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(05-03-2017 01:37 PM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Merc, you are doing God's work, like, literally.

Yep, I second this. Good for you Merc for posting in this thread constant encouragement. I know a lot of people appreciate the support (I do).

As for myself, I cracked last week after about...2 weeks or so. I stopped counting the days after the first week honestly. When I finally added up the days it was right around 14 days. Then of course the thought of "Wow, you made it two weeks! Let's celebrate by jacking off!!" crept into my brain and it festered until I made it reality.

My new streak started on Monday, so...on Day 3. Going to try for 21 days and beyond.

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(05-03-2017 01:37 PM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Merc, you are doing God's work, like, literally. I'm doing my part too, just sharing the good news with friends, they think I'm crazy "what do you mean you don't fap lol", but one tried for some days and was happy with it.

(05-03-2017 03:18 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  Yep, I second this. Good for you Merc for posting in this thread constant encouragement. I know a lot of people appreciate the support (I do).

Thank you both for your words of appreciation.

The 2nd most important thing you can do (after doing all you can to break this addiction) is telling others how you did it, and the endless amazing benefits you gained. Remember, not only do we have many forum members who come here and are helped by this thread, but there are many lurkers too who either never post or don't have an RVF account....yet they too read this and will be strongly motivated to keep trying.

There are a lot of dudes who either don't (or can't) see the utter destruction this mental and physical addiction is causing to them, or think that we are lying or exaggerating when we talk about things like "NoFap superpowers". How do I know this ? Cause I myself was one of those guys who did not believe it, until I experienced it myself. It was a life changing moment when that started happening to me.

Porn and masturbaton is literally destroying both your inner testosterone (by constantly throwing it away through ejaculation to fake stimuli) and neuters your essence as powerful man. It is a central part of the ruling elites war on men & masculinity. You are honestly fighting for your survival as a strong, healthy, virile and fertile man....and we are all fighting for survival as true men.
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(05-03-2017 02:18 AM)eddie_7 Wrote:  Managed to abstain for 3-4 days but I relented today. What I found out was that before the urge to fap, for me at least, there is a subtle background thought/desire that lurks and grows stronger until it breaks my will.

In the olden days people used to call that inner nagging voice trying to break your will a demon or female succubus.
See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus

(05-03-2017 03:18 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  As for myself, I cracked last week after about...2 weeks or so. I stopped counting the days after the first week honestly. When I finally added up the days it was right around 14 days. Then of course the thought of "Wow, you made it two weeks! Let's celebrate by jacking off!!" crept into my brain and it festered until I made it reality.

This is a common way guys relapse...by rewarding themselves with more of the addiction they worked so hard to break. Kind of like binge eating crap food after losing lots of weight on a diet. You need to stop using any fapping as a reward or sedative for anything in life.

(05-03-2017 12:32 PM)sonoran_ Wrote:  Basically reached day 90 and during a semi conscious state during sleep my mind decided to relapse. The shitty thing about relapse is that you dont just do it once, you do it multiple times thinking might as well since I already relapsed.

So in the past 8 hours ( mostly sleeping) I fapped 3 times already.

This is the chaser effect. Sorry to hear this.
I think this shows the importance of at least trying to do approaches and get a girlfriend (or any real girl) when the powers are high inside you. The guys here who have regular girls seem to have it a bit easier. That's why doing NoFap without any sex at all is called "hard mode".

(05-03-2017 02:04 AM)Mrredsquare Wrote:  I'm still busting way early it's never happened before i started this lol. Any other tips to desensitize and last longer I'm literally lost for ideas ?

Have more natural sex and the self control will eventually come by itself.
Kind of like exercise or lifting weights.
Honestly, that it.

(05-03-2017 01:37 PM)ExploringReality Wrote:  I think I-m coming back. I was with one of the girls, just lying on the grass, nothing sexual, and I was completely hard.

Another sign of healing - this is the way it should be....you get hard by the mere presence of pleasant female company.

(05-03-2017 01:19 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  If you haven't had quality female company for a while please please please listen to us that tell you the testosterone high that you get without fapping after months is a strong, strong force.

Yup, it one of the most powerful forces of the universe. Always remember, that your sperm is strong enough to swim on its own upwards (against gravity itself) inside a girl's body, in a totally foreign (and hostile) environment, and be able to find its direction all the way to her eggs which are further up and hidden away and protected, and finally fertilise them with an actual living human being that starts growing immediately.

