Post: #301

My primary purpose here was not for girls.

I believe I did ask at the start of my journey here if anyone was around in Saigon but as I recall, there were no responses, just one guy I was unable to meet up with due to us constantly missing each other and another who had just left. And I did meet one "Highly-Repped" member who came, saw and got the fuck out as soon as he could based on what he saw.

You think I didn't see girl's tits? That I just sat here for 9 months imagining what they must be like?? Weird. I've seen dozens and almost all were unremarkable (but I'm not that fussed about tits so... I don't really care about size either way) I'm merely describing the reality of Vietnamese girls to you.

On negativity - yeah, my overall impression of the country and the girls was unimpressive. Do you want me to lie and say it was "amazing" with "the hottest girls in all of SEA!" (that is often quoted many times about Vietnam and is an absolute lie)

All positivity is of no value whatsoever, how can you make an informed decision? Might as well just write "amazing!" next to every country ever listed.

Well, come here and find out the long and hard way! I'm glad some of you have made a success out of HCMC and found some hotties, well done.

Post: #302

To add he is somewhat right there are real head turning girls here but the girls that are the same as anywhere harder to get... and they have Instagram pages with thousands of photos and beta orbiters, not something you're wanting to deal with if you like to be low key.

I went out for my first drinks in Vietnam at a KTV (better than clubbing) and I can 100% confirm there are hot girls and they are open to foreigners. Body language here is super important chin up smile and good eye contact to show interest smoking hot girls were coming up to our table and putting their numbers in our phones. This is only my 20th day here! I'm here for work mostly though.

Edit: Since I've only been here for 20 days it has occurred to me that I may still be in the "honeymoon period" expats have when going to new countries.

Post: #303

But KTV are Karaoke lounges where the girls are surely more on the P4P end of the spectrum? (I have not visited any KTV places in Vietnam (or anywhere for that matter...)

I would assume they are more for Vietnamese men and probably Korean/Japanese and Chinese men too, as that is their scene more than Westerners.

As for sky bars - I visited a couple, they were nothing special (maybe I was unlucky those nights) - the views are nothing much either when compared with Bangkok's skyline, Saigon has very few tall and remarkable buildings, it's pretty underdeveloped.

Anyway, I am leaving Vietnam this week. No sure where to try next, think I fancy Europe again, bit burnt out by SEA, and I imagine SA will be similar to SEA in a way, many poor people and general shanty-town vibes... I've never done EE so think it's time to give it a try, although perhaps winter isn't the best time to relocate there lol.

I fancy a place with clean air, different food, different looking girls.

But in all seriousness, I am really curious to see what the hot girls look like that you guys have amassed in your groups! If anyone would care to share, it would be appreciated....

Post: #304

(12-19-2017 12:48 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  But in all seriousness, I am really curious to see what the hot girls look like that you guys have amassed in your groups! If anyone would care to share, it would be appreciated....

So basically you're asking us to share pics of ourselves and our girls with strangers on the Internet. Really?

Post: #305

Sorry buddy but none of us need to stroke our egos that much. Should have tried to be more social.

Post: #306

(12-19-2017 12:48 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  But KTV are Karaoke lounges where the girls are surely more on the P4P end of the spectrum? (I have not visited any KTV places in Vietnam (or anywhere for that matter...)

(12-19-2017 12:48 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  Anyway, I am leaving Vietnam this week. No sure where to try next, think I fancy Europe again, bit burnt out by SEA, and I imagine SA will be similar to SEA in a way, many poor people and general shanty-town vibes...

Honestly man, I think you should move back to the west. From the look of it that's where you fit in.

Good luck on your travels!

Post: #307

I've just been informed that the term KTV was wrong to use as people might think the place was a shady sex place. So this one was more wholesome they had big screen TV's with MMA going and an open area with many tables and you get a table and they make sure you beer stein is never empty or without ice and order food and people go chat with people from other tables.

Post: #308

(12-19-2017 01:02 AM)Patriarch Wrote:  Sorry buddy but none of us need to stroke our egos that much. Should have tried to be more social.

Still, if SandStorm sends me pics of the "dozens" of boobs (from, logically, half-dozens local chicks) he undressed and tasted in Vietnam, I'll send him some related pics of mine too, in a brotherly manner and spirit! Or SandStorm, you could try to post here: /thread-26660...pid1702281

Post: #309

Eastern Europe is not the place to go for clean air, Sandstorm.. especially not in winter. Pollution is worse than Vietnam in many places. Have safe travels and hopefully you'll find quality pussy and peace of mind

Post: #310

Pollution worse than Vietnam? Horrendous.

