Post: #26

Drinking-I can be really good at cockblocking myself now and then.

Logistics-I live 20 minutes from where I normally go out and getting a cab is a bitch.

Social anxiety- This isn't too bad anymore but still comes into play on occasion. Booze helps but if I tip over the edge my personality does a 180 which isn't good.

Post: #27

1. Talking too much

2. Not going out at night

3. Being logical

Post: #28

1. Fear of cross-contamination. I am in a committed relationship and fear flirting at nearly all the places I go because of the obvious. My city is not that big.

2. Approach anxiety. I like to receive IOI's before I initiate any interaction; however, there are many times when solid IOI's do not come my way. Thus, I cold approach with low confidence and often fail to close.

3. Use of Pron Why hunt (with my circumstances) when there's this?

Post: #29

What keeps me apart of men:

1. Logics: I live 1h away (by bus) of the best spots. Public transport is not 24hs and I don't have a car. Cab here is impossible to think about it.

2. I often think that no one is interest on me, so I talk to people as potential friends, never as lovers.

3. I am more shy and reserved than average, but I make friends easily but not lovers (as #2)

Post: #30

1.Moody

On occasion I get very moody and introverted and nothing gets me out of it. When I go out like that, I feel I'm being dragged and under-perform during a night out. I am slowly learning that I should just stay indoors when I'm caught of such moods, and just wait for them to go away. This is what keeps me from day game as well, as I need to be psyched up to game, and I need some rituals and concentration for that.

2.Lack of persistence

...Especially when escalating. I need to remind myself to escalate and touch girls, otherwise I just keep chatting. I still think too much before I touch them and give up easily. I also get tired and feel like leaving too early in the night, especially when I'm on my moody periods.

3.Poor logistics

I need to get into the habit of having my place ready and set just in case I bring a girl over the same night. By doing that, I'd have the proper mindset to make it happen. Might need to have some food in stock also (something I never do) just in case.

Post: #31

1. Socially retarded friends: My friends are awesome, but they suck as wingmen. They get shit-your-pants drunk, go out super late, insist on rolling 3+ deep, cockblock, compete for girls, and are terrified to approach without at least 8 shots in them. My success rate is at least double when I go out alone; but bros before hos. Right? RIGHT?

2. Ejecting too early Sometimes I approach a girl just to get my conscience to stop calling me a pussy. I say a few sentences and walk away, even when she has not rejected me yet. Still a pussy.

3. Hesitation During both night and day, I sometimes get in the vicinity of the target and linger trying to think of a better line or elderly opener. She catches me looking, I feel awkward, and the appoach either sucks or doesn't happen.

Post: #32

Drinking – Like most kiwis/aussies I like my booze. I can easily start enjoying the beer more than the women on occasions

Shyness – At first I can be introverted. I am extroverted around friends but strangers I tend to be shy around.

Fear of Rejection – Something I definitely need to work on. Back when I was young and single I wouldn’t talk to many women out of fear of rejection

Post: #33

Now that everyone's had a chance to contribute to the top 3 bad qualities post /thread-12129.html , I've gone back and noticed that there are several things that came up the most. Here's a breakdown in order:

1 ) Fear - this is most obvious and manifests as approach anxiety (excuses/rationalizations for not approaching, hesitating), ejecting too early / not ejecting soon enough*, drinking too much, talking too much (this could be fear related.. sometimes we can fear silence in a conversation, and there can be good reasons for this), not feeling confident, over-thinking things (possible fear of not being prepared).

2) Logisitics - this one came up a lot. Includes: having a bad living situation (parents, too far from location), low funds, not having a pad set for bang, no back-up plan.

3) Laziness : Not looking your best, Not putting in the time, spending too much time on other leisure pursuits (like gambling), getting in the harem mindset.

3) Impatience can come in the form of being too much of an asshole, going with the easy thing (booty calling instead of going out), ejecting too early.

4) Not being able to read girls properly: disregarding signs (IOIs, IODs) or having no idea how to interepret body language. Essentially, just not communicating with women (because almost everything with women is subcommunicated).

