Post: #26

Not to hijack the thread, but this other experiment on the ratios has always stuck out for me. Looks like there's a shit-ton of reading when searching for "Plenty Of Fish experiment"--one with a guy posting a female profile and receiving 60 emails in two days.

http://memoirsofanamnesic.wordpress.com/...le-ratios/

Post: #27

(06-02-2012 09:54 AM)phoenix101 Wrote:  Not to hijack the thread, being from T.O. I like the the LivingInTheDeadCity website, but this other experiment on the ratios has always stuck out for me. Looks like there's a shit-ton of reading when searching for "Plenty Of Fish experiment"--one with a guy posting a female profile and receiving 60 emails in two days.

http://memoirsofanamnesic.wordpress.com/...le-ratios/

Online dating: World's biggest sausage fest

Post: #28

(05-29-2012 10:13 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  I've learned that if nothing else you can learn about the girls who message you by chatting with them a bit and hit them armed with your real profile in the future.

Brilliant. Did you notice a difference in reaction between girls you hit first with your normal profile vs. those you hit up after gathering some intelligence?

I'm going to create a fake profile on POF and OKC for the express purpose of chatting up girls I'm interested in, then swoop in a few days later with my real profile.

Thanks for the idea.

Post: #29

(02-04-2011 04:46 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  3. Guys with certain desirable, stock physical characteristics (e.g., tall white guy) DO benefit from the online environment more than others. It's like brand loyalty. If you went to a supermarket in a foreign country and couldn't read any of the labels, but then suddenly saw some Rice-a-Roni on the shelf, you're liable to buy it just because you recognize it. That's what happens online. Guys whose traits are plastered all over the media and benefit from mainstream appeal get better response rates. Guys that have more "niche appeal" have to work twice as hard. In either case, I think it takes more time than old-school methods for their group.

From the OKC thread

Probably the best post I've read on here concerning online dating.

Post: #30

(05-31-2012 08:35 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:03 AM)houston Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 07:17 PM)Gmac Wrote:  I almost want to set up a profile with a picture like that just to get the massive meetup numbers. Show up to the date and when they're disappointed tell them your buddy gave you her picture and said he was setting you up on a blind date.

Have you tried that? They usually want to talk on the phone once before meeting up.

I was using the fake jock profile, getting numbers and texting from "my friend's phone" because mine was broken. I would then pretend like I'm drunk, start talking shit and Houston would take over his phone so fake guy wouldn't break it in his roid rage. Game on....

Really now?

I haven't talked on the phone with a girl before meeting up with her in over a year... and over 100 dates.

THIS.

I banged a 7.5/8.0 Hungarian chick a few weeks back, having messaged each other quite a few times I rang her on an evening we were supposed to meet up but refused to pick up as chatting on the phone "creeped her out". Strange huh?

Post: #31

(01-02-2013 02:49 PM)brock sampson Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 08:35 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:03 AM)houston Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 07:17 PM)Gmac Wrote:  I almost want to set up a profile with a picture like that just to get the massive meetup numbers. Show up to the date and when they're disappointed tell them your buddy gave you her picture and said he was setting you up on a blind date.

Have you tried that? They usually want to talk on the phone once before meeting up.

I was using the fake jock profile, getting numbers and texting from "my friend's phone" because mine was broken. I would then pretend like I'm drunk, start talking shit and Houston would take over his phone so fake guy wouldn't break it in his roid rage. Game on....

Really now?

I haven't talked on the phone with a girl before meeting up with her in over a year... and over 100 dates.

THIS.

I banged a 7.5/8.0 Hungarian chick a few weeks back, having messaged each other quite a few times I rang her on an evening we were supposed to meet up but refused to pick up as chatting on the phone "creeped her out". Strange huh?

nope thats just how it is now-a-days

Post: #32

I did something similar with the face of a french girl so she won't be recognized.

The girl was probably a 6-7 at best, nothing special about her so guys would not loose their heads.

1 hour and 15 mins after creating the profile I was suprised, I had received 38 messages and 75 views.

And then I realized that this must be the kind of attention these broads get everyday.

If you really want to get a lot of 6-7s pussies easily on those websites, you seriously need to have great pics/ be good looking.

Post: #33

(01-05-2013 10:49 AM)le prince perdu Wrote:  I did something similar with the face of a french girl so she won't be recognized.

