Post: #26

(02-10-2012 03:36 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  mixx what is your current physical condition and what are your goals?

My current Stats:


5'11 height
205 lbs, 33" waist size, 10% BF

My Goal:

180lbs 31" waist, 8% Bofy Fat <<-- This is my weight every summer, I bulk up in the winter as you can see I usually gain about 20lbs over winter months.

** I ultimately want to get ripped with an 8-PACK, the abs just above my groing should poke out.

I'm curious, why do you want to deadlift 500lbs? I mean, I never understood this about powerlifters as that type of body is not really attractive to 90% of females from any culture. This is a forum about picking-up women, so my advice will always be geared to what ultimately gets you that goal.

This is typically what a Power lifter who can deadlift 500+ lbs looks like. Is that your goal? Respect if it that is your goal, I respect all sports athletes for their dedication, but keep in mind this is a game/chase women forum, so it may not be the place to get solid advice if it has nothing to do with pussy.

Mixx

Post: #27

(02-10-2012 04:03 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

(02-10-2012 03:58 PM)velkrum Wrote:  ...just read paleo diet.

I have read about it. I would never eat pork liver pate or excess animal fat just because our ancestors ate it... Disagree with the grains and dairy thing too.

Donald, do you mind summing up your intents and I'll see if I can help you? What is your current weight? Are you planning on bulking up or do you just want to lose body fat and lean up? I will throw in my two pence(I've been working out for many moons) and then the more seasoned members on here can feel free to chime in and correct my suggestions. I don't like protein powders (hence I don't use them) and I shy away from bottled vitamins etc (not that I am knocking them).

My current regimen is based on a trial and error method and I listen to my body. If it feels like shyt, I don't care if Arnold himself made the recommendation, I won't fcuk with it.

So break it down (goals, current status) and I will throw in my two pence. I previously recall that you said you were going to start working out twice a day. Are you doing that still? Maybe that is overtaxing your body?

I await your response.

Post: #28

(02-10-2012 04:10 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-10-2012 11:02 AM)MiXX Wrote:  NO CRAKERS OR PEANUT BUTTER AT ALL!

Fuck no peanut butter!!! I love peanut butter!

Many days I have 2 tablespoons of pb in my 8am banana-oatmeal shake. I tend to think this is ok because there is some protein and good fat in the pb. But, I don't know???

What do you think?

If you are under-weight, and scrawny, bananas and peanut butter are good ways to bulk-up, but if you want good fats, you should be getting them from FISH and grass fed, organic meats.


OP is trying to trim down, and burn excess FAT, so, he should eliminate bananas and peanut butter completely.

Mixx

Post: #29

(02-10-2012 04:12 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(02-10-2012 03:36 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  mixx what is your current physical condition and what are your goals?

My current Stats:


5'11 height
205 lbs, 33" waist size, 10% BF

My Goal:

180lbs 31" waist, 8% Bofy Fat <<-- This is my weight every summer, I bulk up in the winter as you scan see I usually gain about 20lbs over winter months.

Mixx

Mixx why do you bulk up in winter, when winter for you is a wifebeater and some flip flops?

Post: #30

(02-10-2012 04:17 PM)Moma Wrote:  Mixx why do you bulk up in winter, when winter for you is a wifebeater and some flip flops?

hehe. Mostly because of all the Holidays back-to-back starting in October (Halloween, my B'day, Thanksgiving, Xmas, New Years), and I usually like to relax and not hit my diet as strict. It's like my reward for being a good boy all year - slacking off 3 months.


Mixx

Post: #31

(02-10-2012 04:12 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(02-10-2012 03:36 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  mixx what is your current physical condition and what are your goals?

My current Stats:


5'11 height
205 lbs, 33" waist size, 10% BF

My Goal:

180lbs 31" waist, 8% Bofy Fat <<-- This is my weight every summer, I bulk up in the winter as you scan see I usually gain about 20lbs over winter months.

** I ultimately want to get ripped with an 8-PACK, the abs just above my groing should poke out.

I'm curious, why do you want to deadlift 500lbs? I mean, I never understood this about powerlifters as that type of body is not really attractive to 90% of females from any culture. This is a forum about picking-up women, so my advice will always be geared to what ultimately gets you that goal.

This is typically what a Power lifter who can deadliest 500+ lbs looks like. Is that your goal? Respect if it is your goal, I respect all sports athletes for their dedication, but keep in mind this is a game/chase women forum, so it may not be the place to get solid advice if it has nothing to do with pussy.

