Post: #251

Ya, you'll have no issues finding a nice pair.

The difficulty will be the padding - lots of padded bras.

Post: #252

(11-12-2017 11:56 AM)Malone Wrote:  Ya, you'll have no issues finding a nice pair.

The difficulty will be the padding - lots of padded bras.

Thx for the feedback Malone.

One last tangential question for not just Malone, but for anyone with knowledge of Vietnam and Viet men...

We can say in Western societies (certainly here in the States) that, all things being equal, Western men (in general) prefer a LTR with a C or D cup girl vs. an A or B cup girl.

How does this attitude compare to Viet men? Are they indifferent to a Viet woman's breast size? Or can we say that all things being equal, Viet men also prefer bigger tits?

Post: #253

(11-12-2017 11:56 AM)Malone Wrote:  Ya, you'll have no issues finding a nice pair.

The difficulty will be the padding - lots of padded bras.

Haha, this made me laugh. Very true, i took a girl back to my hotel..Had to pay for an extra room :/ and she looked like she had at least C's, takes her bra off and basically flat chested, she was still hot but first time i've ever been fooled like that.

Post: #254

(11-12-2017 01:50 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

(11-11-2017 01:06 PM)ligastar Wrote:  General question about Viet women (discounting all fatties from this discussion). I've never been to Vietnam, but I'm guessing that it's a land of A cups and B cups (but on a tiny frame the B cups can look quite nice). I'm a big tits man and was wondering if seeing C cups (and a guy can dream... D cups) is a rare occasion.
Thx in advance.

To find a C or D on an East Asian girl is traditionally difficult, it’s out there but comparatively to a western or African body structure, they are less common. That being said, i find Vietnamese girls to have the best figures among most Asian girls. My LTR is a C and I simply marvel at the fact that with such a slim figure, she manages to maintain all the weight above

I can confirm what Zerdame says. I want to add one thing. If you find a girl with a nice rack that you like... check out her whole family before settling on her.

My wife is a C cup. All of her maternal cousins are very skinny and have huge tits. This is a genetic trait and it runs in families. It's like that all over the world, but it's more pronounced in places like Vietnam because they are all skinny. In the West a good looking girl isn't going to have 15 to 20 cousins that are thin and attractive.

(11-12-2017 04:40 PM)ligastar Wrote:  One last tangential question for not just Malone, but for anyone with knowledge of Vietnam and Viet men...
We can say in Western societies (certainly here in the States) that, all things being equal, Western men (in general) prefer a LTR with a C or D cup girl vs. an A or B cup girl.
How does this attitude compare to Viet men? Are they indifferent to a Viet woman's breast size? Or can we say that all things being equal, Viet men also prefer bigger tits?

I spend a lot of time with Viet guys when I'm over there. We like to talk about hourglass figures. Viet guys talk about a woman's S curve. They LOVE big boobs, but like slim and petite more. They will not chase chubby girls with big tits like Western guys do. Also, in my experience they tend to like small hips and flat asses.

Here is the money advice. Viet guys like taller girls with white skin. Girls in Vietnam that are short and dark are kind of like fat girls in the US. These girls know they will get better play with Western men and gravitate that direction. You will find a larger number of girls looking for Western BF's are short and dark.

One final thing to add. To understand a big part of why Western guys are so attractive in Vietnam to everyday girls... you have to understand the culture. Once a girl gets married she is at the mercy of her in-laws. Vietnamese Mother-In-Laws have a reputation of being straight from hell. Western MILs are largely not involved and easy to deal with. You have no idea how big of a deal this is when it comes to choosing a husband in Vietnam.

Post: #255

(11-13-2017 12:54 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  you have to understand the culture. Once a girl gets married she is at the mercy of her in-laws. Vietnamese Mother-In-Laws have a reputation of being straight from hell.

Can you elaborate more on that? I'm interested.

Post: #256

(11-13-2017 12:54 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  I spend a lot of time with Viet guys when I'm over there. We like to talk about hourglass figures. Viet guys talk about a woman's S curve. They LOVE big boobs, but like slim and petite more. They will not chase chubby girls with big tits like Western guys do. Also, in my experience they tend to like small hips and flat asses.