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If it can do all that amazing powerful stuff inside a female's body, imagine what it does TO YOU just by keeping it ready inside yourself.
We are talking about the incredible power of life itself.
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Been going for 18 days now, 23 years old. This is the longest I've gone in many years, feeling better already and the urges are dying off.
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Yesterday I got a strong urge to watch porn and had it throughout the whole day. I tried going out for a run and take a cold shower, that only helped temporarily. The urge only got stronger and at the end of the day I caved in and watch porn for an hour.

Now I am not sure if I should restart the count or not for "only" watching porn, but hell that urge was strong. It was all I could think of most of the day (witch might have been the problem. I might should learn to control my thoughts better. Do you fellow fighters think that meditation would help?)

The hour of porn was not as fulfilling as I thought it would be, it sort of bored me a bit actually. I would think i would be the opposite. Has anyone else noticed that?

But to the positive: I think NoPorn/NoFap over all has given me more energy and motivation to do things. I have been slightly more productive than before. I also think it has given me a faster recovery time after hard physical training.

I also get a big kick of knowing I am doing something very few men are doing or are even capable of.

Even if one doesn't notices any benefits of doing this it's still a wonderful training in discipline.

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Keep going, and come back and read these posts if you get the urge ... another thing I've found is that if you listen to beautiful music, you'll notice that the virtue within the music, for example, will dispel the falsehood of what you have an urge (negative) to do ...
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You gotta block porn on all your electronic devices to succeed.
I can't emphasize this enough.
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If you do break it once, keep going. You still have the vitality that you can use to carry you through the rest of the week. Otherwise if you fall of the wagon completely, then you will have a harder time getting back on track. The insomnia can be cured by simply going to the gym, or pushing through the tiredness next day. Eventually the extra energy will be transmuted in a healthy way, that powers you through the day.
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I'll chime in as well since I find Mercs words truthful regarding helping other guys with my experiences.

Would consider myself quite a hardcase, been addicted to this stuff for most of my youth, counting up to multiple times a day. My libido is off the charts, even during my relationships multiple bangs a day were quite regular, even though I'm on the introverted side of the spectrum, I LOVE communicating physically with women.

Even though my 7+ days streaks are rare (been getting better lately), the changes are extremely apparent. The energy you will have for expenditures such as gym, work, passion, game or simply going out of your mancave are astounding, with a degree on how big your libido and how much down the rabbit hole you have been in your life. Another big thing is your presence, sometimes seems like the air around me makes room for my being. Weird to explain without getting woobly, but others might think of better explanations of this.

As a personal tip, most of my cave-ins happened when I was home alone sitting bored, especially hungover. Try to engineer your life to avoid these moments, I started playing squash with a friend and most of those sessions are planned after a night out. I also take an extreme amount of walks nowadays, either listening to a podcast, music, meditate a bit or spit some game.

Currently on day 10, the first Swedish 9 I banged last week is making it hard for me, those eyes still haunt my fucking soul...
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Made it to 6 days. Doing push ups / pull ups when feeling those all too common urges helps, as someone else mentioned here. Think of it as converting that sexual energy into a muscle building process.
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Everyone should check out this 3 part video.




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DAMN IT. Best streak yet ruined by chaser effect. Phone sex. Fucking... At least I didn't use porn. So that's nice. I guess.

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Huge truths being spoken here. Keep up the good work guys. I've been no fap for over a year (like someone said, it's easier with regular girls) until a couple of months ago when I broke up with a girl who refused me sex. So frustrated I cracked. Since then I've been seeing a FB so it's been sometimes difficult, but doable.

The flatline is a bitch, although conversely makes it easier to abstain so long as you don't get hooked into the chaser effect. I must be about day 30 now. I'm only just starting to keep hard and fuck my FB properly without getting too tired. And I'm fit and in shape so it's not that. Porn really is like an exceptionally damaging drug.

Merc is right about a strong belief, or maybe a bible verse. Does anyone have one that pertains particularly to our collective situation?


(05-03-2017 01:19 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  When you're around a nice, feminine woman you easily cease to contemplate digital anything. Make that your goal. Find out just how repulsive the substitute for the real thing. What's nice is that you'll not have any inkling towards it, it'll just not occur to you to bother with it.

Amen brother. Fuck social media too.

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(05-08-2017 03:31 AM)roberto Wrote:  Merc is right about a strong belief, or maybe a bible verse. Does anyone have one that pertains particularly to our collective situation?


