Post: #2101

im in a clothing store.

I see a hot blond with a huge rack that is almost fully exposed by a skimpy shirt over a bikini. I wait for the guy and girl she's with to wander off. She's talkkng to her friends that are in the dressing room and hear an English accent.

Me: are you English ?

Her: yes! From blah blah

Me: nice I have some family from England.

Blah blah talk a while

Is that guy you're boyfriend?

Her: no, my sisters fiancé. I go to school here and they're visiting.

Me: well since you're in town for a while we should grab coffee

Her: I have a boy friend

Me: did I ask?

Haha she took it well and parted ways

Next

Post: #2102

University Campus:

I park my car and immediately see a cute latina with long hair, well dressed, and a nice body..

She is scratching her head as she walks.

me: does your head itch?
her: oh what? ya ha

I sort of turn to engage her but she keeps walking.

Next!

---

I see a hot little white girl with a dancers body, thin but athletic, long blond hair, tight pants, not an ounce of fat on her, bubble butt..

I walk past her about 5 steps and start a fake phone call. I want her to observe me and listen to me talk for a few moments before I opened her.. after a minute, I "hang up" and pretend to notice her behind me..

me: hi how are you?
her: fine thanks
me: how was class today?
her: good
me: you have an accent
her: I do
me: ya from where?
her: guess
me: um germany
her: no
me: let me guess again
her: ok
me: ukraine
her: wow u got it!
me: im good at this
her: yes u are

We walk and talk. She was very pleasant and sweet. I can see the appeal of russian and ukrainian women. They are so logical. It's really a breathe of fresh air compared to the american women that I deal with.

She wasn't interested.

Next!

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I saw a gorgeous white in yoga pants and a tight top, great body..

me: look at you in the all black, very sporty
her: haha thanks i guess
me: no u look good, i like the ninja look
her: what ok
me: whats your name?
her: jennifer
me: im gio
her: hi
me: u going to workout?
her: yup
me: need a personal trainer?
her: haha i dont think so
me: i will get you into the best shape of your life
her: u think so
me: ya u have potential

I tried but she wasn't interested.

Next!

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I see a stunning little white girl, she looked like a victorias secret model, petite and sexy, beautiful face..

me: you look great today
her: thank you
me: whats your name?
her: samantha
me: im gio
her: ya we met last year
me: oh we did
her: ya
me: did u hit on me
her: no sort of the other way around
me: what really

She still isn't interested in me.

Next

---

I see a cute, thin, latina...

me: i like your jacket
her: hey i just saw you
me: what where?
her: outside, i was scratching my head
me: what that was you
her: haha ya
me: were u thinking about a math problem?
her: ha no it was something else
me: u followed me in here
her: no shut up

She liked me, I could tell.

She stepped closer to me and asked me about myself. What nationality I am? Etc.

We talked for about 10 minutes about her major, cooking, eating, fitness, etc..

I took her number. We are texting now. I will invite her over for dinner. We'll see..

*****

It's only a matter of time until I get one of these college girls in my bed!

Post: #2103

First time I approached a Turkish girl today.

She was a bit apprehensive at first. I can't quite remember how I got her to open up and stay but my frame was just my typical dominant frame. We talked for a good bit and she did open up, but she kept her personal space for sure. Don't know if this was a cultural thing or just a bit of apprehension. I didn't get her number - she just thought it was "strange" to go out with a stranger. She asked if I were her what would she do?

I humorously responded that I'd be intrigued by this handsome confident stranger who's asking me to meet him in a public place, so he's definitely not gonna stab me in the back. She laughed and did compliment me for that confidence, but I suspect her "stranger" apprehensions just overruled her.

Maybe I should have just asked her for her number and then used the "if you don't want to text me back" line seen at other times in this thread instead of being specific about a date, but the takeaway was how much I got her to open up despite her apprehension at first.

If she doesn't blow you off immediately, maintain a dominant frame and see what can come out of it.

