From the Vladimir Poontang link (babe.net):

Quote:I felt validated as hell knowing every guy didn't care that I was clinically overweight. If anything, this just confirmed that as long as your face is beat for the gawds and your outfit comes correct, (some) guys will overlook weight and size altogether. Then again, I was way out of their league to begin with

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OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE. For REAL???

(04-23-2018 02:55 PM)joost Wrote:  From the Vladimir Poontang link (babe.net):

Quote:I felt validated as hell knowing every guy didn't care that I was clinically overweight. If anything, this just confirmed that as long as your face is beat for the gawds and your outfit comes correct, (some) guys will overlook weight and size altogether. Then again, I was way out of their league to begin with

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OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE. For REAL???

That stuck out to me the most. She wrote an article about how she was scraping Tinder for validation and attention about being fat then got the nerve to say she's out of somebody's league.

I'd say she has a lot of guts and nerve but with her surface area that's already a given.

Babe.net reads like satire its so fucking bad. I regret giving them a single click.

(04-23-2018 12:28 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  Are you still able to run numbers in FB searches, I can't seem to get it to work and cuckerberg said something about removing that feature as it was getting abused.

It still works on the Messenger app if the number is linked.

(04-23-2018 08:51 AM)questor70 Wrote:  I think women are generally clueless about keeping their online data private, assuming they even want to, as women these days tend to be such attention-whores.

This ability to do a pre-screen/info-scrape is maybe the only point of leverage men have in online dating.

They've always been attention whores...and actual whores.

It's just now they're given far more tools with which to attention whore (and just plain whore) coupled with the social backing from the culture to do each with zeal, respectively.

To your point about infoscraping online chicks as a screening measure...I have to say "meh" because it's pretty much a given they're going to be mentally unstable whores with left leaning politics if you're using online dating in the US.

(04-24-2018 01:24 AM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 08:51 AM)questor70 Wrote:  I think women are generally clueless about keeping their online data private, assuming they even want to, as women these days tend to be such attention-whores.

This ability to do a pre-screen/info-scrape is maybe the only point of leverage men have in online dating.

They've always been attention whores...and actual whores.

It's just now they're given far more tools with which to attention whore (and just plain whore) coupled with the social backing from the culture to do each with zeal, respectively.

To your point about infoscraping online chicks as a screening measure...I have to say "meh" because it's pretty much a given they're going to be mentally unstable whores with left leaning politics if you're using online dating in the US.

I definitely agree. I just like to run the digits through FB to get more pix.

Mess O

That does sound brutal, if it makes you feel better, this happens to every guy.

I was semi-SIFed a little while back. An ex-coworker/friend (good woman for sure), had a friend of a friend who wanted to meet me. I'm not very social media savvy, but I was shown her Instagram and 99% of her photos were selfies with lots of filters (I didn't know much about filters then. I do now). The few that weren't were not very promising, but at the time I didn't think much of it. Also in retrospect, I found it interesting that the woman wanted to confirm I was 'tall enough'.

I get to the bar after her and see her walking in. My thought was "oh crap". That woman was a good 30 pounds and five years older than her pics. I wandered the bar hoping that I saw the wrong person even though deep down I knew it was. I went up to her, said hello and thus it begun. I don't care if a woman isn't perfect, obviously, so long as she is proportional, especially if she has a pleasant personality. She did not. She was dumb, worked part time (not out of necessity but out of laziness) and I'm 99% sure she was on probation for shoplifting. Anyway, after a while she asked if I wanted to try a bar down the street. I initially said ok, but when we got outside I pulled the "I've had a long day...". She didn't like that, her mood turned sour. Thing is, I don't think it had anything to do with me, she was just one of those women who isn't capable of loving anyone but herself and her ego. Of course I was made out to be the bad guy, at least my friend who set us up (who had set me up with a few bangable women so she got a pass on this one) stuck up for me. Also, she apologized after meeting her in person at a party not too long after.

Anyway, I told this story to a few friends. Of course one of the women gave that lame quote "You know, men are scared their date will be fat. Women are scared that their date will kill them". I said "Yea, but there is at most 1/10th of one percent chance that any harm will come to you. There's a 50% chance an blind/internet date will be fat".

