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(02-02-2012 07:59 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Now, I know this is a topic that is sure to bring on some haters, but I don't mean to take it there. I've noticed a lot of French bashing in a couple of threads. Even talks about nuking their country.

Whoa.

I'm no fan of Parisians, but I dig Paris. And I dig French women. I like their culture generally.

That said, regardless of what you may think of the country and its people, you've got to give the French props for their social consciousness. They will unite quick to protect themselves against the forces that be, as this clip easily demonstrates. I think those of us in the Anglo world could stand to learn a thing or two from them.




Thanks very munch for raising the issue.The french bashing on this forum is a complete turn off for me.It's very sad that some dudes with such narrow minded opinion call themselves player..wooow!!
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(02-02-2012 08:16 PM)durangotang Wrote:  
The French are arrogant, rude, and believe their shit doesn't smell. They are also pretty lazy and want the good life, but don't want to pay for it. Surrendering in WWII, having Americans
and English liberate their country, only to put up signs telling Americans to "go home" didn't win our hearts over.

That said, each individual is unique and I would like to spend some time in France. It's a beautiful country that has it all geographically, great food, good wine, feminine women, and excellent style. I am sure that Americans and French could learn a lot from each other - maybe the perfect complimentary Yin and Yang.

I bet you never put a foot in france but it doesn't stop you making such ignorant comments! You say we're lazy.
know few things about us, is that we're not/don't want to be slaves of capitalism like..you know who i think,right?
We want to retire at 60 and not 67 not because we don't want to work but after a certain age you body is becoming so messed up that it's almost impossible to enjoy life(traveling,grandchildren etc..).To many including me it's not fair to ask a guy who works in building trade for 40 years to continue after 60!!Screw those who think the contrary!

about wars??
You also need to mention that if france hadn't entered the American Revolutionary War to help out you'd be certainly talking with an english accent from yorkshire long before you can think of us talking german.

But i agree we should/could learn a lot from one another

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(02-02-2012 08:16 PM)Moma Wrote:  [quote='Mr.GM' pid='154274' dateline='1328230949']
Why Americans hate the French so much ?

The question is, why do the French hate the Americans so much? Again, as Vacancier said, one can't pigeonhole them as Parisians but let me tell you, because I look like an American, I got the shit treatment in Paris.

Even when I was going back to Britain, I tried to ask the coach driver where to put my luggage. He sneered at me and said something along the lines of
"Oh you Americans, you think..blah blah"

Very condescending. In my observation, it's a part of the French culture to criticise, moan and complain.

Don't get me wrong, the Brits are just as bad. The only difference is, I speak fluent English with Brit accent so I guess I get a bit of a pass with the Brits.

But both are moaners and neither like each other. And with all Hen has posted about France,
I still thank my lucky stars that I grew up in England as opposed to France.
If I grew up in France, my self esteem would be in the toilet, guaranteed.


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I pulled more girls in the UK than any other place in europe.Being born in france made me aware of a lot of things which one called by english "The french flair"
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(02-03-2012 05:21 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  I forgive any country that can produce totty like this
That's just effortless class:




Laetitia Casta and Alizée both have Corsican blood. It's probably not an accident.

A Rooshv forum team must be sent to explore Corsica asap Idea

I've never been there personally... Is the patriotism of the locals a game-killer for outsiders ? I for sure would never get involved in a fight with Corsican guys.
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(02-03-2012 10:15 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  Most people judge the French by their experience in Paris.

That's a bit like judging Americans by their experience in Manhattan & West Brooklyn.

Yeah, I think it's really more of a big city thing.

My question though is this:

Since French people are always so rude to Americans, and since the French are p*ssys and Americans are so tough, how come you don't see Americans knocking out French people all over the streets of Paris?

I mean, you would think there would be French guys getting KO'd every two minutes.

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Americans are arrogant, rude, and believe their shit doesn't smell. They work insane hours to buy things and think this is the good life. Americans believe that vacations are a waste of time and a sign of weakness. Americans think they won WWII single handedly and the other allies, especially Russia, did nothing. Americans forget that one of their most important and vital symbols of freedom, the Statue of Liberty, was made in France and was a gift from that nation.
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I think that the movie Midnight in Paris portraits this really well.

