Post: #676

Lothario. Why did you give her a fake name?

Post: #677

Me and my mate did the "put your number in my phone" game on Friday. Got three numbers and a fair few rejections! It was late evening/night so girls were possibly a bit drunk so had their bitch shields up perhaps.

Post: #678

Last night I walk into a local establishment and see a dearth of talent. Only two girls worth talking to in the place, a blonde 9 and an asian 6 talking to each other at the corner of the bar. I go over and sit one seat away from them on the blondes side.

The blonde is sampling lots of wine and sending them back. I opened with "You're a picky one." and then to her friend "is she always this picky?". We bantered a bit then they went back to their conversation. I let things sit for a while and noticed that they were arguing. It was a pretty classic, logic vs. feelings type argument. The asian was stating the facts of a situation pretty clearly and the blonde was upset that her feelings weren't being validated. I re-open by pointing out the dynamic I saw going on and asking how the girls knew each other. That got us into a normal conversation that lasted for a couple of hours.

The asian was more into me than the blonde but is from out of town. She suggested that the blonde and I swap numbers because we were getting along so well. I was a little annoyed at this because I was definitely going to ask the blonde out and it stole my thunder. I ignored the suggestion for a few minutes then got the number on my own. I tried bouncing to another venue and they were down, then I went to use the bathroom and when I came out they'd decided to just go home. We hugged goodbye, the asian gave me a legit hug, the blonde gave me the shoulder hug.

I built more attraction with the asian than the blonde but hopefully there's enough there to get her out for some drinks.

Post: #679

(04-28-2013 02:56 AM)ballsyamog Wrote:  Lothario. Why did you give her a fake name?

I don't use my Real Name while game as a default, Higher chances in US for shit following me home ... Outside the country I couldn't care less.

I am usually looking for short term hit and runs and don't really reveal too much personal info which seems to work fine.

Post: #680

Dont really know where to post this so ill just leave it here.

Went on that date with the 9. I was a lot more awkward then I thought I would be. She was even more smoking hot then I remembered her. I went to give her a double kiss on the cheeks and she pulled away on the 2nd kiss on her cheek thinking I was going for her mouth I guess. Bad start 5 seconds in. First bar she sat in front of me, I tried to guide her to sit beside me and she just stopped and sat down in front of me. Annoying. I hate hot girls with their good looking tits in my line of sight. Crappy conversation, didn't really say anything I wanted to say. Bounced after an hour, she had 1 drink total. We went to get ice cream and walked a bit, even worse conversation on the walk if that was even possible. She hinted she wanted me to drive her home after we walked past the street my car was parked. FUCK THAT. Took her to a dim lighted, candle lit, really chill bar I always wanted to try out. I got another beer, she got a water with a lime. FML. I hit my stride finally, start talking about sex, doing way more kino, shes giving me a much more open bodied warm vibe. I am making her and the waitress laugh. We are sitting beside each other too on the window sill which is what I think helped me the most. We shared 3 beers after her initial water and lime.

After that I drove her home. The vibe was still really good. I never told her where I was driving her and when I turned to the direction of her street she says "look at you, taking me home like a gentleman" but it was in a tone that told me I could have fucked her if I just drove to my place I think. Gave her a kiss goodbye, she pulled me back in and makeout ensued.

I learned a lot from this date. 1) never give up unless she walks out on you 2) sitting beside her is so crucial. I really should have left the first bar a lot earlier since it was going bad, never prolong a crappy situation. I am thinking I should have a decent walk to build comfort in place of bar #1 from now on instead of risking her refuse to sit beside me. i need to get more kino in before the first place we visit. Hottest girl I ever went on a date with and I fucked up pretty bad and ended up winning her over. I am going out with a 7 on Monday, she doesn't have a chance.

Post: #681

There was a crowd street dance contest at the park last Saturday, a lot of hipster girls, few good-looking ones, went Vitalyz's.

