Post: #1

I'm sick of mamba...lots of wasted time and low quality girls.

Any tips on day game in the FSU? (BY and RU specifically, I imagine E. Ukr is the same)

Locations- I'm thinking the university and stores. Girls on the street don't like being talked to here, already tried.

Topics- asking directions(where the English dept. is, where items in the store are, etc.) as an opener seems good. my Russian is OK, but I still need to keep to simpler topics.



PS the electricity here just went out...and there is no storm outside..wow, FSU is awesome!

Post: #2

Where you are located day game does not get results.I have already explained the situation in the regarding thread.Day game is different in western Ukraine eastern Ukraine eastern Belarus and western Belarus.It brings different results according to each area.

Post: #3

(04-15-2012 11:30 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Where you are located day game does not get results.I have already explained the situation in the regarding thread.Day game is different in western Ukraine eastern Ukraine eastern Belarus and western Belarus.It brings different results according to each area.

Ok for Eastern Belarus and Western Russia (smolensk area)....

What is the best approach? Night clubs? Social circle?

I think you may be right day game with random strangers will not work. There has to be a very good reason for you to be talking to people...such as teaching English- already working on this approach and found a job.

Post: #4

I love day game in Ukraine, I can't speak for the whole country, but it makes me feel joyous in Lvov and Kyiv.

I am home know after some time socialising with friends, and I am 3 numbers better off. I didn't have to try, the coffee shop waitress was nice, what's your name?, are you new here?, let me take your number and let's meet for coffee(at this point I put the phone in her hand, v important)
She was bout 19, quite short but beautiful eyes, soft skin, a very sexy husky voice(unusual for Lviv)

She was actually taken aback that I wanted her number, she blushed and smiled cutely. Afterwards she was eyefucking me constantly as she walked around the cafe.

I then went for another Espresso and met a pair of older girls who were giggling between themselves because they heard we are foreigners. Chit chat, followed by taking both of their numbers.

I have approximately 8 women that I said I will meet next week, unfortunately I have a lot of work to do so, so I maybe only meet 1 or 2.

I don't visit clubs as much as I used to here, the whole of this city is a nightclub to me without the entrance fees and bitch shields

I had very good results in Kiev with day game, in fact I was pleasantly surprised when I was approached and hit on by a 17yr old promotions girl she asked me a lot of questions etc. Unfortunately I was heading to the train station to go back to Lemberg but the next time I came I banged her till I was blue in the face

These are of course subjective experiences

Post: #5

(04-15-2012 12:06 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  I love day game in Ukraine, I can't speak for the whole country, but it makes me feel joyous in Lvov and Kyiv.

I am home know after some time socialising with friends, and I am 3 numbers better off. I didn't have to try, the coffee shop waitress was nice, what's your name?, are you new here?, let me take your number and let's meet for coffee(at this point I put the phone in her hand, v important)
She was bout 19, quite short but beautiful eyes, soft skin, a very sexy husky voice(unusual for Lviv)

She was actually taken aback that I wanted her number, she blushed and smiled cutely. Afterwards she was eyefucking me constantly as she walked around the cafe.

I then went for another Espresso and met a pair of older girls who were giggling between themselves because they heard we are foreigners. Chit chat, followed by taking both of their numbers.

I have ten approximately 8 women that I said I will meet next week, unfortunately I have a lot of work to do so, so I maybe only meet 1 or 2.

I don't visit clubs as much as I used to here, the whole of this city is a nightclub to me without the entrance fees and bitch shields

I had very good results in Kiev with day game, in fact I was pleasantly surprised when I was approached and hit on by a 17yr old promotions girl she asked me a lot of questions etc. Unfortunately I was heading to the train station to go back to Lemberg but the next time I came I banged her till I was blue in the face

These are of course subjective experiences

Makes me wish I had stayed in Ukraine...maybe I strayed too far east now.
well, I guess I'll give day game a try over here as well.

Post: #6

Western Ukraine,western Belarus:Day game works.
Eastern Ukraine:Day game is less fruitful.
Eastern Belarus:Day game is almost impossible.
Kiev:Day game is highly possible(especially in Kreshatik where most girls gather for strolling shopping)
Minsk:Day game is much more difficult(girls very shy and afraid of foreigners some chances exist in central avenue Prospekt Nezavisimosti).

http://www.minsktravelguide.com/belarus/...insk.shtml

Post: #7

(04-15-2012 12:29 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Eastern Belarus:Day game is almost impossible.

Fuck.



What do I do instead?

Post: #8

I have found that daygame with Eastern Ukrainians has worked well here in the west, perhaps because they are more relaxed due to being on vacation.

Post: #9

(04-15-2012 12:34 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 12:29 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Eastern Belarus:Day game is almost impossible.