Mixx

hahahaha that picture is ridiculous.

dude, i already deadlift 435lbs. i have a 38 inch waist and weigh 260.

i participate in combat sports and enjoy the strength advantage.

but the larger point is that i do what i do because i want to do it.

and in my experience the confidence and charisma that generates far out-weighs what media says women (or men) want.

i have no belly like that guy in the picture.

and no girl has ever said to me, 'i like you but are too big and strong!'

i also rock a big beard.

the women i attract, which is plenty, also tell me that they think men who have and are obsessed with a six pack are mentally ill.

i'm not judging, just saying what i hear.

i dont think your 90% figure is that accurate.

Post: #32

reaper, you are a big breh, I respect that.

However, never ever ever ever believe what a lizard tells you about what she finds disgusting. She finds a man with a six pack mentally ill? She is hating, best believe.

I attest to a fact that my closes (for sex) are higher when I am cut and muscular. A lean body gets lizards (of any race) wet. It makes the escalation process MUCH easier. I learnt this in London, England and since then I've never looked back.

Post: #33

mixx, to address the thread topic:

the guy you're giving advice to should know that an 8 pack is your goal.

some guys aren't interested in an 8 pack.

i think most guys would be happy being relatively muscular, strong, with a decent shape - while eating like a normal person.

your diet, while admirable in the effort it requires, is hardly 'normal' nor sustainable and i bet it causes a little red flag to the women you're with. it likely annoys them just like a chick who only ever ate salad would to me.

then again, thats just me. more power to ya! i'm sure it is working for you.

and PS i'm not at this forum for diet advice! just trying to help out a guy who is in fact looking for advice. note that i have not advocated to him my diet, which would probably contain more calories in one day then you eat in a week.

Post: #34

Duly noted player, I was not knocking you, please don't get me wrong. I respect all athletes even power lifters who dedicate their life to achieving a 1,000lb lift.

Like I said, based on your goals of powerlifting, I truly do not feel any of us here can help you anymore than the advice that has already been posted. I'm sure if you go to specific bodybuilding forums for powerlifting they will give you more solid advice.

** Tell them to come here when they want to fuck a mother and a daughter in a foreign country at the same time =)

(02-10-2012 04:39 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  the women i attract, which is plenty, also tell me that they think men who have and are obsessed with a six pack are mentally ill.

i'm not judging, just saying what i hear.

very true. I am mentally sick, to the point where none of my family want to be near me during my cutting-up weeks. I am just 100% adrenaline psycho eating and working out. I am so mentally ill/obsessed that I even take portable food scales to weigh my food when I eat out.

Your girl is not lying!


Mixx

Post: #35

(02-10-2012 04:43 PM)Moma Wrote:  reaper, you are a big breh, I respect that.

However, never ever ever ever believe what a lizard tells you about what she finds disgusting. She finds a man with a six pack mentally ill? She is hating, best believe.

I attest to a fact that my closes (for sex) are higher when I am cut and muscular. A lean body gets lizards (of any race) wet. It makes the escalation process MUCH easier. I learnt this in London, England and since then I've never looked back.

mad props to you for being able to achieve and maintain your goals.

no doubt about that.

but really, do be aware that there are some women who view six pack abs as inherently unmasculine.

it is not very manly to be so vain to the point of extreme dieting.

that is for chicks

a Man, does what he does and then is who is.

i think there is a plenty of metro-backlash built up from the late 90's and 00's such that the manly man approach has traction.

dunno bro! some chicks like to be crushed by a mountain of man.

some chicks like to get with skinny dudes

Post: #36

Moma, I don't check my weight. I judge improvements by clothing size. I'm very much like reaper, I do not care much about a 6 or 8 pack. I mostly do compound exercises and care about overall strength and mass.

Mixx, I believe I will still have to eat those crackers, but only before I workout (for energy.) I've ordered a pre workout drink called Jack3d, maybe if that works I won't have to change anything from my diet after all.

Post: #37

Reaper, the problem is, eating normally in the Western hemisphere ESPECIALLY in North America, will get someone the normal American body..FAT.

One has to be very technical in what they eat these days because foods are loaded with all sorts of crap. Gone were the days when one could eat wild game and be strong.

Now with corn syrup in these drinks, lies about it being 100% fruit juices, zero fat foods (flooded with sugar) and zero calorie drinks (when they don't mention that the FDA permits a company to omit a certain food component from the food list if it is below a certain amount).

All this shyt, results in fat asses waddling all over the place. As a result, gyms, personal trainers, doctors, weight loss clinics make people billionaires overnight.

Post: #38

(02-10-2012 04:50 PM)Moma Wrote:  Reaper, the problem is, eating normally in the Western hemisphere ESPECIALLY in North America, will get someone the normal American body..FAT.