Perhaps I'm just more aware now, but I see a lot more aggressive overweight/obese women wearing the latest slutware (now it appears to be backless shirts with short shorts). And I'm a believer in live-and-let-live type of guy, but one can't trick or force the opposite sex to be attracted to you. And until the overweight, awkward men that I work with or know start beating them off with a stick, then women, obese or otherwise, can actually complain about how unfair life is.

(04-24-2018 11:51 AM)CRR Wrote:  Mess O

That does sound brutal, if it makes you feel better, this happens to every guy.

I was semi-SIFed a little while back. An ex-coworker/friend (good woman for sure), had a friend of a friend who wanted to meet me. I'm not very social media savvy, but I was shown her Instagram and 99% of her photos were selfies with lots of filters (I didn't know much about filters then. I do now). The few that weren't were not very promising, but at the time I didn't think much of it. Also in retrospect, I found it interesting that the woman wanted to confirm I was 'tall enough'.

I get to the bar after her and see her walking in. My thought was "oh crap". That woman was a good 30 pounds and five years older than her pics. I wandered the bar hoping that I saw the wrong person even though deep down I knew it was. I went up to her, said hello and thus it begun. I don't care if a woman isn't perfect, obviously, so long as she is proportional, especially if she has a pleasant personality. She did not. She was dumb, worked part time (not out of necessity but out of laziness) and I'm 99% sure she was on probation for shoplifting. Anyway, after a while she asked if I wanted to try a bar down the street. I initially said ok, but when we got outside I pulled the "I've had a long day...". She didn't like that, her mood turned sour. Thing is, I don't think it had anything to do with me, she was just one of those women who isn't capable of loving anyone but herself and her ego. Of course I was made out to be the bad guy, at least my friend who set us up (who had set me up with a few bangable women so she got a pass on this one) stuck up for me. Also, she apologized after meeting her in person at a party not too long after.

Anyway, I told this story to a few friends. Of course one of the women gave that lame quote "You know, men are scared their date will be fat. Women are scared that their date will kill them". I said "Yea, but there is at most 1/10th of one percent chance that any harm will come to you. There's a 50% chance an blind/internet date will be fat".

Perhaps I'm just more aware now, but I see a lot more aggressive overweight/obese women wearing the latest slutware (now it appears to be backless shirts with short shorts). And I'm a believer in live-and-let-live type of guy, but one can't trick or force the opposite sex to be attracted to you. And until the overweight, awkward men that I work with or know start beating them off with a stick, then women, obese or otherwise, can actually complain about how unfair life is.

What a stupid thing this woman said. Besides the statistical reality you pointed out, there is also the fact that obesity kills more women at a young age than men do.

According to this NBC story published in 2015: "Obesity kills far more Americans than we think it does, according to a controversial new study that suggests obesity accounts of about 18 percent of all deaths in the United States - three times previous estimates."

We can break that down further. The Center for Disease Control puts out a chart each year that lists the Top Ten killers of women. Murders by men don't factor in. What does?

Listed in the Top Ten are: Heart disease (22 percent!), cancer, stroke, diabetes, and kidney disease -- all of which can be brought on by obesity.

So, to sum this up: Little Debbie is more deadly to women than any Tom, Dick, or Harry. Tell that to your friend.

I would have said, "Then why aren't you afraid I will kill you for saying that?"

@CRR - Yeah, that chick had texted me beforehand, "how tall are you?", and I replied, "tall enough"

(04-24-2018 12:29 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 11:51 AM)CRR Wrote:  Mess O

That does sound brutal, if it makes you feel better, this happens to every guy.

I was semi-SIFed a little while back. An ex-coworker/friend (good woman for sure), had a friend of a friend who wanted to meet me. I'm not very social media savvy, but I was shown her Instagram and 99% of her photos were selfies with lots of filters (I didn't know much about filters then. I do now). The few that weren't were not very promising, but at the time I didn't think much of it. Also in retrospect, I found it interesting that the woman wanted to confirm I was 'tall enough'.

I get to the bar after her and see her walking in. My thought was "oh crap". That woman was a good 30 pounds and five years older than her pics. I wandered the bar hoping that I saw the wrong person even though deep down I knew it was. I went up to her, said hello and thus it begun. I don't care if a woman isn't perfect, obviously, so long as she is proportional, especially if she has a pleasant personality. She did not. She was dumb, worked part time (not out of necessity but out of laziness) and I'm 99% sure she was on probation for shoplifting. Anyway, after a while she asked if I wanted to try a bar down the street. I initially said ok, but when we got outside I pulled the "I've had a long day...". She didn't like that, her mood turned sour. Thing is, I don't think it had anything to do with me, she was just one of those women who isn't capable of loving anyone but herself and her ego. Of course I was made out to be the bad guy, at least my friend who set us up (who had set me up with a few bangable women so she got a pass on this one) stuck up for me. Also, she apologized after meeting her in person at a party not too long after.