Post: #2104

Direct game needs to be used very strategically. I was going extremely direct all day just to try it out. I'm smooth, confident and forward. I only received 2 numbers out of at least 10 approaches. I wasnt running after girls like Krauser, but just incredibly direct. This was more of an experiment than anything. I did, however, get an instant makeout In the daytime with a seven halfway through which emboldened me to go for another 5. Later in the evening I switched back to my half listening, qualifying, aloof and cocky self. This worked way better and I'm sticking with it. My style is half clown, half Don Draper. I began with interesting ramble, shifted to disinterest, re engaged with false sincerity, and then proceeded to hit on another girl and came back to the original 30 mins later. She jokingly called me a bitch and I said "don't you ever call me a bitch again, bitch". We ended up making out in the parking lot. She's a freak. We'll probably fuck Friday after my injury is better.

Post: #2105

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Post: #2106

(04-22-2015 02:34 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  Direct game needs to be used very strategically. I was going extremely direct all day just to try it out. I'm smooth, confident and forward. I only received 2 numbers out of at least 10 approaches.

I don't know why your # close ratio should be so low with being direct if you're 6'3" and handsome. Maybe your frame is off or you're not approaching in the right places.

My # close ratio is much higher than that and I really don't bother with indirect openers.

(04-22-2015 05:00 PM)JamesRodri Wrote:  #1 girl

I say, "aren't you cold"?

She smiles and says no, it's not that cold. She's 19 and blonde. Skinny little thing. Turns out she's american and just came from italy. We keep chit chatting for 2-3 minutes whilst walking when I eventually stop. She stops as well and we're facing each other still talking.

I say; "so you wanna grab a drink somewhere"?

She says, well, I'm tired from travelling all day and I'm gonna go home. I don't ask for numbers or anything at that stage just accept it as a polite rejection. I follow up with, well I'm gonna soldier on and find somewhere. Have good night.

My experience with American girls is limited. Should I have pushed it?

A lot of what you think are rejections don't have to be, and I'm not even sure that can even be counted as a rejection. Yes you should have pushed it. Reframe it with some humor. You should have at least asked for her number. If she protested more strongly then let it go.

Post: #2107

Community college:

I saw a cute, little asian, clean, vibrant skin, nice clothes, good body, long hair..

I walk past her about 4 steps and pretend to notice her over my shoulder:

me: cool sweater, you look like a little candy cane
her: what ha
me: i was just at C's candy shop and i saw a little chocolate thing that looks just like your outfit
her: ha i could go for a piece of chocolate right now
me: me too, u have class right now?
her: ya
me: what class?
her: english
me: whats your name?
her: jenny
me: hey im gio nice meeting you
her: you too

We talked for a minute.

me: well i better let u go to class, but, umm.. wanna go out for frozen yogurt sometime.
her: huh?
me: frozen yogurt, do u like it?
her: ya i do
me: do u wanna exchange numbers or something?
her: oh umm well i dont know
me: its ok if u dont want to
her: no wanna take mine

Got her number.

Will put it into the "funnel"

*** Edit: We had a good text conversation last night.

---

I saw a hot blond, petite but sexy body, blue eyes..

Again, I walked past her about 5 steps and gave her a few moments to observe me, then, I looked to my right side and pretended to just notice her..

me: cool shoes, i like the camo
her: oh thanks
me: thats a good brand i have a pair of those
her: yes good for walking
me: exactly u have an accent
her: a little yes
me: where are u from?
her: russia
me: oh wow thats cool what city?
her: small town in the north u dont know
me: tomsk?
her: no
me: u like sf
her: yes a lot

We walked and talked for a minute.

why dont we go out for a drink sometime?
her: no sorry

Next!

--

At the market:

I see a beautiful white girl in grey yoga pants, great body, long brown hair, clean, clear skin, sexy..

She was walking out of a Starbucks headed to her car.

me: what year is your kia?
her: it a 2009
me: i'm thinking of getting one, are you happy with it
her: ya so far

I noticed the writing on her license plate cover.

me: are you from Monterrey?
her: yes
me: that is the best part of california
her: ya i like it but i was happy to get out
me: well ya when you are from there the perspective is different
her: i guess ya
me: are u up here now?
her: yup in berkeley
me: oh cool, u like berkeley?
her: i do
me: nice meeting you im gio
her: hey im stefanie
me: wanna get a drink sometime
her: no thanks

Next!

