Post: #1

What do you think are the top 3 qualities that account for the bangs you've gotten?

Here's mine:

1. Persistence. I really don't give up. I do the approaches, don't complain about the rejections, and just keep going until either I have nothing left or get lucky.

2. Conversation/ramble. I can talk about anything with girls from all types of backgrounds for extended periods of time without getting any feedback in return. Lots of girls say that my talkative nature makes them feel comfortable.

3. Scientist mind. I constantly experiment new techniques to see if they improve my ROI. I'm never satisfied with the status quo. I also analyze all my experiences for possible ways to improve.

Post: #2

1. Balls--I'll do or say anything to a random girl in a bar and I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks. I'm indifferent to rejection and not afraid to escalate. I can get shot down 10 times in a row and not have any reservations about making that 11th approach.
2. Planning--I always have my logistics optimized, taking into account the constraints I face. I plan ahead and lock everything down to the best of my ability so I won't get cockblocked by something that wasn't beyond my control. I wouldn't be caught dead without a condom or cab fare on me.
3. Persistence--Once I get a girl to a private location, I feel like I've failed if I don't come away with the notch. I go hard in the paint and use every tool at my disposal to break down resistance, no matter how long it takes.

Rambling is probably what I could stand to improve at the most. To this day I still have problems maintaining a conversation when I'm not getting any feedback, although I'm pretty charming and witty when the girl is doing her part.

Post: #3

1. Laid back/chill/easygoing etc, but can switch into serious mode or adapt to certain situations. Helps me get along with people or diffuse situations. Guys don't really see me as a threat until they find out I banged the girl they always wanted to. It gives me that aloof/don't give a fuck attitude. I've had girls tell me they wish they had my ability not to stress.

2. Sense of humour/ramble. Like Roosh said I can just go off on anything, but keep it interesting. I also am quick witted and will make comments on a situation or something like that. Generally all around saying stuff that makes them laugh.

3. Quickness of the mind, I can see themes/patterns easily, I can interpret people's signals easily, parry shit tests (most of the time) all of that without much thought. To add to this the quickness makes me more confident and more ballsy etc.

Honorable mention: Ridiculous good looks. Uhhhh sure why not, girls have called me sexy/hot/cute but I don't see it, I guess if I got my body up to par I'd be killin' it.

Post: #4

1.Speed.I am generally very fast.All around me say it.
2.Vision for hotties.I see hot women from very far away while other guys do not even notice.
3.Sensitivity,eye for detail.I see things that other guys fail to see.I remember whole conversations what each one said.If we go to clubs I am the first usually to spot the targets.Most people notice the very obvious they miss the detail.They also miss many movements around them in the environment.
Also ability to focus.

Post: #5

1) I am good at making women admit sexual things about themselves in a non-judgmental way. I've coerced countless women into anal this way.

2) I am atypical in every single way from every other guy they've ever met - from my style of dress, to the music I listen to, to what I talk about (usually history or science). Many girls have said I am unlike every other dude out there.

3) Aloofness. I just don't give a shit whether I get laid or not and my body language never betrays me.

Post: #6

Geez, I'm not persistent ever. I lose interest fast.

My three:

1. Aloof, I really don't care enough, until they start showing major attraction.

2. DHV / social proof: I help dozens of guys a year start small side businesses, and they always talk me up, to which I deny everything.

3. Microexression reading: there was a show on cable called Lie to Me that many friends said I should watch. The main character and I have similar social graces, and I'm pretty certain I can pick up microexpressions and cold read people from them.

These are also my reasons for being good in business. Even at my retail shops, I'm aloof. I've asked new walk-ins directly why "we" should do business with them. Helps reduce negotiations over price.

That being said, when I'm not getting laid on the regular, I still slip into old beta ways. No idea why, but 3 years ago my top 2 gals moved away and my backups were all in monogamy at the same time. That was a bad spring - horniness weakened my game.