Leviticus 15:2-4
Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When any man has an unusual bodily discharge, such a discharge is unclean. Whether it continues flowing from his body or is blocked, it will make him unclean. This is how his discharge will bring about uncleanness. Any bed the man with a discharge lies on will be unclean, and anything he sits on will be unclean.

Leviticus 22:4
‘If a descendant of Aaron has a defiling skin disease or a bodily discharge, he may not eat the sacred offerings until he is cleansed. He will also be unclean if he touches something defiled by a corpse or by anyone who has an emission of semen

Deuteronomy 23:10
If there is a man among you who is unclean because of a bodily emission during the night, he must go outside the camp; he may not come anywhere inside the camp.

Genesis 38:9-10
But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.




2 Timothy 1:14
Guard the good deposit that was entrusted to you—guard it with the help of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.

Ezekiel 36:27
And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

1 Corinthians 6:18-20
Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
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It seems a lot of if not most of the benefits of this are from quitting porn, since it's what damages your brain the most (neurotransmitters and etc).

My first step was to cut that first. Did it. Being able to use the mind for arousal instead is a wonderful thing, not to mention that's how nature intended.

Next step is the actual nofap. I feel like this part of the process isn't as necessary, but it's where the "superpowers" are gained.
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@mercenary

Dont want to get into a debate but a few of those verses seem out of context / have different meaning in the original language.

Now on a different note, I assume you are Christian?

How do you deal with being a Christian and fornicating (if you even are, I dont know your full story)?

Inside is a massive battle raging where I have to deal with either being a virgin till I get married or allow my flesh to win and start fornicating. It's a tough struggle being 23 years old.
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(05-08-2017 06:29 PM)sonoran_ Wrote:  @mercenary

Dont want to get into a debate but a few of those verses seem out of context / have different meaning in the original language.

Now on a different note, I assume you are Christian?

How do you deal with being a Christian and fornicating (if you even are, I dont know your full story)?

Inside is a massive battle raging where I have to deal with either being a virgin till I get married or allow my flesh to win and start fornicating. It's a tough struggle being 23 years old.

A lot of the bible is interpretation...scholars will debate endlessly what the original Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic (or whatever other language) exactly meant. It's an argument for another thread. I picked those so guys here have got something to ponder and start with. You don't need to use those exact passages or even the bible...all old established religions have value in man's fight against breaking addictions. The important part is faith and the idea that you are accountable to a being who watches over you, helps you, but also judges you if you break your promises too easily.

You seem to be saying that fornication is bad....but masturbating is ok ?
I would argue that self abuse (self rape) is far, far worse than sex outside marriage.

As a man, you NEED to have some knowledge of the dangers and methods of the addiction demons you are fighting. Living in innocence makes you ill prepared for the future and can be far more dangerous in your marriage one day. Kind of like a person who never drinks giving advice to alcoholics on how to stop drinking, or a celibate priest giving advice to a man on how to satisfy his wife in bed.

In my opinion, no matter what faith you are, as a man you need carnal knowledge of more than 1 woman to be able to one day spot good wife material and have a sucessful marriage. Even virgin girls can make bad wives if you don't know how to spot red flags, handle her female desires, know her ovulations & menstruation cues, and deal with other unpredictable impulsive female behaviour. You can only get that through your own 1st hand experience with girls. Game doesn't stop when you get married...in fact, it can even get more difficult.

To balance your faith with the reality of being a man with strong desires and the world we live in, my best advice to you in your sexual interactions with girls, is not to "ruin" them...meaning do your best so that your time spent with them will actually make them a better person than when you first found them. Help these girls know the value of being a feminine woman who respects her man, and show the virtues of having a family and becoming a mother, even if you don't marry her. Sounds contradictory, but it isn't. If you don't do this and go full virgin MGTOW, she will just wind up dating guys that will pump and dump her and make her more bitter and jaded and cunt like. and she will eventually have zero children cause of that.

Religion has value, but we must also be realistic...control and mastery over your desires is more important than years of total denial. If you want more details, you can send me a private message, otherwise we will get too off topic here.
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(05-08-2017 05:11 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  It seems a lot of if not most of the benefits of this are from quitting porn, since it's what damages your brain the most (neurotransmitters and etc).

My first step was to cut that first. Did it. Being able to use the mind for arousal instead is a wonderful thing, not to mention that's how nature intended.

Next step is the actual nofap. I feel like this part of the process isn't as necessary, but it's where the "superpowers" are gained.

