Post: #26

My father: Self made man. He lost his father at the age of four. He has worked every day of his life since he’s 11 just to provide for his mother, his brothers and sisters, his wife and his children. He found a way to work and study, graduated, married my mom and gave us a good life. He has showed me how to be self driven, hard worker, responsible and loyal to my principles. He’s the most vicious Atheist you can ever find.
Military and Political Leaders: I have always had a fascination for leftist military and political leaders. Marshall Zhukov, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Ho Chih Minh, Fidel Castro and more recently, Vladimir Putin. Whether or not you agree with their politics and methods, I am attracted to their long life commitment to their ideology, as if they have renounced to have a normal life and devote all their will and energy to build a New Order.
Cabaret’s Master of Ceremonies: You may find this as stupid. Have you ever seen the movie Cabaret? Well, in this movie dancer and actor Joel Grey plays the character of Wirk Singer, the Master of Ceremonies or ‘MC’ of a decadent cabaret located in some shithole in the pre-Nazi Berlin. The character is fascinating (as the whole movie). I was 19 when I watched the movie for the first time, and by that time my game with girls was just awful. So, when I see this lavish, intelligent, horny and ironic character on action in the screen I subconsciously learned my first lessons not only on game, but in life in general. Take the time to watch the movie.

Post: #27

I don't have any role models that I can think of.

Quote:Another thought, I wouldn't call them role models because I don't aspire for their lifestyle, but I am most definitely INSPIRED as fuck by all the migrant dishwashers I work with. They're typically Mexican, Salvadoran, Guatemalan, and Honduran. The shit these guys go through to get here and make what they make, only to send half of it home is really admirable. On top of that is their work ethic. While I have to listen to some miserable white actors/actresses bitch about their poor privileged lives and how they didn't nail their audition, I can go back to the kitchen and see these dishwashers, working their asses off, very often whistling loudly or singing in Spanish. These guys do shit no white kid would ever do for any amount of money. Clean grease traps, get on their hands and knees and scrub floors, ovens, burn themselves, bend over for hours on end on their feet the entire time, all for 9 bucks an hour. More often than not, they're the most cheerful and good natured employees in the entire restaurant.

Funny you should mention that because I became friendly with a load of Burmese suit salesmen in Bangkok. They work 12hrs a day, only have one day off a month, and get paid less than $200 a month yet they are very generous guys and they send most of their money home to support their parents and siblings, give them money to set up businesses, pay for them to go to school, so their sisters can get married etc even though they earn so little and live quite a low standard of life in Thailand. It's admirable.

Post: #28

I feel pretty lucky that I've got plenty of role models from my own family..

Grandfather #1 - Hilarious, self taught computer and email when he was 75 in the 1990s, used it better than my parents. Always had good advice.

Grandfather #2 - Self made investor and back woods entrepreneur, earned extra money when he was younger by taking bets at bars that he could deadlift the back or a car or punch a nail through a table...which he did.

Great Grandfather - Eloquent writer and speaker who earned national respect despite being humble

Great Great Grandfather - Gifted speaker who travelled the world as a missonary. I can't imagine what it would have been like working in egypt, lebanon and syria in the 1880s. Good thing there are pictures.

for the Great and Great Greats...learned their lives from family, biographies and autobiographies written about them. I never appreciated what a gift it was to have their lives written down until I started really living my own.

Post: #29

(06-14-2012 08:16 AM)Fathom Wrote:  

(06-12-2012 09:16 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  These guys do shit no white kid would ever do for any amount of money.

They do "shit" no one would pay a white kid enough to do. Alas, being exploited and non-white doesn't make them noble. I agree with you that their optimism is worthy of admiration. Others in their place would have probably resorted to bitterness and white-envy.

I have found many inspiring but have rarely if ever considered anyone a role model. In the end, they're just people. However, one individual whose life story impressed me is John D. Rockefeller, Sr. He took whatever he wanted and smashed whoever stood in his way. Might is right.

The recommended biography is Titan.