Post: #2108

some people are just better at direct and some are better at indirect. I get plenty of numbers running game, but I'm more concerned with how the interaction goes. I know by the end of a conversation if I'll be seeing her again. It was a nice change of pace though. Of course I could use improvement so I do things that make me uncomfortable.

Post: #2109

(04-22-2015 02:34 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  Direct game needs to be used very strategically.

I feel that ALL FORMS of game need to be used very strategically..

What type of game are you comfortable with?

What are your strengths and weaknesses?

What type of game is the environment conducive to?

What is the vibe and appearance of the girl?

What is my vibe and mental state?

What type of game do I need to work on?

I consider all of these factors before deciding to go "direct" or "indirect".

Of course, there is also the 3rd option of using the "hybrid" or "indirect-direct / direct-indirect" approach.

Strategic adjustments or lack there of, are always crucial to success.

---

I do direct for fun, excitement, sex appeal, charisma building, research, and to test how attractive I am to girls.

I do indirect to develop quick wit, conversational skills, and subtle flirting skills.

I use the "hybrid" method to further my game development and push myself to learn new skills and techniques.

(04-23-2015 05:45 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  some people are just better at direct and some are better at indirect.

Yes! Use the tools that work best for you.

Post: #2110

(04-15-2015 08:43 PM)Libertas Wrote:  10 approaches in a day? Where did you go?

I can do 10 approaches in about 90 minutes when I go to a college campus.

(04-17-2015 05:44 PM)Sketness Wrote:  I think that if i go to the JC not on a friday afternoon

Yeah, colleges are dead on Friday afternoons.

The hot girls are sleeping and getting ready for their Friday night.

(04-18-2015 06:08 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  I see a cute, tall blonde; easily an 8. I'm actually feeling a little anxious but that's what makes us better, right?

Yes, the approaches that give us anxiety are the most important ones!

Embrace and attack the fear!

(04-22-2015 05:00 PM)JamesRodri Wrote:  Should I have pushed it?

Yes, you should have. For the practice, if nothing else.

Post: #2111

(04-24-2015 12:41 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 02:34 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  Direct game needs to be used very strategically.

I feel that ALL FORMS of game need to be used very strategically..

What type of game are you comfortable with?

What are your strengths and weaknesses?

What type of game is the environment conducive to?

What is the vibe and appearance of the girl?

What is my vibe and mental state?

What type of game do I need to work on?

I consider all of these factors before deciding to go "direct" or "indirect".

Of course, there is also the 3rd option of using the "hybrid" or "indirect-direct / direct-indirect" approach.

Strategic adjustments or lack there of, are always crucial to success.

---

I do direct for fun, excitement, sex appeal, charisma building, research, and to test how attractive I am to girls.

I do indirect to develop quick wit, conversational skills, and subtle flirting skills.

I use the "hybrid" method to further my game development and push myself to learn new skills and techniques.

(04-23-2015 05:45 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  some people are just better at direct and some are better at indirect.

Yes! Use the tools that work best for you.

Appreciated. I'm still searching for my perfect method, but I know I feel more comfortable conversing with women in a library or on a campus rather than a bar or nightclub; those are places I just can't operate effectively. This day was an experiment to test my limits. I hit on girls about to workout, studying, with guys, or in large groups. Not many ended with numbers but I felt good, and it makes talking to a girl you see alone or with a friend a piece of cake. Sometimes my weakness is escalating too fast, but from I've noticed girls are always responsive; border lines turned on by my sexual suggestiveness, but their hamster would make them feel like sluts, since I mainly go after sober girls. I usually do a good job maintaining frame and was out with someone relatively new, but eager, to hit on chicks. While we both opened some sets, together and solo, some girls whose numbers I acquired confided that my friends thirst was evident; I think this is common when starting out. Hybrid seems interesting and I think I'll give that a go today at school I'm "attending".

Post: #2112

(04-24-2015 12:56 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  

(04-24-2015 12:41 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 02:34 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  Direct game needs to be used very strategically.

I feel that ALL FORMS of game need to be used very strategically..

What type of game are you comfortable with?

What are your strengths and weaknesses?

What type of game is the environment conducive to?

What is the vibe and appearance of the girl?

What is my vibe and mental state?

What type of game do I need to work on?

I consider all of these factors before deciding to go "direct" or "indirect".

