Post: #26

(06-25-2012 11:48 AM)pitt Wrote:  I used to have the same problem for years only now i have worked on it. But let me tell you something, it will actually get you more lays if you become more persistent.

These are the prerequisites I use to decide to be persistent.

1) There was a vibe and attraction that was obvious. You got the feeling that she was up for a bang, but for whatever reason it didn't happen.
2) She's cool and has treated you well, hasn't been disrespectful at all.
3) The situation plays out in a way where it seems that a bang is inevitable. Here's an example:

Met a 26 year old nurse at a bar. She was slightly drunk and had wandered away from her group of friends and got to talking with me and my friend for a while. She relatively new in town and out with a large group from work. She invited us to go hang out at another place down the street with her and her friends.

So what was the correct 'game' move? Not go right? Guy should always be leading, she's probably trying to use you for drinks etc. etc. etc.

Well I did something surprising and me and my friend went. She's at a table with like 10 people she knows. We sit down and just chat with the group. There were way too many obstacles for me to get through that night. Anyway as we exchange numbers I tell her we should meet up for a beer next week. Walking back with my buddy, I'm like:

"Damn, I could have closed that tonight, I felt it. I don't know why we bailed."

Text a few days later. No response.

Wait another few days, text. No response.

Now what's the correct game move? Forget about it and chalk up to a flake.

Well I didn't want to do that cause I was horny and she had a great ass.

Anyway I text again like two weeks later, with something like 'Let's grab a beer this week.'

She calls me immediately and apologizes she was busy the past few weeks(bs)

I go out with her and get the bang. On the surface it seems to violate a lot of the things we talk about, but there were several subtle things that hinted that being persistent would get my the bang.

-She initially wandered away from her friends and was a little drunk. She isolated herself.
-She was new in town.
-She never asked me to buy her a drink.
-She was very friendly and agreeable.
-Seemed horny, responded to me touching her with no resistance.
-I had the gut feeling I was going to bang her eventually.

Post: #27

delete, accidental repost.

Post: #28

(06-26-2012 06:08 AM)Neo Wrote:  Text a few days later. No response.

Wait another few days, text. No response.

Now what's the correct game move? Forget about it and chalk up to a flake.

Well I didn't want to do that cause I was horny and she had a great ass.

Anyway I text again like two weeks later, with something like 'Let's grab a beer this week.'

She calls me immediately and apologizes she was busy the past few weeks(bs)

I go out with her and get the bang. On the surface it seems to violate a lot of the things we talk about, but there were several subtle things that hinted that being persistent would get my the bang.

That sounds totally fair to me, and have done that myself. I just move the flakers into mass text lists, and bomb them with texts like "Drinks tonight?". It works a lot of times.

The whole point is, as long as she doesn't require any extra investment from your side, what's really the harm in sending a restart text?

What really was disgusting about the aforementioned fat kid was that he pursued the chick for 2 years, while getting insulted brutally. Who the hell pursues, or even remembers, a chick they first met 2 years ago?

Post: #29

(06-25-2012 11:48 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(06-23-2012 05:57 PM)Moma Wrote:  pitt - Maybe it's my personality or something but I lose interest very quickly in lizards who don't put out or show an equal level of interest. I don't know if it's arrogance or if I need to get off of my high horse but I cannot pursue lizards for a long period of time.
If they pop back in my life, I may make a half hearted attempt to pull them into my private quarters but honestly, I don't even enjoying hitting a stale reptile.

Maybe it's a part of my game that I need to improve..persistence..

I used to have the same problem for years only now i have worked on it. But let me tell you something, it will actually get you more lays if you become more persistent.

I also like the idea of fucking a girl that gave me a cold no. I will act as if it didnt affect me, i withdraw for some time, then i comeback and push for the bang till i get it, if i do fuck her, im calling her all slut names while im fucking her, spitting on her face and shit..then just walk out and the bitch will never hear from me again.

Aint nothing more exciting than fucking a girl that gave you so many flakes..the woman that gave me the best blowjob ever flaked on me so much that when she was sucking my dick, i called her so many disrespectful names that she didnt want to see me again.

Hahaha sounds like that might be the ultimate satisfaction. I have a few flakers that I'd love to show who's boss with a spiteful fuck.

Post: #30

Once a month or so I'll go through my phone and find the girls who have flaked on me or didn't respond.

I'll send them a simple text that I stole from somewhere. Maybe it was this forum: "Deleted".

