Post: #26

I had the primary outbreak which lasted two weeks and was only on the shaft. Haven't had a secondary yet a month later. Overall, the outbreak isn't that uncomfortable; it's the social effects that are bothersome.

Post: #27

You know it's possible that you may never again get another outbreak, right? It seems like you are preparing for a life of constant outbreaks.

I understand a recent diagnosis like this can be devastating, but I'd adopt a wait and see attitude. Until then, wrap it up.

Post: #28

Just act to others how you would like them to act towards you. Personally I dont think you should bang at all unless you can guarantee that you are not going to transmitt the virus. The girl was not having an outbreak and she still infected you.

Post: #29

Are outbreaks very noticeable? I had a wart/pimple looking thing pop up on my head a few years and almost had a heart attack. It went away after a few days and I haven't seen anything since.

Post: #30

Herpes is nothing.

I say that as someone who does not have them, so it's not a self-interested statement.

Talk to a dermatologist. She'll laugh in your face at this obsession.

Post: #31

Well, two weeks ago I thought I caught the clap. Went, got tested and NEGATIVE. Probably some low level UTI or possible false negative. Who knows. I am still taking the antibiotics anyway to clear up whatever it is. It certainly is no fun to feel like you caught something. Just made me think about how important it is to wrap it up.

I was going to post it on this forum, but I didn't want to be a buzz kill and threatened of being a troll.

If you have the herp, that sucks but it's not the end of the world. A lot of people get it. Good luck, and wrap it up my bros!

Post: #32

If you have had sex with more than 3 people in your life you probably have an STD. Condoms are a responsible way to handle unwanted pregnancies but as far as STD's go...they are pretty useless.

If people are worried about catching something...you may as well call it quits on women and become a priest or a monk. If you plan on sleeping with many women you should already assume you have STD's period.

cold sores are herpes but it does not stop people from going around kissing each other.
If you have ever had chicken pox you have herpes.

It's only a big deal if you have a shitty immune system and constantly get outbreaks.
same thing goes for warts / HPV.

Post: #33

(02-03-2012 05:17 PM)velkrum Wrote:  If you have had sex with more than 3 people in your life you probably have an STD. Condoms are a responsible way to handle unwanted pregnancies but as far as STD's go...they are pretty useless.

If people are worried about catching something...you may as well call it quits on women and become a priest or a monk. If you plan on sleeping with many women you should already assume you have STD's period.

cold sores are herpes but it does not stop people from going around kissing each other.
If you have ever had chicken pox you have herpes.

It's only a big deal if you have a shitty immune system and constantly get outbreaks.
same thing goes for warts / HPV.

This is the real talk.

Most STD's are harmless. Wear a condom and don't worry about the consequences, because they aren't serious enough to worry about.

Post: #34

If you're not a troll, then I'd suggest supplementing with an amino acid called "L-Lysine".

Post: #35

(02-03-2012 03:56 PM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  Agreed. Fuck anyone who says you should keep raw dogging women without telling them.

it's also illegal

Post: #36

(02-03-2012 06:13 PM)The_CEO Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 03:56 PM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  Agreed. Fuck anyone who says you should keep raw dogging women without telling them.

it's also illegal

Who gives the rat's ass about the legality! Women given herpes to men, so it's only fair to reciprocate.

Post: #37

(02-03-2012 06:18 PM)bengalltigerr Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 06:13 PM)The_CEO Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 03:56 PM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  Agreed. Fuck anyone who says you should keep raw dogging women without telling them.

it's also illegal

Who gives the rat's ass about the legality! Women given herpes to men, so it's only fair to reciprocate.

It ain't cool to knowingly give someone something. What's so hard with, if you happen to have the herp, and you have a flare up, then use a condom or wait a week. I don't understand.

I have personally been told by two very interested women as it's about to happen that they couldn't because of something similar and I greatly appreciated it.

