Post: #1

Can anyone point me in the direction of a list of services like "VIDA" that outsource dating app management. I have no time for this and am looking to pay a premium to someone really good for full time management. Open to a private deal as well.

... And yes, I understand the downsides of outsourcing but I'm sure some of you will be unable to resist the snarky remarks.

Thanks!

Post: #2

How much are you paying?

Post: #3

I’d be curious for this as well.

Post: #4

I tried VIDA on their "Platinum" tier and paid over $1000 a month.
I learned from their sloppiness that they were logging in from the Philippines and clearly outsourcing the work. Their writers lines were also extremely cheesy and not my style.

Obviously, it's a ton of tedious swiping/messaging so the whole business model is pretty hard to make work I feel unless someone was just constantly glued to phone(s) for their clients.

I'd be willing to pay premium north of that for the right person with the right amount of time. Thanks.

Post: #5

Actually I know the owner personally of a tinder management company. I saw him get some really impressive results for his clients myself. He's a cool guy and very honest.. here's his site: https://www.prodatingassistant.com/

Post: #6

Thank you.

Any other strong services?

Post: #7

(11-10-2018 05:11 PM)tact Wrote:  I tried VIDA on their "Platinum" tier and paid over $1000 a month.
I learned from their sloppiness that they were logging in from the Philippines and clearly outsourcing the work. Their writers lines were also extremely cheesy and not my style.

Obviously, it's a ton of tedious swiping/messaging so the whole business model is pretty hard to make work I feel unless someone was just constantly glued to phone(s) for their clients.

I'd be willing to pay premium north of that for the right person with the right amount of time. Thanks.

Just about everyone outsources English language social engineering work to the Phillipines. Mind than anywhere else offers less competence in English or much higher prices.

(11-10-2018 10:16 PM)tact Wrote:  Thank you.

Any other strong services?

For the price a strong service would offer, should one exist, you can likely retain a coach to help you work on making your Tinder game more efficient.

I was given a hard sell for a tinder outsourcing service at a business incubator, and the poor kid not only failed to sell me. He failed to show the necessary prowess suggesting he could identify people capable of selling on behalf of me. Then again I find the playful stage of early online game fun, and it sounds like you don't.

Apparently there's ways to put tinder on a desktop. The rest of the business model involves handing scripts to the outsourced workers which they follow with variable levels of fidelity. The whole online dating outsourcing business seems like a get in, grab as much cash as you can, and get out fast business. Unless your time is really that valuable, there's little reason to avoid the early stage practice with the kittens.

Post: #8

I also have some interest in hiring but especially if it's someone who is good at game. Bascially, what I want is for someone to get girls to meet me at X place, at Y times, on Z days in different cities before I even set foot at that place.

I think a very good PUA is gonna be the guy to be best qualified or positioned to perform this service.

This could be a great business idea for someone on the forum who has a good rep, to offer a service where they online game for the guys, set up dates, and all that

Has anyone had good results getting random people with no pickup knowledge to set up dates?

Post: #9

The best method is to have someone doing the time costly aspect of swiping and initial messages. With my method every girl gets the same few messages and I’m purely playing the numbers.

I lost 60% of women because my assistant was feeding them my social media and only 40% of matches were willing to bite (that is message me on Instagram).

It was only once they messaged my IG that they were actually interacting with me, not my assistant. And still I was giving 95% of those girls the same messages over and over again. After looking at their pics I decided it wasn’t worth meeting them. I’m a bit picky especially when I get busy with other things.

You really need a second IG which you can use for the really hot girls. The type of girls who will never go to the trouble to message you first. So then we tried having the assistant message them on IG too.

I only interacted with the hot girls on my second “personal IG”. The problem with this was that even after the assistant added them and messaged they still rarely messaged back. These are your 10k plus follower girls who don’t even look st their IG feeds or DMs.

The upside was I was only interacting with 10 or less girls a week instead of thousands. And they were all 7 or higher.

