Post: #651

(04-22-2013 05:12 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  A few days ago...


This is looking good!

doesnt get better than that, sounds like you could have banged her that night!

Post: #652

Just went to Wendys. Solid 7 at driv-thru window. Didn't do shit. Went to fish for my spoon for the frosty and it wasnt in the bag. Went through driv-thru again,

me: Hi I would like to order a spoon
her: a spoon???

I just drove up.

me: and I thought we were friends
her: ohhh Im so sorry I forgot here you go

Pulled away. There is this voice in my head. Before I know it I am pulling into the driv-thru a 3rd time

me: Hi. I would like to order a fork
her: hysterically laughing through the speaker
Pull up to window
me: I just thought you were cute, whats your number
she actually started stuttering
me: oh is that your name? <opened my phone and looked at her again>
her: jessica xxx-xxxx
me: talk to you soon jessica <i start to pull away>
her: OH OH (gives me the area code)
I give her a wtf look and drive off.

Post: #653

(04-23-2013 09:02 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  me: whatsup
her: just finished at the gym. You
me: otwb from boston pizza feelin pretty good
her: yummy wish i could eat that
me: Ya i did some eatin 2.lol. Too many goodbyes lately, why is everyone leaving town
her: Lol I'm on a diet. Wehh ill miss pizza and fries. AndI know. But many of my friends are staying too ((qualifying herself twice to me?))

I would have called her after this point. It's clear you are having a full conversation so just pick up the phone. I also don't see any qualification in the above reply.

Quote:me: one of my buds just went back to (beach town). I see many trips out there this summer
her: haha nice
me: Im heading downtown tmrw u should come

Why not just make specific plans with her? Say it was nice meeting her and that you are available on Tuesday and Thursday for a nice tall glass of water to go along with her diet.

Quote:her: like bars ?
me: U said during the day. No im gona get some CDs at (store) n walk around, grab food prob
her: im off thursday
me: i work both jobs thurs. U still busy tonight?

Risky move. Pushing the pace like this makes you seem needy.

Quote:her: wats your other job
me: Jiggalo. I sell my body to the night

I would have simply not addressed this question. I would have said what ever I wanted to say next. Jiggalo response is over gaming to me.

Quote:her: ahah cute
me: lets go for a walk its so nice out
her: Now ?
me: 30 min ill be at rez k?
her: Nooooo.

Far too needy. Below you described how you thought "tonight would be your only shot". It shows. Lots of bombarding here.

Quote:her: I'm in pjs. No makeup. Rat nest hair
me: that sounds so fuckin sexy you have no idea
me: I think you can b presentable in 30. Plus itll b dark
her: Haha, it takes me a while to be ready
me: Im gonna take a shower. When I check my phone again it better have some good news on it
her: Its all around a bad night. I have really bad cramps I wanna be curled up

Yeah bro I don't know what to say. I have encountered so many of these girls and have had texting back and forth that has gone exactly like what you posted above. But in my cases my frame was weak and I don't think there was much attraction with these girls, which resulted in the shitty text game.

On one hand I think these girls like attention but on the other I think it was approached completely the wrong way by you.

Keep these girls hanging with your responses, become unpredictable, bold, not-needy, witty, etc...

This will also develop as you have more girls surrounding you.

For example: yesterday this girl texted me and I noticed the text, yes of course. Did I have time to reply? Sure. There are 24 hours in the day. But given my other options I didn't care to respond and did not prioritize it. Put it to the back of my mind and forgot about it.

I think you should have done this from the start. As much as girls like the instant gratification of getting texts from you right away, it makes you loose value in their eyes.

Quote:Not gonna send her another text for a few days since I am busy till Sunday. I was thinking about sending "is that an invite to cuddle" but I think I pressed hard enough here. After I said "that sounds so fuckin sexy you have no idea" I let that comment linger longer then my other replies and she didn't send anything so I sent the next text. Thoughts on my text game overall?

Absolutely do not send the cuddle text. I say enough with the games here. Say that you are free on (day 1) and (day 2) and you want to see her. But at this point I think the damage might be done.

