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There's a girl who I've been flirting with for a while now in school. She'd been wanting it for a while but logistics were screwing us both. I had her come over to my dorm after work last night and within 20 minutes we were fucking. +1, and a morning bj for a bonus
02-27-2015 01:44 PM
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I already posted this on the craiglist thread. But I rewrote VincentVenturi's post on Craiglist and managed to score a triracial mix. + She gave some excellent head as wellSmile
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+1

Spammed tinder at 4 pm today, got one girl out to a wine bar with me. I told her that I want to go out, and that I had plans with my buddies but they decided to stay in and play video games... and I didn't want to do that, I wanted to go out. I asked her if she liked "single men and wine?" She was like a 5, with a few extra pounds to lose, but fuck it - I hadn't gotten laid since I decided to get a divorce, and my last time was with my (ex)wife.

She looked good while she was bent over and I did her from behind.

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+1, 28 y.o. lizard (I'm 23). Very good sex.

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+1

23 y/o, 7.5 of off Tinder. Wine at her place, vibe for 2 hours with no kino. I decide to caveman and go sit at the foot of her bed, tell her to come. Palmreading. Heavy kino and make-out within 10 minutes. Move to bed. No LMR. Rawdog.

Did the American Psycho bicep flex during doggy and felt king (cliche?). She loved getting choked and having her face crammed into the pillows.

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+1

41 y/o Bolivian 6.5 off POF, she looks closer to 31 than 41 and had a nice boob job... first Bolivian flag, she looked so much better and fucked so much better than the girl from the night before. Even when I was on top of my game before I got married, I never banged two girls in one weekend, back to back!! If this is a sign of things to come, my life is gonna be a fucking pussy bonanza and I don't know how I'm going to manage it all!

I'm fucking exhausted, and I'm reserving all day Sunday as the day to myself - no game, no girls, just ME. I'll post more details about this one later. Going back to sleep, good night boys

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+2 Threesome, Details Are Here:

The Threesome I Wasn't Proud Of

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(03-01-2015 03:51 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  +1

41 y/o Bolivian 6.5 off POF, she looks closer to 31 than 41 and had a nice boob job... first Bolivian flag, she looked so much better and fucked so much better than the girl from the night before. Even when I was on top of my game before I got married, I never banged two girls in one weekend, back to back!! If this is a sign of things to come, my life is gonna be a fucking pussy bonanza and I don't know how I'm going to manage it all!

I'm fucking exhausted, and I'm reserving all day Sunday as the day to myself - no game, no girls, just ME. I'll post more details about this one later. Going back to sleep, good night boys

More details on this one. First, I set up a POF profile that presented myself as one who is NOT taking the online dating thing too seriously. Basically cocky and funny, but since it is via online, it's more tilted toward funny than cocky. Along with that, I have a nice mix of photos... a couple professional face shots, one of me skydiving, one with a group of male friends, and another partying it up with a group of girls hanging off me. HOWEVER, I do make sure my English and grammar is perfect. Women hate profiles that are badly written or riddled with grammatical mistakes.

Sent out copy & paste openers to a few girls, and almost every one of them responded. I followed up with another copy and paste message saying how all these guys send lame messages like "hey" "damn u sexy" or "wat up" and asked how they put up with that kind of shit.

One girl responded how she lost faith in humanity and is a hair away from converting to a nun Laugh (I have a date with her tomorrow). Another girl, the Bolivian, said she gets it all the time and thought my profile was funny and original. After a couple of exchanges, I go for the digits... and here occurs the critical point in the entire arc from open to bang:

Her: Well, before I give my number, what assurance do I have that you're for real and your pictures are not a hundred years old?
Me: Ahhh okay you got me. My real age is 135, and my pictures are indeed a hundred years old!
Her: Hahaha you're funny. XXX-XXX-XXXX

Then as we set up the date, we keep the elderly couple joke going...

Her: So when we meet at xxxx, are you going to be the one in a wheelchair or a cane?
Me: Neither, I'll bring my walker.
Her: Ooh sexy!
Me: You bringing your heels, right?
Her: I'll wear my orthopedic shoes so I can keep up with your walker.
Me: Even sexier!
Her: Oh man we are going to look so HOT tonight!
Me: Yes, get ready!

