault your points - but I'm also the 21 y/o guy picking up the corporate crowd down at the bars. Just recently was dating a 29 y/o with a masters making 70k a year... still going to give her a call, I would love to keep dating her, but I'm not going to get hung up on one girl. I've made most of my pick-ups locally - I live 45mins from campus - with girls from 17 to 30.

As I see it, right now 80% of my experience has been with the girls I'll be dealing with when I'm out of college (two of my close friends are 32 and 37, that I go out with often). From the amount of times I get disqualified by my age (had a 32 y/o going for a bit... until she asked me my age, and after a back and forth, I tell her, she goes "OH SHIT"), it's only going to get easier when I'm older, have my own place (still living with my parents!), etc. I'm more concerned with self-improvement versus just meeting cute girls. Just have to hit the local areas to meet the latter - there's no way around the work for the former.

Anyways, I don't want to derail the thread at all. I've been cruising around SoSuave for a while and am not all that new to the scene, though I'm new to Roosh's forums. Feel free to PM me if you want any discussion on it!

You've quoted one of my friend's lines, too - you only grow outside your comfort zone. With that in mind, I'll give some social networking a try this summer with girls and see how it pans out. If only I could avoid facebook doing that...

Post: #713

Posted close to a bar, I noticed a chick going around getting guys to buy her drinks and then slithering away shortly thereafter looking for her next free drink. She came up to me and started flirting, so I decided to play along and go with her to the bar. She told me "A G & T would be so good right now" so i replied "it sure would." and just looked at her and then straight ahead. I didn't say much else then and she, seeing she wasn't going to get a drink, moved on.

I saw another girl as I was there holding my drink posted not to far from me who seemed to want someone to approach her. She was with a group of friends, and I went between them and started talking to her. She told me something about pole dancing, and showed me some bruises to prove to me she pole danced, and (i guess because i didn't give a shit, and i wanted to see how how far I could push it) I said, "do you have bruises around your vulva as well? This didn't go well with her, but I didn't really care, because right when she left (giving me a face of disgust lol) the G&T girl came back and asked me to buy her a G&T again. I said, "i'm not buying you a drink. I saw you do that with other guys and I know what you're up to." and looked away and started chatting to my friend. She went to my ear and said "I'm not like that" and stayed there and then asked me if I had a light. I did, and seeing the way she spoke into my ear i felt maybe it wasn't a bad idea to walk and smoke a cigarette with her. As we were heading out these two dudes came up to us and doing their maneuvering separated us. I didn't mind because my spidey senses told me she'd rather be with me than them, I didn't bother to out-maneuver them. Not wanting to get into an argument over her, i just played it chill and let her go.

So I move on somewhere else and next thing I know she keeps coming up to me and flirting with me, so I take her outside for a cigarette and her friends come again and one guy keeps grabbing her and trying to pull her away. She tells me "stay here 10 minutes I will be back." I told her I'm not waiting 10 minutes, and that she should kiss me right now. So as the other dude is holding her hand, she has her arm around me and starts to kiss me. Here I am, with my hand around her waist, and her guy friend trying to pull her away, her arm around around my neck, and her other friend watching us, and my friend taking a pic and laughing. At this point I'm slow playing this, because it seems like this other guy is head over heels for her, and she just wants to get rid of him, so I kept telling her to get in a cab with me and go, but these two guys became really fucking annoying so I just didn't care anymore.

At this point, while I was somewhat horny and DTF, having to deal with these two idiots made the bang undesirable, so me and my friend left, but thanks to LA's 2AM last call my chances for a lay that night diminished. Oh well.

Post: #714

Quote:Here I am, with my hand around her waist, and her guy friend trying to pull her away, her arm around around my neck, and her other friend watching us, and my friend taking a pic and laughing.

We need to see this pic.

Post: #715

(05-08-2013 08:46 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

Quote:Here I am, with my hand around her waist, and her guy friend trying to pull her away, her arm around around my neck, and her other friend watching us, and my friend taking a pic and laughing.

We need to see this pic.