5) Body Language (self): not moving with confidence, weak vocal tone, pecking, etc. (check out these threads for more /thread-11930....y+language
/thread-11877....y+language )

5) Timing This overlaps with a few of the other categories but includes, ejecting too soon or not soon enough, not knowing when to escalate (hesitating, or pushing too far too soon). On another level this is not gaming during the day, not going out at night. I'd also texting too soon, and setting up dates for awkward days/times.

Post: #34

Aloofness 60% of my lays was because I fell into it. Either they were feelin me and finally stepped up, drunkenness, or because of my skin tone. To this day I still suck at picking up IOI's.

Logistics Being out here in Kuwait. It's two man rooms. My roommate is cool so whenever I need the time he has me, but it's still a mental block for me. There is alot of smashing in Kuwait and I'm not doing it.

Military The game is dirty and slanted out here. For some reason I attract officers which is a no no. The young ones are either scary or scares me because of their stupidness. We already have had a few soldier sent home because of snitches. Fraternization and marriage couples. Plus the ratio is ridiculous.

I need to step up and stop making excuses. Next week I get out of here for two weeks so I may be rusty but the first lizard I catch will be walkin bowlegged for a day or two haha.

Post: #35

1) I don't go out enough. Maybe it's age(about to turn 36) but the bar/club thing has gotten tired for me.

2) I'm not naturally aggressive. I don't have that snatch killer instinct. I'm too calm and laid back, but that's just my natural temperament. Going caveman is completely antithetical to who I am.

3) Can sometimes get too caught up in "interesting" conversation rather than sexual tension conversation, and can have challenges at times creating sexual tension in girls that aren't already into me from the get go.

Post: #36

1) Everything

2) Everything I haven't yet listed

Actually, I guess it'd go like this:

1) Not enough approaches. I don't day game much, and when I'm out I generally wait until I have demonstrated signfiicant value (generally by dancing at a club, or by karaoke at a club as I'm a very good singer and entertainer). This bumps my marginal success rate up, but not enough to overcome sheer numbers.

2) Spending too much time on other shit. This isn't a bad thing since I've spent something like 500 hours over the last 9 months or so putting a CD together and performing live music (end game - scads of goth chick pussy), but I don't go out gaming much. I got inspired by Samseau's dance game HoF post and got myself motivated for a trip down to the nearby goth club where I got some much needed confidence boosters, but I haven't been putting in serious hours on Friday and Saturday nights doing it. On some of my off days, I dance salsa and that's a giant low-return time sink.

3) Not having enough experience in dealing with girls' horseshit. This is something I'm actively working on, but it's gonna be an enormous amount of work. One of the girls I was making out at the club last weekend was being a weirdo after a bit, so I started dancing/kissing with another one, and then she left after I got her number (I don't think logistics would have worked out, although I guess I should have pressed since she had facial piercings). I went back to the first one and she was being obstreperous, and I should have been able to handle that better. In the end I gave her a smug smile and said 'see ya later' and bailed on her, and I'm personally proud of my ability to do that, but I probably could have found a way to turn that around instead. I learned a lot from that experience, including that it's ok to make out with more than one girl at a club (and this probably had no more than 50 people in it that night, so that's a pretty good ratio I guess).

Post: #37

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It was $60 at Sephora (great place for day game, btw), and my #2 always has some ridiculous coupon for $10 off or something, so I walked out of there paying $43.

Changed my life -- I received compliments on my face for the first time in years just days after using it.

Post: #38

1. Getting too drunk, drinking too often
2. Approach Anxiety
3. Inability to maintain conversation

When I was younger getting drunk helped me initiate and maintain conversations, now getting drunk most often puts me into an antisocial state. Lately I've been able to get drunk less often(IE instead of every day maybe 4-5 times a week) which has helped.

Post: #39

Logistics I can't host because my apartment is a ghetto shithole and my roommates can't clean to save their lives

Laziness If a girl's not actually interesting to me at the moment I won't push myself to approach.

Honesty If a girl says something stupid I tend to call her on it and end the interaction. This leads to a LOT of lost lays.

Post: #40

(04-27-2012 08:48 PM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  Logistics I can't host because my apartment is a ghetto shithole and my roommates can't clean to save their lives

Laziness If a girl's not actually interesting to me at the moment I won't push myself to approach.