One of the dancers (solid 7.5) was passing by me:

me: hey
girl: *gives eye contact confused* hey
me: put your number on my phone *serious face*
girl: *giggles* *looks confused* why?
me: because... i said *handing my phone to her, smirking*
girl: are you serious? *smiling*
me: yes why not?
girl: *laughs* oh my god, that never happened to me before.
me: what? you've never been given orders?
girl: no! i mean, no one ever asked my number this straight way.
me: oh that... i think you are cute
girl starts putting her phone.
me: what's your name?
girl: jessica
me: ok jessica, i will call you later sometime.
girl: were you watching the contest?
me: yeah, it's kinda boring to me, i think i am leaving, who are you with?
girl: my friend is jogging, i am by myself
me: cool, let's get bored together... come on here i have a good spot. *i grabbed her forearm and went into crowd*

isolated her and escalated touch... talked for about 30 minutes... she was really into me i can tell... she is pretty young, 17, black. Her mom called her to get her at the entrance, it was my way out too so I went with her... tried to kiss close but she didn't allow.

girl: don't you think you are been too fast?
me: what? a silly kiss doesn't hurt.
girl: right... but no... come tomorrow to a dance workshop with us.
me: where?
girl: at xxxx
me: i'll let you know

kiss on the cheek and ejected. I haven't called her yet, I was banging another chick on Sunday morning.

Post: #682

i was at the supermarket buying my food, i wanted to approach a talent but just couldn't find one approachable. I hate when I go out and can't approach one single broad. At the park lot, I saw this nice ass (7) in front of me collecting carts, I went direct/asshole, Vitalyz's again (I am finding a lot funny to do)

me: hey *from behind her*
girl: *bitch-shield confused face*
me: put your number on my phone.
girl: no...
me: stop saying that, just put your number on my phone and i will call you later
girl: i'm married.
me: phone numbers don't hurt
girl: yes they do *ironic smile*
me: is he violent? *smirk*
girl takes some time to get my joke
girl: oh you're full of shit, i'm married. *walks away*

I got in my car, one approach, fuck yeah

Post: #683

(04-29-2013 01:55 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  Dont really know where to post this so ill just leave it here.

Went on that date with the 9. I was a lot more awkward then I thought I would be.

<some bullshit>

We shared 3 beers after her initial water and lime.

Fuck yeah, way to take control of the situation and TURN IT AROUND.

(04-29-2013 01:55 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  After that I drove her home. The vibe was still really good. I never told her where I was driving her and when I turned to the direction of her street she says "look at you, taking me home like a gentleman" but it was in a tone that told me I could have fucked her if I just drove to my place I think. Gave her a kiss goodbye, she pulled me back in and makeout ensued.

But didn't you need to use her restroom?

Post: #684

Quote:But didn't you need to use her restroom?

I pussied out before that moment. We live very close and I saw 2 of her roommates in the window so it wouldnt have worked anyway but I made the decision not to smash before that point. One thing I left out of the story just for sheer embarrassment.

Quote:I didnt write this in that post about our date because it was too embarassing. When we left the last bar I held my arm out and she wrapped her arm around mine. Then she said something like "ive always wanted to have sex in someones car". We were talking about the craziest places weve had sex inside the bar before. I just acted aloof and drove her home like a bitch, I didn't even drive her to my place.

Never been with anyone this hot before, I had too much anxiety I guess. Have no fear:

Quote:8pm last night - me: what night is best for you
noon today - her: probably on thursday ill get a ride back up to town
4 hours later - me: tell me when u know 4 sure. Im thinkin some chilled red wine and hbo
instant text back - her: I like the sounds of that.

If I never joined this forums 1) I would never be talking to a girl this hot first of all 2) I would have panicked and txted her 1-2 more times when she didnt respond for so long. Its funny how much I change inside with a 9 compared to that 7 wendys slut I smashed and kicked out last night. 4 months ago I would have taken out wendys girl twice without touching or kissing her and probably had her either get bored of me and give up or she would be my girlfriend. I think its going to be my most memorable summer ever.

These PMs were sent to Gandt btw, who deserves WAY more then the 2 rep points he currently has.

Post: #685

(04-30-2013 04:06 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

Quote:But didn't you need to use her restroom?

I pussied out before that moment. One thing I left out of the story just for sheer embarrassment.

Quote:I didnt write this in that post about our date because it was too embarassing. When we left the last bar I held my arm out and she wrapped her arm around mine. Then she said something like "ive always wanted to have sex in someones car". We were talking about the craziest places weve had sex inside the bar before. I just acted aloof and drove her home like a bitch, I didn't even drive her to my place.