The movie shows the open-minded and curious American/Foreigner (Owen Wilson's character) who will obviously like France in oposition to the majority of Shallow and stupid men and women that only care about showing off and a stupid big house in the suburbs , that type will obviously hate France.

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(02-04-2012 10:28 AM)letalon noir Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 08:16 PM)durangotang Wrote:  
The French are arrogant, rude, and believe their shit doesn't smell. They are also pretty lazy and want the good life, but don't want to pay for it. Surrendering in WWII, having Americans
and English liberate their country, only to put up signs telling Americans to "go home" didn't win our hearts over.

That said, each individual is unique and I would like to spend some time in France. It's a beautiful country that has it all geographically, great food, good wine, feminine women, and excellent style. I am sure that Americans and French could learn a lot from each other - maybe the perfect complimentary Yin and Yang.

I bet you never put a foot in france but it doesn't stop you making such ignorant comments! You say we're lazy.
know few things about us, is that we're not/don't want to be slaves of capitalism like..you know who i think,right?
We want to retire at 60 and not 67 not because we don't want to work but after a certain age you body is becoming so messed up that it's almost impossible to enjoy life(traveling,grandchildren etc..).To many including me it's not fair to ask a guy who works in building trade for 40 years to continue after 60!!Screw those who think the contrary!

about wars??
You also need to mention that if france hadn't entered the American Revolutionary War to help out you'd be certainly talking with an english accent from yorkshire long before you can think of us talking german.

But i agree we should/could learn a lot from one another

Cordially

Amen at least someone agrees with me.
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(02-04-2012 11:23 AM)Tresor Wrote:  
(02-03-2012 05:21 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  I forgive any country that can produce totty like this
That's just effortless class:




Laetitia Casta and Alizée both have Corsican blood. It's probably not an accident.

A Rooshv forum team must be sent to explore Corsica asap Idea

I've never been there personally... Is the patriotism of the locals a game-killer for outsiders ? I for sure would never get involved in a fight with Corsican guys.

Interesting,I'll have to visit .I've heard good things about that place.
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(02-03-2012 05:21 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  Interesting,I'll have to visit .I've heard good things about that place.

I wouldn't recommend Corsica to anyone if you're not with someone from there, even the French people are not welcome in Corsica hahaha
The island is really beautiful but some guys are really crazy dropping bombs to protect their island from new buildings...
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(02-02-2012 07:59 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Now, I know this is a topic that is sure to bring on some haters, but I don't mean to take it there. I've noticed a lot of French bashing in a couple of threads. Even talks about nuking their country.

Whoa.

I'm no fan of Parisians, but I dig Paris. And I dig French women. I like their culture generally.

That said, regardless of what you may think of the country and its people, you've got to give the French props for their social consciousness. They will unite quick to protect themselves against the forces that be, as this clip easily demonstrates. I think those of us in the Anglo world could stand to learn a thing or two from them.




I agree that the French are not passive sheeple that take shit laying down from their government or big corporations, however, it is undeniable that some major social problems exist there. With regards to immigration, France is probably the last place in the developed world that I would want my country to emulate.

An excellent movie to check out is Mathieu Kassovitz's film "La Haine", made in 1995, kind of like a French version of Menace to Society.

Also, listening to French rap (which is quite good), groups like NTM, IAM, Fonky Family and Sniper, you'll see that all is not peaceful in the land of Liberté, égalité, fraternité, especially if you have a name like Said or Mohamed!
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(02-04-2012 03:33 PM)scotian Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 07:59 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Now, I know this is a topic that is sure to bring on some haters, but I don't mean to take it there. I've noticed a lot of French bashing in a couple of threads. Even talks about nuking their country.

Whoa.

I'm no fan of Parisians, but I dig Paris. And I dig French women. I like their culture generally.

