Post: #1

Andreas posted this video over in the Funny/Cool Pics and Vids thread. I just took the time to watch it, and I think others should too. It is an 18 minute short movie from Denmark.





What makes the movie impressive to me is how clearly it outlines the factors behind beta creation, which I'll list here along with corresponding times to allow you to quickly locate them in the film.

0:30- Dennis is Danish and this movie takes place in Denmark. Roosh will tell you that that place is the land of the beta, and Dennis does nothing to disprove that. Here he takes out a girl's phone number and proceeds to call for a date. He had never spoken to her before, and got the number from a friend-he actually tells her this.
The interaction is textbook pathetic beta game. We'll soon see how this dude (who is huge and quite clearly a fully grown man) got into such a pathetic way.

3:08- Dennis' mother gets home, and we see here the real engine of this guy's beta machine. She expects him to cook dinner that night and keep her company, but he tells her he has to go out to a movie. She gets angry, and starts shaming him for daring to have a life. He relents, unwilling to challenge her.

We'll find out later in the movie that Dennis' father was an alcoholic. He's out of the picture, and she has never let Dennis forget about it, consistently telling him in a shaming tone how much he reminds her of his father.

It is almost certain that this dynamic has been constant since childhood. Dennis' mother resent all men because of his father. She coddles Dennis and refuses to let him be a real independent man in any way shape or form, shooting down any masculine independent streak he shows. At the same time, she consistently shames him because he is his father's son, and she cannot stand that man (or any men).

This combination is perfect for building a beta, and has likely repeated itself tens of millions of times throughout the western world. His mother's refusal to let him grow up and concurrent subtle shaming/distrust of him has left him weak. He can't speak up, he rarely looks up when talking to people (poor body language all around) and, as we've seen and will continue to see, he knows jack shit about how to interact with women.

5:30- This is a quick dinner scene, and it gives us some insight into why things are the way they are in this household. Dennis tells his mother about his training (read: insinuates that he has a life outside the home), and she immediately quips back with how necessary it is for him to be at home.
Dennis shows a little backbone here (I'm shocked he has any left), clearly frustrated with his mother's consistent coddling and unwillingness to support anything he does outside the home. He finally asks her when she is going to get a man.
Her response?

"Men can't be trusted. You remind me so much of your father."

Dennis leaves.

Did you ever wonder why so many uber-betas have such a hard time being forward and taking what they want? Bitter, anti-male single moms beat them down from a young age, that's why. His mother has been shaming him since childhood, insisting on how horrible his father was while also consistently implying that he is his father.

Again, this is the perfect beta recipe. His mother dominates his life completely (she allows no life for him away from her) and allows her own insecurities to tear her son down piece by piece.
Men like this rarely ever grow up with a backbone-they never had time to form one, and they can never build any real self-esteem.

7:30- Date with the cute girl he called at the beginning of the movie. Despite his betatude (the dinner date itself is a big mistake), the guy still has a shot with this girl, who is drinking a little and seems intrigued by his physique. As he walks away at the end (not even an attempt to touch her, he just turns), she invites him to hang out.

9:45-Dennis meets her friends. One thing leads to another, and soon they are asking him to take his shirt off so they can see his muscles. He does, and they start hooting and hollering. Two guys enter to hang out, and Dennis grabs his shirt and leaves quickly, embarassed. The dudes are dumbfounded as to what he was doing there.

Despite having such an amazing physique and likely incredible strength (he could easily have crushed the two men who arrived), Dennis has no confidence in himself whatsoever. He was too shy to take advantage of the decent vibe he was inadvertently generating in the room with the girls as the center of attention, and the mere sight of a couple of new male faces is enough to scare him off. Any one of us here on this forum can understand that he wasn't in a bad place when it came to getting at that girl he took on the date, and we all know what could (and maybe should) have been done.

Dennis can't even think to go that far, though. He's been beat down for far too long.

14:15- Dennis gets home. He sits in front of his mother who is playing cards by herself and insisting she had a good time. He sits in front of her with his head down, looking absolutely defeated. What she does next will ensure he never completely leaves this state.

She lays the final psychological beat down of the movie. She lets him know subtlely that she knows what he was up to, asking if he was drinking and noting that his shirt was on inside out. Finally, she says in a cold tone with a hint of anger: "You remind me so much of your father". She leaves, ignoring him after that.

The movie ends with him in his boxers ready to go to bed. He gets up and crawls into his mother's bed, saying good night before turning the lights off, ending the film.

With this last scene, her domination is complete. This was his most ambitious attempt at having a life yet-he tried to find another woman, and have a normal social life complete with dinner dates, hang-out sessions and even some alcohol. Unable to sustain this given his upbringing and general inexperience, he was forced to return to her and accept her harsh judgement once again, and essentially accept "his place". You can bet that there won't be any more cute girls in his near future.