Glad to hear you blocked out porn.
Nofap is just as important.
It is extremely necessary to staying strong and healthy....and yes, getting superpowers.
The 2 things are not mutually exclusive
Porn and masurbation are both equally as harmful to your brain over the long term.

Hundreds of years ago (when porn was almost non existent and totally illegal) men were still writing books about NoFap and talking about how much better their physical and mental health was when they did not masturbate.

Here's an example of a book written in the year 1760 by the Swiss physician Samuel-Auguste Tissot.


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You can buy it in english on amazon.com:

https://www.amazon.com/Diseases-Caused-M...0986177210


Or find it on other websites with the following details:

ISBN 10: 0986177210
ISBN 13: 9780986177217
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Two months done. My libido isn't the best maybe hitting the flat line period ?.

Don't even think about porn anymore which is great and quite surprising after years of watching it daily.

Got a blow job last night, lasted a good 15 minutes so hopefully the sensitivity is decreasing.
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I'm back, and with a vengeance. Still some days until the 90 day mark, but I can confidently say that I'm back! Already planned a weekend sex marathon with the younger girl, it's going to be fun. Approached a girl just coming home from college, after having sex this morning. Also, I got madly angry at a stupid guy spouting non-sense. So...yes, I would say the flatline is over.
Looking to meet the 90 day mark and then going for the 1 year one!
Oh, Merc, you surely do something similar, but I plan on fighting another traditional vice for 90 days after I finish this first period of NoFap. I plan on waking up at 7am (1 hour sooner than I use to) for 90 days, as I have problems with oversleeping and being a sloth motherfucker in general when in bed. It will be interesting.
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Damed.
I caved in the last two days.

Thank you all for the support. This forum helped me beat my personal best of 10 days, and more than double it.

But I said I will make it a whole month, so that is what I will do.

Things I will implement for better success:
-Block porn on all devices. (anyone got good suggestions for both Ubuntu and android?)
-Try getting of Hard Mode and get me a FB or girlfriend.

Day one.
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I recently got past the 30 day hurdle for the first time ever. Tomorrow will make day 35 for me. Getting laid recently definitely helped, and girls' attraction to me keeps noticeably increasing too. If things go according to planned I may get laid tomorrow.

When I first started I just wanted to see how long I could go, but now I'm in it for the long haul and headed for 90 days.
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I want to mention some of the great effects I've been seeing too, especially after day 27-28 or so. Also a huge shout out to Mercenary for all of the encouragement.

Game
My game is better than it's ever been before. When I got laid the other day I had to game hard all night and overcome so much bullshit that I don't think I could have done without being on Nofap. In addition to that I've been hitting on girls with much more ease. I finally got the motivation to get on tinder and the flirting and teasing with girls come so much more naturally now, like I don't have to really think about it anymore. Constantly getting eyeballed by girls on the street.

Sex
The first time I got laid on nofap it felt incredible. Brief, but way more powerful than I'm used to. Shot a huge load too and she loved it. I'm having stronger and bigger erections and I'm way more dominant. I'm constantly horny, but not in a frustrating type of way like before.

Physical
I've been having some of the best workouts of my life. I've been doing shitloads of reps with heavier weights than before, and I've been finding it easier to increase the weight than before. I really started noticing this about a week ago. At the same time I'm bulking up I feel more lean and athletic as well. I always have the energy to lift weights or shoot basketball now. I feel like my posture has improved too.

Mental
My confidence has increased tremendously, as well as my overall mood. I had some pretty bad mood swings in the first couple weeks of nofap, but they seem to have stabilized a bit. Now, I'm generally at a higher baseline happiness than I've been at in years. I have all kinds of stressors in my life that are still there but I've been looking at things with a more positive attitude. I have an underlying confidence that everything is gonna work out alright. I also feel more focused and had no problem studying for finals this week.

If anyone is a few weeks in and feels like they can't go on, and they start to rationalize why they should give in, one piece of advice I can give that helps me is to sit down and list the ways you've changed since you started, like I did above. Or the effects you want to see if you haven't noticed any yet. Because I can promise you they'll come. You'll realize you enjoy the struggle and really don't even want to fap. A few minutes of pleasure isn't worth sitting there sticky and depressed and having to start all over again.
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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
Interesting to read all these positive effects Mark.

Gonna give this a try, day 5 for the record.
Just wanted to make a post for something to look back on.
05-10-2017 04:46 PM
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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
Stay strong fellas. I'm on day 8, aiming for forever!
05-10-2017 04:59 PM
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