Post: #26

I don't think I have ever banged a proper fatty came close once but when she was liying naked with rolls of flab I went all sober and had to walk away, she gamed me, her very fit friend who I wanted to bang sort of landed me with her. I have shagged some properly ugly women in my day, some real creatures but at least not fatties.

Post: #27

(02-05-2012 12:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  When I think fattie, I see this:



I've banged something like that once for the lolz, and then never again.

The girl on the far right is the fattest I'd go today:



I guess she's more a thickie, but in Europe she's a fattie.

In Eastern Europe, yes, in Central and Northern Europe, she would be normal-thick but not fat.

Post: #28

Because I live in Toronto and because I generally go for black lizards, fatties plays a part more of a time than it should. A lot of these slim lizards that you guys like does nothing for me and I won't even front like I'm interested. I had a slim lizard in the UK once openly come on to me but when I assessed her mawga frame, my brain rejected that easy slam. Funny enough, but I come hard with fatties. I linked a 280 pounder once (or maybe she was 300) but she was vague about the weight. She was tall (5'10-5'11) so her weight was justified (or was it?). She didn't have a belly, her tits were big and she had the coca cola bottle shape (family size). Again, I use my dyck as a test. I was hard when she got naked and blasted inside her like a raging typhoon so obviously my body accepted it.

I don't know if it's upbringing or genes but I've never failed to spurt inside a fatty. On the other hand, I've had failures with slim lizards. I used to slam a slim one just for status purposes and I find it very difficult to arrive when I am rattling against bones and she is complaining about my weight.
I've literally delivered inside a fatty and fell asleep for an hour and she never complains.

The slim ones push me off even before I've cum or complain about my weight. Plus the fact that bouncing off of all that flesh is very exhilirating for me.
I usually go on a look thing. If she has a ripe shapely onion and a coca cola bottle shape, then I'm game. If she has flesh hanging off the wrong areas or resembles a barrel with legs, then game OFF.

Post: #29

One time a fattie asked me to come home with her. I said "yes".

I never looked down at her body. I kept my eyes at tit level and above.

Post: #30

(02-05-2012 04:41 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  *breaks out fat bitch data sheet*

lulz.

IME, there are 3 kinds of fat bitches, and i've managed to fuck only 2 of them

1) A fat bitch with assets
- massive titties
- Brazilian level of ass

This is your typical ScoreHD/porno type chick. They know that when you talk to them, you really just want to fuck them. Unlike a lot of women who pretend that you're really interested in the face, fashion, or what they have to say - a fat chick with big tits KNOWS that all you can think about is fucking her. And pretty much, anything you say is in service of that.

So if she wants to fuck, that night, you might be a good candidate. (this is the only way I've managed to pull a Samantha 38G type)

But there's a god damned line to get up in these broads, like you wouldn't believe, primarily because of the thirst and the 'perceived' easiness.

I find these bitches to be much harder to pull than regular hotties of a normal weight and normal ass/titty sizes.

I think this phenomenon is worse with Asian, Indian, Med/Arab, Latina, and White chicks who have big tits, and black women with big asses. They're fat, but they know they've got the goods that their usual suspects want.

And as long as the Asian/Indian/Med/Latina/White chicks with phat asses don't deal with a lot of hip hop/urban types - their bodies are generally unappreciated by their own guys, so it makes easier to get in. Which is why you want to break into cultural circles far outside of your own, cause Vijay is making her feel bad that she's not slender, whilst you would wax that ass to the point of her dl'ing tupac and learning to twerk for you.

And black chicks with big titties and noassatall disease, don't have the same level of competition as her sisters with phat asses and mosquito bites. (not that they'd tell you this though)

This is the holy grail, this is why we travel. We want to be in the one place where most of the native dudes want big titties, and we want the neglected phat asses, or most dudes want phat asses, and we want big titties, or most dudes want moderation and slenderness, and we want exaggeration.

2) Delusional bitches i.e. fat bitches with no good physical attributes whatsoever. No titties, no ass, no hips, no DSL's...nothing.

But
- she'll brag on titties that look like ant hills in comparison to her gut, cause she's 52D cup
- she says she has a phat ass, but it's really just very big, befitting her poundage.