__________________________________________

All in all, this looks exactly how my texting was when I first started, which isn't a good thing.

It seems to be hugely overkill and I think it shows by her reactions.

Post: #654

See this good looking blond walk by in a night pair of yoga tights (man those things get me going).

Again, I felt I wasn't looking good in terms of what I was wearing. I hate coming across as a business chump but fact of the matter is that I have to wear that shit for work.

See this girl pass by and I am debating whether or not to go up to her...

Fuck it!

Me: "Excuse me..."

Her: *stops and faces me

Me: "I was just waiting over there at the bus stop and saw you walk by. I thought you looked very nice, how you are dressed and all so I wanted to come tell you that"

Her: *smiling "thanks so much"

Me: "Yeah i know it is kind of random but you seemed cute so I wanted to say hi. What are you up to today? Finished work?"

Her: "Oh I am just on my way home from a workout"

Me: "Nice I am thinking of going to the gym myself later today. I just started this new gym routine and I have to go every day. what gym do you go to?"

Her: "I go to XYZ but today I was just walking with a friend"

Me: "Yeah finally the weather is getting nice. I can't wait for summer. I'm guessing you live in the city here?"

Her: "No actually I live just outside of it, but i work here"

Me: "Oh i love that area, my area is kind of quiet and boring but it is close to all the good restaurants and cafes.. Where do you work?"

Her: "just up the street at XYZ... and you?"

Me: "same... but at XYX. So tell me, what do you do for fun when you arent working?"

Her: "hummm... I workout, go out with friends" bla bla bla

Me: "yeah same thing here pretty much. well listen I gotta head home but it was nice meeting you"

Her: "yeah thanks for coming up"

Me: "I know this might seem random but do you want to get a drink after work sometime?"

Her: *Pondering "It sounds nice but I think my boyfriend wouldn't like that since we live together"

Me: "Probably not. Well it was nice meeting you anyway, I'm sure ill see you around sometime!"

Post: #655

Thanks for the response.

Quote:Yeah bro I don't know what to say. I have encountered so many of these girls and have had texting back and forth that has gone exactly like what you posted above. But in my cases my frame was weak and I don't think there was much attraction with these girls, which resulted in the shitty text game.

Ya. Thats the position I put myself in. I called her a few nights ago and I was left with the feeling that I did not make a strong impression. I am trying new things, going down the same failed path every time is a much dumber thing to do. That jiggalo line has worked for me a few times getting POF girls to meet me so I incorporated it. When I said "me: i work both jobs thurs. U still busy tonight?" and she didnt respond if she was busy tonight I figured Id press her on it. I told her when I talked to her a couple nights ago that I was free Tuesday night so maybe that exchange about meeting me tonight was a little less needy? Idk.

I had her in my cab for 5 minutes and at least some of that conversation was with her friends too. Dumb question but at what point should I be trying to build attraction based on this situation? I should go from getting her number in my cab to very minimal texting and just set a date to meet? I dont think I should be making phone calls at this point.

When I phoned her Sunday she also said she was free day time Wed and Thurs and when I tried to book her Wed tonight she said only Thurs shes free now. I actually still only have one job but I wasn't going to go from Tues to Wed to Thurs obviously so I made something up as to why I couldn't do Thurs. Ignore her for 2 weeks and try again?

Post: #656

(04-24-2013 04:28 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  Thanks for the response.

Quote:Yeah bro I don't know what to say. I have encountered so many of these girls and have had texting back and forth that has gone exactly like what you posted above. But in my cases my frame was weak and I don't think there was much attraction with these girls, which resulted in the shitty text game.

Ya. Thats the position I put myself in. I called her a few nights ago and I was left with the feeling that I did not make a strong impression. I am trying new things, going down the same failed path every time is a much dumber thing to do. That jiggalo line has worked for me a few times getting POF girls to meet me so I incorporated it. When I said "me: i work both jobs thurs. U still busy tonight?" and she didnt respond if she was busy tonight I figured Id press her on it. I told her when I talked to her a couple nights ago that I was free Tuesday night so maybe that exchange about meeting me tonight was a little less needy? Idk.