That said, regardless of what you may think of the country and its people, you've got to give the French props for their social consciousness. They will unite quick to protect themselves against the forces that be, as this clip easily demonstrates. I think those of us in the Anglo world could stand to learn a thing or two from them.




I agree that the French are not passive sheeple that take shit laying down from their government or big corporations, however, it is undeniable that some major social problems exist there. With regards to immigration, France is probably the last place in the developed world that I would want my country to emulate.

An excellent movie to check out is Mathieu Kassovitz's film "La Haine", made in 1995, kind of like a French version of Menace to Society.

Also, listening to French rap (which is quite good), groups like NTM, IAM, Fonky Family and Sniper, you'll see that all is not peaceful in the land of Liberté, égalité, fraternité, especially if you have a name like Said or Mohamed!

Yeah. With respect to immigration, I wouldn't say France can compete with the Anglo world. Within Europe, London reigns supreme as the city to immigrate to and make something of yourself. Their system and culture is far more accepting and open to the world.

If I was concerned with economic mobility and had to live in Europe and just start out somewhere, I'd probably pick the UK, specifically London. As a black man, that's the place where I saw many black men doing well for themselves. Lots of brothers suited up going to work and looking real professional, just like we have in DC, NYC or Atlanta. In the Latin European countries (Spain and France), this was much less the case. I usually saw African men hanging out in parks, either unemployed or working in the informal economy (selling pirated movies, clothing, or w/e).

In the developed world, nothing beats the US (and Canada). Both countries depend on immigration, they just have their unique policies once people immigrate there.

I like both systems.

I actually like the US' immigration policy of assimilation. Extreme nutjobs on the fringes aside, there's a general view that once you come over here (legally), you are expected to be an "American." It doesn't matter where you come from, even if it's a culture that has endured thousands of years throughout many civilizations, you are now just an American. I think that's dope.

Canada promotes multiculturalism, which is also cool. I actually think Canada has done a better job of integrating people in spite of this policy that promotes that people maintain their cultural identities. They lead the developed world in the % of interracial marriages and I've never seen the degree of economic integration--across all income levels--as I have in Toronto. You don't really see that in the US. The higher you move up in the economic strata, the more people look the same. You have entire neighborhoods like that.

In Toronto, I saw evidence of a well-integrated society at every level, even in the historically wealthy neighborhoods.

I think North America is the model to emulate for those countries seeking to promote economic integration on a racial/ethnic level.

With respect to cultural/social integration, I think Brazil leads the pack. They've done an admirable job of making (and embracing) their society as a hybrid of many influences: African, European, Latin, Japanese, etc.
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(02-04-2012 11:28 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  
(02-03-2012 10:15 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  Most people judge the French by their experience in Paris.

That's a bit like judging Americans by their experience in Manhattan & West Brooklyn.

Yeah, I think it's really more of a big city thing.

My question though is this:

Since French people are always so rude to Americans, and since the French are p*ssys and Americans are so tough, how come you don't see Americans knocking out French people all over the streets of Paris?

I mean, you would think there would be French guys getting KO'd every two minutes.

What gives?

If one was to get arrested in Europe as a foreigner, it would be a bad bad thing. I don't play around with foreign authorities at all and I am sure most travellers share the same sentiment. I don't trust how foreign feds would treat a dude who got out of line. And Americans don't knock out guys who are rude to them as a general rule. If they did, the streets of New York would be littered with unconscious New Yorkers Blush

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(02-04-2012 03:33 PM)scotian Wrote:  
(02-02-2012 07:59 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Now, I know this is a topic that is sure to bring on some haters, but I don't mean to take it there. I've noticed a lot of French bashing in a couple of threads. Even talks about nuking their country.

Whoa.

I'm no fan of Parisians, but I dig Paris. And I dig French women. I like their culture generally.

That said, regardless of what you may think of the country and its people, you've got to give the French props for their social consciousness. They will unite quick to protect themselves against the forces that be, as this clip easily demonstrates. I think those of us in the Anglo world could stand to learn a thing or two from them.