Rockefeller was scum, like the rest of his family. I don't respect people that make a buck selling snake oil.

Post: #30

(06-14-2012 08:58 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(06-14-2012 08:16 AM)Fathom Wrote:  

(06-12-2012 09:16 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  These guys do shit no white kid would ever do for any amount of money.

They do "shit" no one would pay a white kid enough to do. Alas, being exploited and non-white doesn't make them noble. I agree with you that their optimism is worthy of admiration. Others in their place would have probably resorted to bitterness and white-envy.

I have found many inspiring but have rarely if ever considered anyone a role model. In the end, they're just people. However, one individual whose life story impressed me is John D. Rockefeller, Sr. He took whatever he wanted and smashed whoever stood in his way. Might is right.

The recommended biography is Titan.

Rockefeller was scum, like the rest of his family. I don't respect people that make a buck selling snake oil.

Maybe you can criticize the way he made his money but you cannot deny that he was a philanthropist. I wouldn't go as far as calling him scum.

Post: #31

It's a pretty shitty role model, but I aspire to be as easygoing as Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop. Sort of figure that smoking will kill me before some intense gang rivalry though.

My other role model is Christopher Hitchens. He died doing what he loved, which was being smarter than everyone around him, smoking, drinking heavily, and telling organized religion and women's rights activists to go fuck themselves.

Post: #32

(06-11-2012 02:31 PM)Roosh Wrote:  My first role model was been Richard Feynman, a scientist with a player streak.

Feynman married his teenage sweetheart, who passed away from tuberculosis. So he was a widower in his twenties.

He attended campus dances when it was considered desireable for a co-ed to date a nice young professor. He would deflect questions about his WWII service. They would tell him that many military vets were returning students. He would reply that he worked on the Manhattan project to develop the atomic bomb, and they would slap him.

Once Feynman was in a remote place like New Mexico. An older player warned him not to buy anything for women in bars. Consequently he had a successful approach and date. But then he bought sandwiches for his date during the day, and she saved them for a picnic with another guy! His mentor advised demanding a refund. So Feynman told her she was no better than a whore and took back his money. She subsequently slept with him.

I don't know whether Brazil occurred before or after this incident, but I recall Feynman was quite lonely there. So I don't know if the game lessons stuck.

Post: #33

My Father is my role model. I hope I have balls half as big as his someday.

My mom died when I was ten, and he raised six kids, basically on his own. On top of that, he was a hero in Vietnam, owns an extremely successful construction company that he built from the ground up, and has swooped more women than most guys I know. When we were kids, we always wondered why so many "Aunties" were there in the morning making us all breakfast. At 60 something, his current live-in girlfriend is 30.

Everybody on this island loves Pops. He knows everybody.

My brother-in-law is on his fifth and final deployment with the USMC. My sister is a medical professional who's job requires her to work at an outer-island hospitals for up to 7 days at a time. I agreed to keep their son, my godson, when she goes away.

We dealt with some outrageous bullshit this morning regarding my godson this morning. Thank god Pops was at my house this morning when I got the call. My godson got thrown out of summer day camp, and I had to go pick him up, and talk to the administrators.

The way pops handled the situation is the exact reason I admire him so much. He was calm as could be, while I was ready to beat the ass of every employee at that place, and a few parents.

Within about 20 minutes, Pops had political officials, Hawaii's most powerful attorney, and various other people all on the phone. He drove his point home and without going into too much detail, won over the entire situation like a damn player.

The man just has a charm and presence about him that makes people listen to what he says, and follow his lead. It's incredible.

I love that man and hope he's around for many more years.

Aloha!

Post: #34

Howard Roark

Post: #35

Ernst Juenger
Stalin
Albert Hoffman
Yukio Mishima
Nietzsche
Anthony Robbins
Otto Skorzeny
and dare I say it... Roosh

Post: #36

Kane Sumabat

Post: #37

(06-18-2012 12:29 AM)Ubietza Wrote:  Ernst Juenger
Stalin
Albert Hoffman
Yukio Mishima
Nietzsche
Anthony Robbins
Otto Skorzeny
and dare I say it... Roosh

Your role model is Stalin ??

