Post: #26

(02-17-2012 01:05 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  You have one of the best setups player! I'm jealous. Miami in the winter and MTL in the summer is a tough combo to beat!

Actually it's Miami AND Colombia for Winters, and Montreal and Bulgaria/Montenegro/Greek Islands for summers. =)

* I'll be in Colombia in 3 weeks, you coming?


Mixx

Post: #27

(02-17-2012 12:46 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I'm counting down the months. Can't wait either. I think G said something about almost feeling suicidal the first time he went to MTL for not having gone sooner. Strong statement, but I can relate. My first night on St. Laurent was an overwhelming experience. I was dumbfounded and flabbergasted by the level of talent all around me. The closest I ever came to that feeling was in Cordoba, Argentina, but Montreal was still more impressive, especially being so close to home. I really regret having slept on it for so long. Talk about negligence!

Yeah, I was almost suicidal.

Although I am a little hesitant to jump on this "hype Montreal" train.

All of this hype is going to raise expectations to unreasonable levels. I have a feeling this is going to end in tears.

For me, the place worked great. But as you guys know, I bring the noize.

A place like Montreal wasn't expecting someone like me.

I still wouldn't call it easy.

But I will say, if you have all the pieces of the puzzle working for you ie Sharp Dressed, Mad Game, Strong Bankroll, G Status, Stamina, etc, you will get what you deserve.

It will also be interesting to see how this RooshVforum Invasion is going to play out.

This is really the first of its kind.

Post: #28

(02-17-2012 01:24 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  It will also be interesting to see how this RooshVforum Invasion is going to play out.

This is really the first of its kind.

I also wonder:

1. A RooshV forum invasion of Montreal. <<-- this may be a good thing actually, a lot of guys here will put girls in their place, and not over-value them like drunk Stag parties chasing hookers!
2. A world Championship soccer tournament like Eurocup 2012, or Fifa Colombia.
3. The Formula F1 races. <<-- This is a major cock-fest. Surprisingly, Montreal has not been ruined....yet!

Mixx

Post: #29

(02-17-2012 12:47 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  Quality of girls? Best I saw in N.America.

Ease of hooking up? Not so easy without social proof and (preferably) French language skills.

Also, steer clear of the place in winter.

Yeah. I don't want to give anyone the impression that you can just come here and win. You have to have game just like in any other top tier city. The difference with Montreal is the consistency in the level of quality and the excellent ratios. I never walked into a sausage fest the entire time I was there.

As a general rule of thumb, for a player wanting to strike gold at an outing, he should make at least 10 approaches, which is very feasible in MTL. Compare that to DC, where finding 10 approachable girls is a challenge in itself. Plus you have to contend with a sausage fest most of the time. In those environs, a chick who would otherwise be a 6 begins to behave like a 10, thanks to all of the lame and thirsty males around competing for her attention and offering her drinks.

That is a very unfavorable environment for a practitioner of game.

That being said, I did experience quite a number of flakes and rejection in MTL. This may sound weird but I actually looked forward to rejections. MTL is a place with so much action that you worry that you might be walking home with a girl who's not the best you can do that night, even if she's attractive. There's so much talent and you also have that magical hour after the clubs close down and a lot of girls are drunk and more likely DTF. I usually made my approaches earlier in the night just to get it out of my system and prepare myself for the real winners later on in the night.

That's actually how I learned game: relentlessly making approaches. Through that, I learned how girls think and how retarded so many of them are. Some of the conversations I've had and the openers that have worked are downright ridiculous, which is why I don't take girls seriously. Once I got my lifestyle down, traveled more, dressed better, my approaches increased and through that I acquired confidence, self-awareness and control. That's the key to having the right attitude towards chicks no matter your goals (LTR, SNL, harem, etc). Chicks instinctively prefer the alpha male and when you have no fear in striking up a conversation with any girl you lay your eyes on, that attitude will help keep your bitch in check should you go the LTR route.

Anyway, I digress. It will be interesting to see how MTL turns out this summer if all these RVF cats make an appearance. We could clean that place up dry, but I welcome it. If that happens, I'm confident a new location will be ready to take its place. The world is always changing.

Post: #30

(02-17-2012 01:07 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 01:05 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  You have one of the best setups player! I'm jealous. Miami in the winter and MTL in the summer is a tough combo to beat!

Actually it's Miami AND Colombia for Winters, and Montreal and Bulgaria/Montenegro/Greek Islands for summers. =)

* I'll be in Colombia in 3 weeks, you coming?