Post: #38

go on valtrex. it reduces the transmission rate significantly and it's effects are long lasting (it will become asymptomatic).
go see a doc and get on it. + wrap it up

Post: #39

@Houston It could have been a single blister which went away like that and still be herpes. It could also have just been a small cyst. Impossible to know without testing it.

I thought about getting valtrex, but I was worried about it showing up in my health records which could lead to difficulties in getting insurance if I ever needed to get it as an individual rather than through employment. I'll see what kind of confidentiality measures my current health insurance uses.

I think my conclusion is that I'm not going to tell girls if I'm not having an outbreak and not in a LTR with them, and just use condoms 100% of the time from now on. Herpes makes you a lot more susceptible to HIV and the majority of people in the US who get HIV from heterosexual sex were infected with herpes first, so that's another good reason to always use condoms from here on out.

I looked at the synthesis of that helicase primase inhibitor, and I think I might be able to pull off the synthesis in my lab. But somehow making drugs at work seems like a bad idea.

Post: #40

(02-03-2012 10:05 PM)altman Wrote:  I think my conclusion is that I'm not going to tell girls if I'm not having an outbreak and not in a LTR with them, and just use condoms 100% of the time from now on.

I don't think that this is unreasonable. People understand the risks in random hookups and I think as long as you stick to this, the chances of transmission are pretty damn low. You gotta figure that every time anyone hooks up with anyone, there is SOME chance of catching SOMETHING.

One thing I would keep in mind is that if you bang a chick and then decide to start a relationship with her, she might get pissed off and think you're dishonest once you tell her.

Post: #41

One of my girlfriends in college had a roommate that had herpes. She was a lesbian that occasionally fucked with guys, and a guy knowingly gave it to her. Her outbreaks were really painful - she couldn't wear jeans because of the rubbing. She wore long flowing skirts, and would take just about anything, including booze, to dull the pain. It's fucked up to knowingly give someone a disease, especially one that can't be cured. Be as responsible as you can.

Post: #42

(02-03-2012 04:56 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Herpes is nothing.

I say that as someone who does not have them, so it's not a self-interested statement.

Talk to a dermatologist. She'll laugh in your face at this obsession.

Recurrent painful blisters on one's dick doesn't seem like nothing.

Key point: hsv-2 is the one that would do that, hsv-1 less SP.

Post: #43

Sorry for doubting your story, and I concur that you don't want to spread this unnecessarily. There's probably some smoking chicks that have it, and it might make that factor moot if you get into a relationship with someone (or someones) that also have it.

It then becomes a non-factor, since you've all been exposed to it and to my knowledge unless it mutates into something that gives additional symptoms, further exposure does no harm.

Bengaltiger comment shows thoughtless irresponsibilty for advocating thoughtlessly spreading this, and in my opinion that kind of complete irresponsibility deserves a warning or ban.

Post: #44

Quote:If you have ever had chicken pox you have herpes.

You're wrong. It's not the same virus. It's part of the herpesviridae family, but it is NOT the virus. Getting chickenpox will not make you have herpes symptoms nor make you test positive for HSV antibodies.

There are also two strains of herpes, type-1 (usually oral), type-2 (usually genital). They prefer to hang out in their respective reasons, though cross infecting is possible (but pretty rare). And it's also not true you probably have an STD if you had sex with more than two women. You can test for all major STDs except molluscum and warts (hpv). Mollscum isn't too common (though it's fucking disgusting looking and lasts 6-12 months until your body cures itself) and harmless. And most strains of HPV do not cause warts or even any symptoms.

JUST DROPPIN SOME TRUTH BOMBS.

Oh, and your body takes 30-90 days to seroconvert, so getting tested right after a potential herpes/HIV exposure is useless.

Quote:Condoms are a responsible way to handle unwanted pregnancies but as far as STD's go...they are pretty useless.