Honesty If a girl says something stupid I tend to call her on it and end the interaction. This leads to a LOT of lost lays.

Dude I feel your pain with the dirty apartment one. Every single group of dudes I've lived with couldn't clean to save their lives. The place I just moved into is so dirty I wear shoes around the house. I spent 2 hours scrubbing the kitchen (extremely small). Turns out the cupboards were white instead of beige. I just had a girl over and I banged her before she had to use the bathroom, she went after sex and just said "what the fuck" she cut me some slack as I just moved in. A clean house is one of the most important things around, no girl wants to come to your place and see grimy countertops, sinks full of dishes and a dusty ass room. Shows you don't put effort into things.

Post: #41

(04-15-2012 09:28 PM)Samseau Wrote:  1. I hate talking to women - This one really fucks up my talking game. I can ramble... but I get bored. I can pretend to be interested... but it looks forced, and girls notice. Women are the most uninteresting objects on earth.

Since talking is one of the most effective ways to get laid, not enjoying conversation is my worst pitfall. How can you do pickup when all of the strategies to get laid involve something you loathe doing?

Thank god for dancing, or I'd probably have to shoot myself.

That's my biggest killer too. Whenever I have to talk to most women, I get the voice in the back of my head saying, "oh shit I've had this lame conversation two hundred times before where they start asking about jobs and shit... who cares what I do, I just wanna fuck."

And in too much booze on occasion and it becomes "this bitch is too annoying, get the fuck away from me"


I enjoy women for their physicality, not their conversational skills (or lack thereof).

Post: #42

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Post: #43

(04-23-2012 07:00 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  1) I don't go out enough. Maybe it's age(about to turn 36) but the bar/club thing has gotten tired for me.

2) I'm not naturally aggressive. I don't have that snatch killer instinct. I'm too calm and laid back, but that's just my natural temperament. Going caveman is completely antithetical to who I am.

3) Can sometimes get too caught up in "interesting" conversation rather than sexual tension conversation, and can have challenges at times creating sexual tension in girls that aren't already into me from the get go.

+1

I would consider those my exact same problems.

Also I am an approach machine if I have a wing however when I roll solo I am terrified of approaching,it's the part of my make up I need to change most as it means I miss out on so many day game opportunities.

Post: #44

1. Too lazy to learn a foreign language to conversational level (therefore miss out on girls that don't speak English)
2. Weak/nonexistent day game
3. Drink too much when out at night

Post: #45

For me:
1.

(04-15-2012 08:27 AM)Tengen Wrote:  Logistics

2.

(04-14-2012 01:23 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Approach Anxiety

3.

(04-15-2012 09:28 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Laziness

Post: #46

1. Too Big of an Assclown
I'm a funloving dude, once I have had a few drinks I'm like Ron White on speed. Unless women are equally as drunk as I am, they simply do not take me seriously enough, even though I am plenty aggressive. Last night for example. I took pickup to a figurative stage and literally grabbed a girl, picked her up, and tried to make her sober cab my drunk ass to a burger king. I think it would have worked for the lay, but I did get cockblocked and some dude drove me. I also smile too much.

2. Latent alcoholism
Alcoholism is big in my family, and I probably have a latent case of it. While I have never had a problem toning down my drinking, or not drinking for months at a time, there were nights when nothing was going on, so I figured I'd get shithammered and was cockblocked by it anyway. I can see bad potential for using it as a crutch to game women or treat depression (my old man and grandfather may have done this), so whenever I get a bad case of the blues I swear off it.

3. Sort of solid day game, bad night game
While I can be charming and relevant at times, I simply do not kino enough. I have gotten much attraction during the day because I've been known to be sociable and upbeat, at night I usually do not caveman enough. Working on it though.

Post: #47

1) Fear, same thing that gets me on a lot of things, but I will say this is getting better.

2) Desire to only approach women I'm interested in already (resulting in too few approaches and low experience); combating this by treating approaches as practice even if I have no intent.

3) Slow to escalate; haven't internalized that women actually want/welcome escalation in many cases.