Mixx

Even better man. Wins all around. I'll be in touch about Colombia. If I can make it, I'll let you know. Might have to look into a Spirit airlines route to FLL onto Bquilla or Cartagena

Post: #31

(02-17-2012 01:24 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Yeah, I was almost suicidal.

Although I am a little hesitant to jump on this "hype Montreal" train.

All of this hype is going to raise expectations to unreasonable levels. I have a feeling this is going to end in tears.

For me, the place worked great. But as you guys know, I bring the noize.

A place like Montreal wasn't expecting someone like me.

I still wouldn't call it easy.

But I will say, if you have all the pieces of the puzzle working for you ie Sharp Dressed, Mad Game, Strong Bankroll, G Status, Stamina, etc, you will get what you deserve.

It will also be interesting to see how this RooshVforum Invasion is going to play out.

This is really the first of its kind.

I would like to read your Montreal write up, G. With details on the beginning swoop and the final lay. Race of the lizard, etc

Post: #32

Hencredible Casanova Wrote:MTL is a place with so much action that you worry that you might be walking home with a girl who's not the best you can do that night, even if she's attractive.

WOW! I've never felt that in any country I have been.

Mixx

Post: #33

(02-17-2012 01:44 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 01:07 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 01:05 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  You have one of the best setups player! I'm jealous. Miami in the winter and MTL in the summer is a tough combo to beat!

Actually it's Miami AND Colombia for Winters, and Montreal and Bulgaria/Montenegro/Greek Islands for summers. =)

* I'll be in Colombia in 3 weeks, you coming?


Mixx

Even better man. Wins all around. I'll be in touch about Colombia. If I can make it, I'll let you know. Might have to look into a Spirit airlines route to FLL onto Bquilla or Cartagena

Actually, do spirit FLL-->MDE (flight times are awesome!)** Then Avianca/Aires/ADA for a domestic flight to CLO.

Mixx

Post: #34

(02-17-2012 01:42 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 12:47 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  Quality of girls? Best I saw in N.America.

Ease of hooking up? Not so easy without social proof and (preferably) French language skills.

Also, steer clear of the place in winter.

Yeah. I don't want to give anyone the impression that you can just come here and win. You have to have game just like in any other top tier city. The difference with Montreal is the consistency in the level of quality and the excellent ratios. I never walked into a sausage fest the entire time I was there.

As a general rule of thumb, for a player wanting to strike gold at an outing, he should make at least 10 approaches, which is very feasible in MTL. Compare that to DC, where finding 10 approachable girls is a challenge in itself. Plus you have to contend with a sausage fest most of the time. In those environs, a chick who would otherwise be a 6 begins to behave like a 10, thanks to all of the lame and thirsty males around competing for her attention and offering her drinks.

That is a very unfavorable environment for a practitioner of game.

That being said, I did experience quite a number of flakes and rejection in MTL. This may sound weird but I actually looked forward to rejections. MTL is a place with so much action that you worry that you might be walking home with a girl who's not the best you can do that night, even if she's attractive. There's so much talent and you also have that magical hour after the clubs close down and a lot of girls are drunk and more likely DTF. I usually made my approaches earlier in the night just to get it out of my system and prepare myself for the real winners later on in the night.

That's actually how I learned game: relentlessly making approaches. Through that, I learned how girls think and how retarded so many of them are. Some of the conversations I've had and the openers that have worked are downright ridiculous, which is why I don't take girls seriously. Once I got my lifestyle down, traveled more, dressed better, my approaches increased and through that I acquired confidence, self-awareness and control. That's the key to having the right attitude towards chicks no matter your goals (LTR, SNL, harem, etc). Chicks instinctively prefer the alpha male and when you have no fear in striking up a conversation with any girl you lay your eyes on, that attitude will help keep your bitch in check should you go the LTR route.

Anyway, I digress. It will be interesting to see how MTL turns out this summer if all these RVF cats make an appearance. We could clean that place up dry, but I welcome it. If that happens, I'm confident a new location will be ready to take its place. The world is always changing.

Yeah, I agree with this.

I got rejected in Montreal tons.

The positive thing is you have opportunities to land clean shots in Montreal.

There are plenty of girls. And with Canada (in my experience) you don't have a local population of aggressive guys. Either trying to swoop or trying to fight you.

And guys aren't "trying to hold girls down" either. Again, this gives you opportunities to land clean punches.