The girl was probably a 6-7 at best, nothing special about her so guys would not loose their heads.

1 hour and 15 mins after creating the profile I was suprised, I had received 38 messages and 75 views.

And then I realized that this must be the kind of attention these broads get everyday.

If you really want to get a lot of 6-7s pussies easily on those websites, you seriously need to have great pics/ be good looking.

If you're good looking, however, why the devil do you need to pipeline 6's and 7's on OkCupid?

This stuff's a complement to real life for good looking guys. For average and below looking guys it is a complete waste of time, except under special circumstances, such as before traveling. Your average dude with a little game will pick up uglier, fatter girls online (who nevertheless magically looked decent in one of their photos) than in real life, simply because of the sex ratios and hypergamous instincts of women in sausage fests.

Post: #34

(05-29-2012 11:48 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(05-29-2012 11:21 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(05-29-2012 11:14 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I ran a similar experiment, and was so disgusted and furious within a few days, that I had to stop logging into that account.

Explain?

Well, I'm still thinking if I'm going to thread out of it, so I have to keep things secret. It has the trappings of a fascinating discussion.

Sorry for the cocktease.

Tuth-

Did you ever make this thread?

Post: #35

I've decided I'm going to make a fake profile

I'm going to find a pic of a model about 30 so he can go after the younger and the older chicks, give him a great job and high income, and see what happens

I'll use a guy who's somewhat jacked and has a six pack

I think i'll have him message the chicks that I've messaged with but they dropped off or I got their number and they won't meet me and the ones who won't reply to me at all

I really want to see how slutty I can get them to act hehe

Post: #36

i made a fake male model profile on POF in toronto a couple weeks ago. i stayed online for a total of 3 hours in the evening time.

these male model experiments have stated that they get immediately swamped with messages. on the contrary, i did not get any messages or any views. that means that either the results of these experiments are exaggerated, or they were true at the time but now girls don't even care to browse through male profiles.

at the same time i created a fake 8/10 female profile on OKCupid. i didn't stay online much at all for that, yet i'd still get about 5 new messages a day and 10-15 visitors/quickmatches for the first week.

so do girls flock to the male model type? not sure. but they have a ton of options and will ruthlessly pick the best that pursues them. it's hard to believe that online dating works in the slightest.

Post: #37

These girls do get tons of messgaes. But most guys have no game. That is the difference.

I'm sure these girls give out their numbers literally all the time. Yet you can bet most guys creep them out with weird text game or lose interest after girls are being flakes. Once you get the number, your game gives you the chance to actually bang these girls, who once on a date, are DTF. They're basically just looking for a guy with enough game to convinve them to come out for drinks, and that's it.

Post: #38

(09-02-2013 11:09 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  These girls do get tons of messgaes. But most guys have no game. That is the difference.

I'm sure these girls give out their numbers literally all the time. Yet you can bet most guys creep them out with weird text game or lose interest after girls are being flakes. Once you get the number, your game gives you the chance to actually bang these girls, who once on a date, are DTF. They're basically just looking for a guy with enough game to convinve them to come out for drinks, and that's it.

Yeah which is why I'm always puzzled by the debates about what opener to use online.

Your opener is your goddamn profile and pics.

You can say balderdash and she'll reply if the above are decent. But it's from there on that game matters. If you have zero game, you can hilariously fail to get a girl out who was otherwise instantaneously attracted to your photo. Meanwhile, a guy with game could take a girl who was only modestly interested and get her to come straight to his apartment, as long as she replied to begin with.

When it comes to online dating, game really begins with the second message.

Post: #39

(09-02-2013 10:09 PM)MrXY Wrote:  I've decided I'm going to make a fake profile

I'm going to find a pic of a model about 30 so he can go after the younger and the older chicks, give him a great job and high income, and see what happens

I'll use a guy who's somewhat jacked and has a six pack

I think i'll have him message the chicks that I've messaged with but they dropped off or I got their number and they won't meet me and the ones who won't reply to me at all

I really want to see how slutty I can get them to act hehe

I made one using pics of Dmitry Klokov (the Russian Olympic Powerlifter).

My inbox is not getting flooded, but I am getting unsolicited messages from top tier girls.

I can understand how this got Tuth in a rage.

