Post: #26

(04-05-2012 08:12 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Sorry guys if I write sometimes incomprehensible things in English but a guy strangled me for two to five minutes with sleep lock on Sunday night so that his comrade could rob me.Since then I cannot speak as before my voice has changed and I have severe sore throat.I am also very irritable and cannot think so fast so I suppose the quality of my posts will decline for a while.

You ok? Where did that happen?

Post: #27

I hope you're doing better Greek Kamaki. Stay safe.


I had a date yesterday with an 18 yo girl. Not super cute(a little bit too much weight) but very friendly and I felt comfortable with her.

She agreed to meet today at 3...but then she didn't meet me, or even inform me she couldn't come. Playing games, I think.
I'll ignore her for a few days and try again later.

I've got 3 more phone numbers from Mamba today. Its still early..so I think I can get another 3-4 and have dates for tomorrow evening and Sunday.

I might try going to the disco as well, but it seems many girls don't go there (too expensive).
I might try day game as well.

Post: #28

Dates do not matter.Killing mood is what matters.Collecting phone numbers and trying one's luck is useless.

Post: #29

(04-06-2012 11:49 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Dates do not matter.Killing mood is what matters.Collecting phone numbers and trying one's luck is useless.

I dunno. Things are going poorly for me here.

I got a girls number on Mamba, I called and set a meeting at 6 pm. She cancelled.

Another girl I met up with wasn't attractive and she was quite sad( 19 yo, just got divorced)

I think I might try a marriage agency after all... (only half joking)

Post: #30

(04-07-2012 07:34 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

(04-06-2012 11:49 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Dates do not matter.Killing mood is what matters.Collecting phone numbers and trying one's luck is useless.

I dunno. Things are going poorly for me here.

I got a girls number on Mamba, I called and set a meeting at 6 pm. She cancelled.

Another girl I met up with wasn't attractive and she was quite sad( 19 yo, just got divorced)

I think I might try a marriage agency after all... (only half joking)

Well, got a date in 2 hours with yet another a cute 18 year old. We'll see how it goes

I think I figured out what I was doing wrong....My profile was too complex! Simple is better

Post: #31

Bad date, girl was totally not my type.

She had really droopy eyebrows but this didn't show in her online pics.
Super hot otherwise.., but the eyes were weird..like she was asleep.
Didn't like the personality either- she's a singer. Doesn't match my logical nature.

Oh well. I paid for coffee for her and her friend ($1 each)..thats it.
I don't know what Greek Kamaki is talking about...but where I'm at, girls don't require or expect presents. Perhaps, its because I approach them as a fellow Slav(I say I'm from Poland), I'm their age, and I speak Russian fluently. Its not until we meet in person do they understand that I'm a foreigner. In fact, now that I've removed the fact that I'm a foreigner from my profile..I get so many more responses.

Girls do require that you pay for everything...but this usually includes 2-3 dollars for desert (ice cream/cake).. and coffee...thats it.

I should be escalating more or doing better at conversation...I dunno.
I'm going to try giving some English lessons at the university, maybe that will help me meet more girls.

Post: #32

You really do a wrong type of approach.Just write what you tell and how they reply and I will tell you how to proceed.I am a bit dizzy at the moment(after this incident on Sunday) but I will try to write as good as I can.

Post: #33

(04-07-2012 01:09 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  You really do a wrong type of approach.Just write what you tell and how they reply and I will tell you how to proceed.I am a bit dizzy at the moment(after this incident on Sunday) but I will try to write as good as I can.

OK, I get a phone number from a girl on Mamba.

Here is how I do it:
(I write it all in Russian)

Me
Hi, how are you?

Girl
Hello, normal, and you?)

Me
Good

Anything interesting going on with you?

Girl
Now, no, stay at home because of weather.and you?

Me
I was in a small town in Poland not so long ago. There was a castle high on a hill with beautiful views over the river and the city.

Do you like traveling? Where have already had occasion to visit?

Girl
I love, but few have been ...

Me
I want to go to Istanbul and China someday.
I think they have good food and the weather

Girl
I'll answer later, still a little busy.

Girl
I would like to go everywhere =) but now the dream-Germany, because I teach German, I know little of their culture and everything is very t.d. I'd like to personally verify this.

Me
interesting
What music do you like to listen?

Girl
No particular style, listen to what I like)

Me
I also like that. Sometimes pop, sometimes classic ...
Do you like to dance?

Girl
yes)

Me
We can meet in a cafe for tea and chat more, another day)
Good?

Girl
Yes, good)

Me
Give your phone number, I'll call you tomorrow

Girl
+8424828428

Me
Well, tomorrow I'll call.
Nice to talk to you)

Girl
Likewise)) you rarely seen a normal, adequate human on here =)

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Ok, so its just a normal chat. Very typical.