Post: #38

(07-01-2012 11:11 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(06-18-2012 12:29 AM)Ubietza Wrote:  Ernst Juenger
Stalin
Albert Hoffman
Yukio Mishima
Nietzsche
Anthony Robbins
Otto Skorzeny
and dare I say it... Roosh

Your role model is Stalin ??

Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro... a good dictator is hard to come by these days.

Post: #39

In recent times, I've seen a pretty big overhaul in most areas of my life, which extends to the people I consider influential or role models. Strangely enough, someone who's had the greatest effect on my life recently wasn't anyone particularly famous, or some war hero, or cool relative, or something like that - it was just a dude I met at my uni tavern and became friends with. He's basically a fuck up by society's standards (he is actually in jail now), but he was just about the most alpha motherfucker I've ever met. He was charismatic, charming when it suited him, smart - especially in social situations, confident in himself, and just did whatever the fuck he wanted, without regard for the consequences. He was the kind of guy that grew up in rough areas with rougher people and pretty much had that kind of lifestyle forced upon him, but had enough social smarts to still fit in with an upperclass crowd almost seamlessly. We hung out a bit, and he showed me what living that alpha kind of lifestyle was like, giving my first real taste of what it's like to truly be a man. After that moment, I wanted needed more. This led to me look for ways to become more forceful and commanding about my wants and needs, and become more invested in my self, rather than thinking of others first - especially in my dealings with women. Eventually I followed my nose to RooshV.com, and, in turn, this forum. I haven't looked back since.

Strange how one, seemingly insignificant, person could have such a large impact on who I am.

Post: #40

John Travolta in Saturday Night fever and Eddy Torres.

I have a thing for bubbly girls so i'd rather dance all day then waste time with being a jerk at all times. As Elvis said... "little less conversation a little more action!"

Nothing makes me feel better than having many people ask me why i'm so happy all the time, thats the end goal is it not?

Post: #41

I don't idolize other men. I just don't.

Generally what respect in men is a full package deal of content and character. Dumb athletes or spineless scientists are of no relevance to me, they will shine for a brief moment if at all.

Men who have a great intellectual capacity and an autonomous, critical mind and also some 'dark triad' sociability are what I strive to be like.

Richard Dawkins is an example. He is a bare knuckle debater against the ignorance and malice of the masses, but dresses sharp and is a gentleman. It is a lot harder to argue against him, then it is against all the logically-correct-but-autistic-as-fuck internet atheists.

Also, see the late Christopher Hitchens for an example of a brilliant mind in a rebellious body. He was an intellectual badass, being drunk on scotch and destroying the sober and boring competition.

Being smart means nothing, being hot means nothing, but combine them and you're on your way to good places.

Post: #42

(07-01-2012 11:11 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(06-18-2012 12:29 AM)Ubietza Wrote:  Ernst Juenger
Stalin
Albert Hoffman
Yukio Mishima
Nietzsche
Anthony Robbins
Otto Skorzeny
and dare I say it... Roosh

Your role model is Stalin ??

Yes. Quite the great man in the sense that he had a will of steel. From where he came from and what he achieved, he's one of the world's greatest success stories. I could add Hitler, as well, but that would be a little too politically incorrect. :-D Now, if I had written Che, I'm sure someone would've given me a pat on the back: only because most people are quite ignorant about what Che was about. But I like the guy, as well. I take inspiration from men from the entire spectrum: some 'monsters' and some 'angels.'

Post: #43

Che and Stalin were very different people, from different backgrounds, with different goals. Che was a medical student when he started his motorcycle travels. Stalin grew up in an abusive Georgian home. Both men embraced violence, but Che is remembered as a hero to the poor and powerless, while Stalin oppressed and killed millions of peasants.

Ubietza, I'm curious about your take on Che. I admit that my knowledge about him is incomplete.