Post: #7

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Post: #8

1) Kavorka power (See seinfield) - I don't know if its pheremones or intensity or what but if I can get a girl to kino then I have the bang. I don't do high powered deodorant and no scented anything else but will get girls throwing out "oh my god you smell so good" if they get in close, and I always close those ones. Another girl said "you just exude sex"

2) Storyteller - Telling stories is easy for me and I can do it outside of 'game' as well for public speaking or whipping up a ninjas vs. dinosaurs tale for the kids. Works just as well with women and stories for interest or proof. I'm a regular Robert Munsch (for my fellow canadians)

3) Strategist - This comes in handy with being a story teller above. I can step out of the conversation while my mouth is still running a story and plan my next moves once the current thread slows down.

Notice: Aloof, balls, social proof are not my strengths and so night game, dance game and clubs are crappy options for me. Day game and dive bar/pub game is where I clean up. In short, I would die on Jersey Shore but would destroy Dawsons Creek.

Post: #9

1. Mysterious: A lot of women, even some I knew for years before banging, said I am mysterious. Maybe because I only talk about current events because that is what is going on and is exciting. I don't give up a thing from my past, like Seinfeld, it's in a vault. Sometimes in groups, I'll keep to myself and be independent. Later on after I bang one, they tell me I'm mysterious. Less is more, keep them wanting.

2. Easy going - I can talk to anyone about anything. I take a lot of pride in the fact I know at least one fact/or something that can relate to any topic. I can carry a conversation and force her to interact if I have IOIs. This does not mean I am not aggressive, it means that I know when I need to step it up a notch and make a move. Patience/Planning work here too.

3. Smile/facial expressions - Had braces, have perfect white teeth, solid complexion, and girls love the dimples. I know how to use my facial expressions to my advantage meaning I manipulate my facial body language to some degree.

Post: #10

1. Next level cocky/funny. This is the core of my gaming women. I don't come off as a clown, still having an "edge" underneath the jokes. This throws people off. I'm different.

2. Magnetic personality. I'm genuine and care, and people key in on this. You can still give a fuck without giving a fuck. "Don't sweat the small shit."

3. Hair. Long hair is amazing. The girls at my work are constantly playing with it. The guys are jealous, but give me props.

Dunno, Emech was around me, and can probably explain it better. I don't think about myself too much, or I get mad and want to smack me.

Post: #11

Ambition - I got into game before I knew game even existed, in fact I found out about it by completely random chance. I used to be terrible with women until I decided I wanted to be a player. At which point I started hustling my ass off, I got buff, I started traveling, and I got into a "you can't defeat me attitude." It really isn't much compared to what the other guys on here are up to, but of all the guy's I know at school or back home I'm the only one who ever takes initiative and will do something.

Funny/cocky - I'm usually the guy who makes everyone laugh, I don't make fun of myself or anything I just am a naturally humorous and entertaining guy.

I-don't-ever-want-to-go-back-there fear - During high school, which I only graduated last spring, I was always low man on the totem poll. Our whole school was less than 100 students, so it was small as fuck, and I was the only guy who didn't fit in. While I was there I didn't get any and basically every other dude busted my balls about it and the fact that I was a nerd. That right there was probably the biggest driving factor for me. In fact every time I feel worn down and don't want to do that next approach or last rep of sit-ups, I just remember that stuff which always drives me the extra mile.

Post: #12

1. Looks
2. Looks
3. Looks

Haven't had much of an ability to develop a game. Either girls right away fall head over heels or they're already not interested and no amount of game will change their mind

Post: #13

1- persistence - i'm less persistent now but when my 80 girls challenge was up i was a persistent motherfucker.

2 - heavy and seductive kino from the start

3 - being Bepha™ - A mix of being Beta and Alpha. I find this very hard to explain. Obviously being straight up Beta doesn't get you anywhere but i noticed that being a straight up Alpha male doesn't always work either. Its better to mix it up on the right moments. I would guess being 80 % alpha and 20% beta.I think it's more for when you want to keep the girl around for a while.

Post: #14

1. Looks. I get a lot of eye contact right out of the gate. Rarely do I do a full on "cold approach." Usually a girl will give a quick IOI.