I had her in my cab for 5 minutes and at least some of that conversation was with her friends too. Dumb question but at what point should I be trying to build attraction based on this situation? I should go from getting her number in my cab to very minimal texting and just set a date to meet? I dont think I should be making phone calls at this point.

When I phoned her Sunday she also said she was free day time Wed and Thurs and when I tried to book her Wed tonight she said only Thurs shes free now. I actually still only have one job but I wasn't going to go from Tues to Wed to Thurs obviously so I made something up as to why I couldn't do Thurs. Ignore her for 2 weeks and try again?

The thing is, if your interaction wasn't that strong in 2 weeks she'll forget about you.

I would say just let it sit for a bit. If she texts you to meet up thursday have her meet up at your place, on your terms. If it were me I would tell her to come by for a movie.

In my experience the best responses to a girl saying:

"I can't make it tonight" --> "k" or "np"

"can we meet another time?" --> "sure"

I would say you should go game more girls and once you get hotter girls number this kind of attitude of not needing to rush things and not giving a fuck will manifest itself.

Post: #657

(04-24-2013 04:11 AM)gandt Wrote:  See this good looking blond walk by in a night pair of yoga tights (man those things get me going).

Again, I felt I wasn't looking good in terms of what I was wearing. I hate coming across as a business chump but fact of the matter is that I have to wear that shit for work.

You should try lurking at r/malefashionadvice. Dressing better for work should actually make you feel more confident to approach, not less. Most American clothes are aimed at fat people, sadly, and if you're a thin guy then you have to consciously seek out slim fits that work for you.

Post: #658

Morning Approach:

Girl passes by on corner. I speed up and stop her from the side with a smile.

Me: "excuse me, do you have a sec?"

Her: "yeah what's up?"

Me: "To be honest I'm very hungover right now so forgive me if im not making sense... but I just thought you looked very nice and wanted to meet you"... "what's your name?"

Her: "I'm Roosh"

Me: "Nice to meet you"... "what are you up to right now?"

Her: "just on my way to school"

Me: "interesting, i didnt know there were any schools in the area!"

Her: "yeah its just up over there... It's a drama school"

Me: "Drama! now that's interesting. so what kind of acting to you do?"

Her: *rambling on about school... "but hey i have to get to class actually"

Me: "yeah no problem i need to get to work to"... "i know we just met but do you want to grab a coffee sometime?"

Her: "I would for sure but I actually have a boyfriend"

Me: "no prob. It was really nice meeting you anyway"

Post: #659

Girl sitting at the table next to me at restaurant... eye contact twice... one cockblocker and a guy not sure if bf... how should i get her number? I still have 10 minutes before they leave

Post: #660

Asked them if they worked nearby... cockblocker loocked down on me and the rest followed... really awkward.

Post: #661

(04-25-2013 11:59 AM)beltoforion Wrote:  Girl sitting at the table next to me at restaurant... eye contact twice... one cockblocker and a guy not sure if bf... how should i get her number? I still have 10 minutes before they leave

Excuse me. I don't mean to interrupt. But is this your girlfriend?

If yes "gotcha you're a lucky dude"

If no "so then you don't mind if I flirt with her for a bit then?"

Post: #662

(04-25-2013 12:23 PM)gandt Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 11:59 AM)beltoforion Wrote:  Girl sitting at the table next to me at restaurant... eye contact twice... one cockblocker and a guy not sure if bf... how should i get her number? I still have 10 minutes before they leave

Excuse me. I don't mean to interrupt. But is this your girlfriend?

If yes "gotcha you're a lucky dude"

If no "so then you don't mind if I flirt with her for a bit then?"

i don't have the balls yet to go that direct daygaming in a restaurant. but could work since my indirect question bombed nicely anyways, i'd rather choose to be bombed going direct.

Post: #663

I may be wrong, but to me that was never going to work. Some chances you have to just let fly by because they don't work logistically.

There are plenty of times this happens to me and I just have to say "ah well, where's the next one?"

Getting shot down in an almost impossible situation will affect your state for the worse. It's easy to get over a rejection if you're alone with the girl but you had an audience.