Never been with anyone this hot before, I had too much anxiety I guess. Have no fear:

Quote:8pm last night - me: what night is best for you
noon today - her: probably on thursday ill get a ride back up to town
4 hours later - me: tell me when u know 4 sure. Im thinkin some chilled red wine and hbo
instant text back - her: I like the sounds of that.

If I never joined this forums 1) I would never be talking to a girl this hot first of all 2) I would have panicked and txted her 1-2 more times when she didnt respond for so long. Its funny how much I change inside with a 9 compared to that 7 wendys slut I smashed and kicked out last night. 4 months ago I would have taken out wendys girl twice without touching or kissing her and probably had her either get bored of me and give up or she would be my girlfriend. I think its going to be my most memorable summer ever.

These PMs were sent to Gandt btw, who deserves WAY more then the 2 rep points he currently has.

I love helping out. Really glad things worked out... get the conversation back to a sexual place when you meet on thursday.

No need to rush things with her and come off as pushy.

Refer to the discussion on "timing" in this thread. Let the wine do the work, let her ease into the mood, then strike!

Keep us posted.

Post: #686

(04-30-2013 04:13 PM)gandt Wrote:  Refer to the discussion on "timing" in this thread. Let the wine do the work, let her ease into the mood, then strike!

Keep us posted.

I have no living room in the place I rent. We will be going straight to my bed.

Probably not ideal for swooping hot mid 20's girls but 18-21 range having no living room is almost like cheating.

Post: #687

Walk into university office to hand in work. Soon as I walk in make I contact with this hot girl, I even think to my self shes fine. Stand at her table to fill in a form, then walk to the hatch to drop my work of. Cute girl taking in the work so decide to have a bit of banter:

Me: You might not be able to staple this (was handing in a book, they normally staple the work with a form)
Office girl: (laughing) I could give it a go
Me: Yeah if you want to break the stapler
Office girl: (laughing) Il just put a plastic band around it
Me: Thanks have a good day.

I turn around and check the hot girl out, and walk out. As I walk out my friend tells me the hot girl was checking me out, I go asked in what way and he goes when I went into the line to hand my work in she turned towards me and was watching (she saw my banter with the office girl ). Im standing at the top of some stairs with a railing and as she comes out shes with a chubby friend:

Me: Hey excuse me (whiles sliding down the rail)
Me: (walking up to her and chubby friend) Can I tell you something really quick.
Hot girl: Yeah
Me: I saw you in the office and thought you looked nice so I wanted to say hello.
Hot girl: (smiling) thanks
Me: (looks at chubby friend) I almost fell of the railing tryna look cool (neutralize the potential cock block)
(both laugh)
Hot girl: Well I think you looked cool
Me: Thanks you just made my day (with a sarcastic smile on my face and holding my heart)
Me: Im guessing you guys do Psychology (girls always do that)
Hot girl: not me but she does criminology
Me: (at chubby friend) so what like catching the bad guys on CSI, bet people always say that (again involve the chubby so she dont drag the friend away and also show Im not a dick by just talking to the hot girl)
Chubby friend: blah blah
Me: And you?
Hot girl: English literature
Me: So your going to end up teaching Englsih to eleven year olds (neg, as most english grads I know end up teaching)
Hot girl: blah blah, What do you do?
Me: Pharmacy (not sure if this is a DHV cos it shows Im smart but dont want to come across geeky or her thinking "hes too smart for me")
Hot girl: blah blah
Me: whats your name?
Hot girl: blah
Me: and yours? (to chubby freind)
Chubby freind: blah
Hot girl: and yours? ( asked me a question)
Me: zaki (shake her hand and the chubby)
Me: bit more back and fourth and negging about her working in McDonalds
Me: So I got to run but I would like to invite you out some time
Hot girl: (contemplating look on her face) You seem like a really nice guy but Im kinda seeing someone right now .
Me: Yeah thats fine Im not the jealous type
(both laugh)
Me: I left my phone in the car give me yours, Ill put my number in (she gives it and I miss call myself. say bye to both and bounce)

This for me was different as I dont usually get checked out or I dont realize it, my friend noticed and she was really receptive to the approach asking multiple questions so maybe she was. Also the chubby friend stayed put and I played well to engage and involve her aswell to show Im a decent guy. We`ll see what happens might flake as shes seeing someone but thats the nature of the game. If dont approach youll never know.