Post: #311

(12-19-2017 12:48 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  I fancy a place with clean air, different food, different looking girls.

Japan. A land where you can bang anything from a Lolita girl in Harajuku, a sexually frustrated English teacher to a gaijin hunter in Roppongi anddd if you actually put in some work(which evidently you obviously did in Vietnam), you might bang a Japanese model too.



But we’ll probably see you bitching about high rentals in Tokyo in a few months anyway. Safe travels!

Post: #312

God I miss Vietnam. Sandstorm doesn't know what he's missing. I've been living in Shitbu for a few months and everything even down to the food is crap. I don't recall Viet food being drenched in oil and fat.

These guys are bad imitators too. Their version of banh mi is soggy 2 cent bread, thick slab of peanut butter, thick ass carrots, and a thin slice of mystery meat.

Post: #313

If anyone wants to meet for a beer some time just inbox me. Have been here for about 1 year. I live in Binh Chanh district.

Post: #314

(12-19-2017 12:55 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 12:48 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  But in all seriousness, I am really curious to see what the hot girls look like that you guys have amassed in your groups! If anyone would care to share, it would be appreciated....

So basically you're asking us to share pics of ourselves and our girls with strangers on the Internet. Really?

yeah - it's just some girls faces... I don't need to see your face

Anyway, getting the hell out of Saigon finally today, feeling happy already.

This place is a dusty dirt-bowl...

I'll miss Pho Bo maybe, it's good stuff.

Post: #315

I need some advice here. I'm gonna be going back to vietnam in like 3-4 months from now but I have been talking with a chick from vietnamcupid for like six months now, along with many others. She said she would come and pick me up at the airport in hcmc when I arrive but she has been pestering me to go to haiphong where she lives and meet her parents. She says she wants to tell them I am her boyfriend. I'm thinking wtf, we haven't even gone out yet and already you want me to meet your parents and introduce me as your bf. I'm not sure if she's just really conservative since she's from northern vietnam or if she has some other plans for me. I'm thinking its one of these scenarios or a combination of.

1. I'm from a western country and she's trying to lock me down as soon as possible so she can leave the country.

2. She's just very traditional and wants to show me off to her parents and get their blessing and wants things to become serious.

3. She wants to use me and pass me off as her "boyfriend" so that her parents stop pestering her to get a boyfriend. She's already 25 which I think is about the age when girls are under an enormous amount of pressure to get married or at the very least have a boyfriend. I would appear as a "catch and good provider" to her parents rather then the local guys who like to drink, smoke, and gamble all the time. After this is done, she can go date any of the local badboys she wants without her parents questioning her anymore.

Unlike a previous girl that I dated while in Vietnam this year who quickly revealed herself to be a slut who was a foreigner chaser (numerous red flags, revealing clothing, pics of her at clubs, slutty friends, numerous foreign guys commenting on her wall, two phones, etc.), I'm having a hard time sniffing her out. I guess I won't know for sure until I have dated her in person. I couldn't really find any dirt on her on facebook though, since she dresses very conservative, to downright country girl clothes lol. Her friends check out, and I have yet to see a single male foreign beta orbiter comment on her wall. None of her pics shows she is materalistic and her english is really bad. In fact, the first time I spoke with her we could barely communicate but since then I have been studying Vietnamese on a regular basis and can now have a basic conversation with her while she has brushed on her english as well. She does use facebook quite a lot though which is a red flag but in Vietnam, almost every chick is glued to their fucking phones and on facebook all the time. Compared to the last girl, who was a southern vietnamese girl from hcmc, this girl would appear to be the exact opposite but why do I get some weird gut feeling inside of me that something's not right. I don't know if I'm being paranoid because of all the horror stories I keep on hearing about guys getting taken for a ride in SEA, and how numerous people keep on warning me about chicks using men to get outta the country, or hide multiple bf's.

I frankly don't want to meet her parents or have anything serious yet especially being her "bf" since I haven't even met her yet and I want to date around and have more dating experience with numerous women in vietnam to get a better idea of how things work around here and to have comparisons to make sure I get the best girl possible instead of just settling for the first chick. I remember dating another girl from hcmc who was rich and I also got the feeling she wanted to show me off to her father after like the first or second date but I ditched her before she got the chance to "have her father meet her at the mall and pick her up." I just wanted to know if this was normal and part of the conservative dating culture in vietnam especially with chicks from the north or is this more specific to this girl.