Of course, there is also the 3rd option of using the "hybrid" or "indirect-direct / direct-indirect" approach.

Strategic adjustments or lack there of, are always crucial to success.

---

I do direct for fun, excitement, sex appeal, charisma building, research, and to test how attractive I am to girls.

I do indirect to develop quick wit, conversational skills, and subtle flirting skills.

I use the "hybrid" method to further my game development and push myself to learn new skills and techniques.

(04-23-2015 05:45 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  some people are just better at direct and some are better at indirect.

Yes! Use the tools that work best for you.

Appreciated. I'm still searching for my perfect method, but I know I feel more comfortable conversing with women in a library or on a campus rather than a bar or nightclub; those are places I just can't operate effectively. This day was an experiment to test my limits. I hit on girls about to workout, studying, with guys, or in large groups. Not many ended with numbers but I felt good, and it makes talking to a girl you see alone or with a friend a piece of cake. Sometimes my weakness is escalating too fast, but from what I've noticed girls are always responsive; border lines turned on by my sexual suggestiveness, but their hamster would make them feel like sluts, since I mainly go after sober girls. I usually do a good job maintaining frame and was out with someone relatively new, but eager, to hit on chicks. While we both opened some sets, together and solo, some girls whose numbers I acquired confided that my friends thirst was evident; I think this is common when starting out. Hybrid seems interesting and I think I'll give that a go today at school I'm "attending".

Post: #2113

Random thought related to the topic. Very good way to check how good is your "approach game" in daytime is to go fully casual and boring verbally and focus on most of your effort on subcommunication like body language voice and vibe.

So for example saying stuff like...
- excuse me.. one second.. hi.. are you French?
- no I'm Italian
- hmm French-Italian that's my favorite cocktail
- I'm not French blablabla
- ok where, Rome? milan?
- yes milan
- perfect.. I'm big fan of their footbal team we could watch their game sometime
- you're not in a rush today what do you do?
- I'm blablabla
- interesting..

Stuff like that. If girls don't enjoy that kind of a convo in general then there's something about your vibe that put them off so focus on that first and foremost. direct or indirect doesn't matter.

Post: #2114

I rarely pull insta-dates. When things are going well, I just ask for the girls number and try to set up a date sometime in the near future.

Similarly, I have only ever pulled a girl from a daygame approach straight to my house once.

Last week I pulled the ultimate daygame move - approached a girl at 3PM outside of class and 30 minutes later had her at my apartment.

Details: I met up with my boy who loves to daygame and is really good at it. Unfortunately he has a girlfriend so we don't go after it as much as we used to. We meetup and start approaching by my campus.

Approach 1: I see a hot blonde girl with a tight body and run around and stop her.

Me: Hey I just noticed you walking by and thought you looked really good, wanted to come meet you.
Her: (looking surprised and awkward) Um hi, I'm Maria
Me: Something about you screams performer, let me guess you're a singer
Her: No haha I'm just a pre-med student.

...Blah blah she's talking to me but my game is really rusty and I sound weak. I'm stumbling on some of my words and I'm giving off an air of fake cockiness, the approach just doesn't feel right.

- I end up getting her number and while my boy told me I looked cool calm and collected, I explained that some girls just stay in conversation even if they aren't feeling it. I move on.

Approach 2. I notice an absolute fucking dime latina girl walk by and think holy shit, time to redeem myself I need to approach her. I tell my friend to take out his iPhone and get a good video of this. He records the whole approach and stood very close behind her (about 10 feet, got great footage although you can't hear the audio)

Me: Hey I just had to jog over here because let's face it, you're sexy as hell.
Her: hahah wow, thank you.
Me: I hope that's not too forward of me, I just had to come over and say hi to you.
Her: That's very flattering, thank you.
Me: I gotta say you look very exotic, I kinda wanna guess where you're from but I don't want to insult you.
Her: No it's ok, you can take a guess.
Mer: Ok you're part filipino and part latin american.
Her: I'm actually from Mexico.
Me: Damn well I was half right.
Here is where I bust out my Spanish. We chat in Spanish for about 5 minutes.
Me: Well I know you gotta get going to class, I don't want to make you late. Let me grab your number and I can take you out later this week.
Her: I actually have a boyfriend, so I can't give you my number I"m sorry.
Me: You think he would mind if he saw us flirting like this in the street?
Her: Yes we've been dating for 2 years since high school.
Me: Well I guess we can pretend we're just friends, I hope he isn't the jealous type.
Her: No I really shouldn't. It was really nice meeting you though.
Me: You too, have a good one.