Post: #688

Nice one, welcome to the forum.

Post: #689

Thanks Matt. Been following yours and Bojangles blog, good value and motivating.

See nice girl from behind and run up in front of her.

Me: Hey excuse can I tell say something really quick
Girl: Yes
Me: I saw you from behind and I thought you look nice,
Me: but I was a bit worried cos I didnt know what you looked like from the front but your more than acceptable (that just came out)
Girl: (laughing and offended, clearly I negged to much) Thank you i guess
Me: So you look like you just came out of the office
Girl: Not exactly, school
Me: Teacher or student
Girl: Teacher
Me: (a cheeky smirk appears on my face as she said teacher) Its always been one of my fantasy's to get with a teacher.
Girl: (nodding head side to side and laughing, starts walking away)
Me: Miss I dont mind if you put me in detention

She didnt hook and I realized something. This is the 3rd teacher Ive come across during the day and they all didnt hook. I think its cos Im negging them too much and being teachers they probably have to deal with kids being cheeky and stupid all day so they dont want anymore of that when you approach them. Lesson is next I come across a school teacher dont neg too much and be a bit more sophisticated.

Post: #690

(05-02-2013 09:29 AM)Zaki Wrote:  Thanks Matt. Been following yours and Bojangles blog, good value and motivating.

See nice girl from behind and run up in front of her.

Me: Hey excuse can I tell say something really quick
Girl: Yes
Me: I saw you from behind and I thought you look nice,
Me: but I was a bit worried cos I didnt know what you looked like from the front but your more than acceptable (that just came out)
Girl: (laughing and offended, clearly I negged to much) Thank you i guess
Me: So you look like you just came out of the office
Girl: Not exactly, school
Me: Teacher or student
Girl: Teacher
Me: (a cheeky smirk appears on my face as she said teacher) Its always been one of my fantasy's to get with a teacher.
Girl: (nodding head side to side and laughing, starts walking away)
Me: Miss I dont mind if you put me in detention

She didnt hook and I realized something. This is the 3rd teacher Ive come across during the day and they all didnt hook. I think its cos Im negging them too much and being teachers they probably have to deal with kids being cheeky and stupid all day so they dont want anymore of that when you approach them. Lesson is next I come across a school teacher dont neg too much and be a bit more sophisticated.

I think the problem was you were an asshole right from the start. I wouldn't put up with that from a random on the street either.

Your first approach was dope though.

One question... I can never get over that feeling of "feeling bad" for the fatty because I like her friend more than her. It automatically means you are calling her ugly.

How do you combat that?

Post: #691

(05-02-2013 09:40 AM)gandt Wrote:  I think the problem was you were an asshole right from the start. I wouldn't put up with that from a random on the street either.

Your first approach was dope though.

One question... I can never get over that feeling of "feeling bad" for the fatty because I like her friend more than her. It automatically means you are calling her ugly.

How do you combat that?

Yeah instead of saying "but I was a bit worried cos I didnt know what you looked like from the front but your more than acceptable" go with "but I was wasnt quite sure what you looked like but Im glad I approach you now" or just scrap that all together.

In term of "feeling bad" for the fatties then never. Why should I feel bad for her? Just don`t be a dick and ignore her talk to her as well make her laugh a bit, that in turn should make you feel better.

From a technical view any question your going to ask, ask the hotty first then the chubby, when chubby replies respond to chubby first than go back to the hotty. Win the chubby over so you dot feel bad and you get peer approval.

Post: #692

Did my very first day approach today. (Trying out the one approach a day by roosh). It was pretty bad.

Me: Excuse me, I just saw you over there and I thought you were cute

Her: thank you (big smile)

Me: What are you up to?

Her: On my way home

Me. Where are you from?

Her: Vancouver (starts laughing)

I couldn't think of anything. Long awkward pause

Her: btw I have a boyfriend

Me: it was nice meeting you

I eject

Post: #693

(05-02-2013 10:54 PM)ballsyamog Wrote:  I eject

Keep it up and the ejection rate will drop.