Also bullshit. Condoms protect totally against HIV, all bacterial infections, and SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the risk of transmitting herpes/hpv. It takes a good amount of friction to transmit HSV, so your inner thigh touching her vag has a far less chance of giving you the virus than your cock. Don't listen to this guy, players. Chickenpox is not HSV and wearing condoms eliminates or at least SIGNIFICANTLY reduces your chance of catching anything.

Post: #45

(02-03-2012 06:18 PM)bengalltigerr Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 06:13 PM)The_CEO Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 03:56 PM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  Agreed. Fuck anyone who says you should keep raw dogging women without telling them.

it's also illegal

Who gives the rat's ass about the legality! Women given herpes to men, so it's only fair to reciprocate.

Between this, and your extreme homophobia, you are the biggest fucking clown on this forum. You add no value, and I can't imagine what a weirdo you are in real life.

Post: #46

Wow there is a lot of misinformation in this thread. Thanks Scarlet for bringing some truth to the table.

Post: #47

(02-07-2012 11:17 AM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  You're wrong. It's not the same virus. It's part of the herpesviridae family, but it is NOT the virus. Getting chickenpox will not make you have herpes symptoms nor make you test positive for HSV antibodies.

There are also two strains of herpes, type-1 (usually oral), type-2 (usually genital).
JUST DROPPIN SOME TRUTH BOMBS.

Herpes is a virus that can spread from person to person through skin-to-skin contact PERIOD !!

Chicken Pox is not HSV but HSV and chicken pox are both herpes. Hopefully you understand the concept.

Quote:It takes a good amount of friction to transmit HSV, so your inner thigh touching her vag has a far less chance of giving you the virus than your cock. Don't listen to this guy, players. Chickenpox is not HSV and wearing condoms eliminates or at least SIGNIFICANTLY reduces your chance of catching anything.

A good amount of friction ?? sorry...your (truth bomb) bro science holds no weight with me.

If a girl has HSV lesions that both of you are unaware of there is a pretty good chance you are going to make raw skin to skin contact with those lesions and contract the HSV virus, condom or no condom.

your truth bombs are nothing more than delusional water balloons. Wear condoms all you want but don't be so naive to think they are effective against anything other than unwanted pregnancies.

• If you (knowingly or unknowingly) sleep with a girl that has an STD ASSUME YOU WILL CATCH IT.
• If you (knowingly or unknowingly) have an STD ASSUME YOU WIL GIVE IT.
  

You can live your life in constant fear of STD's or you can accept the fact that sex has it's occupational hazards and every time you go in (condom or no condom) there is a chance you will come out with something extra.

I know for some of you this might be hard to accept....welcome to REAL LIFE.

Post: #48

Dude, just get Valtrex, it reduces the rate of infection to nil along with a condom. don't spread it...with time it will become dormant.

Post: #49

You don't have to get butt-hurt because I schooled your wack claims, and I'm about to do it again:

Quote:Herpes is a virus that can spread from person to person through skin-to-skin contact PERIOD !!

No shit. No one said otherwise.

Quote:Chicken Pox is not HSV but HSV and chicken pox are both herpes. Hopefully you understand the concept.

No, YOU don't understand and are REPEATING WHAT I JUST SAID. HSV (commonly known as herpes) is part of the herpesviridae virus family, which is quite large. Chickenpox is in the same family, but it's not 'herpes' (the colloquial term for HSV). You said:

Quote:If you have ever had chicken pox you have herpes.

This is misleading and not true. If you had said "if you have ever had chicken pox you have a virus that's classified in the herpesviridae family" that would be accurate. But it's not the same as 'having herpes'.

Quote:A good amount of friction ?? sorry...your (truth bomb) bro science holds no weight with me.

Ask a dermatologist or a doctor who specializes in infectious diseases. Your chance of contracting herpes drastically increases with prolonged friction/rubbing of the lesion as opposed to sporadic/light contact.

Quote:If a girl has HSV lesions that both of you are unaware of there is a pretty good chance you are going to make raw skin to skin contact with those lesions and contract the HSV virus, condom or no condom.