I believe she had a boyfriend, she was too fucking hot not to. I feel like most smoke-shows are taken, it's the average and slightly above average chicks who are the most single and slutty. Regardless, I felt great about the interaction. I genuinely thought she was feeling me and I felt my game was pretty tight as I had her laughing and swaying her body quite a bit. My mom actually saw the video and was impressed with my body language (she teaches body language and presentation skills, and knows about my passion for daygame. She's actually come to support it, oddly enough

Approach 3: I spot a cute little blonde hipster chick walking to class with her headphones in. I walk behind her for about a block and then run around and stop her.

Me: Excuse me, I hope I'm not interrupting a really good song (as I signal her to take her earbuds off)
Her: Oh no, it's ok.
Me: I just saw you walk past me and I wanted to come over and flirt with you.
Her: Oh haha (blushes) I'm Jane.
Me: Nice to meet you Jane, it's kinda unfriendly to be walking around with your headphones in like that. What happens when cool guys like me want to meet you?
Her: Oh yeah I always listen to music when I'm walking around. It's very antisocial of me.
Me: It's ok we can work on that...what were you listening to, let me guess old country music.
Her: Haha how'd you know? No, some old rock and roll band.

We end up getting into a discussion about our fathers and talk about what rock bands they used to listen to and how they both used to be hippies. This girl is actually pretty cool and seems like a genuinely good girl.

I take down her number and tell her we'll grab coffee sometime. She enters class and I text her 'Hey it's your future husband Spider...nice meeting you.'

She responds about 5 minutes later and tells me:
Her: Funny I came all the way here (she's a student at a different school, just taking 1 class at my college). My class is cancelled!
Me: C'mon, I'm not that easy
Her: Well at least it means you weren't making me late for anything
Me: Let's have a drink before you go back home.
Her: Sure, why not!
Me: I'm headin back to my place right now. Meet me in the lobby. Here's my address...
Her: Sounds like a plan

We met back at my place and I convinced her pretty easily to come upstairs. The chemistry was pretty good and I could tell she liked me a lot. It took 45 minutes to start making out with her, and I knew she wasn't slutty enough to fuck me then (she has some morals I think) and ended up walking her to the train about an hour later.

Conclusion of insta-pull daygame Jane:

The rest didn't take much game at all. The truth was she was super into me and we actually kinda hit it off. The connection was there even if my game hadn't have been so tight. We chilled again where I took her for a walk int the park and didn't even kiss her (because I could tell she had her reservations about whether or not I was a good guy or whether I just approach every girl I see).

Then, a few nights ago I had her over at my place. She was all over me but banging her actually required getting through an hour of LMR.

The Bad News:

- She had a full fucking bush. I didn't expect that from a cute urban Cali girl like her, or for any girl of my age-bracket honestly. A true hippie I suppose!

- She bled all over my bed (told me she is just super tight but I think she hasn't had sex in a long time)

The Good News:

- She had a great little ass and a very tight pussy.

- She loved the fact that I day-gamed her and I don't think she's ever in her life been approached like that.

- Daygame worked, and boy did it work well. A very very satisfying notch!

Post: #2115

Met a girl at a frat party we started dancing she let me feel her up and kiss her neck. I could tell she was DTF but her friends ended up getting in the way and I missed the bang didn't even have a chance to get a name.

Post: #2116

Two approaches today:

1st was a sunbather who was constantly on her phone but I got in there, turns out she was working. I got the feeling that she really wasn't that up to talking but nevertheless we had a pleasant conversation. She mentioned she's there all the time and she'd likely see me there again. At that point I should have pulled the trigger and just told her to give me her # and ejected. I stayed too long.

2nd was an unusual happenstance - I ran into a bitch. I think I startled her a bit for some reason and then she just snickered. No loss.