Most of them will respond with texts like "what?" or "Oh I am so sorry I was busy blahblah".

I set up dates from there.

Out of like 50 phone numbers I can pull a handful of dates and one or two bangs.

Post: #31

I think it is just as bad to be like super into a girl when you first meet them. If you seem interested but not too interested, you come off good but not desperate.

Post: #32

Texting a distant girl every couple of weeks has been worth it for me, and it's very possible to reframe your persistence as a DHV, when you do get the first date. But I wouldn't call this chasing.

Post: #33

How about this situation fellas:

Meet girl through mutual friends, she is all over me, asks ME to exchange contact info.
We keep in touch, she works late every weekend so it's kind of hard. We finally hang out once, we get drunk, hook up all night but no lay due to personal circumstances.
We messaged each other couple times a week. Been trying to get her to come out ever since, but I flaked once, she flaked 2-3 times since. It's been 1.5 months since we hung out.
She used to show MUCH more interest before, as in initiating convos, etc. The last 2-3 weeks it's been all me. But she has told me she's into me and that she is very attracted to me
She has only ever ignored 1 of my messages, which was me asking her about how her exam went. Other than that, she never ignores me when I start a convo with her. In fact, she's a big flirt.
The reason I have kept messaging her despite seeing a fading interest, is because I have a feeling there is something/someone holding her back. Because I know for a fact she is interested in me. Or atleast was, unless she just woke up one day and decided she doesn't want me anymore.

Do I keep persistent? Or has she lost interest, has it faded away?

BTW she is a good girl, I would say wifey material. It'll be a little bit hard but I know she is down... I'm thinking every 1-2 weeks message her once. If I can get her to come out ONCE more face to face, it'll be a close.

Post: #34

I think you need to learn how to juggle. Sure persistence pays out in pussy. There's no disputing that. But there is a fine line between persistence and one-itis. Be sure you know which side of the line you're on.

Post: #35

(10-22-2012 09:13 AM)1bliss Wrote:  How about this situation fellas:

Meet girl through mutual friends, she is all over me, asks ME to exchange contact info.
We keep in touch, she works late every weekend so it's kind of hard. We finally hang out once, we get drunk, hook up all night but no lay due to personal circumstances.
We messaged each other couple times a week. Been trying to get her to come out ever since, but I flaked once, she flaked 2-3 times since. It's been 1.5 months since we hung out.
She used to show MUCH more interest before, as in initiating convos, etc. The last 2-3 weeks it's been all me. But she has told me she's into me and that she is very attracted to me
She has only ever ignored 1 of my messages, which was me asking her about how her exam went. Other than that, she never ignores me when I start a convo with her. In fact, she's a big flirt.
The reason I have kept messaging her despite seeing a fading interest, is because I have a feeling there is something/someone holding her back. Because I know for a fact she is interested in me. Or atleast was, unless she just woke up one day and decided she doesn't want me anymore.

Do I keep persistent? Or has she lost interest, has it faded away?

BTW she is a good girl, I would say wifey material. It'll be a little bit hard but I know she is down... I'm thinking every 1-2 weeks message her once. If I can get her to come out ONCE more face to face, it'll be a close.

How did this go, did you fuck her?

Just for the record, fuck long persistence. I mean, you can be persistent for the first few days or even weeks, but fuck chasing a girl for months. No worth it.

Post: #36

It can pay back sometimes but not often. So as long as you are not investing too much energy into it then ok. I do contacts flakes once a month or on special occasions to see if anything pops and sometimes one of them do.

Post: #37

I see nothing wrong with persistence so long as you are gaming other chicks, and so long as it's minimal effort. I mean what's the worst that happens? You get rejected a couple of times as opposed to just once. The only time I don't persist is if I know she is in my extended social circle and will talk shit about me to other girls that I might want to bang.

Post: #38

Related: http://www.rooshv.com/how-culture-affects-game

"The long ball game is dead. Give her the dick, and give it to her fast."

I can't think of any guys I know after high school when it was their first girlfriend or something that played the long ball game and eventually got it. If a girl is willing to fuck you, it shouldn't take too much time or effort.

Post: #39

nah man, there are quite a few girls i banged through long game. The key is to do it passively - let things slowly stew while u bang other chicks. That way you aren't wasting your time, and you get an extra bang at the end. Long game also works quite well in social circles - sometimes you can't cave man for fear that if it backfires, you could have the girl talking shit about you.