I'm WI, so I deal with a lot of black women who are large and think they're in charge. Usually they're protecting the one cute one (who is usually just shorter, less fat, or younger)

Bertha thinks that she's a 10, and she thinks every dude is trying to fuck her, but if you aren't Tyrese or Brad Pitt, you have no chance. This is the general hot girl mind set, but it seems to be worse with these delusional bitches.

Unlike her sister with the massive titties or perfect bubble ass, she's just a barrel with 2 arms and hooves shod in chunky heels. She's deluded beyond all belief.

Why would you want to fuck a chick like this?

Honestly, sometimes a big chick's dirty mouth can catch your interest, and all you want is a chance to throat fuck her. Her bitchiness and orneriness, can flip that "punish" mode switch. And I know i'm not the only one that gets satisfaction by putting a bitch in her place. "punished with an ass fucking" © Kokokat

Sufficiently turned on, I'll spit the game, jump through some hoops, turn the game around and make her jump through mine, but the anger and hostility that some of these bitches have is just insurmountable. Like even if she's teasing and flirting, that shit can cut very deep, or she can be one word away from anger.

Although I think it is possible to bed one of these pitbulls (maybe bull mastiff is a better metaphor), they will wear you down to the point that you want to stop trying, even though a couple more minutes and she'll be sufficiently broken that she's down to fuck. Maybe she's more alpha, or maybe you come to your senses.

3) unguarded low self esteem bitches that trade pussy for any bit of affection.

Also built like a block of government cheese, they attract dudes for their sweetness, as opposed to their bitchiness.

aka, why you see a lot of black dudes with white chicks who have no physical redeeming qualities.

We've had meetings, and i'm trying to get my fellow broughams off that Roseanne Barr, but the field evidence tells us that 1) fat girls give great head, 2) white girls live to suck dick, therefore....fat white girls are Allah's form of reparations. Pretty much every other flavor of #3 is the same, just with the lack of head skills.

Anyway, these LSE bitches that aren't guarded like #2, are sweet as sweet potato pie, and grateful for any attention. They will do all that hollywood shit for you. Cook, clean, suck dick on command with awesome skills, anal upon request - this is only at the beginning, afterwards they of course become the bitches we despise, because the get bored, think they can do better.... (while you're just slumming, you could easily get seduced by the constant pussy access and get fat as a result, please believe me, i've seen it happen to folks)

But the difference is that these #3 girls, either approach you or make it very easy to approach them. Eye contact, proximity violations, all the classic, "hey come talk to me" stuff they teach in girls school.

So to recap, and this is for American chicks or foreign chicks in America

1) fat girls with obvious physical assets = have to game harder than normal

2) delusional fat chicks = if you're turned on, they will wear you out, rather than out game you (which is what happens with 9's and 10's, they purposely don't hook)

3) low self esteem fat chicks = no game necessary.

In my estimation, #3's become #2's after being pumped and dumped enough, and 2/3's out number #1's by a large and heavy margin.

I've knocked out #1 and #3, but this is more about a test of your own moral fiber and integrity, rather than servicing your dick's needs.

Still, the dick wants what it wants, and the brain just facilitates

WIA

I seem to be the only one who is impressed with this breakdown. A +1 from me.

Post: #31

Great breakdown WIA. I must have high testosterone because sometimes I'm out and Il see a thick or chubby girl (provided she's well proportioned, no belly) and just want to tear into her. Happens more in winter than in summer, it's like comfort food. I don't make a habit or a priority of it, but sometimes the urge hits and I need to go for it.

I read somewhere that male attraction to women is a function of beauty + perceived availability (sluttiness). Thick girls hit the second button hard for me. A girl who appears easier can seem hotter than they are in the moment.

As for the kind of game to run, I don't make special provisions - just the usual calibration for self-esteem. WIA is right that some of the ones with big tits are hit with direct game a lot and can have higher bitch shields than their appearance warrants. In that case just crank up the asshole game a bit more. In my experience if they are a bit older (at which point I'm not that interested any more in any case) they can be very wary of being pumped and dumped due to bitter experience.

Don't have enough data points on this to bust out a full sheet.

Post: #32

(02-06-2012 12:11 AM)Gmac Wrote:  I've banged a few fatties but I didn't really need much game to do it. Alcohol and logistics is pretty much all there is to it.

