Post: #26

1. Ask members for advice.
2. Insult them when they give it.
3. Three day ban.

Post: #27

Encanto, it seems to me that you think you can get away with this one so if your gut feeling tells you that is a "safe" move go for it. As a fellow Latino who has lived in Medellin I would recommend not getting involve with any girl from the same barrio as your gf. If I were you I would not put that much value on a girl since it won't take you long before you realize you can upgrade...and in Medellin that thought crosses your mind every 10 seconds :-) Have fun and be safe...

Post: #28

(04-01-2012 09:31 AM)encanto Wrote:  I was wondering if any of you guys that have actually been to Medellin or other big cities in Colombia know how safe it'd be to live in a estrato 3 barrio in Medellin.

The barrio is controlled by an armed gang, which according to my girlfriend, is a good thing since they protect the residents from outside criminals. The gang does no harm to the people living in the barrio but it's been known to be violent to anyone who dares to steal, kill or do anything against the residents.

I'm Latin American and a native Spanish speaker. I plan to rent an apartment or home in that barrio just to be close to my girlfriend that lives there. She says I will not be in danger but even though I might look like any of the people in the barrio, I'm still a foreigner and don't know if that could be a problem.

One last thing, I don't trust her mother at all. She's quite cold, dishonest and cares only about money. I know she has a good relationship with the gang's leader who is said to be an ex-paramilitar. The guy has promised to protect her business which is located in the barrio.

I plan to let my GF stay overnight at my place. I don't know if that could cause problems with her mom. My GF has a TERRIBLE relationship with her. I'm afraid I won't be able to intervene in my GF's defense when there is a problem, I wouldn't want to piss off her mom (remember she's friends with the gang's leader).

Any advice? Would it be safe to live in this barrio?

I'm sorry, not sure how I got so confused in this matter.

Post: #29

(04-02-2012 08:46 AM)encanto Wrote:  

(04-02-2012 07:43 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  no it hasn't happened to me actually. but u r right i made an 'absurd' assumption...just don't know too many barrio girls that aren't being supported by their novios. Your barrio girl is obviously different and actually has money....my bad. Making an assumption that a colombian girl living in a Medellin barrio run by a gang has money yes that's absurd.

u r right though if u are latin american and speak fluent spanish u probably won't have a problem.

Sorry but I still find your assumption quite absurd. I am sure many people on this forum are aware that you don't need any money to get girls if you got game.

While I am not familiar with Roosh's methods, I have developed my own based mostly on Ross Jeffries stuff and my own experience.

Women want to experience things that most guys think can only get them with money and looks. However, if you know what you're doing you can satisfy their needs even with no money and just average looks.

It's been said many times on this forum that Colombian women are stupid because they will choose their ugly poor barrio guy over a rich foreigner. I believe they're not stupid, they go with the guy that gives them what they want.

The gringo may be rich and better looking but that's all he has going on for him, and that's not enough. I am not saying they will always choose the local over the gringo.

I'm just saying they will choose the best guy over the loser and many times the loser is a gringo whose money can't get him to score in the first world and he decides to go to the third world to see if he has a better chance.

This is different from being a gringo like Roosh and others here that think we deserve more than feminazi women and that's why we decide to go where the best women in the world are.

yes mate i can see u have never been to Medellin and u have no idea how it works with barrio girls... i can't wait to see how long she supports you financially for because of your tight game jejeje

talk about throwing lambs to the wolves.

Post: #30

You don't need money to get laid. Thats true but it sure does help and I will continue to spend like I'm dieing tomorrow and enjoying my life rather than focus on "game" and seeing how little i can spend on a girl and still get the bang. The mathematics for many are not important. For one guy spending 10 dollars on a girl to get a lay may leave a sour taste in his mouth. But for others than number could be 1000, 10,000 etc. It's all a function of where you are in your life at any given time. But yea, I gotta say even having not been to Medellin after watch a documentary filmed in a strata 1 or 2 barrio a while back I sure as hell wouldn't want to be living in a strata 3 barrio but to each their own.

Post: #31

Name of film?

Post: #32

I honestly can't rememeber, maybe someone else knows it. I will ask my friend whom also watched it when I next see him.

Post: #33

(04-03-2012 01:28 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  You don't need money to get laid. Thats true but it sure does help and I will continue to spend like I'm dieing tomorrow and enjoying my life rather than focus on "game" and seeing how little i can spend on a girl and still get the bang. The mathematics for many are not important. For one guy spending 10 dollars on a girl to get a lay may leave a sour taste in his mouth. But for others than number could be 1000, 10,000 etc. It's all a function of where you are in your life at any given time. But yea, I gotta say even having not been to Medellin after watch a documentary filmed in a strata 1 or 2 barrio a while back I sure as hell wouldn't want to be living in a strata 3 barrio but to each their own.

correct, but thats not what im saying...what i am saying is if you are moving to medellin to be with your barrio girl (who by the way lives there becuase she has no money) you are supporting her...paying for everything... THATS HOW IT WORKS THERE.