Here is the money advice. Viet guys like taller girls with white skin. Girls in Vietnam that are short and dark are kind of like fat girls in the US. These girls know they will get better play with Western men and gravitate that direction. You will find a larger number of girls looking for Western BF's are short and dark.

I'm curious about Vietnam, but that body type, light skin, flat butt, big boobs, and that very Vietnamese nose, it's just not my thing.

Filipinas tend to have small breasts and nice butts, and while the ones with that Visayan, smushed-in nose are definitely not my type, there's a small percentage that have this really cute button nose coupled with beautiful Chinese eyes that just does it for me. That combination of a nice butt, small breasts, Chinese eyes, a very refined-looking button nose, about 5'2" height, and anywhere from lighter (but not Vietnamese-photoshop-looking-white) to tan to brown skin is my type. Aside from my favorite combination of features that I described above, there's a variety of other ethnic/racial mixes in the Philippines that produce some stunningly cute girls.

I've looked and looked all over the Vietnam dating sites, but it looks like Vietnamese girls have this very specific Vietnamese nose, I haven't seen any yet with the nose that I like.

I wish I had because if Vietnamese girls had that small, refined-looking button nose some Filipinas have, and nicer butts, Vietnam would definitely move up a few points for me.

That said, I'm sure there's variance, Vietnam's a fairly large country (population-wise), but at least from dating sites, there seems to be much less variance in their looks compared to the much larger variance in looks between Filipina girls due the mix of Negrito/Malay/Chinese/Spanish/American/Japanese blood they've got.

Post: #257

(11-13-2017 01:04 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 12:54 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  you have to understand the culture. Once a girl gets married she is at the mercy of her in-laws. Vietnamese Mother-In-Laws have a reputation of being straight from hell.

Can you elaborate more on that? I'm interested.

I think it’s Asian MIL in general. Due to Asian culture and emphasize on filial piety and how women traditionally moves into the man’s house(and by default his family) after marriage, daughter in laws are expected to serve the family. This means household chores, interférence(sometimes even jealousy) by MIL into their love life as they ‘compete’ for the husband/son’s attention and because respecting your elders is a big thing, you are sometimes forced to swallow your ego even though you’re correct.

Comparatively, the stereotype of a western MIL is that she is chill and relax(at least what they see in movies) and wouldn’t be forcing them to go through the family hierarchy.

Post: #258

(11-13-2017 01:04 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 12:54 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  you have to understand the culture. Once a girl gets married she is at the mercy of her in-laws. Vietnamese Mother-In-Laws have a reputation of being straight from hell.

Can you elaborate more on that? I'm interested.

Think about it like this... in American culture what does a grooms family expect from his future bride? Not much, right?

In Vietnam she is expected to provide total obedience to her MIL. Often they will live with the grooms family after marriage to save money for their own house. Sometimes they are expected to never leave. From the point of marriage onward a woman is expected to do and follow what her MIL commands.

Here is an article where a girl kind of talks about it.

https://bicoastalbitchin.com/2009/03/01/...amese-guy/

(11-13-2017 01:28 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  I think it’s Asian MIL in general. Due to Asian culture and emphasize on filial piety and how women traditionally moves into the man’s house(and by default his family) after marriage, daughter in laws are expected to serve the family. This means household chores, interférence(sometimes even jealousy) by MIL into their love life as they ‘compete’ for the husband/son’s attention and because respecting your elders is a big thing, you are sometimes forced to swallow your ego even though you’re correct.
Comparatively, the stereotype of a western MIL is that she is chill and relax(at least what they see in movies) and wouldn’t be forcing them to go through the family hierarchy.

I believe that there are a lot of expectations specific to Vietnamese culture for a woman. Whether it's true or not, many believe marrying a Korean or Japanese guy will get them out of these cultural expectations. Chinese not so much, and they kind of look down on other SEA cultures.