Girls act differently to you in front of people they know. Your game has to be super tight if you're gonna open a group. The girl may really want to fuck you but they can't show that in front of her mates, particularly guy mates who will no doubt want to fuck her. They have reputations to upkeep, even more so in front of guys so they don't come across as slags and easy.

Post: #664

(04-25-2013 03:23 PM)MattC Wrote:  I may be wrong, but to me that was never going to work. Some chances you have to just let fly by because they don't work logistically.

There are plenty of times this happens to me and I just have to say "ah well, where's the next one?"

Getting shot down in an almost impossible situation will affect your state for the worse. It's easy to get over a rejection if you're alone with the girl but you had an audience.

Girls act differently to you in front of people they know. Your game has to be super tight if you're gonna open a group. The girl may really want to fuck you but they can't show that in front of her mates, particularly guy mates who will no doubt want to fuck her. They have reputations to upkeep, even more so in front of guys so they don't come across as slags and easy.

i agree with you, i knew i was going to bomb, I wouldn't even bother trying if the chick didn't eye fuck me twice, and the fat cockblocker was checking on me while I was eating. So I said fuck it. But the approach was more awkward than i expected, i wasn't waiting for them to look down on me, they were very unfriendly. Looking on the bright side I at least got a thicker skin but i managed to charge it to the game.

I am going to the uni again right now. Posting the approaches here shortly

Post: #665

(04-23-2013 09:02 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  A wise man once said, when your posting here about a girl your already too invested. Only reason I am asking for step by step here is because she is the hottest girl Ive gotten digits from yet

Cut out the neediness, holy crap dude! Would you game the drive through girl the way you're interacting with this girl?

Hell no, right?

WHY?!

Who cares that she's hot. She's going to be even MORE turned off by your neediness and fake alpha.

Drive through girl was a fucking riot. Even if it had failed, come on, that's a HILARIOUS story to tell in the future.

Post: #666

Back on this thread. I am again in a country where i get to see lots of hot women.

Anyway, i see this 9 (she was with a friend) walking past me and my friends, i tell her '' excuse-me, excuse-me''she completely ignores me, i am thinking should i just follow her and talk to her..i ignored any thoughts or instinct and followed her..

Me- ''hey sup, i saw you walking past and i wanted to get to know you.. (she smiles).. im pitt, whats your name''

Target - '' Im bla bla''

Me: do you live around here?

target ''yeah not too far from here'' (we are walking until this time)

Me: Just stop for a sec (fuck that ''can you stop'' weak stuff, tell her to stop!), i want to talk to you a bit more

Told her some funny shit..she laughed.. (cant remember what i said)i tell her to give me her number so we can go hang out one of these days and get to know each other better..her friend was waiting for her and screwing her (not sure if screwing in the US means the same thing as in the UK)..she tells me she doesnt have a phone (i dont usually believe this but i think she was saying the truth) but she told me walks past this road everyday and we can meet tomorrow and hang out tomorrow.

Lesson for me today: Usually when i call a girl to stop and she doesnt stop the first time i have made a rule not to persist..however today i have broken this rule. i think some girls dont have the confidence to stop and talk to a stranger specially when she sees a bunch of guys. I have fucked girls that completely ignore me the first time i called them but soon as i became more persistent they opened up, i also had the opposite happening. To me it just depends how hot she is, if she is a 9 or a 10, i will make a more hardcore approach, if she is a 5, bitch im not chasing you.

Also this approach could be better if i was able to familiarise a bit more with her. It was a very fast approach, i dont think i created enough comfort (then again they were in a hurry), its good to always remember what giovonny says (build comfort/familiarity and she is more likely to see you on a second date).

Life is good..far from the UK

Post: #667

Got 3 numbers last night, my goal was 6 this weekend (2 a night) so its off to a good start. Got the number from the hottest girl ive asked so far which is funny because I said this last week as well.