2. Relentlessness. I keep escalating, always pushing for the close. A girl once said, "You are going to be frustrated," as I kept pushing for the close. (After I fucked her, she was a little freaked out..."I don't do that. No, don't look at me like that. I really don't do that.")

Keep moving...Inches...Keep moving.

"One inch at a time."





3. A respect for the game. The game is bigger than me or anyone else.

The game was there in Casanova's day. Rasputin was running game before the communist revolution.

The game will be there long after I've quit the game. I will die, and the game will still be there.

I'm a speck of dust on the beach of game.

So I respect the game.

When shit goes wrong, girls are bitches, or the night doesn't go right, or there's just no way a hook up is going all the way...I don't get angry.

I view failure as being part of the game.



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Post: #15

1. Slut radar. I have refined my ability to pick out girls that are not only likely to put out, but that fuck guys like me. Solid target selection is responsible for most of my lays and reduces the amount of effort that I have to put in. I'm also good at sensing when a girl who normally wouldn't fuck me, is in the mood for a guy like me. I'm real good at reading girls expressions and body language.

2. Swag. I have self-confidence that isn't explained by my abilities. I'm confident at most of the shit I do and this leaks into my social interactions. My cocky humor comes from this and most girls like it. A few girls hate it, but they end up fucking me too sometimes.

3. Edge. I look like trouble, and girls seem to dig this.

Post: #16

1. Looks. decent height, blue eyes, white, okay looking face, classy clothes. This helps with Latin girls outside Argentina.

2. Dual Citizen. Basically have lived 10 years in Buenos Aires and 15 years in Miami. In Miami I look like an everyday white dude and latin girls would be impressed when I busted out native Argentine spanish, plus they love the accent. This usually gives me a unique perspective and I'm seen as different and interesting.

3. Genuine personality. Very little filter. I'm very social, which makes girls I've met in public transport feel comfortable with me yet they tend to imagine I've done this before and they aren't my first day game lay. One time when I was with a girl and she talked about wanting a kid and how she might have it alone I told her "Hey you're a cool girl, I'm sure you could find a guy to have a kid with. One of the things you'd have to do is stop wasting your time with dudes like me " I said it in a funny way but it was true as I don't want to have a kid for like 10 more years. This was before the bang and I got it that night.

Post: #17

(04-13-2012 04:34 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  1.Speed.I am generally very fast.All around me say it.
2.Vision for hotties.I see hot women from very far away while other guys do not even notice.
3.Sensitivity,eye for detail.I see things that other guys fail to see.I remember whole conversations what each one said.If we go to clubs I am the first usually to spot the targets.Most people notice the very obvious they miss the detail.They also miss many movements around them in the environment.
Also ability to focus.

My game is not fully operational yet. The more I'm learning, the more problems I see with what I'm doing. That said, as a result of learning some game, and a lot of persistence, I am able to consistently mack it to average/slightly-above avg. girls successfully. I'm trying to move up to higher quality girls.

Like Kamaki, one of my natural skills is speed. Once I smell an opening in her armor, I move very fast. My friends have always noticed this and were puzzled as to how I could go from talking to a girl I just met and then 5 minutes later have my tongue down her throat. And this is before I discovered game info/blogs.

Persistence/discipline is probably the second most important trait that I have or have cultivated.

I think I have some kind of killer/hunter instinct, which where these traits probably come from.

I don't think I'm the best looking guy, but I've had a lot of girls and some buddies remark on my looks. There might be some truth in that, but I think girls don't know how to articulate what it is they like about guys.

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Another weird one (weird because it can be a curse and a blessing), is that I can sometimes be extremely self-confident and then flip to being completely insecure.

This is a trait I've always had and something that I still live with. The bad parts of it are obvious, but the good parts have landed me in some alpha situations.

A problem with this is that people often mistake it for incongruity. Like, if I am really self-confident at one time or with a particular thing, and then show massive amounts of anxiety about another, they tend to think I'm sneaky or lying, even though the feelings are evoked by separate stimuli. I think that is because charisma might be registered in the limbic part of the brain where emotions rule, so if you are constantly switching emotions, than it probably sends a red alert. (BTW I'm not bi-polar). Anyway, as I learn game, my overall confidence is growing.