We meet up, and as soon we hug, I kiss her on the cheek. I am realizing that even a simple but ballsy move of kissing her on the cheek in the beginning of the date is VERY powerful and is extremely critical to setting the tone for the entire date. I cannot overstate this. It's just like a football game where the first few plays set the tone for the rest of the game. The last 3 times I did this, it resulted in 2 bangs and 1 heavy makeout. Could've easily been 3 for 3 if not for a strange case of strong LMR.

I order wines for us (I always ask whether they prefer red or white, and choose accordingly). We sit at the bar for half an hour and talk, laugh, and drink. Then I do a "mini venue change" and move us to a booth in another room of the bar. We sit down, and I ask her if she's comfortable. She says yes, and I get us another round of wine.

As for the conversation, basically what I did was before the date, I mentally make a list of topics to cover for our date. It's a mistake to rehearse actual conversations because that will come off as too scripted. Just brief bullet points in my head. Each topic in my mental list is designed to accomplish the following:

- Laughter. It is just as powerful, if not more, than alcohol as a date lubricant.

- DHV. Examples: travel, knowledge about relationships, etc

- Comfort. Showing her pictures of my cute young nieces (one with me in a tickle fight with them, and another showing my niece trying to put my oversized jacket on) - oh my, you guys, girls EAT that shit up!

- Sexual appeal. Light kino that gradually escalates over time... talk about salsa dancing... belly dancing, and how I love women who know how to express their feminine appeal and that it's so exciting. Talk about how I'm a very visual person with a discerning appreciation for beauty (while looking her up and down). Nothing overt here! It's all generating a covert undercurrent of sexual appeal.

Here, I am following Tuth's first date bang recipe. Except I kissed her at the wine bar. There were a couple of "awkward silences" with a very strong undercurrent of attraction, and I felt it would have been a mistake to NOT go for it. So I put my wine glass on the table, took her wine glass out of her hand, and set it on the table. Then I stroke her hair around her ear as I move in, and kiss her on the lips. No tongue at first, and then as she gets into it, we gradually get into tongue-ing.

I was a little worried that, because of the kiss, I will run into resistance when I try to take her back to my place. But I went for it anyway.

Me: "Another glass of wine ?" -- said as a mixed question and statement... as if you're looking up at dark clouds on the horizon and say "it's about to rain (?)"
Her: "Yes please"
Me: "My place."

To my surprise, she said yes and didn't make a fuss at all. She goes to the bathroom as I close my tab, and we go to my place. 5 minutes later, the clothes come off, and we bang. I actually was slow to get it up, so I spent that time eating her out as I play with her tits. Also finger banged her, and then she gave me a BJ and deepthroated me. That got me hard enough, so I had her take me in on top. Then I flip her and I fuck her missionary. Then I flip her and do her doggie and I cum on her ass. These No-Fap guys are onto something... I hadn't fapped in a week and I was surprised how much cum there was!

TL;DR - the keys are:
- Be funny, laugh, and don't take things too seriously

- Set the tone at the beginning of the date, unlike other guys who wait to kiss at the end. I do, however, go for the cheek at the beginning.

- Lead. Lead. LEAD.

- Escalate. Escalate. ESCALATE.

- Most important key for inner game: Unlock the primal predator in you. Societal forces and feminism serve to put your primal predator in a cage, trapped. Learn to unlock that cage within yourself, and make no apologies for your primal desire for the opposite sex.

^ This reminds me of one episode of Orange is the New Black, where the main female character offers a black male inmate a BJ in exchange for something she wants in return. The black dude slaps her hand down and says "No, don't! I'm a predator! It's no fun when you offer."

Now today is only ME and House of Cards. Happy hunting!

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^ Nice tips!

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Banged a girl at a club in the light control room closet. Chinese.
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+1 OKC woman in her early 40's. Her pics showed her as having a cute smile and she seemed to be super cool in her text messages. She's a nurse (I know) and works crazy hours and is going to school for her nurse practitioner certification so she's not interested in traditional dating. Her OKC questions were off the charts sexual and I planted the seed that I make a pretty good martini. We met for Starbucks early this afternoon 2 mins from my apartment.