Many of the really hot girls (8+) actually had booking websites and agents listed for promotional contact work. Lmao.

You may actually be better off matching the 7+ girls on tinder and catching them there and nowhere else. This only works when they’re down for a hookup. If even a day goes by you are forgotten.

My conclusion after all this was that it’s not worth paying someone to do all this. Even with training they can’t get it right.

If you’re doing a bang mission then you really want to do it ALL yourself. This is because of the scheduling and prioritizing that has to go on within the first few messages.

I tried having the assistant feed them to my WhatsApp but too many girls don’t have a photo. It was confusing who was hot and who was a catfish. Which girls were DTF, etc.

The system works poorly at best for pipelining unless you have a good back story. Even then letting too much time pass fucks up momentum with matches.

If you’re using line or WeChat it’s posisble to have your assistant sign in remotely though it’s challenging. This could be worthy it if you’re also getting translation services included.

Post: #10

(11-11-2018 12:36 AM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  Has anyone had good results getting random people with no pickup knowledge to set up dates?

No.

(11-11-2018 02:34 AM)Ten Feet Tall Right Now Wrote:  The best method is to have someone doing the time costly aspect of swiping and initial messages.
...
If you’re doing a bang mission then you really want to do it ALL yourself. This is because of the scheduling and prioritizing that has to go on within the first few messages.

Yes.
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If you must, someone referred me to this guy. But, I didn't use him, so not an endorsement.
EDIT: removed original link. Didn't realize it was a banned forum member.

Another idea, to test the waters for any guy who wants, would be to jump on a task site (Fiverr, TR, even craigslist gigs). Recruit ten different guys, give them the script, and run tryouts. I can't imagine you would get worse quality than the outsourcing you get from VIDA and the like.

Post: #11

(11-11-2018 04:23 AM)Tiger Man Wrote:  If you must, someone referred me to this guy. But, I didn't use him, so not an endorsement.
Tinder Outsource

Ah, yes, this guy:

He's been banned from this forum:
/user-44122.html

He's also been banned (I believe) from Ohio State University for doing uncalibrated daygame approaches on campus:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OSU/comments/1o...nd_campus/

I've seen his text game. It's idiocy. You don't want him messaging for you in any way, shape, or form.

Post: #12

(11-11-2018 04:29 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 04:23 AM)Tiger Man Wrote:  If you must, someone referred me to this guy. But, I didn't use him, so not an endorsement.
Tinder Outsource

Ah, yes, this guy:

He's been banned from this forum:
/user-44122.html

He's also been banned (I believe) from Ohio State University for doing uncalibrated daygame approaches on campus:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OSU/comments/1o...nd_campus/

I've seen his text game. It's idiocy. You don't want him messaging for you in any way, shape, or form.

My bad. Good call.

Post: #13

Hey if anyone is really good at online game here and a highly repped member, message me if you have some interest in working with me on my online game.

What this guy wants takes a lot of skill and time to be done optimally. Arriving in a city with 10 to 20 hot leads, and multiple dates set up for 3 days might be pretty sweet way to do some travel.

Cheers!

Post: #14

Lont-term, the future of this sort of thing is chatbots. There have already been attempts but they have gotten shut down by TPTB.

Post: #15

Sounds like https://www.prodatingassistant.com/ is the best bet. Thanks.

Makes sense you really have to outsource to PH.
This would be a tremendous amount of work for someone to manage even 4-5 accounts and actually remember anything not to mention.

Post: #16

(11-10-2018 07:45 PM)VideoMagician Wrote:  Actually I know the owner personally of a tinder management company. I saw him get some really impressive results for his clients myself. He's a cool guy and very honest.. here's his site: https://www.prodatingassistant.com/

The guy I mentioned above, I met while traveling in Ukraine. (We are both American.) Anyway, he does have experience as a PUA. We spoke at great length on the topic, and he would demonstrate daygame right in front of me, approach random hot girls. He was also using Tinder quite a lot and experimenting with different types of photos and strategies. If I had more money and less free time, he is the guy I would choose to manage my Tinder. Here is his FB if anyone wants to contact him directly. Facebook.com/steveh

Post: #17

I put in a lot of work on tinder but have enough free time to do it at the moment.