Through online dating though, I have become quite paranoid and distrustful of vietnamcupid and have had some bad experiences on it. I mean I get a shit tonne of messages on it daily and when I was in vietnam getting dates on it was easy, but I have been the target of numerous scams, have had several hookers try to solicit business on it, and I always get this feeling that most of the girls on there aren't really genuine about actually meeting guys for dating but rather have ulterior motives. This was one of the reasons why I decided to study Vietnamese so that I can do daygame and social circle game once I arrive which I believe would be both safer and also give me access to higher quality girls.

What's your experience like guys with the local dating culture? I don't know if I'm being overly paranoid or if it's just part of the dating culture here.

Post: #316

If she was traditional she wouldn't be introducing you to her parents...because her traditional parents would probably smack her around for dating a white guy.

She's probably trying to lock you down so you don't fuck with other girls and later turn you into a green card providing cuck hubby.

Post: #317

(12-24-2017 03:28 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  If she was traditional she wouldn't be introducing you to her parents...because her traditional parents would probably smack her around for dating a white guy.

She's probably trying to lock you down so you don't fuck with other girls and later turn you into a green card providing cuck hubby.

I should have mentioned I'm not white though lol. I'm east asian and also was born in vietnam but immigrated when I was very small so I'm sort of used to some aspects of their culture. I would be considered a viet kieu).

Post: #318

(12-24-2017 02:47 AM)destiny Wrote:  What's your experience like guys with the local dating culture? I don't know if I'm being overly paranoid or if it's just part of the dating culture here.

My experiences have been very good. But coming from a divorce and one year with boots on the ground in SEA, I have a pretty good radar for scammers and posers and my game automatically filters them out from the outset.

Tell her this:

"I know you want me to meet your parents, but we haven't even met yet. I want to meet you first for a few times and get to know you better, before I decide to meet your parents."

Her reaction to this will tell you what you need to know.

Post: #319

(12-24-2017 06:14 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 02:47 AM)destiny Wrote:  What's your experience like guys with the local dating culture? I don't know if I'm being overly paranoid or if it's just part of the dating culture here.

My experiences have been very good. But coming from a divorce and one year with boots on the ground in SEA, I have a pretty good radar for scammers and posers and my game automatically filters them out from the outset.

Tell her this:

"I know you want me to meet your parents, but we haven't even met yet. I want to meet you first for a few times and get to know you better, before I decide to meet your parents."

Her reaction to this will tell you what you need to know.

I couldn't really tell since it was through text messaging. I told her we would need to meet first and then see how it goes. She just gave me a thumbs up. I guess I won't really know until I've met up with this chick and see how her reaction in person if she brings it up again.


Can you tell me what are the girls like in Haiphong? I read somewhere that women from the north are more cunning and deceptive and that Haiphong is a gangster city with lots of gangs and the mafia is there.

Post: #320

Has anyone been to any of the beer clubs, like Kingdom and Vuvuzela? Thoughts?

Post: #321

(12-25-2017 12:58 AM)glugger Wrote:  Has anyone been to any of the beer clubs, like Kingdom and Vuvuzela? Thoughts?

I've been to Kingdom. It's shit, save your money and don't go. It's all table service and there's a tiny dance floor right in the middle in which most peeps don't go on, unless they are with their social circle. It's very difficult to approach people here and there's security personnel around a set of tables. When I went there I was the only dude to even approach people but it was awkward as hell and I gave up after my third try. It's pure social circle game here.

Post: #322

(11-04-2016 07:26 AM)Patriarch Wrote:  Expat girls here are awful, don't bother.

I had a similar fallback plan if I didn't meet any local girls.

I met 2 European girls who looked OK from a distance. When I looked closer, I lost interest. European girls are cute, yet the ones I saw in vn weren't very attractive. I reckon the country attracts a certain kind of earthy, care-free type.

I think it's an ego crusher for average caucasian women to compete with vn girls. One Western European (WE), educated...girl I met at a swanky rooftop bar asked me why I don't go after the local girls. I just kept my mouth shut to let her insecerities flow freely.

She pointed at a girl dancing at the bar with her friends in a nicely fitted skirt and said,"I don't think that's sexy." The girl wasn't P4P. The WE girl couldn't accept natural selection wasn't working in her favor.