I have a friend who married a Korean guy and moved off to Seoul. It lasted a good 3 years until finally the MIL drove her out. Her stories are pretty similar to what I hear about Vietnamese MILs. The biggest difference being that this Korean lady was always polite but demanding. Vietnamese have this way of Zero Fucks style criticism that is just designed to create tears. My wife has a cousin who married an American Vietnamese guy, they live in San Jose. His mother controls and criticizes everything she does. This girl is like 85 lbs and the old witch is always telling not to eat because she will get "fat".

Post: #259

(11-13-2017 01:16 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  I'm curious about Vietnam, but that body type, light skin, flat butt, big boobs, and that very Vietnamese nose, it's just not my thing.
Filipinas tend to have small breasts and nice butts, and while the ones with that Visayan, smushed-in nose are definitely not my type, there's a small percentage that have this really cute button nose coupled with beautiful Chinese eyes that just does it for me. That combination of a nice butt, small breasts, Chinese eyes, a very refined-looking button nose, about 5'2" height, and anywhere from lighter (but not Vietnamese-photoshop-looking-white) to tan to brown skin is my type. Aside from my favorite combination of features that I described above, there's a variety of other ethnic/racial mixes in the Philippines that produce some stunningly cute girls.
I've looked and looked all over the Vietnam dating sites, but it looks like Vietnamese girls have this very specific Vietnamese nose, I haven't seen any yet with the nose that I like.
I wish I had because if Vietnamese girls had that small, refined-looking button nose some Filipinas have, and nicer butts, Vietnam would definitely move up a few points for me.
That said, I'm sure there's variance, Vietnam's a fairly large country (population-wise), but at least from dating sites, there seems to be much less variance in their looks compared to the much larger variance in looks between Filipina girls due the mix of Negrito/Malay/Chinese/Spanish/American/Japanese blood they've got.

Every guy has his thing. Personal tastes vary widely... and that is a good thing.

But... just so we are on the same page... you don't like this look?



This is the common Vietnamese nose. I think it's really only us Western guys that are so obsessive about nose shape. Other cultures focus on different stuff... face shape, eye shape. You really don't think this is attractive?

Post: #260

(11-13-2017 08:55 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  This is the common Vietnamese nose. I think it's really only us Western guys that are so obsessive about nose shape.

That girl's cute with nice cans. But I don't think Western guys are the only ones obsessed about nose shape. Every single Asian girl I've bedded has pinched my nose at least once. Every one of them. It's gotten to the point where it's getting annoying. My point is, it's definitely on their minds... wanting a pointier nose, or at least a more prominent bridge between the eyes.

Me? I just think their small flat noses are cute. But that's about it.

Post: #261

(11-13-2017 10:02 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  That girl's cute with nice cans. But I don't think Western guys are the only ones obsessed about nose shape. Every single Asian girl I've bedded has pinched my nose at least once. Every one of them. It's gotten to the point where it's getting annoying. My point is, it's definitely on their minds... wanting a pointier nose, or at least a more prominent bridge between the eyes.
Me? I just think their small flat noses are cute. But that's about it.

Yes, Yes... I should have mentioned that. It's not the same.

It's not the nose shape, it's the high bridge. They call it a "high nose". They actually get those implanted through plastic surgery. It's a common procedure. Let me give you some picture examples. I've heard a couple times that the perfect nose is "mũi dọc dừa". I don't know the word Doc, but I think it roughly translates into coconut nose.

Post: #262

(11-13-2017 10:31 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:02 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  That girl's cute with nice cans. But I don't think Western guys are the only ones obsessed about nose shape. Every single Asian girl I've bedded has pinched my nose at least once. Every one of them. It's gotten to the point where it's getting annoying. My point is, it's definitely on their minds... wanting a pointier nose, or at least a more prominent bridge between the eyes.
Me? I just think their small flat noses are cute. But that's about it.

Yes, Yes... I should have mentioned that. It's not the same.

It's not the nose shape, it's the high bridge. They call it a "high nose". They actually get those implanted through plastic surgery. It's a common procedure.

This is actually making masturbating into a potted plant seem less weird.

Post: #263

(11-13-2017 10:57 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  This is actually making masturbating into a potted plant seem less weird.

I didn't even know that was a thing... have you actually done that?

Ligastar asked some questions about Vietnamese beauty standards. I'm trying to provide what little insight I have.