Flat stomach 18-19 yr old brunette with C cups and amazing lips. She put her rediculously oversized ring on my finger (i asked her to, DUMB) and was telling me we were married and she played that up the entire time, calling me Romeo. She lifted up her skirt and showed me her ass "because her horse stepped on her". Lots of touching between us but I felt like I gave her way too much positive attention instead of toying with her. She said her name was Whitney and told me "but not Whitney Houston" and I said "your cuter than her" which I should not have said and even she corrected me "you said I am whiter than her right?". Oops. I honestly think she was just fucking around to entertain her friends in the back seat but its still a confidence booster to be able to ask an insanely hot girl for her number in front of 3 other cute girls and actually get it.

I really am lost here to be honest, especially when its 3+ girls in my cab. Its so hard trying to build any kind of attraction with super hyper drunk girls in front of their friends with a 10 minute window. I asked her if she grew up here and then asked her favorite childhood memory in town via "questions to build rapport" thread here /thread-11069.html but it felt out of place. Another other mistake I am making is fitting into the "entertainer" role but when I meet a girl one on one I don't have anywhere near that same energy and neither does she since she isn't drunk anymore. I really need some help, I feel as if I am letting so many opportunities slip by.

One more note I am going to make. If you spend lots of money going out at night you may as well get a job as a part time cab driver and work nights. A lot of you guys would be getting laid nightly and you would be getting paid for it instead of burning a hole in your wallet.

Post: #668

(04-25-2013 03:23 PM)MattC Wrote:  I may be wrong, but to me that was never going to work. Some chances you have to just let fly by because they don't work logistically.

There are plenty of times this happens to me and I just have to say "ah well, where's the next one?"

Getting shot down in an almost impossible situation will affect your state for the worse. It's easy to get over a rejection if you're alone with the girl but you had an audience.

Girls act differently to you in front of people they know. Your game has to be super tight if you're gonna open a group. The girl may really want to fuck you but they can't show that in front of her mates, particularly guy mates who will no doubt want to fuck her. They have reputations to upkeep, even more so in front of guys so they don't come across as slags and easy.

I always go by "if you don't try you will never know".

All valid points you bring up, but I experience the opposite of what you said often:

* After getting rejected I actually don't feel embarrassed or bad at all. U realize that I build everything up in my head like it is going to be the worst thing in the world and when it actually happens then I actually get energized from it...

* I think it's easier to get her number if she's with her friends than if she is alone and you are with friends. Furthermore it shows you have balls to go for what you want. I actually think if she was in a group of her girlfriends she would feel pumped up by the fact you wanted to talk to her and not any of her friends (making her the envy of the group).

* I think boldness is > her reputation upkeep.

It's hard to get to the bottom of this kind of stuff because the results could differ drastically depending on your demeanour, confidence, etc...

Post: #669

(04-23-2013 09:02 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  me: whatsup
her: just finished at the gym. You
me: otwb from boston pizza feelin pretty good
her: yummy wish i could eat that
me: Ya i did some eatin 2.lol. Too many goodbyes lately, why is everyone leaving town
her: Lol I'm on a diet. Wehh ill miss pizza and fries. AndI know. But many of my friends are staying too ((qualifying herself twice to me?))
me: one of my buds just went back to (beach town). I see many trips out there this summer ((not true, i know shes the type of girl that would like beaches and has no vehicle))
her: haha nice
me: Im heading downtown tmrw u should come
her: like bars ?
me: U said during the day. No im gona get some CDs at (store) n walk around, grab food prob
her: im off thursday
me: i work both jobs thurs. U still busy tonight?
her: wats your other job
me: Jiggalo. I sell my body to the night
her: ahah cute
me: lets go for a walk its so nice out
her: Now ?
me: 30 min ill be at rez k?
her: Nooooo.
her: I'm in pjs. No makeup. Rat nest hair
me: that sounds so fuckin sexy you have no idea
me: I think you can b presentable in 30. Plus itll b dark
her: Haha, it takes me a while to be ready
me: Im gonna take a shower. When I check my phone again it better have some good news on it
her: Its all around a bad night. I have really bad cramps I wanna be curled up

Not bad. I sense a bit of desperation. You might be presenting yourself as a little bit too needy. It's feels like you are trying to convince to hang out with you.

(04-23-2013 09:02 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  qualifying herself twice to me?

I'm not sure what "qualification" is..?