So like I said above, if you have the pieces of the puzzle, you will get what you deserve.

Which is nice, because in many places, ie DC, you don't get what you deserve.

Or in CA you can take a loss because you are timed out ie bars closing.

Post: #35

(02-17-2012 01:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  And with Canada (in my experience) you don't have a local population of aggressive guys. Either trying to swoop or trying to fight you.

And guys aren't "trying to hold girls down" either. Again, this gives you opportunities to land clean punches.

So like I said above, if you have the pieces of the puzzle, you will get what you deserve.

Which is nice, because in many places, ie DC, you don't get what you deserve.

Or in CA you can take a loss because you are timed out ie bars closing.

Well said. Very true about getting what you deserve. 110% correct.

I don't want to offend any Canadians here (you guys aren't who I'm talking about anyway), but it seems like local guys there are beta males. I can't recall ever thinking about competition when I was there. I never had to "wait" to talk to a girl because of some guy. That place is wide open. There was even one time where I saw two girls with a guy at a bar and I approached the one I liked who was more attractive than the other, but the other girl was still decent. The more attractive one was actually dating the guy but the other one was just there with them so I talked to her instead. The guy, who saw me approach his chick initially, ended up buying all of us shots and invited me out to tag along with them to the next place where we drank some more and partied. I ended up smashing the single chick that night thanks in part to his assist. Canadians are friendly.

Post: #36

(02-17-2012 12:59 PM)pitt Wrote:  No phat ass chicks in Montreal? Damn (i know many of you guys call phat ass chicks fat girls, there is a difference)

But if they are that easy, then Montreal may still have a place in my player heart.

If you want phat ass, go for the many Franco-Africans living there such as Haitian lizards, Martinique, Guataloupe, Cape Verde etc.

Montreal does have some classy lizards there. Last Nov when I was up there, I saw a woman wearing a beautiful purple scarf. Had me shook.

I went there once with a friend of mine who doesn't even like white lizards. But we saw one after we finished at the buffet and my friend and I were frozen...at the same time..she was a FCUKING gorgeous white lizard.

Post: #37

(02-17-2012 02:00 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Well said. Very true about getting what you deserve. 110% correct.

I don't want to offend any Canadians here (you guys aren't who I'm talking about anyway), but it seems like local guys there are beta males. I can't recall ever thinking about competition when I was there. I never had to "wait" to talk to a girl because of some guy. That place is wide open. There was even one time where I saw two girls with a guy at a bar and I approached the one I liked who was more attractive than the other, but the other girl was still decent. The more attractive one was actually dating the guy but the other one was just there with them so I talked to her instead. The guy, who saw me approach his chick initially, ended up buying all of us shots and invited me out to tag along with them to the next place where we drank some more and partied. I ended up smashing the single chick that night thanks in part to his assist. Canadians are friendly.

That is because, to quote my brother Samseau, we believe in passing the pussy forward! Now, spread that in America!

Post: #38

Hencredible Casanova Wrote:MTL is a place with so much action that you worry that you might be walking home with a girl who's not the best you can do that night, even if she's attractive.

Poland was like that for me. I'd land a girl and then hotter girls would be checking me out. I was in the business of closing though so I always stuck with the bird in hand.

Post: #39

(02-17-2012 03:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Hencredible Casanova Wrote:MTL is a place with so much action that you worry that you might be walking home with a girl who's not the best you can do that night, even if she's attractive.

Poland was like that for me. I'd land a girl and then hotter girls would be checking me out. I was in the business of closing though so I always stuck with the bird in hand.

Why can't we get a place like this with warm weather and a beach?

Another one of the cruel tricks the world plays on The International Playboy.

Post: #40

(02-17-2012 03:30 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 03:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Hencredible Casanova Wrote:MTL is a place with so much action that you worry that you might be walking home with a girl who's not the best you can do that night, even if she's attractive.

Poland was like that for me. I'd land a girl and then hotter girls would be checking me out. I was in the business of closing though so I always stuck with the bird in hand.

Why can't we get a place like this with warm weather and a beach?

Another one of the cruel tricks the world plays on The International Playboy.

We do. It's called the Dominican Republic

Post: #41

(02-17-2012 03:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  We do. It's called the Dominican Republic

No disrespect Mechanico, I truly value your opinion, a lot. But there is NO WAY you can compare the beauty of Blonde, eastern European women to the Dominican women, NO WAY. I grew up with Dominicanas, I know them extremely well, and more than 60% of them are OBESE from all of the high-carb, high-calorie traditional arroz con habichuela y chuleta plates they eat DAILY!!!