Asians in general are very crazy about face shapes, much more than we are in the west. This is why shaving the jaw bone is such a common surgical procedure for both men and women.

Post: #264

(11-13-2017 11:17 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:57 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  This is actually making masturbating into a potted plant seem less weird.

I didn't even know that was a thing... have you actually done that?

Post: #265

(11-13-2017 08:55 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  This is the common Vietnamese nose. I think it's really only us Western guys that are so obsessive about nose shape. Other cultures focus on different stuff... face shape, eye shape. You really don't think this is attractive?

She's cute, but I'd have to see her from behind, if her butt is flat...I mean she's really cute from the front, I'll give you that. Her nose is cute too, I like it, I would have no complaints with that, but her overall face...it's cute...but there's this other look I prefer.

Sending you a PM so you can see what I'm talking about, don't share those pics, delete them, preferably!

(11-13-2017 10:02 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:55 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  This is the common Vietnamese nose. I think it's really only us Western guys that are so obsessive about nose shape.

That girl's cute with nice cans. But I don't think Western guys are the only ones obsessed about nose shape. Every single Asian girl I've bedded has pinched my nose at least once. Every one of them. It's gotten to the point where it's getting annoying. My point is, it's definitely on their minds... wanting a pointier nose, or at least a more prominent bridge between the eyes.

Me? I just think their small flat noses are cute. But that's about it.

Sending you some pics as well, CleanSlate, delete as well!

Post: #266

(11-13-2017 10:02 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:55 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  This is the common Vietnamese nose. I think it's really only us Western guys that are so obsessive about nose shape.

That girl's cute with nice cans. But I don't think Western guys are the only ones obsessed about nose shape. Every single Asian girl I've bedded has pinched my nose at least once. Every one of them. It's gotten to the point where it's getting annoying. My point is, it's definitely on their minds... wanting a pointier nose, or at least a more prominent bridge between the eyes.

Me? I just think their small flat noses are cute. But that's about it.

Exactly, when that "bridge" is sunken in, like in many of the Visayan type, it's just not a look I'm into. I like a cute, small nose with a not-sunken-in bridge, and on the Vietnamese side, the pretty common small nose, but with very wide nostrils, is also not my thing.

Post: #267

(11-13-2017 06:34 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:02 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:55 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  This is the common Vietnamese nose. I think it's really only us Western guys that are so obsessive about nose shape.

That girl's cute with nice cans. But I don't think Western guys are the only ones obsessed about nose shape. Every single Asian girl I've bedded has pinched my nose at least once. Every one of them. It's gotten to the point where it's getting annoying. My point is, it's definitely on their minds... wanting a pointier nose, or at least a more prominent bridge between the eyes.

Me? I just think their small flat noses are cute. But that's about it.

Exactly, when that "bridge" is sunken in, like in many of the Visayan type, it's just not a look I'm into. I like a cute, small nose with a not-sunken-in bridge, and on the Vietnamese side, the pretty common small nose, but with very wide nostrils, is also not my thing.

What these girls actually need is called Asian Double Eyelid Surgery. It's usually done by someone named Dr. Lee. This surgery not only adds creases to the eyes and brings out the lashes, it opens up the entire area.

These services are not as cheap on some places as others. Just Google "Dr. Lee Pasadena" or "Dr. Lee San Jose" and look at the mountain of options available.

Aloha!

Post: #268

It's true.. girls in Ho Chi Minh City are naturally the best looking out of every Asian city that I've visited!

Post: #269

Just came back from HCM. Met up with Cleanslate and another forum member, Traveller for a drink. Props to CS for meeting up even though he has a flight the next day haha.

It was a chill trip. The main purpose was to make some tailored clothes. I did 2 work pants and 2 shirts to see if the tailor was good before making any big orders. Quality was good and came up to a total of USD110.

Closed 2 girls while I was there, one girl from my previous trip and a new one. Did some daygame and I found my results to be considerably much much more effective because I could now speak rudemental Vietnamese as compared to my previous trip.

