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(02-06-2013 07:12 AM)Timoteo Wrote:  That's the WRONG Steve McQueen. Steve McQueen the actor died in 1980. This is the director of "Shame."

Just as well, because I keep reading "Shame" as "Shane":

Post: #52

Whoa. Half the posters who commented in this thread have been banned.

Post: #53

We are ashamed of them.

Post: #54

Surprise surprise! I knew damn well that this director was either gay or bi and certainly not a player.

Quote:His first major work was Bear (1993), in which two naked men (one of them McQueen) exchange a series of glances that might be taken to be flirtatious or threatening

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(12-12-2015 04:51 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Shame is a good movie.

This movie has been wildly misunderstood.

Post: #56

The Last Psychiatrist wrote about this movie here and here.

Quote:The important point is that in sex addiction the addict is not satisfied by the sex he just had because he is self-consciously aware that something unidentified is missing, and that lack leaves the orgasmer with an abundance of disgust and shame. Just went from being a made up disease to a typical Friday night. Right ladies?

This is something the movie does depict very accurately: after Brandon has some sex, he then immediately has some other kind of sex. This isn't an overactive sex drive, it is trying to get the sex right. That's the dialectic. After he has a quickie with a hottie, he goes home and masturbates. He climaxed with her, he was done, but it didn't take. It is easier to get it right with masturbation, not because the hand knows better than the vagina/mouth/butt/breast but because there are always micro-corrections to the fantasy happening in real time-- so the movie you're shooting in your head has a woman fellating a guy, but then she gives a certain look, and then you make her repeat a half-second of that scene using a different look, then you reverse time by two seconds and make her phone her husband; then that disappears and they're outside on the deck, and it's not her but another woman, now it's a whole other scenario with a different cast, and an instant later back to her again; and impossibly seeing the scene from all possible sides, distances, perspectives-- nudging it this way and that to suit that instant's arousal. In effect, you are not watching a movie but improvising from a melody, or, in more psychoanalytic terms, playing with yourself.

Post: #57

(12-12-2015 03:55 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  What the hell was going on between him and his sister. He accidentally walks in on her in the shower and just talks to her, they are always touching and grabbing and she catches him jacking off!

The whole film was obviously done by someone who has no idea about being a bachelor or even the relationship that men and women have. The gay club was the final straw for me...it did not shock me like the director intended but made me laugh "This guy is such a pervert that he just needs a warm hole to stick his dick in". It does not work like that. I have not seen such a horrible movie that made me mad for wasting the 2 hours in a long time..

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The film's defenders are giving it far too much credit. It is simply another film (white male depicted as degenerate, existing as a character just to be shamed, with all of the entangling PC shit) amusingly and transparently designed to bait the Oscars and Academy Awards.

Post: #59

My film reviews speak for themselves around here.. I might not know to much about anything but you better bring the big guns if we are talking women, movies or music. Real talk

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I watched this movie recently, I concur that I didn't saw this movie as "shaming single guys sexuality" the guy was an addict, that is the point, some comment about the fact of the director being homosexual. I have met guys who turn "bisexual" and it reminded me of them, those were not sane guys, they needed constant sexual validation. I think that behavior is not a bias but a confirmation of this kind of narcissist addiction for sex, think of Charlie Sheen, that kind of guys can get all the prime pussy they want and still can't fill the void of whatever shit that happened to them and end up doing really perverted stuff.

The guy is completely repulsed for her sister lack of self-control, and it seems that he has it all under control, but he still indulges in his compulsive behavior when nobody is around, watching her broken, addicted to other guys attention that she can only get through sex, makes him realize his own problem. That is the point when he treats her like shit for going after a married man, while at the beginning of the movie he didn't care to go after the girl on the train.