There are a few stunners, but they are are few, and the ones that are 8's or above, act incredibly stuck up!

Unless you are talking about hitting up all the tourists in Punta Cana. ???

Mixx

Post: #42

(02-17-2012 02:00 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 01:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  And with Canada (in my experience) you don't have a local population of aggressive guys. Either trying to swoop or trying to fight you.

And guys aren't "trying to hold girls down" either. Again, this gives you opportunities to land clean punches.

So like I said above, if you have the pieces of the puzzle, you will get what you deserve.

Which is nice, because in many places, ie DC, you don't get what you deserve.

Or in CA you can take a loss because you are timed out ie bars closing.

Well said. Very true about getting what you deserve. 110% correct.

I don't want to offend any Canadians here (you guys aren't who I'm talking about anyway), but it seems like local guys there are beta males. I can't recall ever thinking about competition when I was there. I never had to "wait" to talk to a girl because of some guy. That place is wide open. There was even one time where I saw two girls with a guy at a bar and I approached the one I liked who was more attractive than the other, but the other girl was still decent. The more attractive one was actually dating the guy but the other one was just there with them so I talked to her instead. The guy, who saw me approach his chick initially, ended up buying all of us shots and invited me out to tag along with them to the next place where we drank some more and partied. I ended up smashing the single chick that night thanks in part to his assist. Canadians are friendly.

You misunderstand here what is beta and what is not . I think it's because where you from you are just not accustom to man who are friendly .If he was that beta He wouldn't had pay a round of shooters. Insted He would have protect his meet and give you a look or told you to go away .He was confident in his abbility and don't seem to have been scared that you take his girl . Guys here are friendly, the most of the time they will accept you like if you were an old friend and you respond why in your previous post . We all know we are able to find a women at the end of the night because of the abondance of women we got . We don't really need to protect our meet like if it was nothing else . If you are smart enough you should talk to guys and naturally they will present their women circle. It's will be a pleasure for them because most of them have all ready fucked theses girls . It's a good opportunity for them because they have fun with you and won't have to deal with theses girl and can put focus on other one .Knowing that now, I think you will all have succes here this summer .

Post: #43

(02-17-2012 04:36 PM)Alfonzo Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 02:00 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 01:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  And with Canada (in my experience) you don't have a local population of aggressive guys. Either trying to swoop or trying to fight you.

And guys aren't "trying to hold girls down" either. Again, this gives you opportunities to land clean punches.

So like I said above, if you have the pieces of the puzzle, you will get what you deserve.

Which is nice, because in many places, ie DC, you don't get what you deserve.

Or in CA you can take a loss because you are timed out ie bars closing.

Well said. Very true about getting what you deserve. 110% correct.

I don't want to offend any Canadians here (you guys aren't who I'm talking about anyway), but it seems like local guys there are beta males. I can't recall ever thinking about competition when I was there. I never had to "wait" to talk to a girl because of some guy. That place is wide open. There was even one time where I saw two girls with a guy at a bar and I approached the one I liked who was more attractive than the other, but the other girl was still decent. The more attractive one was actually dating the guy but the other one was just there with them so I talked to her instead. The guy, who saw me approach his chick initially, ended up buying all of us shots and invited me out to tag along with them to the next place where we drank some more and partied. I ended up smashing the single chick that night thanks in part to his assist. Canadians are friendly.

You misunderstand here what is beta and what is not . I think it's because where you from you are just not accustom to man who are friendly .If he was that beta He wouldn't had pay a round of shooters. Insted He would have protect his meet and give you a look or told you to go away .He was confident in his abbility and don't seem to have been scared that you take his girl . Guys here are friendly, the most of the time they will accept you like if you were an old friend and you respond why in your previous post . We all know we are able to find a women at the end of the night because of the abondance of women we got . We don't really need to protect our meet like if it was nothing else . If you are smart enough you should talk to guys and naturally they will present their women circle. It's will be a pleasure for them because most of them have all ready fucked theses girls . It's a good opportunity for them because they have fun with you and won't have to deal with theses girl and can put focus on other one .Knowing that now, I think you will all have succes here this summer .

Thanks for the cultural clarification. That's definitely a big difference from where I'm from. I can't speak on the US as a whole because I've only lived in big city areas, but men here don't share their women with guys they don't even know. Interesting that you say that's the norm in Canada.