Post: #40

(09-03-2013 01:57 PM)Gopher Wrote:  I made one using pics of Dmitry Klokov (the Russian Olympic Poe trwerlifter).

My inbox is not getting flooded, but I am getting unsolicited messages from top tier girls.

I didn't need to test this - I just observed a higher value mate doing it.

I've rarely bothered with online dating, as women were rarely what they said they were and their pictures were so deceptive I gave up.

My best mate has zero game, but is Dmitry-sized. Biggest motherfucker i've ever met. Astounding muscle definition. He started using my computer to do the online dating thing, and watching what happened was interesting.

Lower value girls were intimidated by his fitness. It didn't matter if he had opened them, it'd become All About Them, and their low self image. "Why?" was the main question. That'd then assume (correctly) that he was just wanting to 'use them for sex', and dismiss him. The ones who didn't, then seemed more focused upon getting Validation from him as to their attractiveness than showing any real interest in him. They'd ask questions like "Do you think I'm pretty?" or "What is it you find cute about me?"

Basically, attraction from a high value man makes low value women negatively suspicious, or think they're hotter than they thought, to the extent they'll actually start questioning and qualifying to see if they can actually do better than him.

High value women were interesting. Despite what game tells us, they went into instant 'girlfriend' mode: "i'm not easy", "you'll have to win me..." etc. They knew they had a catch, and they wanted him to think they were not that kind of girl who'd use a 'sleazy' dating site ie. marriage material. Treating him like Beta Bux, Not Alpha Fux.

It's the opposite of Real Life Game, which makes me assume this:

Despite his appearance, women will see any man who uses an online dating website as not able to compete in the real life sexual market place, and, therefore, write him off as Low Value.

This is why I don't bother with them. After 6 months, my mate gave up, saying it was "the dregs who can't pick up in a real bar".

I can see Facebook having value for the younger guys, but something like POF? Fuck it.

Post: #41

I'm conflicted about online dating...I tried it out earlier this year and got a few bangs out of it in a couple months, but not good quality. One was a butterface, another a 6, and the other one a female Army lieutenant who was on anti-depressants. Decent stories here of bizarre fucks.
I figured I'd use match.com rather than POF or OKCupid, since I thought that since it was a paying site then that might automatically weed out the deadbeat chicks, flatliners, and dorks. Sort of true.

One bang was the Army chick with 2 cats who was just getting ready to leave the service. She had some mood problems, but was a solid athletic 7. Banged her on second night out, after a couple margaritas in a local Mexican joint. Went back to her place and saw some stupid fucking videos that I had to pretend to like. It was some bullshit redneck comedy hour or something like that with the guy with the whiny voice and sleeveless plaid shirt. Anyway, went for the close and got it, but she was a bit of a dead fuck...

Another chick was a charity case whose husband had committed suicide the year previous. I am not kidding. Anyway, I took her out for pizza, escalated in the parking lot, and closed her later that night after pretending to listen to her sad sack stories. Yawn. She came over the house a few more times for a few more sessions until I got tired of it.

Bottom line: I don't know if online dating is worth it. I don't think I'm going to bother with it anymore. Too many delusional dipshits, freaks, and flatliners.

Haven't tried the free sites, but from reading this thread I'm thinking it might not be worth it either. On the other hand, maybe there's some value in just the perversity of doing it. There is something to be said for new experiences...
The biggest irritants to it is the absolute delusional nature of the girls. You've got these fat asses who think they're worth something, and they're getting bombarded by every swinging dick, ever simp, and every sad sack in a 100 mile radius.

I've never used a fake profile. I don't know if the results would be any better if I did, but my guess is that the chicks are going to bail on you when they figure out you're not who you said you were.

Post: #42

Awesome experiment

"Results:

There are many messages waiting. Messages from decent looking females were also received in abundance. These women were ready to meet up immediately regardless of time or schedule.

Even though to other men they say things like "I have a wedding/night out with the girls/dog got sick[enter excuse]", when it came time to interact with a male model they were ready to burn their friends, hang their dog or postpone any other activity they might have had. So basically, they are never actually busy"

Post: #43

I also ran an experiment with a fake OkC account with photos of a somewhat rather well-known pro athlete. Only one girl in several months said I "looked like" that athlete. No one else seemed to catch on.