When I saw her she was realistically a mid 5 at best but still had the cute smile. I'm suspecting she was a nice 7 in her early years but that ship has long since sailed. We sat at a table outside and chatted for maybe 30 mins and I'm laying the touching on thick. Touching her arm, leg, shoulder and soon our knees were constantly touching. When our drinks got low I asked (more of a statement) ready for that martini? and she stood up while saying "yes!"

Once back at my place she only got about 4 sips of her martini in before I was escalating the living shit out of her. We quickly moved into my bedroom and there was no LMR. Again, not all that hot but very sexual personality and great skills. Popped twice in her pussy and once in her mouth.

Now I have another OKC drink date for tonight in 2 hours. Sipping strong coffee as I type this. No rest for the wicked...
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+1 blowjob.

POF, same day open, got number, talked her into a zero date situation. Had some lmr, told me "we're not having sex." Game on.

Have a couple beers, lead her to the bedroom, get her naked, finger banging and still she won't, but she gobbled it up and swallowed like a good girl.

Will get probably get bang next time.
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^ Blowjobs don't count bro.
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+1 OKC Chinese girl who was born in Shanghai, and came to America aged 5. Face wise a 5, body wise 6.5. 2nd meet bang

We spoke on the phone before we ever met, and she said she really wanted to meet because I made her laugh. I wanted her to meet at my place, but she felt I was being a bit too forward so for the 1st meet we went for a drink (on a Friday) and at the end I kissed her for about 5 seconds, she said she too shy to kiss in public.

For the next couple of days she kept on texting that she really wants to meet again, and where I’m taking her out for dinner. I said I’ll think of a place. Then I told her to come to my place, and I’ll take her somewhere.

2nd meet, she comes straight to my apartment (the next Friday). She walks in, takes her shoes off, give me a big hug and kisses me on the neck, like she was really happy to see me.

We make out for a bit, and she asks me, “So where are we gonna eat?” I say, “let’s do this first”…we carry on making out, and we go to the bedroom.

We start fooling around and I have her straddling me, with her tights on. I get her 34C tits out (she was shocked when I correctly estimated the measurements. She found it funny when I explained that the reason I guessed correctly was because I am a “connoisseur”), and gets really horny when I lick them.

Her: ”We’re not gonna go out to eat, are we? You were never gonna take me out to eat were you?”
Me: “Of course not, why do you think I told you come to my place?!”

I start licking her on her neck under her ear and she get’s really horny. I tell her I want to go inside her, she says she can’t, it’s her period and it will get messy. I told her it’s OK and that I’ll cover my bed with a towel.

I bang her wrapped up and it’s a bit of a turn because she says she’s in pain because of my size, but she likes the way it feels.

Post bang, she then says she want to have kids with an Indian guy, and with an Indian surname. This sets off red flags in my head...

Me: “I can’t ever be with you long term, you seem nice, but I’ll be honest with you, if I ever got into a serious relationship I guarantee that I will cheat on you”.
Her: “So you’re like that…you seem like you’ve been with lot of types of women, I bet you’ve been with women from all over the world? Haven’t you? I bet it’s your dream to sleep with women from everywhere”
Me: “Of course, I’m a man. I want as many women as possible. I call it getting a flag, when I sleep with a foreign woman. I’m trying to go around the world, but I keep on getting stuck in China!”

I then bang her again.

At the end of the evening, she says, “so are you gonna take me out to eat next time we meet?”… I say “Maybe…”
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+1 , plus new Belgian flag. (greek-belgian)
I'm not too proud of this one, she had elegantly well-filled deep cleavage, sultry lips and waivy blonde hair, and I was on nofap for 40 days.
After my balls drained in a spectacular fashion, I was left with a kinda chubby girl with big tits and a pinkie that stinked of poo the whole next day.
I can do better than this. I blame nofap.
Hey, at least I got my flag.
03-03-2015 09:14 AM
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Just brought a girl to my place, +1, no LMR at all.

At the end, I asked her to make me a sandwich (with a humoristic tone), and guess what, SHE MADE ME A SANDWICH!

Definitely would be a keeper, but her face is a 6.5, which is acceptable, but not perfect.