Anyway, I told this story to a few friends. Of course one of the women gave that lame quote "You know, men are scared their date will be fat. Women are scared that their date will kill them". I said "Yea, but there is at most 1/10th of one percent chance that any harm will come to you. There's a 50% chance an blind/internet date will be fat".

Perhaps I'm just more aware now, but I see a lot more aggressive overweight/obese women wearing the latest slutware (now it appears to be backless shirts with short shorts). And I'm a believer in live-and-let-live type of guy, but one can't trick or force the opposite sex to be attracted to you. And until the overweight, awkward men that I work with or know start beating them off with a stick, then women, obese or otherwise, can actually complain about how unfair life is.

What a stupid thing this woman said. Besides the statistical reality you pointed out, there is also the fact that obesity kills more women at a young age than men do.

According to this NBC story published in 2015: "Obesity kills far more Americans than we think it does, according to a controversial new study that suggests obesity accounts of about 18 percent of all deaths in the United States - three times previous estimates."

We can break that down further. The Center for Disease Control puts out a chart each year that lists the Top Ten killers of women. Murders by men don't factor in. What does?

Listed in the Top Ten are: Heart disease (22 percent!), cancer, stroke, diabetes, and kidney disease -- all of which can be brought on by obesity.

So, to sum this up: Little Debbie is more deadly to women than any Tom, Dick, or Harry. Tell that to your friend.

For sure. I had heard that quote before, so I googled and per the Washington Post here is the source:

Quote:A Margaret Atwood quote about people’s worst fear echoed through the thread: “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.” As the documentary “When A Stranger Clicks” observes, “Surveys show that in the online dating world, women are afraid of meeting a serial killer. Men are afraid of meeting someone fat.”

And when women (or anyone) talks about 'healthy at any size' and 'you can't tell someone's health just by looking at them. What are you a doctor?', I always reply "that's a bunch of bullshit. You know how I know? Science".

The height thing is always interesting. Women can obsess about it, but they lose their shit if a man has physical preferences. That and they have no self awareness. There was that TED talk a few pages ago by an overweight/obese woman complaining how she can't meet a guy taller than her and the only guys asking her out were short, fat guys. Any guy like that who tried such nonsense would be laughed out of the room, and rightly so.

And as I've said, most men are looking for a woman at a normal/healthy weight. Women often qualify their height preference as 'tall' or over '6 feet', at the upper end of the bell curve. And men are too demanding?

I have never dated in the US. If there is an epidemic of Secret Internet fatty, one solution is simply to ask: "Hey, I would like to see more pictures of you, can you take a quick picture of you and send it with Whatsapp?"

A variant is: "Hey, I would like to see more picture of you, do you have Facebook/ instagram/ whatever ?"

I have already use these 2 lines in Asia, when women use a lot of filter.

In some Asian countries, I have to ask the question "Are you a real woman? There is a lot of Lady Boy on this website that's why I have to ask"

In my experience, women don't get offended by these direct questions.

The only thing you have to lose is one internet dating prospect, and I don't care to lose that.

Worthy points you've made there, and I can address 'em as well. I know, as far as losing an online prospect goes, it's a triviality, but what grinds me is just how easy it is to do so. With the 'asking for more pix' proposition, I've since learned to avoid asking, as it's been responded to very negatively 9 out of 10 times. And really, if the profile has nothing but an array of face pix, even if she agrees to send more, all you'll likely to get . . . is more face pix. A lot of these responses have become so stamped-out repetitive, that I can see them coming before they actually show up on the screen.

If you feel you have to see more pix, you've all ready fucked up.

(04-24-2018 01:22 PM)CRR Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 12:29 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 11:51 AM)CRR Wrote:  Mess O

That does sound brutal, if it makes you feel better, this happens to every guy.