OP, if any of you are interested in talking about this and trying to set something please PM me. We could try to arrange a method, maybe me directing the girls to the client's whatsapp (including forwarding screenshots from tinder/instagram) and letting you guys take care of the rest.

I get a lot of numbers from tinder using 3-4 messages on average. I am a good looking guy however, so YMMV. I'd be willing to do this for free as a trial period and experiment for my own game.

Hit me up.

Post: #18

I did this for 11 months for workaholic business men as a side job which ended last month. I did not know there are even companies for this
I had to know a lot about his bio, preffered girl type, hobbies and so on

But to be honest I would not rate myself as a good Online Gamer. I would say I just cracked the code only 30% which means I get many girls texting me back 2-3 messages. But the transition to the date is not solid yet. Can anyone recommend some good e-books or other advices for this?

The business man paid me around 250 - 400 € per month (depending on the amount of hours I spent per month).

In the beginning he got a lot of matches in his home town but after about 6 months it declined rapidly although he had Tinder Gold and we used a lot of boosts during the Tinder Prime times. So on average he was getting through me 3 first dates with different girls per month but after around 6 months it was getting less and less due to the missing likes/matches so I had to switch to other Dating Apps (which did not help a lot).

In September he went to Ukraine visiting his family for 3 weeks so he translated my standards texts into russian. This was crazy since he got so many matches over there. He was unable to date all the girls within the 3 weeks

3 weeks ago I send him to a photoshooting in the hope of getting more matches/likes in his home town but at the same time he met this one girl from Tinder and now they are almost together so I lost my side job

Post: #19

(11-14-2018 10:21 AM)Naughty_Boy Wrote:  But to be honest I would not rate myself as a good Online Gamer. I would say I just cracked the code only 30% which means I get many girls texting me back 2-3 messages. But the transition to the date is not solid yet. Can anyone recommend some good e-books or other advices for this?

http://www.playingfire.com

Post: #20

I’ve never done online dating as it sounds like it’s hard to punch above your own pay grade, but if I could outsourcing I’d try...

Post: #21

Hey guys,
I've tried reaching out to both of the sites discussed here but no reply.
If anyone has any new recommendations or is interested - let me know. Thanks.

Post: #22

Interesting thread.

I have slightly different needs. I need somebody (or a group of ghostwriters) exclusively when I'm in vacation. Because during my trip, I am mostly always busy with either daygame or dates. So I need somebody during that time. But I only need somebody who answers critical messages from women (e.g. "I don't have time tonight, are you free tomorrow?") and who probably ask some "warmed-up" girls for a sponteanous date in such a situation.

I am quite good in first messages because I do online game since I'm 15 (so for over 20 years now). I see pictures and I immediately have some easy and original opening messages that come to my mind. But I hate incoming messages when I'm doing daygame or worse, when I'm having a date.

So my idea: as soon as I'm going to daygame/a date I send a message to my whatsapp group à la "offline now, need somebody who takes over" and the first ghostwriter who responds, can take over and write down the time he's ready for any incoming important messages from women. The difficult part is to find some reliable people now, who preferably speaks German too.

Post: #23

I'm willing to pay at least $1500+incentives a month to someone really good at this to get Grade A Western talent...
PM me. Thanks.

Post: #24

(01-05-2019 12:34 PM)tact Wrote:  I'm willing to pay at least $1500+incentives a month to someone really good at this to get Grade A Western talent...
PM me. Thanks.

You never responded to my latest PM.

Post: #25

Sorry, I am back here now. I didn't see your old DM and had contacted those two sites with no reply.

Still seeking anyone serious / or who can refer to a good service. Thank you.