Fuck.



What do I do instead?

Nightgame.I have already written about that.

/thread-10641.html

Post: #10

(04-15-2012 12:49 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 12:34 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 12:29 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Eastern Belarus:Day game is almost impossible.

Fuck.



What do I do instead?

Nightgame.I have already written about that.

/thread-10641.html

Post: #11

(04-15-2012 11:25 AM)Spartan Wrote:  I'm sick of mamba...lots of wasted time and low quality girls.

Any tips on day game in the FSU? (BY and RU specifically, I imagine E. Ukr is the same)

Locations- I'm thinking the university and stores. Girls on the street don't like being talked to here, already tried.

Topics- asking directions(where the English dept. is, where items in the store are, etc.) as an opener seems good. my Russian is OK, but I still need to keep to simpler topics.



PS the electricity here just went out...and there is no storm outside..wow, FSU is awesome!

I agree the quality is not so high on Mamba, but I am very busy on there at the moment with 7's and the occasional 8.

It seems now that Easter is coming to an end girls are making up for what they gave up for lent; nightclubs, bars, and cock.

Also had good success with VK, I have a date with a busty young teen tomorrow, who was seemed very excited talking to me. She also had some revealing photos which suggested she might be a "goer"

Post: #12

(04-15-2012 01:10 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 11:25 AM)Spartan Wrote:  I'm sick of mamba...lots of wasted time and low quality girls.

Any tips on day game in the FSU? (BY and RU specifically, I imagine E. Ukr is the same)

Locations- I'm thinking the university and stores. Girls on the street don't like being talked to here, already tried.

Topics- asking directions(where the English dept. is, where items in the store are, etc.) as an opener seems good. my Russian is OK, but I still need to keep to simpler topics.



PS the electricity here just went out...and there is no storm outside..wow, FSU is awesome!

I agree the quality is not so high on Mamba, but I am very busy on there at the moment with 7's and the occasional 8.

It seems now that Easter is coming to an end girls are making up for what they gave up for lent; nightclubs, bars, and cock.

Also had good success with VK, I have a date with a busty young teen tomorrow, who was seemed very excited talking to me. She also had some revealing photos which suggested she might be a "goer"

Yeah, better quality on VK for sure, but very low success rate for me where I'm at.
They are just not open to meeting people from online..even if the convo is going well.
I've only gotten 1 phone number and 1 meeting (set for tomorrow..but she wouldn't give a phone number)

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Post: #1Beginner's Night Game in Belarus/Russia/ (E. Ukraine)
hmmm... ok, my least well known game.
I've gotten laid off of day game and internet game..but never even had a makeout in a club.

this is gonna take some practice

What do I do? go up to girls and introduce myself in Russian?
what openers do you use?

Privyet dyevushki...



PS. in addition to the power outage today, I get to hear drunken Russian songs all day(Orthodox Easter)...lovely

Post: #13

Seems she really turned cold.

Did she ask whether you owned the place where you live?!

This is the convo with the busty teen on VK yesterday

Post: #14

(04-15-2012 01:55 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Seems she really turned cold.

Did she ask whether you owned the place where you live?!

This is the convo with the busty teen on VK yesterday

you see, you write to them in English.

On occasion, I get girls that are interested in English speakers/foreigners.

However, that is a small percentage of girls.

Seeing as how I can only write to 20 new vk people per day (unless I go an make multiple accts, which I may)...that would be too low of a response rate.



She turned cold because she looked over my profile and saw that my university was located in the USA. I deleted that info and now they all assume I am a native.

I spoke with a woman in Odessa who told me to do this..hide the fact that I'm a foreigner until we actually meet...by then she's already invested time/effort as well as had a chance to see that I'm not a bad guy.

Deb, you say you bang mostly 7/8s... if you spoke Russian/Ukrainian you would be banging 10s all day long.. at least IMO

Post: #15

Anyone have tips on Night game... (eg opening in Russian language)?

What do you say?

I might have to start frequenting the Russian PUA forums more and start posting questions there.

Post: #16

Example of night game in Belarus:
-Are you from Vitebsk?
-Yes.
-Nice city.
-Yes,I know.
-Do you want a drink?
-Yes.
-What drink do you want?
-I want vodka with orange juice.
-And your girlfriend?
-She will also drink vodka like me.
-This is good.Here are your vodkas.
-Thanks.
-I am from Greece.I came to Belarus for holidays.
-My mother works in Greece.
-Have you been?
-No.
-In what city?
-Athens.
-I am from Athens.What are you doing in Vitebsk?
-Now studying.
-What are you studying?Economics?
-No.I study pedagodics.
-Interesting.Do you like Belarussian children?
-Yes.
-They are good.I see you have very big clubs in Belarus.
-I like this one.
-Do you have a phone number?
-Yes.
-Give it to me.
-O.K.
-O.K.I will call you tomorrow.
-O.K.