I spent most of my trip with new girl because she was sweet, beautiful and could give good conversation. We went for spas, did some exploring of HCM and it was a good 3 days of rest. She sent me off at the airport with not only a gift for me but also for my parents. Made me want to pack that little frame into my luggage haha.


Will write a more detailed write up soon when I get my laptop back.


PS: PM me if you need the contacts of the tailor for those of you interested in getting some threads.

Post: #270

(11-20-2017 06:52 PM)Zerdame Wrote:  much more effective because I could now speak rudimental Vietnamese as compared to my previous trip.

Could you please tell us how much time and effort you put, in order to reach a "very basic Vietnamese" level? What is your native tongue, too, to see where you come from? Did you manage to reasonably master the Vietnamese tones?

Post: #271

I should be going to HCM at the end of this month Is it viable to rent a motorbike (scooter) for a period of one month? Just for inner city use.

Doesn't seem cost effective from what I saw online, but these are probably just rip off rental services ran by expats.

Is it legal to drive though? Saw some conflicting opinions and couldn't make sense of it.

Also if anyone can recommend an inexpensive gym (around D1) that would be great. I just started going again and only do dumbbells at the moment, so can be super basic facilities as long as it has aircon.

Thanks guys

Post: #272

(11-20-2017 09:47 PM)Malo Wrote:  I should be going to HCM at the end of this month Is it viable to rent a motorbike (scooter) for a period of one month? Just for inner city use.

Doesn't seem cost effective from what I saw online, but these are probably just rip off rental services ran by expats.

Is it legal to drive though? Saw some conflicting opinions and couldn't make sense of it.

It depends on the price and how much moving between districts you plan on doing. If you're just staying in D1, then probably not. You can walk or taxi everywhere in D1 fairly cheap. Mototaxi if you're feeling really cheap and adventurous. Driving a scooter in Saigon isn't very fun either in terms of driving and worrying that your bike will get stolen.

Only legal with a Vietnamese driver's license (not gonna get that in a month). It shouldn't be an issue in terms of tickets or anything, but if you crash your insurance won't cover you.

Post: #273

(11-20-2017 06:58 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 06:52 PM)Zerdame Wrote:  much more effective because I could now speak rudimental Vietnamese as compared to my previous trip.

Could you please tell us how much time and effort you put, in order to reach a "very basic Vietnamese" level? What is your native tongue, too, to see where you come from? Did you manage to reasonably master the Vietnamese tones?

My Vietnamese is entirely game-centric. So apart from simple phrases like “I don’t know” and “where is the toilet”, my vocabulary includes words such as “princess” Words I use to game girls with.

It took me about 10 online lesson videos, 1 to introduce the alphabets and 1 to introduce the tones. I use this YouTube channel called Tieng Viet Oi, it’s pretty cohesive so you can check it out.

To be honest, if you’re there for a short trip, you can fuck the tones. Girls think you’re cute when you mess the tones up. One of my favourite game to play with girls when we’re in an uber(stuck in traffic, which is most of the time in D1) is to read road signs or signboards as you “learn” with them. It never fails to get them in giggles and it’s a super good way to build comfort. Trust me on this.

I speak English, Japanese and Chinese natively. I also speak Korean, Malay, Cantonese and Hokkien(Taiwanese) It helps me alittle in Vietnamese because Vietnamese, like other asian languages, share Chinese roots so some Vietnamese words are just romanized writing of Chinese characters, albeit with a little twist in pronounciation here and there.

Post: #274

Expats aren't running any motorbike rental businesses in Saigon. they're almost all owned by Vietnamese, and they usually charge an exorbitant amount of bullshit prices, especially when it's cheaper to just buy a motorbike yourself in the end. if you search around, you should be able to rent a bike for around $45 for the month. that's probably the cheapest rate you'll find, maybe you'll get slightly cheaper if you search hard enough.

never had a problem with danger or getting bike stolen. park it in front of a restaurant/convenience store, or park it in a garage and lock it. they have guards that watch the bikes for nearly every establishment. it'll usually be safe. it's just a pain in the ass getting around D1 due to the horde of people on bikes and the traffic jams.

Post: #275

^ Actually there is an expat renting Motos. Was cheap and honest. If interested can PM details.