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+1

23 years old Russian, 8 of off Tinder. very cute face, sultry lips, amazing body.

Texted for couple of days, met her at a cozy bar, had some drinks, good conversations with lots of laugh and then I took her to my place.

Had strong LMR all night, she gave me different lame excuses (that she doesn't like sex, that she had period and we just met for the first time etc) I told her she could leave but then she pretended to fall asleep on the couch suddenly. Took her to my bed, gave her a sleeveless t-shirt of mine, kept pushing for shag.

The next day, when we woke up back to business, we started kissing and I finally got her horny.

This lead to continuous 1,5 day amazing sex, ordering pizza, watching movies and shagging. She had crazy orgasms but had a lot of pain in her belly afterwards apparently due to deep penetration. She kept straddling on me after sex playing with my dong. Told me that she had no sex in 1 year and still recovering from a 4-years relationship.

Left my place the next morning, she sent 3 texts in the middle of the night.

-hi
-how are you
-do you miss me?

in return i replied: i will show you when we meet.

Then she wanted to come at night after work, spend the night and leave in the morning. Well, I had to cancel due to some last minute stuff i had to take care of.

Would be a keeper if it was not mostly sex involved. Still texting now and then..
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^ You have an 8 off Tinder you had amazing sex with. Is a keeper except that there was alot of sex?

Why does this not add up.

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(03-04-2015 05:42 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ You have an 8 off Tinder you had amazing sex with. Is a keeper except that there was alot of sex?

Why does this not add up.

Might be he thinks a girl that's a ONS isn't worth a LTR in his books ?

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Good instincts. Pain from sex, faking falling asleep, do you miss me after first date = possible borderline chick
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(03-04-2015 05:42 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ You have an 8 off Tinder you had amazing sex with. Is a keeper except that there was alot of sex?

Why does this not add up.

Just my 2 cents. I would run like hell: Russian girl who hasn't sex in a year is a beast and there is a 99% chance that she's a LEVEL 5 clinger. She will suffocate you.
03-05-2015 03:28 AM
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After 4 dates with a girl that I initially didn't expect to bang, I got the notch. I consider her LTR material, especially since I dumped my jealous girlfriend.

Positive points:

- I'm 23 and she is 28. I see this as a positive because I don't have to deal with schoolgirls without money and with baby mentality. Thai girls grow up slower.
- She is a 8/10 in my book.
- Her parents are still together after all those years. Traditional often means less hassle.
- Her father left for a few years and her mom stayed faithful during all that time, and daughters usually become like their mothers.
- She was a virgin. I see this as positive because, for a potential LTR, she will "bond" more easily, in exchange for a few coaching sessions from me.
- She pays on dates.
- She has a university degree.

Negative points:

- Her house is ugly and is on the side of a main road. Fortunately I have mine that looks better.
- Her parents are very old (56 and 60).

If any players have some thoughts on that, just post it.

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+1

*+5 on my 2015 count.

37 year old, 200cc brand new breast, athletic, solid 8. Met her at a club 2 weeks ago, solid ROOSHV text message guide + FISTO´S 1st date bang where key.

*Funny comment on the side: Since she just got surgery she could not lift her arms so I had to fuck her missionary and very slow (Not my cup of tea) anyway, a notch is a notch.

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+1, french flag

The first girl I gamed using the knowledge from the Bang and this forum. Thanks for the good work.

She was a solid 7, about 5'7'', very skinny, small boobs, nice butt, french.

I met her via my social circle at some friends birthday party where I went with my LTR. Asked her for her number under the fake pretense of her teaching me german (which she speaks very well for a french) before we left.

A couple days later took her to a bar and pretty much ran the one date bang recipe.

Made fun of her and the french stereotypes which really helped with the vibe. Told her to put away her phone (she was scared to check it even when i went to the restroom) and made her buy drinks - the "first round on me" method. Escalated the physical contact. After third drink we changed venue to a club nearby that was half empty. By that time I could tell just by her look that she is DTF. We had one drink and decided to go to her place.

She said that her BF is out of town (now i do not think that he exists) which I ignored. Undressed, banged three times, came into her mouth. Zero LMR. Then I made a big mistake by not staying longer - I just went home, no damage control. Didnt want to meet her flatmate or the virtual BF.