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Post: #716

(05-08-2013 01:06 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(05-08-2013 08:46 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

Quote:Here I am, with my hand around her waist, and her guy friend trying to pull her away, her arm around around my neck, and her other friend watching us, and my friend taking a pic and laughing.

We need to see this pic.

Post: #717

Approached a cutie studying for finals. Gave her a break, got some good conversation in, built some rapport. Just opened with "That looks like some intense studying you are doing there...". Simple, to the point, got her away from the studying, let her rant a bit, got into a discussion on her major, she started asking questions about me. That whole gig.

Gonna try and grab her in a few and do a direct close. In the meantime, study-time. One approach a day. Simple and works.

Post: #718

Another approach, closed a cute blondie, hair stylist, out at the bar. Cold sober, ofc. Don't drink much. Got her into some conversation, pulled her friend in, got a good vibe going, got my buddy in, got them to play some darts, teased the heck out of her, made her laugh, got her phone number. No actual tactics.. just being real, being confident, being fun. Taking things beyond what other guys would do, and sober, too. Got the above girl's number, too. On a roll today.

I'll get some more detail here.

Rolled into the bar, just me, bought me some wings, Dr pepper, chilled, my buddy arrived, we chatted, moved to the bar. Place had a smoking section outside on the patio, nice day outside. I opened a couple girls on the opposite side of my wing, but they were pretty anti-social. No interest in talking. Chatted with my buddy for a while on various things, asked the bartender about a bar fly who I see at the place every night I've been there (she's there 7 nights a week dropping a $100. Uhh, alcohol problem...). Cute girl, but definite issues.

A bit later in the evening, two girls came and sat down next to me, on my left side (wing was on my right). Opened her with a comment to her hair... she had blonde, with black on the bottom, definite style thing, I pointed out to her that I think her hair was dirty. She laughed a bit at that. Got a little bit of conversation, edged it out, I'd talk to my buddy, engage her in something for a few minutes, keep talking to my buddy, back and forth. Asked about her tattoo, teased her on her phone, showed her a survey on how iphone users get laid more than android.

I had to draw her friend in, to avoid a cockblock - her friend was a bit sullen, obviously it probably sucked for her - blondie was more attractive, so. Got her to smile and have a good time though. Asked them to play doubles with my buddy and I in darts - I played off the teams as them not being good, so my buddy and I will each go with one to balance the teams. My buddy tried to AMOG slightly and called the blondie for a teammate, but the other girl went over and wanted him as a teammate, so that ended that. Don't blame him for the AMOG - we can compete, it's good for us to learn, neither of us are desperate to get a girl so it's all in good male competitive fun. It's great for me -he's got 4" over me (I'm 6'2", he's 6'6"), much more built than I, I'm much more lean, so I've got to step up my game to keep up.

Got them both being a bit competitive, having fun. Played through darts, blondie and I won. 'Twas past midnight, though, so we were going to head out, and so I closed with "So hey, you're pretty cool, you're cute, you seem kinda nice.." - "Ohh, sure, kind of nice, I see how it goes" - I laughed a bit and continued "So, you mind if I ask for your number? I should be polite and all, so maybe I'll say please" (with a cocky smile). She said sure, put her number in, made a joke on how much nicer my phone is without a cracked screen (she's got a busted iphone). Good to go.

Post: #719

Nice. But dont ask for her number. Demand it from her. Guys here have started to use the "put your number in my phone" line.

Post: #720

(05-09-2013 07:45 AM)NY Digital Wrote:  Nice. But dont ask for her number. Demand it from her. Guys here have started to use the "put your number in my phone" line.

And it works an absolute treat.

Post: #721

Here's some mixed thoughts on it.

I'm not asking for a phone number - I am querying her for interest. By saying "put your number in my phone", she's now able to put off the decision of interest. I ask for her to acknowledge it there or get out. I want her to think about her own interest while the state is high, while she's been with me, thinking about me, versus making a decision about interest a couple days later when I call her.

I'll put out the possibility that my body language has significantly improved since then - and I'm conveying a much more dominant position - but in regards to success rate to a few months back, it's been a dramatic improvement right now. Kansas City is weird - I've got a 75% chance that a girl I game is hardcore religious.