Post: #17

(04-15-2012 02:03 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 01:55 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Seems she really turned cold.

Did she ask whether you owned the place where you live?!

This is the convo with the busty teen on VK yesterday

you see, you write to them in English.

On occasion, I get girls that are interested in English speakers/foreigners.

However, that is a small percentage of girls.

Seeing as how I can only write to 20 new vk people per day (unless I go an make multiple accts, which I may)...that would be too low of a response rate.



She turned cold because she looked over my profile and saw that my university was located in the USA. I deleted that info and now they all assume I am a native.

I spoke with a woman in Odessa who told me to do this..hide the fact that I'm a foreigner until we actually meet...by then she's already invested time/effort as well as had a chance to see that I'm not a bad guy.

Deb, you say you bang mostly 7/8s... if you spoke Russian/Ukrainian you would be banging 10s all day long.. at least IMO

I must learn and stop making excuses for my laziness

Post: #18

(04-15-2012 02:30 PM)Spartan Wrote:  Anyone have tips on Night game... (eg opening in Russian language)?

What do you say?

I might have to start frequenting the Russian PUA forums more and start posting questions there.

Holy shit...Russian PUA forums have some good advice.

SUMMARY-

Dress well. (no jeans , instead dress pants)
Act alpha- slowly walk to the bar, sit down and order a drink but face the dance area..look around the club with confidence
-Look for eye contact. Best sign that an approach will go well.

Из личного опыта съёма в клубах могу сказать:
Попробуй сменить модель поведения. По первости тоже получал много отказов, хотя вёл себя активно, проявлял инициативу, подходил, танцевал, на что в ответ кривые гримассы или посылы...Но всё изменилось, когда сменил тактику, теперь: захожу в клуб, не торопясь обхожу танцпол, высматривая чем можно пожевиться, показываю себя, направляюсь в сторону бара, там беру коньяк/коктейль/пиво, устраиваюсь поудобнее, закуриваю(алкоголь и сигареты можно исключить), при этом распологаюсь так, чтобы видеть танцпол и тех, кто подходит к бару, т.е. к бару спиной, лицом к людям или вполоборота...Наблюдаю за происходящим, при этом на лице читается: "ну что, кто хочет меня снять?, давайте, красотки, не стесняемся", при этом внутренне состояние такое же: "я - альфа, мегасамец, девушки должны добиваться меня, т.к. я лучшее из того, что может быть в их жизни", только это состояние должно быть настоящим, а не наигронным(иначе беда тебе). Увереннность в себе - вот на что ведутся девушки, даже если ты сам не проявляешь инициативу, это должно на тебе читаться. Внешний вид тоже обязателен, для таких случаев забудь про джинсы и футболки, одевай брюки, ремень, рубашку, туфли.

Первый эксперимент дал положительный результат, ждать долго не пришлось, уже минут через 10 - 15 я мило беседовал с девушкой, которая сама подошла и начала разговор с комплимента...

Если идёшь в клуб для того, чтобы снять девочку, забудь про друзей и тем более про большие компании, "работай" в одиночку. Ну или договорь с другом, чтоб не отсвечивал рядом с тобой.

P.S. это не панацея, а только личный опыт.



From personal experience, removal of the clubs can say:
Try to change the behavior. By pervosti also getting a lot of failures, although behaved actively, showed initiative, came and danced on that in response curves grimassy or promises ... But everything changed when the changed tactics, now: I go to the club, slowly walk around the dance floor, looking for What can pozhevitsya, showing himself, heading toward the bar, where I take brandy / cocktail / beer, sit back, light a (alcohol and cigarettes can be eliminated), at the same time are placed so you can see the dance floor and those who are coming to the bar, so is back to the bar, facing the people, or half-turned ... Watching the scene, while on the face reads: "Well, who wants me to take off?, let's beauties, are not ashamed", and the internal state is the same: "I - alpha megasamets, the girls must work to me, since I'm the best out of what might be in their life ", but this condition must be real and not naigronnym (otherwise the trouble is you). Uverennnost in itself - that's what being a girl, even if you did not take the initiative, it should be read to you. Appearance is also required, for such cases forget about jeans and T-shirts, dress pants, belt, shirt, shoes.

The first experiment gave a positive result, did not have to wait a long time already after 10 minutes - 15, I had a nice conversation with the girl, who herself came over and started a conversation with a compliment ...

If you go to a club in order to remove the girl, forget about your friends and even more about the big companies, "play" on its own. Well, or contract with one another, so as not shone next to you.

P.S. is not a panacea, but personal experience.