One has to be very technical in what they eat these days because foods are loaded with all sorts of crap. Gone were the days when one could eat wild game and be strong.

Now with corn syrup in these drinks, lies about it being 100% fruit juices, zero fat foods (flooded with sugar) and zero calorie drinks (when they don't mention that the FDA permits a company to omit a certain food component from the food list if it is below a certain amount).

All this shyt, results in fat asses waddling all over the place. As a result, gyms, personal trainers, doctors, weight loss clinics make people billionaires overnight.

dude, word up, you're preaching to the choir.

but you can eat healthy (for me that means paleo plus dairy, all grass-fed meats/dairy) without eating as you do.

your diet is, shall we say, extreme.

Post: #39

(02-10-2012 04:49 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  mad props to you for being able to achieve and maintain your goals.

no doubt about that.

but really, do be aware that there are some women who view six pack abs as inherently unmasculine.

it is not very manly to be so vain to the point of extreme dieting.

that is for chicks

a Man, does what he does and then is who is.

i think there is a plenty of metro-backlash built up from the late 90's and 00's such that the manly man approach has traction.

dunno bro! some chicks like to be crushed by a mountain of man.

some chicks like to get with skinny dudes

Reaper, those reptiles who think a six pack is not masculine have a screw loose. One of my friends was 250 pounds with a six pack. Just a regular cat that would play a little ball for cardio, hit the gym now and then.

This type of build was normal in my area. People often associate six pack with skinny?

Six pack only means the person has low body fat. It doesn't mean that they are skinny jeans candidates. Shytt, I've seen Ronnie Coleman with a six pack and that mofo clocks in at 280 competition time (correct me if I am wrong).

But I agree with you on the mountain on muscle crushing. Some lizards truly dig that.

Post: #40

(02-10-2012 04:50 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  Moma, I don't check my weight. I judge improvements by clothing size. I'm very much like reaper, I do not care much about a 6 or 8 pack. I mostly do compound exercises and care about overall strength and mass.

Mixx, I believe I will still have to eat those crackers, but only before I workout (for energy.) I've ordered a pre workout drink called Jack3d, maybe if that works I won't have to change anything from my diet after all.

i'd say forget about jacked, it will work for a while then you will get a tolerance (so i've read, not my experience).

its been suggested that even on a super low carb diet with the "Protein Sparing Modified Fast" eating actual glucose pills prior to your workout is all you really need.

for me, i have a 8 oz of milk with 8 oz of coffee and handful size of some fresh fruit prior to my work out and i'm fine.

Post: #41

(02-10-2012 04:50 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  Moma, I don't check my weight. I judge improvements by clothing size. I'm very much like reaper, I do not care much about a 6 or 8 pack. I mostly do compound exercises and care about overall strength and mass.

Mixx, I believe I will still have to eat those crackers, but only before I workout (for energy.) I've ordered a pre workout drink called Jack3d, maybe if that works I won't have to change anything from my diet after all.

So then this meal plan that you have adopted is merely for energy? Do you mind if you put on a little bulk as long as you maintain high energy for your workouts?

Because when you talk about overall strength and mass, I get the feeling that cutting up is not a priority for you.

Post: #42

(02-10-2012 04:54 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-10-2012 04:49 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Reaper, those reptiles who think a six pack is not masculine have a screw loose.

their perspective is that extreme dieting is for girls not Men.

example:

a guy and girl sit down to dinner. one guy eats a fat steak, a baked potato with butter and bacon and pile of broccoli not worrying about portion sizes or counting calories..happily consuming a satisfying manly meal - saying, "gotta get stronger, me must eat"

the other guy eats a bowl of spinach and 4 oz of fish, worried about ketone levels, calories, portion sizes, grams of carbs, making sure to to as little he possible can - saying "summer is coming, i have to be cut up!"


and honestly, I lived this. i used to compete in a weight class sport. I had to get lean and cut weight like a motherfucker. it annoyed the bitches to no end how limited my diet was around event time. getting all skinny and drawn out. to a T they all were relieved when I quit that and started just working out for pure strength and mass gains.

Post: #43

there is difference between extreme dieting and making good choices.

Its not extreme to choose A over B.

A, might be spinach while B, might be Dorito's

making smart dietary choices does not define masculinity but it can maintain year round abs.

I've developed good eating habits to the point where it requires ZERO thought or effort about what I should be eating.

Post: #44

(02-10-2012 03:42 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  I understand carbs from pasta are different from carbs from an apple, but I don't know if I am really under-eating since my goal is to slim down a bit.

I used to eat oatmeal in the morning before working out and it gave me a lot of energy, too bad my serving size had 20 carbs.

Do you recommend I eat a big piece of chicken breast before working out in the morning?