Post: #18

1. Transitioning to Close. Once I have a girl on the "hook" so to speak, I'm pretty good at finding a way to get back to my place to bang. I'll have the end goal in mind (returning home), and work backwards to get there. For example, last time I was in Vegas I got the girl back to my room by telling her to leave the club to go gamble, then saying I'm only lucky at my hotel (not the hotel we were at), to saying I need to use the restroom upstairs in my room as the bathrooms in the casino lobby are dirty, and somehow texted my buddy to stay out of the room. Obviously when we got upstairs we never made it down again.

2. Looks. I'll never attract a punk chick, rocker girl, tattoed girl, etc. I have a clean cut look that apparently works for a lot of those type of girls (so I've been told). But I've been told by girls that I'm attractive. I really need to incorporate that into my inner game more.

3. Sexual Teasing. I've learned to become a good kisser and to tease girls into getting ready for sex. Another thing I do and find that works is to eyefuck the shit out of a girl when I'm already engaged in conversation. I'll let the convo drop and just stare at her with a slight smirk and repeat in my head "i'm going to fuck the shit out of you" over and over. If they smile, look away and say "what are you looking at!" I'm doing it right.

A lot of my strong points stem from after I've attained that initial interest. I really want to work on going from initial meet to attaining that interest - that will lead me to a lot more success is my belief.

Post: #19

1. My Mouthpiece: My one true talent. I can tell stories, bullshit, ridicule, tease, and brag with the best of them. I can talk non-stop. I have a killer dead-pan. I can fill space with interesting shit and improvise on the mundane-est of bullshit with panache. I make up jokes on the spot. I am a talker. Quiet girls love me. Chatty Cathies often yield the floor. I shut up periodically (since I don't want to talk myself out of some pussy), but they pretty much ask me to keep talking.

2. My Obsessively Logistical Mind: I think of everything in advance, twice. If there's some angle, some risk, some excuse, chances are: I already thought about it. If you ever needed to organize one of those Hollywood-style bank heists, you'd want me on your team. I would think of everything that could happen and from where. This is a double-edged sword, of course, since I can sometimes over-think things. This is a weird trait for an impulsive and improvisational guy like me to have. But, I tend to plan in advance, so when I "go on stage" I'm just rolling with the punches.

3. My Simultaneously Harmless and Manly Vibe: I've gotten enough feedback on this that I know it's a major contributor. On the one hand, my looks and approach convey a playfulness and friendliness that seems harmless to most girls. Maybe I seem a little neurotic and eccentric, but that's just silly entertainment to them. Yet, they get blasts of a manly swagger and confidence (bolstered by a casual-cool style and periodic bragging) that complicates the pictures. This throws chicks for a massive loop and they spend a lot of time trying to understand how I could be both. This journey often leads to my bedroom. This trait gets me into trouble too, since it sets off Boyfriend-Material Alerts all over the place.

Post: #20

not sure, will get back to you once i rack up more lays

Post: #21

1. My bedroom game. I'm not even trying to brag, but the fact is I've got a 95% kill rate once a chicks comes back to my apartment. There's just no way around it. She's getting fucked, and she will come back for more. I'm honestly perplexed when friends tell me they couldn't close the deal when the girl was in their apartment. I mean, if she's agreed to come this far then that means she likes and wants to fuck you, so how in the world do you fuck that up? I use to have trouble closing when I was a teenager, but that was because I still thought girls wanted a guy to be "respectful" at all times.

2. My Lifestyle. I've been traveling since I was 18, and unbeknownst to me at the time, a lot of girls find a traveling man very attractive. Things that seemed so blase to me, and even annoying at times, would be so interesting to the young girl locked away in her little village. Eventually I learned to sex up my stories a bit and use them to my advantage. I also have played in rock bands all throughout my 20's, and being the only black guy in a European rock band will seriously get you attention, sometimes good and sometimes bad. But the fact that I was creative and would make music and play it for girls I'd bring over made them melt. I think every guy should have an artistic hobby, not just for girls, but to work that part of your mind and build confidence and happiness.