What struck me as most amusing was not just the volume of messages but also how bad almost all of their opening notes were. Just completely uninspired and sometimes borderline pathetic. Interestingly no angry notes about my fake guy not writing them back though. The one girl I wrote back I told it was too bad that she lived 150 miles away and she immediately started to rationalize how it could still work. This should not surprise you.

Post: #44

(09-03-2013 08:54 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  I'm conflicted about online dating...I tried it out earlier this year and got a few bangs out of it in a couple months, but not good quality. One was a butterface, another a 6, and the other one a female Army lieutenant who was on anti-depressants. Decent stories here of bizarre fucks.
I figured I'd use match.com rather than POF or OKCupid, since I thought that since it was a paying site then that might automatically weed out the deadbeat chicks, flatliners, and dorks. Sort of true.

One bang was the Army chick with 2 cats who was just getting ready to leave the service. She had some mood problems, but was a solid athletic 7. Banged her on second night out, after a couple margaritas in a local Mexican joint. Went back to her place and saw some stupid fucking videos that I had to pretend to like. It was some bullshit redneck comedy hour or something like that with the guy with the whiny voice and sleeveless plaid shirt. Anyway, went for the close and got it, but she was a bit of a dead fuck...

Another chick was a charity case whose husband had committed suicide the year previous. I am not kidding. Anyway, I took her out for pizza, escalated in the parking lot, and closed her later that night after pretending to listen to her sad sack stories. Yawn. She came over the house a few more times for a few more sessions until I got tired of it.

Bottom line: I don't know if online dating is worth it. I don't think I'm going to bother with it anymore. Too many delusional dipshits, freaks, and flatliners.

Haven't tried the free sites, but from reading this thread I'm thinking it might not be worth it either. On the other hand, maybe there's some value in just the perversity of doing it. There is something to be said for new experiences...
The biggest irritants to it is the absolute delusional nature of the girls. You've got these fat asses who think they're worth something, and they're getting bombarded by every swinging dick, ever simp, and every sad sack in a 100 mile radius.

I've never used a fake profile. I don't know if the results would be any better if I did, but my guess is that the chicks are going to bail on you when they figure out you're not who you said you were.

SO MUCH THIS

It seems that there is always something wrong with chicks online. Besides the delusional high entitlement (which is mot women now a days) but these girls really think they are hot shit.

Anyway I use online dating if I'm in mega slumps or out of town, I mean why not? if you can find a chick whose DTF while your traveling it's a win/win

I don't try to sugarcoat it either some girls are actually open to this

Post: #45

I'm going to try this

Post: #46

The real lesson is not that there's always something wrong with chicks online, it's that there's always something wrong with chicks.

Post: #47

This is a dupe

Post: #48

The original link is dead. Here it is from archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/201609051239...experiment

I've ran a similar experiment. I found a male model on Instagram. Bar the above makeup, he wasn't as masculine looking, a bit like a guy you would find in a boy band. I made sure the images couldn't be dorked up from a Google Image search. I then wrote a killer profile that filled women with excitement but not over the top. Lots of popular cues: new in town, enjoy socialising, nights out, sports, music and so on.

He got about 50 profiles views and instantly the messages poured in; 14 messages in the first day. The average of the women messaging was about 6.2. In his whole haul of messages there were maybe 1 or 2 8s at a push.

The messages he got were quite gushing and women would often message twice in a short space of time, like:

"Hey there "

Then:

"I'm probably not you type?"

This from some low six. As with the above, there were compliments about his eyes.

I messaged every single woman back to say that this profile was a dummy to run a test. Multiple messaged back to say they didn't believe me, so strong was their desire to keep hold of a chance with their male model.

I put myself on at the same time with only one good photo and a different profile that wouldn't interest most women. Overall I got about the same level of profile views but much fewer messages. Most I was able to squeeze was 7 in a day with same fun profile and the messages were virtually all variants of "Hey" with no gushing double messages. The quality of women was exactly the same, about 6.2.

Conclusion is there is a horde of women on POF that don't take care of themselves and are living in a dream world not wanting to know the reality of their SMV.

Post: #49

I've definitely played around with accounts, but honestly, I'd much rather spend time getting the physique and making my own profile model status (unless you're an ogre face, it's not that hard to look decent in 1/100 photos if you're well groomed)

Post: #50

What's this? POF is still a thing?