Starving your body =/= slimming down

So many guys make the mistake of choosing a diet that is not sustainable A proper diet should have things you like to eat, so you dont begrudge eating them, while also consisting of things that are specifically chosen for your goals.

Some spinach and a few eggs is probably under 300 calories so unless your morning workout is burning less then that you're starving your body.

Chicken is good, its fast burning protein that wont leave you feeling all full of akward when you work out. Egg whites too. You can eat as many egg whites as you can stand and not really hurt yourself. I'd reccomend mixing egg white and whole eggs in a 2:1 ratio. That will get you some quick burning protein and fat to fuel. Throw in a cup of strawberries and you've got a powerhouse low carb breakfast.


@MiXX one of my new years resolutions was to get my deadlift to 500lbs, why? Function over form. I'd rather be able to rip a phonebook in half then just be another skinny dude, but its a personal prefernece. My natural body type has always been big, I'm playing to my strength.

In regards to game and this forum, an eight pack goes away when a shirt goes on. Now for you its probably more functional since you kick around the tropics and can be in situations where shirtless is an option a lot. For me I live in a temperate climate where shirtless is rarely an option. Arms like tree trunks and a big chest and back show through clothes.

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Post: #45

The thing is that the diet works fine and I am seeing results, the only downside is the lack of energy, maybe that's something low-carb lifters will need to accept. I've ordered a pre-workout supp called Jack3d. Lets see how it works.

Post: #46

Yeah man, your diet is nuts. All I do when I want to lose weight is eat three smaller meals a day and not drink booze on the weekends. As for my workout, if I just do it consistently I get leaner over time. I'm not worried about being sort of fat as long as I'm not on track to getting fatter.
An all or nothing approach to health and fitness is sure to get you injured or sick.

Also, major respect points for powerlifters and other athletes. I do rugby and kickboxing and while that's tough, it's nothing like the mental preparation I would need to be a powerlifter. A 400+ deadlift is impressive.

Post: #47

(02-10-2012 10:09 AM)Donald Duck Wrote:  I think my body is telling me to eat more carbs since I have been close to exhausted this week. I got back from the gym 3 hours ago and all I've been doing is lying in my bed. Since a couple of weeks, I've been eating less than 30 carbs a day, combined with heavy lifting 6x a week. I am noticing that my body fat is dropping but it can't be that I almost have no energy in the gym or after the gym anymore.

I eat 3 boiled eggs with a bowl of spinach every morning. (I workout in the morning) For variation I sometimes eat 3 boiled eggs with lean meat. My post workout contains of a can of tuna and some natural skim yoghurt. All in all, no more than 30 carbs a day.

What should I change? I was planning on going to the gym tomorrow but I am afraid that won't work since I barely have the energy to walk.

1. [Most likely] You are not eating enough calories. A big problem that I see when people describe their low-carb diets is that they have removed all carbs from their diet and not replaced them with protein/fat. You would be amazed at how much you can eat on a low-carb diet and lose weight. I break down how much you should be eating for various goals here: /thread-9946-p...#pid150663

2. Remember that your body has to go through an adjustment phase with the diet. By changing to a low-carb diet your body will go through a process of switching from using consumed carbs as fuel to consumed fat. This can take from weeks to months. Feeling groggy and without energy is a common complaint during the initials stages of low-carb, but if you ride it out it will go away. If you're finding it unbearable, read the Atkins diet phases or - as I would recommend - the Anabolic Diet for structured plans of entering/progressing through a low-carb diet. The AD recommends two weeks of shovelling your face with upwards of 3500 calories. It makes the adjustment much easier.

Post: #48

OK guys, as promised. I tested my Ketones today, and I eat fruits EVERYDAY, along with GREEN, RAW VEGETABLES.


MIXX IS IN KETOSIS!!

Post: #49

(02-11-2012 08:44 PM)Diomedes Wrote:  The AD recommends two weeks of shovelling your face with upwards of 3500 calories.

And this is exactly why the Atkins diet gets a thumbs down from Mixx. A diet should not be filled with a ton of calories, processed sugars from diet soft drinks, Atkins bars, and eat as much as I want plates while telling you that you can eat pork chops until you puke, but don't you dare touch and organic green apple!

I just proved that I am in Ketosis, I do EXTREME heart rate level excursions with YOGA everyday, and I eat fruits. Then again, I am a fucking unstoppable machine, on the field and in bed with women!


I AM NEVER TIRED, I eat right, and take my B12 shots. That's it! It did not take me weeks to adjust, this was from day 1!


Mixx

Post: #50

Even Dr Atkins, the most anti- calorie guy in the world, used to say that you should watch your calorie intake too.