Post: #44

(02-17-2012 04:01 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 03:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  We do. It's called the Dominican Republic

No disrespect Mechanico, I truly value your opinion, a lot. But there is NO WAY you can compare the beauty of Blonde, eastern European women to the Dominican women, NO WAY. I grew up with Dominicanas, I know them extremely well, and more than 60% of them are OBESE from all of the high-carb, high-calorie traditional arroz con habichuela y chuleta plates they eat DAILY!!!

There are a few stunners, but they are are few, and the ones that are 8's or above, act incredibly stuck up!

Unless you are talking about hitting up all the tourists in Punta Cana. ???

Mixx

I don't want to derail this wonderful thread but in my travels there I was like what the fuck and holy shit all the time. The numbers (millions literally) are so great you have way more opportunity. If those are the kind of girls you like. I go back and forth..Jungle fever one day and redheads with freckles the next. I've never never seen so many single women floating around anyplace and have been to MTL at least 20 times.

Post: #45

(02-17-2012 04:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I've never never seen so many single women floating around anyplace and have been to MTL at least 20 times.

You've been to Montreal 20x and have never posted a data sheet for us? Grrrrrrrrrr

Don't do this to me man, don't...I already have my tixx for MTL! Don't take that from me dam you!

Mixx

Post: #46

I can't speak for anglophone but, in Québec yes it's common . Like I said it's a win/win situation .
They are a slut anyway and we have an expression who is '' Plus on est de fou , plus on rit'' that's mean , more jokers or more happy people we are , more we lagh . We are not egocentric here , they will try anything to help you that you having fun . Another point is even like your exemple with the guy and the 2 women you were , the guy and his girlfriend often will try to find you a girl .She will presenting you one of her girlfriend or trying to find you a random chick in the bar . It's why making contact with guy and women it's very a good asset here .

Post: #47

(02-17-2012 05:05 PM)Alfonzo Wrote:  I can't speak for anglophone but, in Québec yes it's common . Like I said it's a win/win situation .
They are a slut anyway and we have an expression who is '' Plus on est de fou , plus on rit'' that's mean , more jokers or more happy people we are , more we lagh . We are not egocentric here , they will try anything to help you that you having fun . Another point is even like your exemple with the guy and the 2 women you were , the guy and his girlfriend often will try to find you a girl .She will presenting you one of her girlfriend or trying to find you a random chick in the bar . It's why making contact with guy and women it's very a good asset here .

Alfonso, are you from Montreal?

Post: #48

(02-17-2012 05:04 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 04:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I've never never seen so many single women floating around anyplace and have been to MTL at least 20 times.

You've been to Montreal 20x and have never posted a data sheet for us? Grrrrrrrrrr

Don't do this to me man, don't...I already have my tixx for MTL! Don't take that from me dam you!

Mixx

Mixx, my fathers family is French Canadian and lives all up around there and Vermont. Not the Ben and Jerrys Vermont but the Daryll and my other brother Daryll Vermont. So my experiences there have all been on the low road if you know what I mean.

Post: #49

(02-17-2012 04:01 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 03:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  We do. It's called the Dominican Republic

No disrespect Mechanico, I truly value your opinion, a lot. But there is NO WAY you can compare the beauty of Blonde, eastern European women to the Dominican women, NO WAY. I grew up with Dominicanas, I know them extremely well, and more than 60% of them are OBESE from all of the high-carb, high-calorie traditional arroz con habichuela y chuleta plates they eat DAILY!!!

There are a few stunners, but they are are few, and the ones that are 8's or above, act incredibly stuck up!

Unless you are talking about hitting up all the tourists in Punta Cana. ???

Mixx

[email protected]? I didn't see much obese ones there??? Maybe the ones in America become obese like any other race on earth once they touch that high fructose, corn syrup stuff that Americans like to gorge on.

Again, this might be just a difference of taste. White lizards (on average) don't carry weight as well as black and latina lizards, in my humble opinion.
If I am wrong here, I welcome correction.

Post: #50

(02-17-2012 04:43 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Thanks for the cultural clarification. That's definitely a big difference from where I'm from. I can't speak on the US as a whole because I've only lived in big city areas, but men here don't share their women with guys they don't even know. Interesting that you say that's the norm in Canada.

Correction. Not all Canada. Probably a norm for Montreal. Toronto has some haters. Montreal is a different kettle of fish. It's like a European city smack dab in the middle of an North American city.