Post: #1

I was wondering if I will become addicted to nicotine from smoking loose leaf tobacco in a joint mixed with hash. I have already smoked it twice with friends (around 5 inhales each time) and don't feel any different after. Is it risky to continue because I do not want to become addicted to nicotine.

Post: #2

(03-28-2012 03:02 PM)chairman Wrote:  I was wondering if I will become addicted to nicotine from smoking loose leaf tobacco in a joint mixed with hash. I have already smoked it twice with friends (around 5 inhales each time) and don't feel any different after. Is it risky to continue because I do not want to become addicted to nicotine.

I smoke American Spirits, which are 100% tobacco, no fillers or bullshit, and I've yet to experience the cigarette jones that most smokers describe. I'll go a week without a cig and feel absolutely fine, no jitters, no anger, nothing. I end up smoking again socially or out of stress.

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Post: #3

My belief when it comes to substances is that it's not a problem until you are doing it from the moment you wake up in the morning.

I doubt you will have any issues unless you start smoking cigarettes after the spliff.

Post: #4

(03-28-2012 06:55 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  My belief when it comes to substances is that it's not a problem until you are doing it from the moment you wake up in the morning.

I doubt you will have any issues unless you start smoking cigarettes after the spliff.

No I'm never going to smoke cigarette only loose leaf and I am going to stop when I get back to the US because I can easily get weed instead of hash.

Post: #5

Yeah, my cigarette smoking took two years to become a problem. I started with occasional weekend smokes and graduated (eventually) to half a pack a day. It was too much on no serious income, so now I only have maybe one or two cigs a day, since many of my friends smoke.

Post: #6

(03-28-2012 04:39 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 03:02 PM)chairman Wrote:  I was wondering if I will become addicted to nicotine from smoking loose leaf tobacco in a joint mixed with hash. I have already smoked it twice with friends (around 5 inhales each time) and don't feel any different after. Is it risky to continue because I do not want to become addicted to nicotine.

I smoke American Spirits, which are 100% tobacco, no fillers or bullshit, and I've yet to experience the cigarette jones that most smokers describe. I'll go a week without a cig and feel absolutely fine, no jitters, no anger, nothing. I end up smoking again socially or out of stress.

Natural tobacco still has nicotine, which is the main source of addiction in cigs. Playing baseball most of my life I knew a lot of guys who became addicted to dip, which is also pure tobacco. 2 of which ended up with throat cancer before they hit 30.


Maybe you have a really high tolerance?

Post: #7

(03-29-2012 12:25 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 04:39 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 03:02 PM)chairman Wrote:  I was wondering if I will become addicted to nicotine from smoking loose leaf tobacco in a joint mixed with hash. I have already smoked it twice with friends (around 5 inhales each time) and don't feel any different after. Is it risky to continue because I do not want to become addicted to nicotine.

I smoke American Spirits, which are 100% tobacco, no fillers or bullshit, and I've yet to experience the cigarette jones that most smokers describe. I'll go a week without a cig and feel absolutely fine, no jitters, no anger, nothing. I end up smoking again socially or out of stress.

Natural tobacco still has nicotine, which is the main source of addiction in cigs. Playing baseball most of my life I knew a lot of guys who became addicted to dip, which is also pure tobacco. 2 of which ended up with throat cancer before they hit 30.


Maybe you have a really high tolerance?

He probably doesn't smoke that often. Nicotine is more addictive than heroin. I've done both and I don't do heroin anymore.

Post: #8

(03-29-2012 01:19 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 12:25 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 04:39 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 03:02 PM)chairman Wrote:  I was wondering if I will become addicted to nicotine from smoking loose leaf tobacco in a joint mixed with hash. I have already smoked it twice with friends (around 5 inhales each time) and don't feel any different after. Is it risky to continue because I do not want to become addicted to nicotine.

I smoke American Spirits, which are 100% tobacco, no fillers or bullshit, and I've yet to experience the cigarette jones that most smokers describe. I'll go a week without a cig and feel absolutely fine, no jitters, no anger, nothing. I end up smoking again socially or out of stress.

Natural tobacco still has nicotine, which is the main source of addiction in cigs. Playing baseball most of my life I knew a lot of guys who became addicted to dip, which is also pure tobacco. 2 of which ended up with throat cancer before they hit 30.


Maybe you have a really high tolerance?

He probably doesn't smoke that often. Nicotine is more addictive than heroin. I've done both and I don't do heroin anymore.

Yeah I don't smoke much I have about 1/4 of a joint once a week and have done it like 5 times.

Post: #9

(03-29-2012 01:19 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 12:25 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 04:39 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 03:02 PM)chairman Wrote:  I was wondering if I will become addicted to nicotine from smoking loose leaf tobacco in a joint mixed with hash. I have already smoked it twice with friends (around 5 inhales each time) and don't feel any different after. Is it risky to continue because I do not want to become addicted to nicotine.

I smoke American Spirits, which are 100% tobacco, no fillers or bullshit, and I've yet to experience the cigarette jones that most smokers describe. I'll go a week without a cig and feel absolutely fine, no jitters, no anger, nothing. I end up smoking again socially or out of stress.

Natural tobacco still has nicotine, which is the main source of addiction in cigs. Playing baseball most of my life I knew a lot of guys who became addicted to dip, which is also pure tobacco. 2 of which ended up with throat cancer before they hit 30.


Maybe you have a really high tolerance?

He probably doesn't smoke that often. Nicotine is more addictive than heroin. I've done both and I don't do heroin anymore.

Would that inherently mean you cant smoke that often?

I've heard that claim before, that nicotine is more addictive then cocaine/heroine/hard drugs yet I see zero signs of addiction from smoking 100% tobacco. Compare that to people who are hooked and jonesing on Marlboro's after a month, and it makes me wonder.

I'm not a doctor and I'm just one case, nowhere near enough to say anything conclusively, but I think its worth considering that maybe tobacco isn't the culprit, or at the very least its got a much more wicked partner in crime.

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Post: #10

The difference between straight tobacco and cigarettes is that they make a freebase nicotine by soaking leaves in ammonia. The ammonia is evaporated leaving a form of nicotine that can be readily absorbed by the lungs.

Think of the difference between smoking straight cocaine and crack. You feel the former, but the latter gets your bell rung.

Post: #11

That's pretty interesting teh_skeeze. Are unfiltered camels also freebased nicotine?
I'll have to try out american spirits for a week or two before I quit again. Hope to do so for good this time around because I have to get in really good shape for my last season of college rugby.

Post: #12

If it's meant to be inhaled into the lungs, it probably has freebase nicotine in it. American Spirits advertise themselves as "additive free", but is nicotine in a more addictive form an additive?

As for smoking a different brand because it's "less addictive", don't do it. Since you are playing a sport that requires a high VO2 max, you don't want to pull any crap into your lungs. Your best bet is to quit.

Post: #13

just smoke weed

Post: #14

(04-05-2012 12:13 AM)the chef Wrote:  just smoke weed

i would but in france they only have hash and i smoke with other people so i have no real option especially since we don't have a bong to just smoke the hash

Post: #15

Actually, people get addicted to the very act of smoking more than the nicotine itself. Nicotine addiction is mild as far as they go, and get's kicked in 48 or so hours.

In any case, OP is fine.