This is my experience as well.

Before finding game I slayed enough whales that Japan considered me for honorary citizenship.

If you're mildly attractive and show interest fat girls are usually ready because they're used to getting those "last call" guys who have no other options.

I've noticed since losing weight and adding on some muscle fat girls come out of the wood work now whenever I go out. They can pull a guy every night if they want, but they can never delude themselves into thinking those guys are the kind of guys they want to be getting taken home by.

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Post: #33

The WIA breakdown is pretty much spot-on.

This thread drunkenly inspired me to text the fattie I mentioned earlier last night. Invited her over tonight, which I sort of regret doing now. Just got a text from her saying she bought me a bottle of cognac, though.

I think that's overlooked a little-- big girls who are scoring some quality sex often seem to be more appreciative for it. If you're into the whole "sugar momma" thing, gaming a rich sloppy monster could probably be easily rewarding.

Post: #34

Would you? Because I would.



I could fit into that girl's pants, but she has the right ratio for me.

Also, she's still young, so her collagen hasn't broken down, and thus the cottage cheese wouldn't be that noticeable.

What about her?



Or her:


One more:

Post: #35

(02-07-2012 04:39 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Would you? Because I would.



I could fit into that girl's pants, but she has the right ratio for me.

Also, she's still young, so her collagen hasn't broken down, and thus the cottage cheese wouldn't be that noticeable.

What about her?



Or her:


One more:

I actually prefer this body type over others. Girls like that take it in the ass a hell of a lot more often than regular chicks too.

butthex!

Post: #36

oof. damn man, thats putting it to the test!

when i was younger i definitely banged some fatties. dick got hard and everything. but as a man, and one with game, i'm much more discriminating.

though, of Roosh's picture, the one to the far right would be my preference of the three.

Post: #37

Simply talking to fat chicks turns anyone into a natural. And if you're horny enough, a bang isn't unlikely. Thus by definition you end up using game to bang a fattie.

I took a fat girl's virginity this way. I was genuinely annoyed that she was even talking to me and showing displeasure with her in general, but then when my better options faded away I figured what the hell and fucked her. She was nineteen and cute beyond being, you know, fat so it wasn't so bad.

This was over a year ago and every once in awhile she still sends me a text or hits me up on Facebook.

Post: #38

There's a reason those girls (minus the last one probably) are internet models and not working at Denny's That body type is RARE. That kind of "pert chubby" with that hip to waist to tits ratio just doesn't happen all that often.

If I saw girl like that out, yeah I'd go for it, but your average chubby girls tend to have much smaller tits and big but flat ass and her stomach isn't "smooth" (lack of a better word) its rolly

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Post: #39

(02-07-2012 07:41 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  There's a reason those girls (minus the last one probably) are internet models and not working at Denny's That body type is RARE. That kind of "pert chubby" with that hip to waist to tits ratio just doesn't happen all that often.

If I saw girl like that out, yeah I'd go for it, but your average chubby girls tend to have much smaller tits and big but flat ass and her stomach isn't "smooth" (lack of a better word) its rolly

Agreed, I rarely see girls like that. I've done girls that size. The problem I have with chubby girls is that even with girls like the above, 95% will only get bigger with time. So yeah I'd do it, but she would have to be pretty damn special for me to repeat.

Post: #40

(02-07-2012 04:39 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Would you? Because I would.

And so would 99.9% of every red blooded male on this board, even if they wouldn't admit it publicly.

Like my 40s thread. They'd smash 'em, assuming they didn't cream in their jeans first.

Oh, and the first and second ones don't look like an "internet models" to me. I always remain skeptical when guys assert such discriminating tastes.

The fattie I fucked in Phoenix? Lovely face, smile. Beautiful hands. A midsection roll? Some cottage cheese? Sure, but when she sucked my cock like a porn start with those beautiful lips, slobbering all over it, those flaws were the furthest thing from my mind.

Post: #41

(02-05-2012 12:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

The one on the left is nasty. I hate when I can see any muscular definition on a woman. It's so unfeminine to me and a major turnoff. So what if she's thin and hits the gym and will never get fat. I don't want to touch a woman with a body harder than mine.