I actually met a game aware guy in Sheep Meadow so I've mostly just been hanging out with him for the past couple of days. He approached two students from the UK sunbathing and did well. He called me over to talk too but I held back as I didn't want to cockblock him. I almost have the feeling that he's a member of this forum and I just don't know who. Any of you guys ever get that feeling?

Post: #2117

Just a question, it doesn't deserve it's own thread: anyone ever tried "Business Card" game?
I've thought about handing a business card to girls I've chatted up in the past. It's for my own company and has my cell phone and land line number on it. I don't worry about the land line because I've got it set to go directly to the cell phone. I haven't done it yet because I worry about getting a "What's this for?" look from them. The advantage would be plausible denial. You can always say: "I was not hitting on you, just trying to give you my card."
I'm sure this has all been discussed before, just lack the time to search for it.

Post: #2118

She was working the counter at Aero postel (however you spell it)
Me: what time does the mall close?
her: 930
me: hmm so u guys aren't outta here until 9:30, that's kinda late.
her: yea, but i have 3 kids at home so not like im going anywhere after.
her co-worker: i actually dont mind the mall close late, its kinda convienent if i have to run out for a pair of shoes or suntin.
me: yea agree bla bla daid suntin about a scratch on my uptowns and going to the club bla bla
her: yea i cant ecen stay up when i go out anymore, always yawning and my friends making fun of me
me: yea i feel ya, my son here he's 12 so i kno what u mean think it comes with age
her: yea!! Im gefting old
her friend: i dont even have kids and im sleepy when i go out more often than not.
me: see i'm yawning now talking to you guys, well its late and i gotta get my son home. Nice talking to you guys
them: yea nice talking ur awsone come back bla bla bla
me: now i think i vould of easily number closed but i really have a hard time transitioning from indirect to showing intent and closing. Didnt help i would look bad in front of my son knowing we were going back to my fiance' ... i need to practice showing intent during an interaction.

Post: #2119

(04-30-2015 12:44 PM)ColSpanker Wrote:  Just a question, it doesn't deserve it's own thread: anyone ever tried "Business Card" game?

The Turkish girl I mentioned on the previous page actually asked for a business card. I haven't tried it though. It might be a way to display some status though especially if you're in the right field (ie: a hedge fund, a prestigious law firm, etc.) Would be interested to hear from others on this.

Quote:I've thought about handing a business card to girls I've chatted up in the past. It's for my own company and has my cell phone and land line number on it. I don't worry about the land line because I've got it set to go directly to the cell phone. I haven't done it yet because I worry about getting a "What's this for?" look from them. The advantage would be plausible denial. You can always say: "I was not hitting on you, just trying to give you my card."
I'm sure this has all been discussed before, just lack the time to search for it.

I don't know. If you're actively trying to convince a girl that you aren't hitting on her, I don't think your mind is in the right place.

Post: #2120

(04-30-2015 05:19 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

Quote:I've thought about handing a business card to girls I've chatted up in the past. It's for my own company and has my cell phone and land line number on it. I don't worry about the land line because I've got it set to go directly to the cell phone. I haven't done it yet because I worry about getting a "What's this for?" look from them. The advantage would be plausible denial. You can always say: "I was not hitting on you, just trying to give you my card."
I'm sure this has all been discussed before, just lack the time to search for it.

I don't know. If you're actively trying to convince a girl that you aren't hitting on her, I don't think your mind is in the right place.

Agreed, you don't want plausible deniability for hitting on a girl.
You want her to know that you're hitting on her so you don't waste time with a girl who's not attracted to you.

Post: #2121

(04-30-2015 05:19 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 12:44 PM)ColSpanker Wrote:  Just a question, it doesn't deserve it's own thread: anyone ever tried "Business Card" game?

The Turkish girl I mentioned on the previous page actually asked for a business card. I haven't tried it though. It might be a way to display some status though especially if you're in the right field (ie: a hedge fund, a prestigious law firm, etc.) Would be interested to hear from others on this.

Quote:I've thought about handing a business card to girls I've chatted up in the past. It's for my own company and has my cell phone and land line number on it. I don't worry about the land line because I've got it set to go directly to the cell phone. I haven't done it yet because I worry about getting a "What's this for?" look from them. The advantage would be plausible denial. You can always say: "I was not hitting on you, just trying to give you my card."
I'm sure this has all been discussed before, just lack the time to search for it.