I doubt that she is doing it here.

(04-23-2013 09:02 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  I was thinking about sending "is that an invite to cuddle" but I think I pressed hard enough here.

Yeah, you pressed hard enough.

(04-23-2013 09:02 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  Thoughts on my text game overall?

A little needy.

(04-24-2013 04:28 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  at what point should I be trying to build attraction based on this situation?

You should be trying to build attraction from the moment she gets into your cab.

(04-24-2013 04:28 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  I should go from getting her number in my cab to very minimal texting and just set a date to meet?

Yes, basically. Texting is okay, but texting that goes on and on and doesn't end with a date being set can be a waste of time.

Texting is okay. Just remember to try and set a date.

(04-24-2013 04:28 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  I dont think I should be making phone calls at this point.

It all depends how good your phone game is..

If your phone game is good, call her. If it sucks, don't.

(04-24-2013 04:28 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  Ignore her for 2 weeks and try again?

If she doesn't want to see you now, waiting 2 weeks will probably not change things much.

I think you should call or text her in 2-3 days and try to set a date.

(04-26-2013 08:16 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  She lifted up her skirt and showed me her ass "because her horse stepped on her". Lots of touching between us

Wow!

(04-26-2013 08:16 AM)Jaylow Wrote:  Its so hard trying to build any kind of attraction with super hyper drunk girls

You should be trying to bang these girls, same night.

They are drunk, they are partying, they are flirting with you. Try to bang them.

You are a taxi driver, offer to drive them home at the end of the night, drive them home, ask to use their bathroom, go for it!!!

Post: #670

I am going to post some not so good Approaches to get the Feed back.

Rusty Rusty, Rusty.....

Approach # 1: I went to a cigar shop which is at the end of hallway in a strip mall to buy some cigars, On the way back I notice a girl with long Blond hair with a busty Ass (Didn't see the face) in a summer dress in another shop talkig to shopkeeper.

I come out of the hallway and stand at the end and pretend to be on the phone I wanted to see what she looks like and also approach her. Well here she comes , she is as pretty above the neck as she is below. I would giver her a Solid 8 and above, A white Blonde with that kinda ass, I was Impressed, she comes close trying to avoid my line of vision , body turned to side like saying get away from me...... and I didn't Approach WTF..... She had like a closed body language.

She moves way from me and I am watching her Ass bounce away, look to the side and older man 70- 80 yrs is also staring at her Ass, we both look at each other and Laugh, He said " Too Bad I can only look and not do a thing " , I told him I wanted to talk to her but she looked closed, he said yeah it loked like she was saying get away fom me .....

Oh well bothered me the whole evening that I didn't Approach her..

Approach # 2: White Girl sitting across from me at Starbucks , dressed in All Black, yoga pants thin enough that her Milky white skin is peeking through the Black. I open with

Me: Nice Shoes ....

Her: Thanks , I got them from JC penny

Me: Seriously , I thought they were Aldo's

her: No JC penny had a sale last week

Me: I like the look, I have been looking for some Men's but can;t find the Size in Nasons

Her: You should check out the Store in the mall

Me: yeah i will this weekend.

I ran out of steam and things went quiet, I left after 5 min with out pushing for her Number, She did say , it was nice talking to you.

Pissed, pissed, Pissed and Rusty as hell.

Approach # 3: Getting my Sandwich, there is a girl in Line ahead of me, she looked at me from the corner of her Eye, I couldn't approach her in line, She paid for her Soup and walked out, I pay for mine and walk out and catch up with her going up the stairs and open with,

Me: Long cuffs you got there, Be careful not to dip them in your soup...

Her: haha, I know , I have weird clothes.

Me: yeah your trouser cuffs are long too.

her: yeah they are but look they are pleated and I don't have to Iron them ( she starts pointing towards her shirt and trouser)

Me: You must be from San Francisco ...

her: People think I am from South America.

Me: A white Girl like you .... I don't think so.

Her: where are you from ?

Standard Approach from here on.....

Me: Guess ?

Her: Middle East , etc etc.

Me: I tell her after some teasing...