My personal heroes are Thomas Jefferson and John F. Kennedy.

Jefferson's contributions to government, architecture, and political theory are among the most significant in America since our country's inception. He founded and designed the University of Virginia, spoke five languages, and was reportedly quite charming. I wouldn't know...I've never met him.

Kennedy was an excellent president, from the American pride he fostered with his aspirations to put a man on the moon to his skillful handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis. When he was serving in the Pacific theatre of World War II, his boat was struck and destroyed. Clenching the life jacket strap of a badly burned enlisted man between his teeth, Kennedy tugged the man three miles through the ocean as he and his men swam to shore, and then again to another island.

Post: #44

(07-02-2012 05:56 PM)polymath Wrote:  Che and Stalin were very different people, from different backgrounds, with different goals. Che was a medical student when he started his motorcycle travels. Stalin grew up in an abusive Georgian home. Both men embraced violence, but Che is remembered as a hero to the poor and powerless, while Stalin oppressed and killed millions of peasants.

Ubietza, I'm curious about your take on Che. I admit that my knowledge about him is incomplete.

My personal heroes are Thomas Jefferson and John F. Kennedy.

Jefferson's contributions to government, architecture, and political theory are among the most significant in America since our country's inception. He founded and designed the University of Virginia, spoke five languages, and was reportedly quite charming. I wouldn't know...I've never met him.

Kennedy was an excellent president, from the American pride he fostered with his aspirations to put a man on the moon to his skillful handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis. When he was serving in the Pacific theatre of World War II, his boat was struck and destroyed. Clenching the life jacket strap of a badly burned enlisted man between his teeth, Kennedy tugged the man three miles through the ocean as he and his men swam to shore, and then again to another island.

My take on Che? A man of action and not words: a true revolutionary in every sense of the word. I don't necessarily agree with his politics, but he was a master of guerrilla warfare, and that I do acknowledge. I just don't like the fact that people idolize him to the extent they do today: especially these 'antifas' and the like; they just discard his own racist observations and his brutal ways, and embrace his revolutionary tactics and rhetoric.

Post: #45

Mine: Tony Soprano & the Dalai Lama

i like their different approaches to conflict resolution

Post: #46

Don't have one. There are certainly people I respect more than others but I tend to view everyone as a failing human being. This means I don't place people above myself, nor do I tend to look down upon too many people. I try to maintain a balanced view of everyone.

Besides, I do think that heroworship is in some sense a sign of weakness of your own identity and sense of self. It's naturaly when we are younger but if you are past the age of 20, then something's wrong.

Post: #47

(07-04-2012 10:40 AM)Beachsidejarl Wrote:  Don't have one. There are certainly people I respect more than others but I tend to view everyone as a failing human being.

Besides, I do think that heroworship is in some sense a sign of weakness of your own identity and sense of self. It's naturaly when we are younger but if you are past the age of 20, then something's wrong.

Totally agree with you. I don't have any role models. I learn from others, but I'm my own person on my own path.

Post: #48

My Grandfather May he rest in peace. He was more of a father to me than my dad. Fathered a huge family, was an inventor and holds patents, taught me to fish and about being a man.

Seneca His thinking and philosophy have been medicine to me in my middle life.

Charlie Chaplin Total hero. I can't even imagine the life the guy led, the dames he had, the total creative freedom and all he did with it. True genius.

Werner Herzog Also a total hero of mine. Just nuts enough to be sane. Anyone crazy enough to pull off a movie like Fitzcarraldo has things right.

All of these inspire me. There are more, but these come to mind at the moment.

Post: #49

Floyd "Money" Mayweather -



I feel for this guy in so many aspects. Family struggles, overcoming obstacles and winning--I think he is tortured on the inside and fights through it like a man and makes smart decisions for himself despite what people think about him.

Post: #50

Travis McGee was always my player idol. El Mechanico is kinda the modern version. It's a Florida thing.

The others would be General Macarthur and General Patton.