If she has lesions inside her vagina (which is possible), a condom will certainly protect you. Less so on the outside/skin areas. Likewise if you have lesions on your cock and they are fully covered by the condom, your chances of transmitting it are significantly decreased. But you shouldn't be fucking while you're having an outbreak.

Quote:Wear condoms all you want but don't be so naive to think they are effective against anything other than unwanted pregnancies.
If you (knowingly or unknowingly) sleep with a girl that has an STD ASSUME YOU WILL CATCH IT.
If you (knowingly or unknowingly) have an STD ASSUME YOU WIL GIVE IT.

And you're back to the bullshit. Condoms are 100% effective against HIV, chlam, gon, etc. They significantly reduce the chance of transmission of herpes and hpv. Do some research. I don't know what else to say. It is patently false that condoms are only good for pregnancy prevention and two seconds of google will back me up. Or talk to a doctor. Do you have herpes or something? Why are you spreading untruths?

Post: #50

Well I am no expert, but I have done a bit of research on this subject, so I will share what I read:

The first outbreak is the worst, normally lasts two to three weeks, if you take valtrex (acyclovir) should clear up. It's plausible that a person can only have one break out, if they have a healthy immune system, and live a stress free lifestyle, minor "flare ups" may occur.

A persons outbreak can range from multiple painful, blistering sores, to only one or two sores and minor discomfort.

Taking valtrex (acyclovir) greatly reduces the rate of transmission (up to 70%), if you take it twice a day.

The virus weakens over time, people that have had it for over 10+ years, will most likely not have outbreaks and have a low % of risking spreading to someone else.

The reality of spreading the virus is about exposure, from what I read online, when a person doesn't have an outbreak (sores) and has a healthy immune system the virus is dormant 90% of the time, that means that you're only "shedding" the virus about 10% of the time, that amounts to roughly 3 days a month or maybe close to 40 days a year.

If you have an outbreak or a "flare up", you will have a much higher risk of transmission to a new sex parter, I'd imagine with sores it would be close to 100%.

Flare ups typically aren't a full blown outbreak of sores, but something like chaffing, a mild rash, or for women I've heard about "yeast infection" like symptoms.

Supposedly 1 in 5 Americans have the herp, supposedly 1 in 4 for women.

Many people have the herp, and are asymptomatic and don't know that they carry the virus, or never have a full blown outbreak of actual sores, so it never gets diagnosed.

The leading factors that cause an outbreak include, stress, a weak immune system, and having a lot of sex with new partners, or having sex with a partner that also carries the virus. The more rough the sex, and any "pussy burns", cuts, scrapes, etc. on the dick will increase the likelyhood of contracting, spreading, or having an outbreak.

Condoms supposedly reduce the rate of HSV-2 transmission by 50%, and considering that with a healthy immune system a person will typically only "shed" the virus 10% of the time, the possibility of transmission is pretty low.

Supposedly a person can have an outbreak in their entire genital region, which includes the balls and are around the penis, but most men have the outbreak on the penis.

It is extremely unlikely that a person will spread HSV-1 (oral herpes) to the genital region and vice versa, unless you happen to get head from a woman that has a cold sore, or you have a genital sore and she sucks you dick, and gets one on her mouth (you get the idea).

Supposedly the amino acid "lysine" helps boost the immune system, and helps to prevent outbreaks.

Overall herpes is not good, but certainly not as bad as many make it out to be, it mostly has a social stigma attached to it, but can definitely complicate (in a bad way) your love/sex life, especially if you meet a chick you like and want to get into a relationship.

Smashing a new girl once or twice raw, most likely nothing will get spread from either partner, having sex multiple times over a period of time increases the likelihood.

A lot of people probably have herpes and are asymptomatic or never had a full blown outbreak, so they never caught it.

Either way, if you're a guy with a high notch count and you raw dog frequently, I'd consider yourself lucky that you haven't caught it, esp. if you live in the U.S.