My standard has been - "So, hey, I'm going to be blunt here - you're cute, you seem like a nice girl { this is fun to use on girls }, I'd like to get to know you better than a quick conversation here." followed by "Interested?", or "Give me your number and I'll get in touch.". Occasionally I vary it up depending on the conversation, but it'll be similar. The one above was partially an inside joke reference where I jokingly tried to be polite to her. I busted her balls like crazy the whole time we talked/played darts. It was really one of my better pick-ups, too... outdid my wingman, who's 6'6", pretty built, girls approach him. I'm a good looking guy, but I'm 6'2" and 165 pounds. So the fact that I was able to step up my game over the top of my buddy (it's good bro competition - neither of us are desperate or anything), was great.

Coffee shop girl's close went like this (she came over to tell me about something she found out on the phone before she headed out):
"So, I'm going to be weird for a moment here" (w/ a smile, very relaxed)
"You're going to ask me for my number, aren't you?"
"Yep, gonna give it?"
"Well... I guess you seem somewhat nice. I'm going to warn you, if you or anyone else is mean to me though I stop talking and I won't answer."
"You know, I don't like talking to bitchy girls, so I can understand that feeling."
-- segued into her saying don't get in touch before her finals are done, to which I just smiled and said cool.

Key point of that one was not acknowledging or saying I'm a nice guy, but neatly dodging around while simultaneously understanding her position.

Post: #722

Yeah, there's no wrong or right in pick up if it works. It all depends on what you're comfortable with and what your style is. Steve Jabba for example out right asks a girl sometimes "would you be interested..." or "would you like to get to know me?" and the girls say yes. If you wrote that as advice on this forum you'd get guys shooting you down, but Steve has videos of these very lines being used and them working.

Post: #723

I was in town today and I thought I might as well man up and talk to every girl that I found attractive.

Girl 1:

It was raining outside, so I decided to go into a multi-storey bookstore and browse for something new to read. As I was walking up the stairs, a cute slim brunette with 2 bags in her hands was coming downstairs.
I quickly got in her way(as read in BANG) and said:
"Hey,hey hold on. I believe you're going down the stairs the wrong way"
Her: What?
Me: Yeah, there's a sign at the bottom of the staircase which says so
Her(getting the joke): I'm sure of it
Me: Yep. What did you buy(pointing at her bags)?
Her: bla bla about stuff for university
Me: You go to xy university here?
Her: Yes, I study law
Me: Pretty and smart, I like that.
Her(smiling): Thanks
Me: Listen, put your number in my phone(handing her the phone)
Her: What?
Me: What?
Her: I should put my number into your phone?
Me: I'll take you out this weekend
Her(smiling):Oh, it's just nobody has ever said that to me
Me: You've never been asked out before?
Her: bla bla bla
Me: Ok, I gotta run. Under what name shall I put you in my contacts?
Her: Sarah
Me: Ok. See you Sarah
Her: Bye


Girl 2:

I was shopping for a mother's day gift in a perfumery and spot this pretty blonde looking through fragrances. I pick up the most girly looking flacon and walk over to her.

Me: Hey, do you think this would suit my character? (holding up the flacon)
Her(smiling): I doubt it.
I start reading out the text on the back of the flacon
"Highlight your natural beauty with this flowery extract" or something like that
Me: That does sound a lot like me.
She starts laughing and comes closer.
Me: You have a cute laugh, I like it.
Her(blushing a bit): Thanks
Me: What's your name?
Her: Bla bla
Me: It's a pleasure to meet you bla bla(firmly shaking her hand and maintaining eye contact), I'm bla bla.
I want you to put your number into my phone, I want to take you out sometime soon.(handing her the phone)
She hesitates a bit but ultimately enters her phone number.
I say goodbye and we part ways.

I talked to some more girls but they all blew me off. One even called me a creep when I told her to put her number in my phone and told me to fuck off.(Chalk it to the game perhaps?) All in all though, today was a good day

Post: #724

How old are you mate?

Post: #725

@Matt

17 in a week