The phone number was real and she agreed to meet, but then cancelled. She was polite enough to let me know she couldn't come. I'll try again tomorrow.

I've had very similar conversations with girls who actually meet me.




DURING the DATE:
We order tea and desert (1 dollar for tea, 1.5 to 2 dollars desert). I tell them to pick what they want.
This is in an average cafe in the center of town. Most of the other customers are my age (early 20s).

We talk...I should be escalating physically, yes?
How do I do this? (where do I start...how to proceed)

Post: #34

Since she mentioned she studies German and is interested in Germany you should:
1.Speak German with her
2.Speak about German culture at least classical music,German literature,philosophy etc.Slavic women have knowledge sometimes in depth
3.Talk about slavic German issues and general relations and common views
4.Talk about German art,German cities,German economy,mentality etc how is possible for a slavic person to adapt there etc.
5.Give a hint about German women appearance ugliness etc(the only neg about Germany)
6.Talk about the importance of law in society
7.Speak about your trips to Germany and impressions there
8.Talk about the education system in her country.Talk about university,duration of studies exams,prerequisites
9.Talk about teacher proffession if she likes kids etc.If she has real time experience is she could teach Russian etc
10.Talk about her personal status,family,views of her parents towards possible immigration.Experiences of her compatriots who live in Germany and generally the West.

My guess is that you did not touch any of the above topics so it is normal she soon lost interest.

Post: #35

(04-07-2012 02:36 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Since she mentioned she studies German and is interested in Germany you should:
1.Speak German with her
2.Speak about German culture at least classical music,German literature,philosophy etc.Slavic women have knowledge sometimes in depth
3.Talk about slavic German issues and general relations and common views
4.Talk about German art,German cities,German economy,mentality etc how is possible for a slavic person to adapt there etc.
5.Give a hint about German women appearance ugliness etc(the only neg about Germany)
6.Talk about the importance of law in society
7.Speak about your trips to Germany and impressions there
8.Talk about the education system in her country.Talk about university,duration of studies exams,prerequisites
9.Talk about teacher proffession if she likes kids etc.If she has real time experience is she could teach Russian etc
10.Talk about her personal status,family,views of her parents towards possible immigration.Experiences of her compatriots who live in Germany and generally the West.

My guess is that you did not touch any of the above topics so it is normal she soon lost interest.

Your right. I'm trying a more individualized approach now and doing better.
I look up some info on her topic using Wikipedia and talk about it.
Also, I found a much better site than Mamba. Mamba is overused, not many hot girls, and they have high defense shields.


I think I just got a date with a girl who has the best tits I've ever seen in my life...not too big, not too small..just perfect.)

Post: #36

As I see it you collect dates instead of bangs.You should raise your success rate to 50% at least.

Post: #37

(04-08-2012 06:49 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  As I see it you collect dates instead of bangs.You should raise your success rate to 50% at least.

I wish I could, but I have no idea about what I'm doing.

I just had what I thought was a good date with a girl, but I didn't escalate in the cinema...only a little touching. I have no idea or experience with how to do this properly and its a slow learning process.

So far, its been 1 week. I haven't kissed a girl yet, let alone a bang.

I finally found an apartment starting Monday, so I don't have to live in the shitty dorm anymore.
Also, I'm starting daygame on Monday and will try to give some English lessons.

Post: #38

In three days there I had already banged two girls and had more in row.You should be more decisive not chew your testes as we say here.

Post: #39

(04-08-2012 01:08 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  In three days there I had already banged two girls and had more in row.You should be more decisive not chew your testes as we say here.

What should I do? Just grab them?

I was going to go for the kiss at the end of the date today...but her bus arrived so suddenly that I didn't have the chance.

Next date will definitely involve some alcohol. I'll invite the girl for lunch or cocktails.
Perhaps this will help me loosen up enough to do something.

Post: #40

Alcohol is good.But what matters most is the general impression you make.Try to appear more like Conan the Barbarian ''come on doll I will tear you and throw you on the rocks'' something like that.These women smell what you are on about.You have to project the sexual side so they get their benefits as well.If you are not sexual where are they suppose to base their claims?

Post: #41

Think about it.If you do the same with everyone else you will get the same with everyone else.You need to do exactly the opposite of what you are supposed to do and catch them by surprise.Hopefully this attitude is not punished there as here in Balkans.

Post: #42

(04-09-2012 02:42 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Alcohol is good.But what matters most is the general impression you make.Try to appear more like Conan the Barbarian ''come on doll I will tear you and throw you on the rocks'' something like that.These women smell what you are on about.You have to project the sexual side so they get their benefits as well.If you are not sexual where are they suppose to base their claims?

This is true, Ukrainian girls can be very submissive, especially in the west. They want to be man-handled, molested and abused.