Post: #694

I did an approach on the bus home tonight, and considering it was one of my first ever cold approaches, it could have gone worse:
(Get on the bus and spot a girl who's about a 6.5, sitting alone looking stressed).
Me: Why are you so sad.
Her: Exams haha.
Me: Well I wouldn't get too worried, just look forward to summer. Are you going to any festivals?
Her: Haha no I don't think so, are you?
Me: Yeah I'm going to NASS and Boardmasters.
(Bus stops)
Her: Anyway it was nice speaking to you, but this is my stop, see you.
So I only got about a minute of interaction before she got off the bus, but if it had kept going I would have dropped some bait (or at least the 16 year old version) of seeing Dizzee Rascal last year and being right in the front row etc.

Post: #695

Zaki, ballsyamog, and Cyr all with varying level of approach success and actual level of game, but what stands out the most?

No supplication, no neediness, overall good calibration/self-evaluation, and no negativity. Really impressive.

As Hotwheels said, you guys are going to get far that way.

Hope to have some approach posts up here for tonight as it's a friend's birthday, it's been really hot/nice weather (this means the girls will be out in droves by the beach), and I have an itch to get over this shit that I posted in the I got flaked on thread.

Post: #696

Only read this if you care about stripper pick ups.



At a strip club tonight with 2 friends. Blonde 9 (irrefutable 8 even if she isn't your bag) makes rounds for lap dances. She makes subtle eye contact with me and I smile back bashfully and look away. I did this because I believe when strippers first see you it is like the roles are reversed, they are the approacher and you should give an IOI to warm them up. Boyish playfulness I believe can do this.

Most strippers will stand over you and bend over or crouch down touch your leg and ask you how you are or directly if you want a dance. She decides to sit next to me in the empty chair and introduce her stripper identity to me. I call her Ashley on accident when it is Ashton and she corrects me and I ask her if I can just call her Ashley instead she says fine with a laugh and smile, but she really is a tomboy that is why she calls herself Ashton. I ask how the tips are tonight, how the club is, how she likes the girls etc... kind of like I am a new stripper myself learning how the night is going. This took her out of customer mode and into, how is my day going mode.

Fast forward to the backroom during the dance I try to get into the dance but still keep conversation going. I don't think strippers are used to this. She seemed amiable to conversation though. She asks how old I think she is, I guess too old on purpose in a polite way, she agrees many people say she looks older (she is 22, may look 26ish, I guessed late 20s), I say it is because she has wisdom in her face. I comment on how she has a real dancer's body, not just a stripper body and how she got that. This lead into conversation about her working out and history as a stripper. I joke about how her firm stomach is GI Joe shit. She laughs.

During the dance things get a little heated and she says she can't concentrate on talking when we are doing this she loses her train of thought. She says she gets hot easily. She begins to perspire the tiniest bit, I point it out saying she really does get hot easily. She goes into how she is during sex when it happens and wants to be on top and not pressed against someone because she feels gross etc...

Eventually the dance ends and she stands there looking like it should keep going. I say "that's it right?", she says yes it is, but looks like she had the fun knocked out of her.

I later her see her on the main stage and go up to it to show her I haven't had enough yet. I tip her a few dollars to come over and show me attention, at the end of her dance she comes to collect and gives me warm but somewhat hidden smile. I have been to strip clubs for over 10 years and I haven't see a playful smile like that from a stripper yet, they usually have too much sex appeal almost in semi cartoon way in their stares and smiles. She looked like we just shared a secret like two excited kids.

Later I see her walking around and we catch eyes again she comes over to say hi, and I ask for another dance. We go back and I say I need to ask her some questions. I ask her what's best advice to ask a dancer to talk outside the club, I rambled about how I heard paying anything makes you a customer and you are totally out. You should just only buy drinks and hang out or meet strippers outside the club. And I mentioned the way I heard to see if a stripper is down to see you outside the club is to ask what time do you get off work. If the stripper says I can take off anytime I want then they are down to see you. If they say oh we have rules and have to stay the whole night til whenever then they just want to work.

She objected and said she dated one guy that was a customer and how he spent a ton of money on her at the club and became a stalker later. At this point I knew she was gaming me to spend alot of money. My body posture went cold as her halfway dance during this conversation rolled on. When the song ended I got up briskly and said goodnight. She seemed surprised.

