Post: #26

You know how you should never take a woman's advice on how to attract women? Same goes for getting feedback on an interaction you've had with her.

Post: #27

It is funny how everyone is missing the point of the post.

He is not really asking "if he should ask girls for feedback".

He wants to know how to close dates better.

Read between then lines boys.

Post: #28

I can tell by the dates the dude is on the young side/looks young. I have mentioned before that the custom suit is for older looking gents, I am young looking, Like you. Now back to point.

Listen to G on the rest, you don't need the suit. You need to venue change like crazy and try to close faster. example young guy date:

1. Meet at bar to grab a drink light touching at bar. Leave. 30mins.
2. "light meal environment" such as sushi/tapas whatever. Chat post the touching, sit aide by side, leave. 60mins.
3. Club. Dance move around, randomly go to the bathroom mid way through a make out, leave her there, smile at random girls and she'll interpret them as competion. Now close harder. 1.5 hours.

Hope that helps. The time spent needs to be in various places not one spot. Needs to feel like she has known you forever. The slower the play on the hotter girl, the more likely she will friend zone you. If she is good looking you actually need to close harder, when hey are okay you can slow play better since you have more room for lookin like a pussy errors.

Post: #29

Yeah, no suit if you are younger.

I wish we knew age ranges of posters, I always assume in my head the poster is the same age as me.

Post: #30

As far as taking girls on dates goes.. Always be escalating. First verbally and then physically otherwise you're just setting yourself up for the glorious friendzone. Really, if you can't do that, you're gonna have a hard time getting them into the sack.

Like G Manifesto mentioned, bounce them to different places to increase the rapport faster and if you can't do that, take 'em to places where you're well known and your status is elevated. Kind of like that scene in Goodfellas where they go to the restaurant and the guy knows everyone in there. A good alternative would be a place where you have worked in the past, somewhere you're comfortable and have people feeding your external status automatically. Hell, combine this with the other points in the thread and you'll be good to go.

On the topic of feedback, you shouldn't ask for feedback ever. Trust in your skills man.. The only feedback which ever comes up anymore is on her behalf during pillow-talk when you guys are all cute and bonding.. If she's sly she'll try and fish for a compliment and ask what it was that made you go up to her or do xyz during the interaction.

Post: #31

Yeah if you want to class "up" you can top out with a blazer and a v-neck. Polo and blazer. Different colored pants, brown, grey, whatever I wear white ones a lot.

Just remember you've got less room for error. If you fuck up when you're much older than said girl she will run her hamster "hmm is he seriously being a pussy or is he just toying with me" if you fuck up when young in her eyes "wow this guy is a needy pussy bastard". Think this is partly Misunderstood by game community. This is exactly why I've helped older guys with "game" at times because the better looking/ older/ status etc more shit u have going for you the more "mistakes" you can make.

End of the day though always try to look young long-term gives you longer time in "game" and a longer and healthier life.

Post: #32

(07-01-2012 03:29 PM)bigbait Wrote:  Hi guys,

I often do date game where I go for a few dates with a girl before I seal the deal. A lot of people probably think this is a waste of time, and they may be right, but for a variety of reasons I like to do this.

So this is the problem: Lately I've been getting rejected by girls after 1 or 2 dates, typically with a bunch of "Oh you're such a great guy, I have so much fun with you but..." comments. I know that they do have a ton of fun with me, and I get IOUs throughout (kissing, them touching me, them laughing, them playing with their hair), so I don't get it.

The other theme seems to be that I've been dating hotter girls lately.

It used to be very typical that if girl went out with me at all then it would be a solid.

I've thought about asking these girls about why they weren't interested. Now, I am not naive enough to think that there aren't a ton of pitfalls with doing so. But I am curious if anyone has ever done this effectively.

Thank you for your advice on this.

Would hearing a bunch of ambiguosly vague and cliched platitudes help you?

if so you should ask them, if not don't waste your time.

Post: #33

(07-02-2012 11:22 AM)Kikz Wrote:  The only feedback which ever comes up anymore is on her behalf during pillow-talk when you guys are all cute and bonding..

True, it's funny that a girl tells you the key things that let you slay her after the fact. If I feel as though even 1% of me is falling for a girl, I would never say why, I know she'd use it.

Post: #34

(07-02-2012 06:26 PM)snoop Wrote:  Would hearing a bunch of ambiguosly vague and cliched platitudes help you?

Consensus is don't ask. Well, it free so perhaps I will. Will share the stats.

Post: #35

(07-02-2012 11:22 AM)Kikz Wrote:  As far as taking girls on dates goes.. Always be escalating. First verbally and then physically otherwise you're just setting yourself up for the glorious friendzone.

I can't ABE, unless the game is to fuck that night. Making out kills the mystery for these girls.

Post: #36

(07-02-2012 08:45 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  He wants to know how to close dates better.

Very true, but i think about it like this. There is no better feedback than from someone who has seen you at work.

Even though these girl is experiencing life through a prism of confusion, perhaps there is continuity of experience that they experience through me.

Thanks to everyone who replied. I appreciate your thoughts.