I agree that the French are not passive sheeple that take shit laying down from their government or big corporations, however, it is undeniable that some major social problems exist there. With regards to immigration, France is probably the last place in the developed world that I would want my country to emulate.

An excellent movie to check out is Mathieu Kassovitz's film "La Haine", made in 1995, kind of like a French version of Menace to Society.

Also, listening to French rap (which is quite good), groups like NTM, IAM, Fonky Family and Sniper, you'll see that all is not peaceful in the land of Liberté, égalité, fraternité, especially if you have a name like Said or Mohamed!

Finally. Someone not blinded by pussy. The way some of the guys in here chat is like they have never been to France. Oh wait, even Haiti is great if you go there with lots of cash and you stay in a five star hotel. I have TONS of indigenous French friends (born and bred in France) who do not recommend France at all as the place to live.

Like I said, no beef with French people but I see where Harry is coming from. Kosko might have just hit the nail on the head, French are xenophobic.
One of my bredrins schooled in the south of France (not Paris) and he continued to give me the 411 on how mans would return back to uni all draipsed up by the Feds. The further away from Paris you go, the more essential it is that you have to be fluent in French so all that 'did you speak French to them?' theory goes out of the window in terms of behaviour.

However, my aunties had a great time.

Also, I've heard Italy is not the spot either. However, my female cousins have enjoyed themselves immensely. No surprise really, since Italians love chocolate...

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(02-04-2012 09:14 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-04-2012 11:28 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  
(02-03-2012 10:15 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  Most people judge the French by their experience in Paris.

That's a bit like judging Americans by their experience in Manhattan & West Brooklyn.

Yeah, I think it's really more of a big city thing.

My question though is this:

Since French people are always so rude to Americans, and since the French are p*ssys and Americans are so tough, how come you don't see Americans knocking out French people all over the streets of Paris?

I mean, you would think there would be French guys getting KO'd every two minutes.

What gives?

If one was to get arrested in Europe as a foreigner, it would be a bad bad thing. I don't play around with foreign authorities at all and I am sure most travellers share the same sentiment. I don't trust how foreign feds would treat a dude who got out of line. And Americans don't knock out guys who are rude to them as a general rule. If they did, the streets of New York would be littered with unconscious New Yorkers Blush

Right.

But remember the French are "p*ssys" right? And always rude.

And Americans are bad*ss.

So you would think that Americans would be kicking their *ss all over Paris.

And kicking French cops *sses too.

Because the French are p*ssys and Americas are so tough. Right?

It just all doesn't add up for me.

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(02-04-2012 09:49 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Right.

But remember the French are "p*ssys" right? And always rude.

And Americans are bad*ss.

So you would think that Americans would be kicking their *ss all over Paris.

And kicking French cops *sses too.

Because the French are p*ssys and Americas are so tough. Right?

It just all doesn't add up for me.

Hmm. I didn't realise that was how Americans saw themselves on a global level. As badasses. You make a valid point. I see where you going with it.

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The State of California's employee pension fund controlled 5% of France's stock market at one point.

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This guy was born in the wrong time. He belongs to battlefields in the middle ages, holding and axe in each hand.

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(02-06-2012 12:17 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  
(02-04-2012 10:51 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  


This guy was born in the wrong time. He belongs to battlefields in the middle ages, holding and axe in each hand.

Haha. That's exactly what I thought when I saw the video.
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This guy was born in the wrong time. He belongs to battlefields in the middle ages, holding and axe in each hand.

Haha. That's exactly what I thought when I saw the video.

It is NO coicidence he is a rugby player. It is the only kind of environment a guy like him could fit in on our over-civilized society of nowadays. Either that or behind bars, possibly.

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(02-04-2012 10:51 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  


This guy was born in the wrong time. He belongs to battlefields in the middle ages, holding and axe in each hand.

Haha. That's exactly what I thought when I saw the video.

It is NO coicidence he is a rugby player. It is the only kind of environment a guy like him could fit in on our over-civilized society of nowadays. Either that or behind bars, possibly.

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