I don't know. If you're actively trying to convince a girl that you aren't hitting on her, I don't think your mind is in the right place.

Good point. Also you can have business card say anything you want executive Vice President, CFO, etc. how is she going to know?

Post: #2122

Tried business card game with a cute #8 I met at a coffee shop this evening. Sweet little girl who was attending a local college and working on her liberal arts degree. Nice personality. We found out we had some common interests, I wrote my personal website on the back of my business card and gave it to her. She must be a regular at this coffee shop, but might not be there after the term ends. Guess that makes this business card and website game combined.

Post: #2123

^ I'm out of the approach game as I have other priorities to attend to. But, let's get this straight. Anytime you're speaking with an attractive girl that's not your friend, family member or prior aquaintance of some kind, you're always hitting on her. ALWAYS.

She knows it and you know it. Ejecting from a bad approach is okay as you can use it as a reference point for later. However, ejecting with a clear message that you weren't doing what you did is dishonest and shows a gaping hole in your frame. Believe me I've done that before. It doesn't feel very masculine.

Again, she knows it, and you know it. So best to be honest with yourself first and then also her.

Fix your inner game. Not easy but doable.

Post: #2124

80 degree day, hot girls in bikinis everywhere.

Approach #1:

By Columbus Circle. She looked to be a Latina with a great ass. She immediately revealed she was waiting for her fiance but we laughed about it and introduced ourselves to each other.

Approach #2:

Hot Peruvian sunbathing. I kind of startled her a bit, but recovered well from it. My frame was off on this one though. I used too much self-deprecating humor and it was eventually revealed that she was probably too old for me (she didn't look it).

Too much logic, didn't really get into her passions or hobbies.

Lesson: I am not going to use self-deprecating humor anymore. Oftentimes I joke about my "dorky" hobbies but this made me realize that it's really just an insecurity coming out. Girls will like my hobbies because I'm so passionate about them and that's it. When my frame is very strong I can get away with it, but it simply wasn't strong enough this time.

Approach #3:

She looked even better when I got close up. She looks like a half-white half-Asian girl with beautiful green eyes and a great, lithe body. She revealed she was a dancer so then it made sense. Once more proving that the hotter the girl, the better my game is, I went to town.

Dancing was obviously a passion of hers so we talked about it in depth. I related some of it back to stuff I like such as Baroque music and brought up a few other things. She was asking me questions where I was from, etc. so I knew I was on the right track.

Brought up wanting to start a business, which she said was good. I think I've been going too in depth on some of my professional stuff, so I just kept it short and intriguing this time, which appears to have worked.

She mentioned how her friends sometimes dance in the nude and how it was "a distraction." I should have taken advantage of this to get far more sexual. This was my only major mistake of the engagement.

I think I stayed a bit too long, which ultimately dented frame a bit. I told her I wanted to take her out for a drink but she said she had a boyfriend. I then used the line mentioned earlier in the thread:

"OK, we're gonna play a game. You're gonna give me your number, I'm gonna text you later. If you don't want to text me back, fine, I'll get over it. If you do, something magic might happen."

Not only did she give me her number, she actually called me when my phone was being buggy.

We'll see what happens.

Also, she actually wore a ring, but it was from her grandmother. I often don't approach girls with rings but maybe sometimes I just make some bad assumptions, as this demonstrated.

Post: #2125

I'm leaving a Norwegian girls house and in a part of town I'm not too familiar with. I stumble upon a farmers market on my way home (one I've never been to) and decide to grab some produce while I'm there. I see a stunning, porcelain white teen with piercing blue eyes working at a stand.

Me: how long has there been a farmers market here? (Genuinely curious)

Her: what? You've never been here dude

Me: did you really just call me dude?

We both laugh and talk about what we're studying

Me: don't tell me you're a comm major

Her: no, art, you? (Hah)

Me: math and Econ

Blah blah, I act disinterested and bounce because her dad is hovering HARD

I get what I came for and walk past her stand on the way out I turn to her and languidly re engage. I line forms behind me but I refuse to come back again so I casually invite her out to a coffee place. "I don't take strangers numbers"
And I stopped listening after that.
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