I was semi-SIFed a little while back. An ex-coworker/friend (good woman for sure), had a friend of a friend who wanted to meet me. I'm not very social media savvy, but I was shown her Instagram and 99% of her photos were selfies with lots of filters (I didn't know much about filters then. I do now). The few that weren't were not very promising, but at the time I didn't think much of it. Also in retrospect, I found it interesting that the woman wanted to confirm I was 'tall enough'.

I get to the bar after her and see her walking in. My thought was "oh crap". That woman was a good 30 pounds and five years older than her pics. I wandered the bar hoping that I saw the wrong person even though deep down I knew it was. I went up to her, said hello and thus it begun. I don't care if a woman isn't perfect, obviously, so long as she is proportional, especially if she has a pleasant personality. She did not. She was dumb, worked part time (not out of necessity but out of laziness) and I'm 99% sure she was on probation for shoplifting. Anyway, after a while she asked if I wanted to try a bar down the street. I initially said ok, but when we got outside I pulled the "I've had a long day...". She didn't like that, her mood turned sour. Thing is, I don't think it had anything to do with me, she was just one of those women who isn't capable of loving anyone but herself and her ego. Of course I was made out to be the bad guy, at least my friend who set us up (who had set me up with a few bangable women so she got a pass on this one) stuck up for me. Also, she apologized after meeting her in person at a party not too long after.

Anyway, I told this story to a few friends. Of course one of the women gave that lame quote "You know, men are scared their date will be fat. Women are scared that their date will kill them". I said "Yea, but there is at most 1/10th of one percent chance that any harm will come to you. There's a 50% chance an blind/internet date will be fat".

Perhaps I'm just more aware now, but I see a lot more aggressive overweight/obese women wearing the latest slutware (now it appears to be backless shirts with short shorts). And I'm a believer in live-and-let-live type of guy, but one can't trick or force the opposite sex to be attracted to you. And until the overweight, awkward men that I work with or know start beating them off with a stick, then women, obese or otherwise, can actually complain about how unfair life is.

What a stupid thing this woman said. Besides the statistical reality you pointed out, there is also the fact that obesity kills more women at a young age than men do.

According to this NBC story published in 2015: "Obesity kills far more Americans than we think it does, according to a controversial new study that suggests obesity accounts of about 18 percent of all deaths in the United States - three times previous estimates."

We can break that down further. The Center for Disease Control puts out a chart each year that lists the Top Ten killers of women. Murders by men don't factor in. What does?

Listed in the Top Ten are: Heart disease (22 percent!), cancer, stroke, diabetes, and kidney disease -- all of which can be brought on by obesity.

So, to sum this up: Little Debbie is more deadly to women than any Tom, Dick, or Harry. Tell that to your friend.

For sure. I had heard that quote before, so I googled and per the Washington Post here is the source:

Quote:A Margaret Atwood quote about people’s worst fear echoed through the thread: “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.” As the documentary “When A Stranger Clicks” observes, “Surveys show that in the online dating world, women are afraid of meeting a serial killer. Men are afraid of meeting someone fat.”

And when women (or anyone) talks about 'healthy at any size' and 'you can't tell someone's health just by looking at them. What are you a doctor?', I always reply "that's a bunch of bullshit. You know how I know? Science".

The height thing is always interesting. Women can obsess about it, but they lose their shit if a man has physical preferences. That and they have no self awareness. There was that TED talk a few pages ago by an overweight/obese woman complaining how she can't meet a guy taller than her and the only guys asking her out were short, fat guys. Any guy like that who tried such nonsense would be laughed out of the room, and rightly so.

And as I've said, most men are looking for a woman at a normal/healthy weight. Women often qualify their height preference as 'tall' or over '6 feet', at the upper end of the bell curve. And men are too demanding?

The male height/female obesity topics actually go together, even though most people don't connect them.

Women don't want to "look big" beside a man. This presents double the problem for fat women: They look big compared to everyone.

So, fatter women prefer much taller men because bigger guys make them look smaller by comparison. This is especially true for black women -- who have the most stringent height preferences in the dating world but are the least sought after women and the chubbiest (I've seen sources for this...but at this stage, do I really have to look them up? This is common sense).

Anyway, back in the days of my youth (think "Back to the Future"), there was less of a height obsession from women because THEY were smaller themselves. You could date a girl a couple inches taller, but it looked passable because you were both slim.

Now that women are bigger, a short guy looks like Mini Me standing beside that mega-lard from "This Is Us" (can't be bothered to look up its name).