3. Playful personality. A lot of girls I just click with, and until I learned about things like kino and sexual escalation I didn't know to use that to get what I wanted: to see their beautiful pussies. Sometimes I go to far, but most times not. I'm really good at building rapport, and at a certain point in gaming a girl, it really just becomes automatic pilot sprinkled with sexual escalation. In my early 20's I got most of my lays by just making girls comfortable with me, but lately I have no patience for stuck up chicks. With most girls if they are open to talking to people, I will win them over and have them rolling with laughter.

Post: #22

Quote:I mean, if she's agreed to come this far then that means she likes and wants to fuck you, so how in the world do you fuck that up?

Even in Eastern Europe? I would have agreed with you a year ago, but I've had many cases of girls coming over but absolutely not putting out.

Post: #23

1. Charisma and Mental Power -- I do a lot of stand up presentations and selling, and I have this uncanny ability to bring people into the conversation and make them feel important, while still maintaining a dominant role with authority and credibility. Directly transferable to game. I am mentally quick, very articulate, and witty. I am confident, self-possessed, and convey enjoyment in every interaction. Sliding into cocky, negging, alpha conversations is a snap for me. Whenever I meet a woman who is at all appealing, I say in my mind as I am flirting or making small talk, "You know, you haven't been truly fucked until you've been fucked by me."

2. Looks and Physical stature -- Yes, I am in my late 50s but I work out like a maniac. I don't have a six pack, but I have a 34 inch waist, definition in my arms, pecs, and legs. I have a tiny little home gym, avd I curl 40 lb dumbells, shoulder press 45lb dumbells, and do bent over rows wth 80 lb dumbells. I can do 30 pushups and 50 situps. I have done a couple of rounds of P90x, and Insanity, and I mix in Insanity workouts with lifting. I can do HIIT on my home treadmill for 30 minutes - 1 minute at 8, 2 minutes at 4 -- without a problem. I am fitter than a lot of 35 years olds, and I look it. So the 35 yo cougars have no problem with my physique.

3. Bedroom skills -- I am a phenomenal kisser, and I fuck their pussies raw. I have incredible control and stamina. I am well endowed, but not overly so. The three women I am fucking now all experience multiple orgasms --even got one to squirt for the first time. Once they fuck me, they never forget.

Post: #24

It's funny...I was just watching "Goodfellas" for the umpteenth thousandth time. The scene in the nightclub when Karen and Henry first started going out, and she noticed how much juice he had, and how many people not only knew him, but RESPECTED him. And what really made her tingle was the way he handled it. He wasn't loud, he didn't rub people's nose in it, and he wasn't disrespectful to others because of his juice. He was quiet and confident with it. So yes, confidence is HUGE. It manifests itself in different ways depending on who you are, but it's incredibly important that you carry yourself with confidence.

Post: #25

Here's mine:

1. Overconfidence (a.k.a. Inner Game). This, much more than anything else, is what gets me the bangs. Not just confidence, but overconfidence: believing I am better than I am in reality. When I'm in this state, I do more approaches with hotter women, I stay persistent and plow through resistance, I assume attraction from everyone, I escalate heavily and my body language and vocal tone exude power and sexuality. On really good days, even my thought processes rearrange, almost like after meditating.
2. Looks. I've heard it from enough people to know I'm a good-looking guy. Looks matter, though I'm sure part of it is that I feel entitled to a immediate positive reaction from every girl I approach (again, overconfidence) because of my good looks. Beyond being tall, dark and handsome, I also have that "simultaneously harmless and manly vibe" that Tuthmosis mentioned above, which I think contributes strongly to my same-night lays. (I have a mysterious look that attracts women, yet I'm safe enough to go back to their apartments late at night hours after meeting them.)
3. Sexual Prowess. You game like you fuck, so this is a factor even before the first bang. I'm well-endowed, have good stamina and lay the pipe well, and my game communicates this. This quality also gets me more bangs after the first one, especially with same-night lays that might otherwise be one-night stands.