Her: So what do you do around here

Me: Standard lines about my line of work , which is a DHV for her ........ and tell her I have to back to work but lets exchange numbers and continue the conversation.( I did ask her where she works and what exactly she does there)

Number closed and moved on.....

Post: #671

(04-26-2013 02:12 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Girls

You're being kind of hard on yourself.

Girl #1 - Yes, you should've approached if only for the practice, but you're likely right that she was not open to you.

Girl #2 - I don't think this was going anywhere anyway from her words, she seemed to be talking more than flirting.

Girl #3 - Put it in her butt.

Post: #672

First off let me just say that I don't think of my talking to women as 'approaches', I don't frame my conversations that way. I just enjoy teasing women and bantering with them, I don't find it healthy to have the 'Ok I need to approach that hot girl' mindset. That feels forced to me and adds a kind of pressure to succeed. I just get into conversations with women.

Ok last night's conversations with women in the London borough of Islington:

English girl, upper end attractive, early 20's, sitting outside a pub in the sunshine with female friend:

Me: Holy shit, your face! Why are you so red??

Her: I know, I got sunburnt, thanks for telling me!

Me: Damn, I would not show my face if it was that red. You look like a tomato. Never heard of skin cancer? Looks before health right, I got you.

Her: I didn't intend to get this red, OBVIOUSLY! ( now smiling ).

Me: Shit it's getting redder as we speak, are you just blushing? Am I making you nervous?

Number closed after 10 minutes of banter.

French girl sitting next to empty chair outside pub:

Me: This chair taken?

Her: Yes, someone is sittng there.

Me: ( talking to the empty chair ) Oh the invisible man. So how long have you known this girl? Oh really! Does she now, dirty bugger, I heard that about French girls.

She laughs

Her: No I mean someone is coming at 7:12

Me: 7:12? Wow that is precise! Sounds like a fun guy. Ok at 7:13 I take the chair.

Eventually a foppish UK guy turns up on time. I go to the bar later in evening and she is standing there besides me. I ask her about France and her impressions of London. Ask for her number, she says she would like to but she cannot as she has a boyfriend. Cool.

Got talking to an English girl outside the York pub, late 20's, not very attractive but she was very into me from the off and something sexy about her. Can't remember how I started talking to her. She told me she had a stunning Russian friend who she was going to Georgia with this summer so I continued the chat. Talked about my trips to Georgia and Abkhazia. I upped the sexual talk about what to expect from Georgian men in Georgia. She had to go to a French evening class so we swapped numbers and she left. I thought she would be in the bag but texted her today and she hasn't replied so she was a flake it seems. Never can tell.

Later I walk to a restaurant and see a blonde girl with a suitcase on wheels waving at me, I look behind me thinking she must mean someone else.

Me: Do we know each other?

Girl: Yes we met in the pub earlier ( I had no recollection )

Me: Ok cool. Where you from?

Girl: France, Corsica. It's an isla....

Me: ( interrupting )Oh I spend a lot of time in Nice every year so I can practically see it from my bedroom window.

Girl: Really, wonderful! ( It was in the bag from that moment ) I went to college there at .... .... ( forget which one as I have never heard of it )

Me: Oh the second best one in nice you mean? The other one is better. ( just free styling here i have no idea about colleges )

Girl: No no it is the best ( goes on to tell me why her college was better than some other one she thought I knew about )

Me: Well you believe that if you want but everyone in Nice knows the other college is better.

More teasing, ask about her plans in UK. Number close. Felt it was a strong number.

Walked to Giraffe restaurant. Waitress seats me and the girl I was having a night out with. Lithianian, poor skin but good body. I think she had body odour issues though - not certain it was her.

Me: Where you from?

Her: Lithuania.

Me: You speak Russian?

Her: Well I understand a little.

My Girl: Oh he speaks great Russian ( pointing at me )

Her: Really?! Incredible, how? Where did you learn.

Me: ( switching to Russian ) Minsk. I also work in Moscow sometimes.

We then talk in Russian, I ask her to choose our meal as I want to be surprised. As we leave after the meal I ask for her number. There is interest but she looks at my date who is standing outside waiting. I tell her she is just a friend. Number closed but I don't think it was a very strong one. The fact I was with a girl made her a bit wary of giving me the number I think. She will almost certainly flake.