I didn't see many really attractive WE / EE girls in vn during my stay. Local girls (not all) were more easy on the eyes and pleasant to interact with than caucasian women. I'm equal opportunity. I'll talk to any attractive, well-behaved girl.

Every girl has the right to look or dress anyway (empowered) she wants...you go girl. There seemed to be a peculiar pattern for Western girls to come to half-way around the world to vn on a spiritual bent, wear pajamas with elephants and realize the local girls are way more feminine than them.

Post: #323

(12-19-2017 12:13 AM)STEEL_WARRIOR Wrote:  I'm equal opportunity. I'll talk to any attractive, well-behaved girl.

I've seen a few attractive ones here, but very far from well-behaved. This country seems to attract some eccentric western types. There's a thriving backpacker scene here so I guess word of mouth gets them here.

In the Philippines I've seen more better looking, seemingly respectable, western girls. They were all unusually tall. Seems like the shorter girls simply wouldn't venture there.

Post: #324

(12-25-2017 08:25 AM)jabba Wrote:  

(11-04-2016 07:26 AM)Patriarch Wrote:  Expat girls here are awful, don't bother.

I had a similar fallback plan if I didn't meet any local girls.

I met 2 European girls who looked OK from a distance. When I looked closer, I lost interest. European girls are cute, yet the ones I saw in vn weren't very attractive. I reckon the country attracts a certain kind of earthy, care-free type.

I think it's an ego crusher for average caucasian women to compete with vn girls. One Western European (WE), educated...girl I met at a swanky rooftop bar asked me why I don't go after the local girls. I just kept my mouth shut to let her insecerities flow freely.

She pointed at a girl dancing at the bar with her friends in a nicely fitted skirt and said,"I don't think that's sexy." The girl wasn't P4P. The WE girl couldn't accept natural selection wasn't working in her favor.

I didn't see many really attractive WE / EE girls in vn during my stay. Local girls (not all) were more easy on the eyes and pleasant to interact with than caucasian women. I'm equal opportunity. I'll talk to any attractive, well-behaved girl.

Every girl has the right to look or dress anyway (empowered) she wants...you go girl. There seemed to be a peculiar pattern for Western girls to come to half-way around the world to vn on a spiritual bent, wear pajamas with elephants and realize the local girls are way more feminine than them.

Yup, if you thought western chicks are bad in the west, wait till you deal with the ones that have moved out here. Unfortunately it's not just VN but all over Asia you have to deal with this

Imagine having absolutely everything you own way for so many years in your own country, worshipped by guys with no better options. Then you move out to Asia and suddenly find yourself comprehensively played off the park by the local chicks. Indeed it's ego crushing.

However instead of dealing with it by improving themselves, they end up instead dealing with it with denial. Doubling down on the snark, putting even less effort into their appearance and massively trying to shame you for even showing the slightest interest in Asian girls. Therefore making themselves even less attractive than they were before you had the displeasure of chatting to them.

The irony is that these chicks are often even easier to bed than the local girls (esp true for VN). Given most guys will ignore them for the locals so you don't have much competition to deal with, plus they'll have a more laissez-faire attitude to sex being outside their home country ('girls on tour' and all that). But to be honest getting them into the sack is generally not worth the price of having to dealing with their bullshit. If that is you've not already been turned completely off by their drunken lad-ette behavior.

Still, if a chick is hot then I go for her regardless whether she's asian or white and I give her a fair crack of the whip. But for white chicks out here I am almost always left disappointed with their stinking attitudes.

Post: #325

I 100% agree with Irish's observation as it is correct fempats go bananas when you mention you are going on a date with a local girl. The yankee girl who was giving me some serious iois but over the top ones like flashing her self at me she got angry as hell when a Viet girl asked me to put my number in her phone to give her "English lessons" the yankee girl did a complete 180 in her behavior and was acting like a jealous little girl and telling the other girl flat mate how she wants to have "angry sex with someone right now".

Err back on topic, got my first date with a Vietnamese girl. Was smooth, when I offered to show her the rooftop of my apartment building she said "not this time" and I got a goodbye handshake (yes I am retarded I should have given her a hug or kiss) and as soon as she got home she's text me she had a fun time and wants date two.

Tl;dr Forum members saying 1st date bangs with Viet girls are rare without much pre-date talking are 100% correct.