Post: #19

OK sample Dialogue I will try in the club:


Привет, как дела?
Ты из хххгорода?

Мне нравится ваш город. Очень чисты и красивы.
Хочеш коктейла?

А я из xxxи, приехал на курс русского языка.
Ты была в xxxе ?

А в других странах путешествовала?
Какие языки ты знаешь?
(follow up questions)


Что делаешь в жизнь? Учишься?
(follow up questions)

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Hi, how are you?
You're from hhhgoroda?

I love your city. Very clean and beautiful.
Want a cocktail?

I'm from xxxd, came to the Russian language course.
Have you been to xxxd?

And in other countries traveled?
What languages ​​do you know?
(follow up questions)


What are you doing in life? Are you studying?
(follow up questions)

Post: #20

Ту из ....?
Красивы город.
Я из...Хочешь пит?
Вот эта.Была у нас?
Работаешь здесь?
Приехал в отпуске.
Как тебя зовут?
Эта у тебя телефоны номер?
Хорошо.Вуду звонит тебя завтра.

Post: #21

(04-15-2012 03:12 PM)Spartan Wrote:  OK sample Dialogue I will try in the club:


Привет, как дела?
Ты из хххгорода?

Мне нравится ваш город. Очень чисты и красивы.
Хочеш коктейла?

А я из xxxи, приехал на курс русского языка.
Ты была в xxxе ?

А в других странах путешествовала?
Какие языки ты знаешь?
(follow up questions)


Что делаешь в жизнь? Учишься?
(follow up questions)

----------------


Hi, how are you?
You're from hhhgoroda?

I love your city. Very clean and beautiful.
Want a cocktail?

I'm from xxxd, came to the Russian language course.
Have you been to xxxd?

And in other countries traveled?
What languages ​​do you know?
(follow up questions)


What are you doing in life? Are you studying?
(follow up questions)

are you studying in Russia? are you taking the Russian language course for Foreign Students? if you're a native English speaker, make contact with the Foreign Laguage Faculty, tell them you would like to communicate in their classes, in most cases they will be glad to have you talk to their students, I took the Russian language course for Foreign students two years ago, I started speaking in English classes, and from there I became involved in the university English club, met alot of nice girls, you'll become a part of a large social circle and meet some profesors who may pull some strings for you later.

Post: #22

(04-15-2012 02:48 PM)Spartan Wrote:  Holy shit...Russian PUA forums have some good advice.

SUMMARY-

Dress well. (no jeans , instead dress pants)
Act alpha- slowly walk to the bar, sit down and order a drink but face the dance area..look around the club with confidence
-Look for eye contact. Best sign that an approach will go well.

Dress well. That is an absolute must in Russia. You go for a walk along Nevsky Prospect for example, it is so easy to spot the foreigner. You will find if a Russian woman needs to walk down the street to buy something she will get dressed up for it. Quite a few of the men are like this too. They take great pride in their appearance, not just going out to nightclubs but in general. When you leave a club for example many of them will have mirrors by the cloakroom. The amount of time the women and some of the men take preening themselves is crazy. I have been with women who would spend 10-15 minutes adjusting their jacket, brushing their hair etc just for leaving a restaurant or bar and hopping into a taxi. in all honesty, nobody does vanity quite like a Russian.

As far as act alpha and look for eye contact, half the forum has probably already told you that already. That's not Russian advice, that's global advice. The dress part as well.

Post: #23

I'm bumping this thread because I think day game in the FSU is overlooked.
I hit a huge low point after my last dating disaster..so I can only go up from here I'm excited to try out some day game.

Greek is saying to go with night game in the East of Ukraine and Belarus...I disagree..
everyone here is telling me you get bad girls in night clubs here (sponsorettes, alcoholics,etc.) Also, from what I saw on Friday..a lot of the hotter girls don't go to night clubs.

all the girls I've talked with said it would be completely ok to do approaches in stores, at university campus, etc.

I'm going to do 10 approaches at university tomorrow and see how it goes!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell, maybe I could use my iphone to record some convos and get feedback on it here.

Anyone have any tips before I go in? ))

Post: #24

I have written girls do not respond to street game in eastern Belarus.It is weird for them.They respond only in western Belarus.
Anyway if you search for good girls...good luck.(usually the bad ones are prone to meeting a foreigner).

Post: #25

Hilarious how Google Translate returns "removal" and "take off" as the translation of the russian word for "pick-up"
I bet if you feed it an original paragraph in English and have it translate to Russian, then feed it the output and translate back to English, you would hardly recognize your original piece.

Also interesting that Russian PUA advice is to go out solo.
What I didn't like was the piece about how if you just look sharp and confident, girls will approach you. Don't wait for that - approach yourself!