Texted her in 2 days, no response. After a week I tried it again with a simple "whats up", no response. Nexted.
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41yo half Filipino/white MILF (actually GILF lol). I originally met her on OKC back in Nov. and we got as far as my bed, I ate her pussy but just couldn't get past her LMR. We're both really into photography and I had setup a second date for us to go take photos and she cancelled due to a "death in the family". I could never get her out again in spite of multiple restart texts. I figured she was dead in the water.

Fast forward to earlier this week. I've been on a little bit of a roll and decided to try my luck and send her a restart text of sending her a photo that I took with my new camera. The bait worked and we began texting back and forth. I teased her about disappearing and she teased back "why don't you try asking me out again?" which I did and we set a date to meet at a restaurant/bar last night.

When she arrived she looked great and I greeted her with a warm hug and found a table in the bar where I was able to at a 45 degree angle to her so I could easily touch her. She's an amazing artist who does painting, drawing and photography so I had her show me photos of her work on her phone, while I would touch her arms, hands, and legs while complimenting on how talented she was.

We sat and talked for two hours and during that time I would casually bring up my new photo portfolio back home and wanting her to see my new camera. The first two times the bait seemed to not hook. Finally when we were done with drinks and the fries that we shared (I know, apps! Oh the humanity Angel) I took care of the bill and I said, come on let's go I'm making you a drink and you have to see my photos. She agreed without any resistance and she followed me back to my place ten minutes away.

Once back at my place I put on Pandora (Maroon 5 channel every time. All women seem to like it and it's generic enough to not compete for their attention with me) and made her a boxcar drink (she had two at the restaurant). I let her play with my new camera while I made drinks and we then sat down on my love seat where I handed her my ipad to look at photos.

About 10 minutes into looking at photos I do my signature move of gently taking my hand and turning her chin to me where I give her a kiss. She briefly pauses and says "I'm getting over a cold, you'll get sick". "Pfft, I don't care it's fine" and I softly kissed her again. Things escalated into a gentle but brief makeout and then she pulled away and looked at a few more photos. I resumed talking like nothing had happened and about 5 minutes later I resumed the makeout, this time moving to her neck, upper chest and collarbone. She began moaning and her body tensing up. She pulled away again and said "my throat is dry, can I get some water?" I took her by the hand and led her to the kitchen and got her some water.

After a couple of minutes of idle chit chat I then went back to the making out while we're standing in the kitchen. I started to lead her to my bedroom and she did the standard, stick out her butt while stretching both arms out in front of her while holding my hand move that girls always do when resisting. "No, I'm not ready for that..." "Ok, no problem, come here" More making out. Then while we're standing near the bar area of my kitchen I slide my hand down the back of her pants and sure enough, she's soaking wet and I begin to finger her pussy from behind. She's starting to really scream and get into it. I unbutton my pants and pull my cock out and she begins jerking me off. I push her pants down and try to turn her around so she's against my bar but she pushes me away again saying she wants to "take things slowly" Dodgy

I tell her to just bend over and I want to eat her pussy which she happily obliges to. For some reason eating a woman out from behind drives me absolutely wild. After a few minutes of that I tell her to lay down on the floor and I resume eating her while she's on her back. Through this I would make attempts to fuck her but each time she would physically push me away so I would step back.

This back and forth went on for about 20 minutes and finally she said "I'm a grandma, I don't want to get pregnant again" (I almost laughed because she seriously looks about 30) and I said "should I get a condom?" which she never really answered. I then said "I think a condom is smart, you know just for the rubbing" (Thank you Roosh!!) and I pulled the condom out of my jeans pocket on the floor next to me. (Side note: ALWAYS keep a condom in your pants pocket if you're going on a date. Even if you know you're coming back to your place, have it anyway so it's always in arm's reach!) I put the condom on and rubbed the head of my cock on her pussy and slid it in. And that's all she wrote....

I'm particularly proud of this notch because 1. She's a really cool person that I can see having her as a regular and she's not annoying to hang out with. 2. She was a total dead lead that I brought back from the dead. And 3. I was able to push through lots of LMR and overcome her objections.
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