Post: #34

Of course gary. I agree with you on that. If your dating a barrio girl or poor girl you're going to have to support her. You can't expect them to pay for you two to dine at a nice restaurant. I have many girlfriends but my main one is poor. I would never ask her to pay for anything. She does occasionally buy something really small for me. But what can I expect from someone making less than 100 dollars per month. It doesn't make you any less of a man to pay for everything when with a girl who lives in poverty. On the contrary, I'd say you're a bozo if you're trying to get a girl living in poverty to use her meager funds on you.

If you're considering that maybe the poster is not in a financial situation to be supporting a barrio girl...that is quite possible. I mean to be honest I think it would be a hell of a lot of fun to live in strata 3. But also very dangerous. I honestly get the appeal of living on the edge and/or helping out / saving a girl in poverty but there comes a point where the risk/reward ratio is just too much to go through with it. This to me appears to be one of those cases.

If the poster goes through with this I would be extremely curious to hear about his experiences.

Post: #35

I lived in a slum in Cebu City, Philippines, once. No windows in my unpainted cinder block hovel. Had to cut a tree down inside the first floor when I moved in with my GF and took it over from her sister. I cleaned it up and painted it, hung mosquito netting over the windows as I couldn't afford glass, put out poison to kill the family of rats, and made it a colorful, tidy little love-hovel.

We alternated between that place and our $75/month love hovel in Moalboal. Cement floor in that one, no glass on windows there either - but at least those had bamboo slat.

I used to walk around alone at night in Cebu, and never felt any fear. Mind you there are parts of Cebu even the locals are afraid to go - some areas closer to the warf. But the shanty towns where you hear the sounds of children crying for lack of rice seemed perfectly safe.

Strange as it may seem, people enjoy struggling up from low circumstances. My mother looks back with fond nostalgia on her poorest times. The times of poverty I've had didn't seem to lower quality of life much - except for those periods where I ran out of rent money and the stress turned onto a constant low level burning of fear in the nerves. But general hand-to-mouth poverty and being surrounded by it was sometimes a high quality life - much better than most have. Cause I was passionately fucking a hottie-in-love (or two or three) for several hours a day.

Post: #36

(04-04-2012 05:11 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  what i am saying is if you are moving to medellin to be with your barrio girl (who by the way lives there becuase she has no money) you are supporting her...paying for everything... THATS HOW IT WORKS THERE.

I think the naysayers somewhat forget that in poorer areas, it's okay to highlight your ability to provide as a DHV. The reason provider game doesn't work in the developed world is because first world women, generally, are not living on the edge.

Post: #37

(04-04-2012 09:39 PM)MSW2007 Wrote:  

(04-04-2012 05:11 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  what i am saying is if you are moving to medellin to be with your barrio girl (who by the way lives there becuase she has no money) you are supporting her...paying for everything... THATS HOW IT WORKS THERE.

I think the naysayers somewhat forget that in poorer areas, it's okay to highlight your ability to provide as a DHV. The reason provider game doesn't work in the developed world is because first world women, generally, are not living on the edge.

Yes, provider game has an undeserved bad rep. First, there are the purists who view game as a challenge and want to use only personality as their tool to win the trophy, then there are the poor PUAs who think those with other advantages are somehow cheating and not using "real" game, then there are those who realize that supplicating lowers attraction and confuse that with paying for stuff lowering attraction. Then as you said, unless the income differential is substantial, money doesn't make as much difference in developed countries.

But a big income difference used to advantage is not supplicating, is a dhv, and is attractive.

Some who are poor and who rely on other aspects of attraction would naturally like to cock-block and amog the guys who ALSO use money in their game, when instead they could be happy for the fact that there is one more useful tool in their arsenal they could develop if they ever so wanted to.

Post: #38

Frankly, probably because I'm Latin American and older than most of you, I have absolutely no problem with PAYING for dinner or wine, a trip to parque arvi, etc. Each to his own but for me that's part of being a gentleman and/or macho. I would never let a girl pay, even if she's got more money than me.

When you know that girl is with you because of your inner qualities, game, or whatever, spending money on fun activities with her won't make you a loser.

Now, if the girl demands money for her personal expenses or wants you to provide her with a high standard of living (her own apartment, car, etc.) then that makes you a loser.

Definitely, I won't be buying her a car nor does she want one. I will be living in her barrio rather than in EL POBLADO like most gringos do (I wonder why they complain Colombian women are materialistic). I don't have as much money as you guys do and she knows it. She does not care. I don't seem to attract materialistic women because I have very little money.

I am not saying that I'm better than anyone here, I just know how to attract women in spite of my looks and lack of money. I definitely don't feel fortunate though, I wish I had more money so that I could travel more often. I am working on that area.

Post: #39

(04-05-2012 04:33 PM)xsplat Wrote:  But a big income difference used to advantage is not supplicating, is a dhv, and is attractive.

That's very true!