Later in the night I ditched the girl I was with, left her crying outside of Islington tube station. I just did not want to bang her. She is a virgin who wants me to take her virginity but after failing the first time I have gone off the idea ( /thread-21486-...89523.html ). I called Corsica girl who came and met me in a pub on the corner near Brown's. Kissed her and a bit of a fumble in a doorway then caught the 23:17 train home from Victoria. Probably could have banged if I was staying in London but will never know since I had to leave.

Another fun night in the UK. Now off to Nice for 6 weeks tomorrow full of confidence about dealing with French girls down there.

Post: #673

(04-26-2013 11:41 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  You are a taxi driver, offer to drive them home at the end of the night, drive them home, ask to use their bathroom, go for it!!!

Well that girl who showed me her ass was dropped off first. Should I make a joke about "maybe you should be dropped off last?" at some point? Say it seriously?

Just txted her, guess she wasn't just using me for entertainment value

me: where art thou juliet
her: thy is traveling throughout the mighty land of (city). How are you!?
me: if they had phones back then i think romeo would be a big texter
her: Lol. Romeo must have sent a lot of pigeons to juliet.
me: could have skipped the pebble throwing... i think he would take her to (bar in town), come join me sunday night
her: are you asking me on a date??
me: married couples dont do dates more like casual get together
her: haha... alright. whatever you want to call it. I'll go.
me: ill pick you up at 8
her: are we meeting there or are you picking me up?? (oops!)
me: ill come get you

Now to txt the other hoh girl and book her for 6ish...

Post: #674

(04-26-2013 04:41 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  Well that girl who showed me her ass was dropped off first. Should I make a joke about "maybe you should be dropped off last?" at some point? Say it seriously?

Half-joking/half-serious. (But, you are totally serious about it)

Did you drop her off at home???

What if you told her you would drop off her friends and then come back?

Or, tell her to go with you to drop off her friends and then the both of you can return to her house together..

Or, tell her to hang out with you in the taxi?

(04-26-2013 04:41 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  I just txted her

me: where art thou juliet
her: thy is traveling throughout the mighty land of (city). How are you!?

Havent sent anything yet. Just skip any small talk here and ask her out Sunday night, "come have drinks with me sunday at (bar)" ?

Yes. Set a date.

(04-26-2013 04:07 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  First off let me just say that I don't think of my talking to women as 'approaches', I don't frame my conversations that way. I just enjoy teasing women and bantering with them, ..... I just get into conversations with women.

I like this alot. Fuck "approaching" girls. Just "get into conversations" with them!

Post: #675

Supermarket Approach: I had to make a run to the Grocery Store around 10:00 Pm last week and wasn't dressed as I would have liked to and was wearing Glasses instead of Contacts.

I am getting Bread and someone passes behind me , I look and see very colorful tattoo on a White leg, couldn't see the face , Body looks nice. I move towards her and as I get a little ahead of her, turn around and open with..

Me: Nice Colorful Tattoo by the way, Looks very new...

Her: Thank you, kinda new, My Ex-Husband started it and a friend finished it for me.

Me: From what I have seen Tattoos loose color and yours looked bright and I like that, I wish I can get get a Tattoo

Her: Why don't you ?

Me: Work ....

Her: What do you do ?

Me: I give her a fabricated story , how I just moved from Florida and doing what I do ....

Her: I just moved here too.

Me: Let me guess California ?

Her: half right ... , I am originally from SF but recently moved from DC to get away from my EX.

Me: Well I am new here too, Want to Explore some local hole in the wall country food restaurants...

Her: Sure , why not

We exchange numbers and make a tentative plan to hang out, She made sure that I got her number and she got the spellings of my fake name right.

She mentioned her Ex- Husband couple of times and my understanding is that is a sign of availability just like when girls are not interested they will make up a fake BF.

I texted her a day before and she responded with " OH I made plans to go to a concert with a friend " I am a spur of the moment kinda girl . I don't know what to make of it, will give her one more chance though .......