Shit - you may right Days - the fatties of today NEED taller and more muscular men just so that they don't appear like the land-whales they are:

(04-25-2018 01:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Shit - you may right Days - the fatties of today NEED taller and more muscular men just so that they don't appear like the land-whales they are:

What are those guys doing!? Particularly the 1st one, that dude is in great shape, why is he with that land whale!?

On the whole height/weight thing, I agree with what has been said. Skinny girls, on the whole, have less issue with height than the fatties.
It's something I've not really thought about before but what has been said makes sense. Girls want to feel protected i.e. smaller than their partner, so if you're a fatty, you need a bigger guy to make you seem small by comparison.

I'm a short guy but I have a strong build further enhanced by the gym. When dating in Aus, it was the bigger girls who most often had an issue. The thin girls, who I would have 15-20 kg's on, didn't bring it up.
In Asia it is even more pronounced due to their slighter builds, I been with many girls here who are taller than me, some by 3 or 4 inches, but they never bring it up and instead comment on how masculine I am.

(04-25-2018 01:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Shit - you may right Days - the fatties of today NEED taller and more muscular men just so that they don't appear like the land-whales they are:

(04-24-2018 11:51 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  The male height/female obesity topics actually go together, even though most people don't connect them.

Women don't want to "look big" beside a man.

Yep, I am in 100% agreement on this. I was just thinking about this the other day. Especially how it applies to taller girls.

For example, with girls who are 5'8+: Logically we think "well sure, she wants a guy taller than her so she can feel protected/safe" and while this plays a part, I think the other part lies in the fact that she doesn't want to seem freakishly big because she already feels that way.

I'm average in height myself, but I find girls that are > 5'8 to usually have bigger hands, bigger feet, longer faces, etc....features just aren't attractive. And maybe I feel this way because I'm average in height, but my roommate is 6'4, and he prefers smaller girls too. Could be anecdotal, but I really believe most men find these same 'gargantuan' features in women unattractive. And women are conscious of this.

So while we see these whores say "Must be over 6 feet tall" and automatically think "what a shallow bitch" (this can still be true) the true reason is because she wants a man to make her feel petite and feminine. Because, in the end, it's all about them and their self image and how a guy makes her feel.

This has obviously been magnified with these online dating apps because at their root females use them validation tools.

Self validation > Getting fucked by Chad

I don't understand it myself, but some guys just like the big ones. I had a GF back in the day that worked with some hog that had guys calling and showing up to see her all the time.

Well, we don't know that they are actual couples. The top one especially looks like she's paid him to be there to make her look desirable. The man in the second forum needs to find his dignity, then this forum.

I've always noticed the big girls want rugby players and whatnot and it's obvious why. Girls like to be dominated in the bedroom and you can't throw around a 200lb sack of lard with a face the same way you can a normally sized woman.

Recent exchange with 44-year-old . . .

me: I'll bring the dark chocolate.
(opener based on how she listed that she has a preference for such)
her: sounds perfect, but I want kids.
(that particular week, I listed on my profile that I don't want kids)
me: How?
her: Naturally, or medical intervention.
me: What's your number?
(pretty much my default response to anything)

Really, now, what the fuck kind of dream world are these chicks living in?

It might be worth starting a "No-online dating thread", since I think I need to quit this shit entirely, ultimately prompting me to go the fuck out and hit the streets when I'm "in the mood".

^What you need to quit is pursuing 44 year olds. Seriously... why?

(05-05-2018 11:40 AM)Mess O. Wrote:  Recent exchange with 44-year-old . . .

me: I'll bring the dark chocolate.
(opener based on how she listed that she has a preference for such)
her: sounds perfect, but I want kids.
(that particular week, I listed on my profile that I don't want kids)
me: How?
her: Naturally, or medical intervention.
me: What's your number?
(pretty much my default response to anything)

Really, now, what the fuck kind of dream world are these chicks living in?

It might be worth starting a "No-online dating thread", since I think I need to quit this shit entirely, ultimately prompting me to go the fuck out and hit the streets when I'm "in the mood".

She's 44 and still thinks she can have kids?

This fits well here as well:



https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/05/...elessness/

I agree with Heartiste - the problem is not that she smiled so broadly with the 55yo actor who could have had her in his hotel room in 10 minutes. The problem is the lack of happiness visible in her marriage pictures. That is the look of settling.

Left swipe.