I always go for the kiss on a first date, even if its right at the end. If she refuses, I walk away and have forgotten about her in 30 seconds

Post: #43

(04-06-2012 11:15 AM)Spartan Wrote:  I had a date yesterday with an 18 yo girl. Not super cute(a little bit too much weight) but very friendly and I felt comfortable with her.

She agreed to meet today at 3...but then she didn't meet me, or even inform me she couldn't come. Playing games, I think.
I'll ignore her for a few days and try again later.

Don't waste your time. She is the one who flaked on you. The onus is on her to contact you. If she knows she can blow you off and you will still come back looking for another date you have played right into her hands. There are far more of her than there are of you. You can set yourself up with a dozen more girl like her with relative ease. She wont be able to line up a dozen foreigners like you that easy. If she is interested she will call you back. Don't play the game on her terms. Make her play on your terms.

Post: #44

(04-08-2012 02:13 PM)Spartan Wrote:  Next date will definitely involve some alcohol. I'll invite the girl for lunch or cocktails.

Not sure about the Ukranians but a couple of girls I met in St Petersburg when I was there really frowned upon drinking during the day. Nighttime no problems but daytime they looked at me like I was an alcoholic or something.

Post: #45

(04-11-2012 02:22 AM)LifeBeginsAt40 Wrote:  

(04-06-2012 11:15 AM)Spartan Wrote:  I had a date yesterday with an 18 yo girl. Not super cute(a little bit too much weight) but very friendly and I felt comfortable with her.

She agreed to meet today at 3...but then she didn't meet me, or even inform me she couldn't come. Playing games, I think.
I'll ignore her for a few days and try again later.

Don't waste your time. She is the one who flaked on you. The onus is on her to contact you. If she knows she can blow you off and you will still come back looking for another date you have played right into her hands. There are far more of her than there are of you. You can set yourself up with a dozen more girl like her with relative ease. She wont be able to line up a dozen foreigners like you that easy. If she is interested she will call you back. Don't play the game on her terms. Make her play on your terms.

Couldn't agree more.

If she stood you up then do not contact her, it will only make you seem weak. You have plenty of options.

I pretty much got stood up the other day, a girl was 22 minutes late and didn't contact me today she was running late. So I left, she then message me later saying she was actually there and was 15 mins late. She was not there.

No second chance for her, if a girls going to be that late she had better be a 9, she was a 7

Post: #46

In Ukraine no second chance is advisable.In other areas though yes.

Post: #47

(04-11-2012 02:29 AM)LifeBeginsAt40 Wrote:  

(04-08-2012 02:13 PM)Spartan Wrote:  Next date will definitely involve some alcohol. I'll invite the girl for lunch or cocktails.

Not sure about the Ukranians but a couple of girls I met in St Petersburg when I was there really frowned upon drinking during the day. Nighttime no problems but daytime they looked at me like I was an alcoholic or something.

I personally would not buy cocktails for a girl on a first date unless she was smoking hot. Too much investment, I would not even buy her lunch. If I'm looking to lubricate a girl i will go to a bar and find one already drunk
.

Post: #48

I ended up meeting again with the girl that blew me off last time.
I think she was just busy or maybe nervous about meeting last time.

This time, we were supposed to meet at 18:00, but she said she had classes till 21. I thought for sure this was over with...but I asked to meet at 21:30, it was worth a shot.

Surprisingly, she met me that evening. Right from the start I initiated some physical contact (hand holding) and we walked to the river where we ended up kissing.

Today we're meeting again and I'll try to invite her back to my place for a more intense makeout.
I've got some wine and chocolates ready, and we'll see how it goes.

Really friendly girl with a great personality. I think she's really inexperienced..by the way she kisses she seems to not have done it that often before (she's only 18).

Another interesting thing I've noticed, is that she puts up resistance when we're not together (eg. she'll blow me off, be late, want to meet at locations more convenient to her, etc.)...but in person she's really submissive. I need to make good use of that and escalate more tonite.

Post: #49

You spread confusion by not revealing your real location.What advice people give here applies to Ukraine.

Post: #50

(04-12-2012 03:06 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  You spread confusion by not revealing your real location.What advice people give here applies to Ukraine.

Not really, I'm in the FSU..thats the main thing, just a little further east.


Holy shit..I just checked mamba and the girl I have a meeting with sent me this message.
What the fuck!!!

Translated from Russian
The crazy farmer runs around the farm naked and rapes pigs. Sometimes he spent hours watching how chickens fuck, rolls the wheel of the farm and just enjoying life. When a pig gave birth to piglets sired by the farmer, he gets jealous of their father's zeal for the mother and eventually hangs them all. After that, he shows the dead piglets to the pig and kills her, then buries himself in the ground along with his beloved

I'm not sure if I translated this correctly...but I'm confused.
Is this a joke? Is it a funny story? What the hell... I like the way this girl thinks ) It reminds me of myself..random and crazy, haha