The one in the middle has the ideal female body. No muscular definition, but well-toned and no fat. Nice flat stomach. Smooth, soft and creamy-looking legs.

The one on the right isn't fat. That's what they call "Rubenesque", harking back to painter Peter Paul Rubens who idealized that voluptuous yet toned body type in classical paintings. I have no problem with that body type whatsoever since there are usually nice, lush breasts, a flat stomach and nice hip to waist ratio.

(02-07-2012 04:39 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Would you? Because I would.



I could fit into that girl's pants, but she has the right ratio for me.

Also, she's still young, so her collagen hasn't broken down, and thus the cottage cheese wouldn't be that noticeable.

What about her?



Or her:


One more:

I would gladly leave all of their vaginas sore. Any of them! The 2nd one is my fav. The 3rd one looks like a porn version of Adele, lol. That last blonde girl is kinda pushin it, but would not kick her out of my bed!

Post: #42

(02-08-2012 12:01 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(02-05-2012 12:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

The one on the left is nasty. I hate when I can see any muscular definition on a woman. It's so unfeminine to me and a major turnoff. So what if she's thin and hits the gym and will never get fat. I don't want to touch a woman with a body harder than mine.

The one in the middle has the ideal female body. No muscular definition, but well-toned and no fat. Nice flat stomach. Smooth, soft and creamy-looking legs.

The one on the right isn't fat. That's what they call "Rubenesque", a word to harks back to Renaissance painter Peter Paul Rubens who set the standard for women in classical paintings as voluptuous yet toned. I have no problem with that body type whatsoever since there are usually nice, lush breasts, a flat stomach and nice hip to waist ratio.

(02-07-2012 04:39 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Would you? Because I would.



I could fit into that girl's pants, but she has the right ratio for me.

Also, she's still young, so her collagen hasn't broken down, and thus the cottage cheese wouldn't be that noticeable.

What about her?



Or her:


One more:

I would pummel that shit for days. Any of them. The first and 2nd the last are my favs. That last blonde girl is kinda pushin it, but would not kick her out of my bed!

Basically what you said but in reverse order. I think the one all the way to the right is gross. I'd have to be pretty drunk to get with that.

The one in the middle is cool but might not do much in the shack. I think the first one to the left is ideal for sex. She looks like she's pretty flexible and is probably a freak.

Post: #43

(02-06-2012 10:02 AM)Moma Wrote:  I linked a 280 pounder once (or maybe she was 300) but she was vague about the weight. She was tall (5'10-5'11) so her weight was justified (or was it?).

Up until the end of my sophomore year in college (read: last year), I played college football at a division one school. Division One football, if you're unfamiliar with it, is the highest level of college football in the United States, and it generally sports larger, stronger, and more talented players than all of the other levels of football below the professional level.

The woman in this anecdote, assuming your 280-300lb estimation of her weight is correct, is heavier than all of the 100+ players who were listed on my team's active roster this past season, save for two (one offensive lineman and one defensive lineman, both of whom were over 300). Most of the team was significantly taller than her as well (we had only one lineman, a defensive tackle, under 6'1"-he was 5'10, 250), and she still outweighs them.

That particular 5'10" lineman I mentioned could bench 450 pounds and squat a little over 600. Even with such a tremendous amount of muscle and strength (he was extremely bulky, pound-for-pound one of the strongest men in the Ivy League), she outweighs him.

That woman is also, in fact, heavier than ALL NFL linebackers, and most NFL defensive ends. She outweighs some of the strongest, fittest, most muscular and athletic men on Earth.

You like what you like, and I won't knock you for that. But when you ask "I think it was justified?" (regarding her weight), I'd have to say there is no way that could be the case. There is no real excuse for a woman to be that large beyond gluttony. Given the fact that women can't build muscle mass the way men can and that much taller men with vastly more strength than her still weigh less, one has to conclude that the extra mass is merely fat. She is, according to BMI classifications, morbidly obese (that would be Class III obesity, the highest classification in existence).

Just my two cents.

Post: #44

Athlone - Not a justification but bear in mind that your NFL and football guys are athletes and the onus is not on being as big as possible so it's not a fair comparision of apples to apples.
If you were a sumo wrestler and you threw up some of your spars weights and she surpassed those then I would say, yea, you are right.