Such is the life of the Lower Beta/Omega Male. You can rest assured that there are many tens of millions of Dennis' in the western world whose behavior would make us all cringe. Yet, they can do nothing else, regardless of how smart or physically impressive they are. Their mothers, often angry, bitter feminists of the kind you saw in this film, will not let them.

The boys grow up either watching the men in the house getting destroyed by their mothers (in cases where the father/stepfather is a mangina foolish enough to subject himself to marriage with such a woman) or hearing their father get insulted constantly and suffering comparison to him, while also being coddled.

This movie helped me further appreciate the way my mother raised me on her own. My father, who I have never seen, was not kind to her and she could easily have done things the way this woman did, talking him down repeatedly and insisting I was him. She did not, and I'm a better man for it. I could have grown into this guy, without the confidence to even think of building a decent interaction with a woman, much less developing any game.

There is little hope for men unfortunate enough to be born into such a poor scenario to such hateful women. One's upbringing can ruin the future-such is the sad reality of our world.

Post: #2

Thanks for posting. This was the best short I've seen this year. The acting is great all around.

Mothers can be just as selfish as nature/evolution. Women are out of control.

Post: #3

Great analysis. There are a lot of ways to get to beta I can see this being one of the main ones.

If you stay in Denmark you'll find a lot of guys who have a bit of Dennis in them. This is why the "nod strategy" of going silent there works so well, because the women expect to control the encounter anyway. A lot of Danish girls really like the silent, brooding type.

Post: #4

I saw the movie and felt pretty bad for the guy.

This is a classic codependent mother/son relationship, and it's made much worse because the guy is very introverted. The world deserves his unyielding rage but he's beaten down so hard by her nagging and emotional abuse (and his neediness for her human companionship) that he can't even imagine to struggle against it. It's good he's trying to date but he's so damned apologetic for existing.

Post: #5

(05-17-2012 04:15 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  Andreas posted this video over in the Funny/Cool Pics and Vids thread. I just took the time to watch it, and I think others should too. It is an 18 minute short movie from Denmark.





What makes the movie impressive to me is how clearly it outlines the factors behind beta creation, which I'll list here along with corresponding times to allow you to quickly locate them in the film.

0:30- Dennis is Danish and this movie takes place in Denmark. Roosh will tell you that that place is the land of the beta, and Dennis does nothing to disprove that. Here he takes out a girl's phone number and proceeds to call for a date. He had never spoken to her before, and got the number from a friend-he actually tells her this.
The interaction is textbook pathetic beta game. We'll soon see how this dude (who is huge and quite clearly a fully grown man) got into such a pathetic way.

3:08- Dennis' mother gets home, and we see here the real engine of this guy's beta machine. She expects him to cook dinner that night and keep her company, but he tells her he has to go out to a movie. She gets angry, and starts shaming him for daring to have a life. He relents, unwilling to challenge her.

We'll find out later in the movie that Dennis' father was an alcoholic. He's out of the picture, and she has never let Dennis forget about it, consistently telling him in a shaming tone how much he reminds her of his father.

It is almost certain that this dynamic has been constant since childhood. Dennis' mother resent all men because of his father. She coddles Dennis and refuses to let him be a real independent man in any way shape or form, shooting down any masculine independent streak he shows. At the same time, she consistently shames him because he is his father's son, and she cannot stand that man (or any men).

This combination is perfect for building a beta, and has likely repeated itself tens of millions of times throughout the western world. His mother's refusal to let him grow up and concurrent subtle shaming/distrust of him has left him weak. He can't speak up, he rarely looks up when talking to people (poor body language all around) and, as we've seen and will continue to see, he knows jack shit about how to interact with women.

5:30- This is a quick dinner scene, and it gives us some insight into why things are the way they are in this household. Dennis tells his mother about his training (read: insinuates that he has a life outside the home), and she immediately quips back with how necessary it is for him to be at home.
Dennis shows a little backbone here (I'm shocked he has any left), clearly frustrated with his mother's consistent coddling and unwillingness to support anything he does outside the home. He finally asks her when she is going to get a man.
Her response?

"Men can't be trusted. You remind me so much of your father."

Dennis leaves.

Did you ever wonder why so many uber-betas have such a hard time being forward and taking what they want? Bitter, anti-male single moms beat them down from a young age, that's why. His mother has been shaming him since childhood, insisting on how horrible his father was while also consistently implying that he is his father.

Again, this is the perfect beta recipe. His mother dominates his life completely (she allows no life for him away from her) and allows her own insecurities to tear her son down piece by piece.
Men like this rarely ever grow up with a backbone-they never had time to form one, and they can never build any real self-esteem.

