Post: #1

I was at a house party and this girl came in, I saw she had two bottles of soda and a small bit of jack. So I negged her with 'I don't think that's going to be enough', I got her to guess where I was from and I would always joke and say alright I counted my beer so if any are gone I'm looking for you. She would say you'd better watch out or some lame thing like that and I'd respond with your paying me back if you do. I made her move her jacket first thing too cos it was on top of mine. She had a boyfriend but he was a huge beta I think. I also said something stupid about my wingman by saying, 'he's a dangerous guy' as a joke and she knew him so she laughed about it but it didn't phase me none.

I tried using Roosh's line 'you look like your having the most of fun out of anyone here', 'oh really', 'no I was being sarcastic'. I tried this several times but it seemed to just piss them off instead. I also tried the 'oh that's a nice outfit, I've seen a lot of girls wearing that' but again they just got pissy with me for no reason.

The fat girls there were also being huge dicks to everyone and cockblocking left and right. I wasn't even trying to pick up one of them and I said, 'is this where the party's at' referring to how everyone moved to the kitchen, like I would say to any of the guys there. She just looked at me like I was retarded and said 'yea sure'. Which pissed me off. I just left immediately(the kitchen that is), why should I take any of that shit?

For full disclosure none of the girls there was even a solid 8 except one of them. She was getting bitchy with me, so when she told me she just graduated I said 'oh really was it from junior high' and didn't talk to her after that.

I tried using the opinion opener used by Neil Strauss(who lies more) but I got totally ignored.

The rest of the guys there were all buff but seemed shy, and those that weren't buff were just shy. So it didn't seem like I had any competition, especially since I had good body language going and was talking to everyone at the party first before girls. I wasn't the best looking guy there, but I felt like I was better than most of them so I was just vexed and purplexed by what happened tonight.

I was really loaded tonight, maybe that explains it?

So my question is what should I have done better to score, or is it just a case of girls being too bitchy.

P.S. all the guys there even the ones I didn't know where very friendly and opening to meeting me, a new guy. Why do girls have to put up a front?

Post: #2

Welcome to the forum. It's good that you're practicing different methods. It'll take some time for ya to learn the style that suits you best. Remember, it's the way you say certain stuff. All about how you project yourself and how you express body language. This all takes time and practice.
Sorry for the concise reply maybe tomorrow when I'm a little more sober I can expand.

Post: #3

I would do the same thing at a couple of other social settings first; sometimes it's simply bad luck.

Post: #4

She had a boyfriend and your game wasn't quite tight enough. Keep at it, but try to move away from canned lines... especially Neil Strauss stuff. Sounds like you're overthinking some of this.

Post: #5

Remember, some of those openers you mention are designed to hook the attention of complete strangers on the street, lost in their own thoughts and agenda at that moment.

That same opener would be overkill at a relaxed house party.

First things first. Consider everyone at the party as a mutual friend of the hosts. In that setting, it's no drama to just walk up and chat.

A lot depends on the vibe of the party at that moment. Maybe dial back the attitude a bit.

One easy, generic line for a house party: "Hi, I haven't met you yet. What's your name?".

Ask where they fit in to the party. Who are they here with, who do they know? Make a few wisecracks about the hosts, maybe. You can use these same lines over and over again.

Be having a great time with your friends, so that other people want to share your vibe.

Post: #6

(04-01-2012 07:44 AM)Tigre Wrote:  Remember, some of those openers you mention are designed to hook the attention of complete strangers on the street, lost in their own thoughts and agenda at that moment.

That same opener would be overkill at a relaxed house party.

First things first. Consider everyone at the party as a mutual friend of the hosts. In that setting, it's no drama to just walk up and chat.

A lot depends on the vibe of the party at that moment. Maybe dial back the attitude a bit.

One easy, generic line for a house party: "Hi, I haven't met you yet. What's your name?".

Ask where they fit in to the party. Who are they here with, who do they know? Make a few wisecracks about the hosts, maybe. You can use these same lines over and over again.

Be having a great time with your friends, so that other people want to share your vibe.

This previous post pretty much sums up house party situation in general.

Again as Gmac pointed out, don't rely on lines you see from whatever PUA, even Neil Strauss.

For the kitchen situation, you don't know for sure that the girl was giving you "retarded" look, maybe the booze does that to her face lol, so basically in this situation i would do a combo of compliment/neg then immediately focus everyone's attention there on me, for e.g: "i didn't ger your name (to the girl who said "yea sure"), my name is..., no wonder everyone is here (kitchen), you look lovely tonight, but you seem mean, is she always like that to you guys? (ask people there in a joking way)"

Also stay in control when you drink, know your limit, women will smell it off of you and think that you're drunk=bad game.

Basically be yourself, have fun, don't think too much, cuz your brain is your only cockblocker.

Post: #7

Thanks for the replies guys. Next time I'm going to focus on getting a good vibe going with a bunch of people, I will probably try compliment/neg too, and be more relaxed. I'll quit the canned material too. I shouldn't have drank a lot, but my friend and I got there early so we were already drinking for an hour or so first. Next time I'm taking it slower on the beer.

I will report back with any success stories haha.

Post: #8

You're too heavy on the negs man. I think if there is anything I have picked up just starting out is that negs don't work as well as everyone says they do. I think for the most part, chicks are just flat out insulted. I've been trying just some plain jane openers and I get way better results. The line i have been using??

In a really cool and calm dead pan manner I will open with...

"Hey....did you go to the University of Florida?".... then they will say no..... then I will say..."wow.(with a bit shock on my face)...you look so familiar...I totally blew that one.....where'd you go to school then.??"

ANd then I will pivot of whatever school they went to with a slight neg of..."Wow....i blew that one....You look southern though.." and then I'll give them a compliment after the slight neg of "you look southern."

And I think i've opened every girl ive approached. Where i fall flat on my face is 3-5 minutes in the conversation. I get very question oriented which burns out the pick up.