Secondly, using the BMI as an index is inaccurate as it fails to take into consideration, bone structure and lean muscle mass. According to the BMI, I have been overweight since I was 13 and no one has ever called me fat in my life.

Thirdly, since I have come to North America, I've been meeting these heavy weights by the truck loads. In London, I only knew two lizards in the 300lb club and remember I grew up in London and met NUFF gyals.

For me, she passed the boner test. As long as she has the waist, onion like ass, breasts, passable face, and limited level of cottage cheese, I don't biz if she weighs 400lbs. If she doesn't look unacceptably overweight to me, I'll stroke the shyt out of her.

Post: #45

(02-08-2012 02:19 PM)Moma Wrote:  Athlone - Not a justification but bear in mind that your NFL and football guys are athletes and the onus is not on being as big as possible so it's not a fair comparision of apples to apples.
If you were a sumo wrestler and you threw up some of your spars weights and she surpassed those then I would say, yea, you are right.

Secondly, using the BMI as an index is inaccurate as it fails to take into consideration, bone structure and lean muscle mass. According to the BMI, I have been overweight since I was 13 and no one has ever called me fat in my life.

Thirdly, since I have come to North America, I've been meeting these heavy weights by the truck loads. In London, I only knew two lizards in the 300lb club and remember I grew up in London and met NUFF gyals.

For me, she passed the boner test. As long as she has the waist, onion like ass, breasts, passable face, and limited level of cottage cheese, I don't biz if she weighs 400lbs. If she doesn't look unacceptably overweight to me, I'll stroke the shyt out of her.

This is great! I need someone here to distract them in a big way

Post: #46

(02-08-2012 02:49 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  This is great! I need someone here to distract them in a big way

Why? They keep hitting on you down there?

Post: #47

(02-08-2012 02:55 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 02:49 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  This is great! I need someone here to distract them in a big way

Why? They keep hitting on you down there?

Cockblocking mostly. You could run pics for me

Post: #48

el mechanico - I'm game.

Post: #49

Some of those chicks I would check for hail damage.

Post: #50

(02-08-2012 02:19 PM)Moma Wrote:  Athlone - Not a justification but bear in mind that your NFL and football guys are athletes and the onus is not on being as big as possible

Yes it is. Weight gain is a core component of any D1 strength program-coaches are always trying to bulk you up as much as they possibly can. They'll even modify your diet for the purpose (many linemen and linebackers are on special high-carb 4-5000+ calorie diets, and I was once on something similar to this). NFL programs are just more intense.

Muscle weighs more than fat does and the programs involve lots of lifting, so you can imagine the results.

That a non-athlete female (who, being a woman, lacks the bulky muscle such athletes carry) can outweigh such men (who, as I said, are constantly trying to bulk up) says quite a bit about her eating habits. That's no easy feat.

Quote:Secondly, using the BMI as an index is inaccurate as it fails to take into consideration, bone structure and lean muscle mass. According to the BMI, I have been overweight since I was 13 and no one has ever called me fat in my life.

I'm overweight too, but that justification can only go so far. One can be overweight and still have fairly low body fat (see: most NFL and major college football players).

However, to reach that level of morbid obesity (we're talking above the 99th percentile here, even in the USA) is simply not possible for a woman (who, lacking testosterone, cannot build mountains of muscle as a male athlete can) without a truckload of blubber.

The BMI is inaccurate to a degree (especially when it comes to drawing a line between the just overweight and the "healthy"), but it isn't that inaccurate. A woman can't get a measure that high without a ton of body fat. Maybe she kept it all in place better than others (hence your attraction), but it still had to be there.

Quote:Thirdly, since I have come to North America, I've been meeting these heavy weights by the truck loads. In London, I only knew two lizards in the 300lb club and remember I grew up in London and met NUFF gyals.

North Americans (especially Americans) are huge. This is the truth.

Quote:For me, she passed the boner test. As long as she has the waist, onion like ass, breasts, passable face, and limited level of cottage cheese, I don't biz if she weighs 400lbs. If she doesn't look unacceptably overweight to me, I'll stroke the shyt out of her.

Fair enough, I guess.