7:30- Date with the cute girl he called at the beginning of the movie. Despite his betatude (the dinner date itself is a big mistake), the guy still has a shot with this girl, who is drinking a little and seems intrigued by his physique. As he walks away at the end (not even an attempt to touch her, he just turns), she invites him to hang out.

9:45-Dennis meets her friends. One thing leads to another, and soon they are asking him to take his shirt off so they can see his muscles. He does, and they start hooting and hollering. Two guys enter to hang out, and Dennis grabs his shirt and leaves quickly, embarassed. The dudes are dumbfounded as to what he was doing there.

Despite having such an amazing physique and likely incredible strength (he could easily have crushed the two men who arrived), Dennis has no confidence in himself whatsoever. He was too shy to take advantage of the decent vibe he was inadvertently generating in the room with the girls as the center of attention, and the mere sight of a couple of new male faces is enough to scare him off. Any one of us here on this forum can understand that he wasn't in a bad place when it came to getting at that girl he took on the date, and we all know what could (and maybe should) have been done.

Dennis can't even think to go that far, though. He's been beat down for far too long.

14:15- Dennis gets home. He sits in front of his mother who is playing cards by herself and insisting she had a good time. He sits in front of her with his head down, looking absolutely defeated. What she does next will ensure he never completely leaves this state.

She lays the final psychological beat down of the movie. She lets him know subtlely that she knows what he was up to, asking if he was drinking and noting that his shirt was on inside out. Finally, she says in a cold tone with a hint of anger: "You remind me so much of your father". She leaves, ignoring him after that.

The movie ends with him in his boxers ready to go to bed. He gets up and crawls into his mother's bed, saying good night before turning the lights off, ending the film.

With this last scene, her domination is complete. This was his most ambitious attempt at having a life yet-he tried to find another woman, and have a normal social life complete with dinner dates, hang-out sessions and even some alcohol. Unable to sustain this given his upbringing and general inexperience, he was forced to return to her and accept her harsh judgement once again, and essentially accept "his place". You can bet that there won't be any more cute girls in his near future.

Such is the life of the Lower Beta/Omega Male. You can rest assured that there are many tens of millions of Dennis' in the western world whose behavior would make us all cringe. Yet, they can do nothing else, regardless of how smart or physically impressive they are. Their mothers, often angry, bitter feminists of the kind you saw in this film, will not let them.

The boys grow up either watching the men in the house getting destroyed by their mothers (in cases where the father/stepfather is a mangina foolish enough to subject himself to marriage with such a woman) or hearing their father get insulted constantly and suffering comparison to him, while also being coddled.

This movie helped me further appreciate the way my mother raised me on her own. My father, who I have never seen, was not kind to her and she could easily have done things the way this woman did, talking him down repeatedly and insisting I was him. She did not, and I'm a better man for it. I could have grown into this guy, without the confidence to even think of building a decent interaction with a woman, much less developing any game.

There is little hope for men unfortunate enough to be born into such a poor scenario to such hateful women. One's upbringing can ruin the future-such is the sad reality of our world.

look in the mirror im more alpha than you ever will be.

Post: #6

The guy who plays Denis is super alpha. Not only is he built like a machine, the whole movie uses the "omg, is he going to freak out and smash everyone?" thing as the main gimmick. I'd bet this guy gets more, and the best, pussy denmark has to offer.

Post: #7

(05-17-2012 06:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Great analysis. There are a lot of ways to get to beta I can see this being one of the main ones.

If you stay in Denmark you'll find a lot of guys who have a bit of Dennis in them. This is why the "nod strategy" of going silent there works so well, because the women expect to control the encounter anyway. A lot of Danish girls really like the silent, brooding type.

Yeah, but doesn't the silent brooding type then become a game strategy?

BTW a Bull shark has 900 testosterone level compared to an adult man who has 40. This guy looks like he has about 100-160.

Post: #8

I've heard it said before that many of these super betas strike out because they're in committed, monogamous relationships with their mothers. The final scene verifies that beyond any doubt.

I felt awkward watching it.

What's really fucked up, is that guys like him secretly wish their mothers would die, but at the same time, they know they wouldn't be able to function without them. Of course that makes them sink lower.

Post: #9

Quote:Yeah, but doesn't the silent brooding type then become a game strategy?

Yes but you won't have high numbers since you're restrained from approaching. Most Danish guys don't sleep with more than two girls a year.

Post: #10

Other than talking bad about my father, this is how my mom is. It's why I disappear for days at a time and keep her in the dark about everything. Anytime I have ever told her about going on a date or going out with friends she tries to tell me what I should be doing. It's probably the reason why I never tried to talk to girls or hangout with people on a consistent basis while I lived with her and the reason I moved out as soon as I could.