A half hour later she is making her rounds and comes up to me and tells me she thinks she can get off any time she wants but she will probably be able to get off work in an hour but she isn't sure and make have to work til close because she is pretty new. I shit the bed mentally and don't realize she is actually repeating my pick up line back to me. I say well yeah I am still hanging out for a little while. She says okay I will come back and say hi before you leave. I soon after realize my folly.

I start thinking rapidly about logistics, how much life my cell phone has, and how to talk to her again.

I am with friends that drove me from 45 min. south. Her place is 1 hour+ north. This is a 9 stripper with a perfect body in my mind who also smokes weed and play video games. Worth the mental math. I quickly decide it is a stripper. I will not stay behind with no ride til closing and be flaked by her. I decide to just number close.

I catch her and ask her what time she is really getting off she says closing time. I say well put your number in my phone because I have to go now (friends need to leave) and we will figure it out. She says she can't be seen giving a number to a guy in the club, she says she will go get paper to write it on.

I wait about 10 min, she returns to sit next to me and says she tried to get paper and she was called out on for why she needed it, and stole a gum wrapper to write it on. She hands me the number. I tell her I can pick up my car and meet her here at closing time, or she can drive down to my place. She says she won't meet new guys from the club right away because of the stalker ex. I say fine no rush. We keep talking about her hobbies, pets, where she lives, her family. All about her.... 100% in fact.

She stays so long a club manager comes and tap her saying time to get back to work baby. She gets up slowly with a smile and I say I will talk to you, good night.

I find these points may be in my favor:

1. It was her second day at the club and she risked being seen giving out a phone number to a customer
2. She also wasted time talking to me when there was no money in it, in fact she got in trouble for not working to talk to me
3. I found out she lives in the middle of nowhere and is a loner, she has 3 pets, plays video games, and loves pot. I think even a stripper wants a tiny bit of companionship or decent sex once in awhile.
   

This is my first stripper number attempt or what I hope will turn into a pull. I think it went well. Interested to hear about guys that pull strippers from the club and their thoughts.

Post: #697

Here is a story I want to share about yesterday's approach of a 9, that went astray. Learned a lot from it, especially the importance of acting fast as hell when you need to.

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Post: #698

What's up guys, this is my first post on this thread...trying to get my game up.

Walked into the Starbucks near where I work and settled into the queue behind a really attractive brunette (maybe a 7.5 or 8). She sees me and briefly flashes a smile and turns back around. 2 minutes later as the line snakes around the counter, she turns and looks my way again and smiles once more. I notice more of her face and look this time and my interest in her peaks. So I decided to talk to her.

Me: "Excuse me, can I ask you a question? Are you Eastern European? You look Romanian or maybe Croatian or something?"
Her: "No"
Me: "Oh, ok. Well, what are you, then?"
Her: "I'm half Irish and half Native American."
Me: "That makes sense. Are you into your Native American culture?"
Her: "No, not really. I'm not that familiar with it. My uncle did some genealogy on it and uncovered some cool stuff about our ancestry, though."

We continued the back and forth conversation for a few minutes, noticing that during the entire exchange she was smiling and very focused on me, very present. The barista called her name and she went to get her coffee and as she came back towards me, she tells me that it was nice to meet me. I extended my hand and she gave me her hand in return; while holding it, I ask her name and tell her that I would see her around.

I'm pretty sure I'll see her again but would you have asked for her number and escalated the interaction?

Post: #699

Was in the physio waiting room yesterday evening. Chatted up another patient. Slim, great figure, meeting her tomorrow night. I did nothing but initiate convo with an authoritative attitude, was distant but playful, and sealed the number with "I think you should put your number in my phone"..."I'm taking you out this weekend". I owe that Vitaly guy from YouTube a lot, he's helped my daygame with that video alone haha.

It's a bank holiday here (national holiday is what you say in the States?) on Monday, so good times.

Post: #700

Didn't do to great tonight, haven't done night game, I made plenty of approaches which was good I guess. Only got one dance though. The only positive thing is I had made out with a girl on my bday and my friend was trying to tell me she looked kinda chubby in pics. But I saw her today and she was at least a 7-8, skinny too.