Post: #26

I've just never seen the appeal of Madonna, though I admire her marketing skill at convincing the world she was beautiful and sexy when she just always struck me as a tomboyish six. She apes feminine poses to increase her appeal, but there's always something false and mercenary about it, so I see her natural masculinity under the performance.

This is her at 20, in her peak beauty years.



In the mid 80's:



At 28, about to hit the wall. She cruised into her wall over a couple of years, looking like a boy.



At 32, having smashed right into it, still a 'six-with-desperately-increasing makeup and fitness'.



What I think looking at each photo: Haunted, Sexually-Abused Street Kid; Average Girl Aping The Poses Of Prettier Girls; Abrasive Dyke; 40+ Government Office Worker Minus Obesity.

My boner's 'meh' reaction to each photo: Plain and Damaged; Plain; Would Expect To Change My Oil; Too-Old-and-too-Harsh.

Post: #27

Breaking news: Drake claims it wasn't the kiss, it was her lipstick was the reason he was wiping his mouth.

Post: #28

(04-13-2015 04:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Breaking news: Drake claims it wasn't the kiss, it was her lipstick was the reason he was wiping his mouth.

Jesus, only Drake can make this whole situation gayer. Instead of just being disgusted from being kissed by the Crypt Keeper, he complains about her lipstick.

Like it would have been ok if she was wearing a different shade.

Post: #29

(04-13-2015 06:25 PM)Deuce Anna Half Wrote:  

(04-13-2015 04:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Breaking news: Drake claims it wasn't the kiss, it was her lipstick was the reason he was wiping his mouth.

Jesus, only Drake can make this whole situation gayer. Instead of just being disgusted from being kissed by the Crypt Keeper, he complains about her lipstick.

Like it would have been ok if she was wearing a different shade.

She wears 50 shades of penis so...

Post: #30

Fucking LOL Drake really does not dissappoint. He probably gave her his lipstick after the event, his is easier on the lips with some essential oils and salts, manufactured from his own tears

Post: #31

(04-13-2015 04:24 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  I've just never seen the appeal of Madonna, though I admire her marketing skill at convincing the world she was beautiful and sexy when she just always struck me as a tomboyish six. She apes feminine poses to increase her appeal, but there's always something false and mercenary about it, so I see her natural masculinity under the performance.

Exactly AB. But not only that, she is the ultimate dream killer.

How many high profile & talented men has she been with over the years? Each & every one of them has been cowed into submission during the time they spent with her.

Not only that but she will then try run their lives & 1-up them in their own chosen fields. Sean Penn, Warren Beatty, Guy Ritchie (notice all of Ritchie's decent work was done before or after their relationship). At least Penn got a smack down in.

She's the most heinous attention whoring cunt of our time.

I've long thought that she should be locked in a room with Fritzl. That would sort both of them out.

Post: #32

When I was a teenager I saw her nude photos in penthouse magazine. She had hairy armpits! She was incredibly plain looking for a star. I was so let down.

Post: #33

(04-13-2015 06:50 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  How many high profile & talented men has she been with over the years? Each & every one of them has been cowed into submission during the time they spent with her.

Note that Penn and Beatty were both known for being notorious womanisers. The pair of them immediately knocked up and married the very next women that they dated. Warren Beatty knocked up Annette Benning - a good catch for a man his age who claimed to have slept with 12,775 women. Sean Penn knocked up the stunning Robin Wright. Even Ritchie got in on the act.



Respect.

Madonna didn't break their balls. They rejected her masculine dominance and cunty demands for traditionally-feminine, younger women. There is no better public failure of feminism than the woman who sung Oprah worthy yo-go-girl! drivel like this:

You deserve the best in life
So if the time isn't right then move on
Second best is never enough
You'll do much better baby on your own

as ending up alone and increasingly-irrelevant, whilst those men all had younger, hotter wives who provided them with children. Benning and Beatty had four children, and have been married 23 years. Penn and Wright lasted 21 years and two children before their divorce.

Drake's playing the PR Game. I've never had a reaction like that to lipstick. Grandma had granola death breath.

Post: #34

Why is Drake making out with Iggy Pop?

Post: #35

typical drizzy moment fellas. move along.



is it traumatizing? it's completely up to you guys.

Post: #36

She projectile vomited in his mouth since she is possessed, hence the reaction. The angle of the video doesn't quite capture it.

Post: #37

Madonna tasted like either dried piss or mothballs.

Post: #38

Where's Lourdes?

Post: #39

Her daughter is pretty though.

Post: #40

(04-13-2015 04:24 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  I've just never seen the appeal of Madonna, though I admire her marketing skill at convincing the world she was beautiful and sexy when she just always struck me as a tomboyish six.

I agree and I actually think you are being too generous, I always though she was ugly and an ultra attention whore, even when I was a kid and had no idea that concept existed.

Post: #41

(04-14-2015 12:12 AM)Teutatis Wrote:  

(04-13-2015 04:24 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  I've just never seen the appeal of Madonna, though I admire her marketing skill at convincing the world she was beautiful and sexy when she just always struck me as a tomboyish six.

I agree and I actually think you are being too generous, I always though she was ugly and an ultra attention whore, even when I was a kid and had no idea that concept existed.

She had some appeal as a cute girl next door, 1000+ cocks ago:

Post: #42

So I went and saw the video.

Fucking weird, Drake tilted his head back way early, seemingly in anticipation. I thought the "it's staged" comments were bullshit initially but now I'm not so sure.

She looks pretty nasty on stage though. All those bright lights do her no favors.

Post: #43

It does look like it was staged except the part where he tries to hold her hair. That's a classic drake moment.

After all the dick she's taken over the years she was having none of that emo shit.

Post: #44

Arthur Chu swings for the fences. . .

Quote:It’s the year 2015 and I’d like us to get one thing straight: Consent.

Consent about people’s bodies and the boundaries around their bodies, especially (but not only) when we’re talking about sex.

It’s something that hasn’t been respected for most of our history. A lot of us have grown up in cultures where we were taught that consent was implied, or optional, something to be coaxed or nudged or pressured into.

And sometimes that works out. Some people think it’s more fun that way, because they think two partners ought to be able to read unspoken, non-verbal cues without having to resort to verbal ones.

For other people, it doesn’t work out. For quite a lot of people, a lack of verbal consent means they actually don’t want what’s going to happen. And having stuff done to your body that you don’t want is the definition of violation, of dehumanization, of being treated as a thing rather than a person.

For a lot of our history people didn’t see it this way. For a lot of our history we thought it was normal and okay for vast swathes of our population to be treated as things rather than people. Some people still feel that way today, openly. The fact that our morals for most of our history were total crap is why, in fact, feminists are so mad.

Let’s be clear about this. Rape–using someone’s body for your own pleasure against their will–is the second worst thing you can do to someone, just above murder. Even if you really believe that playing games with “blurred lines” of consent is sexy and fun and that the passion and romance will go out of sex if those games end–which isn’t true–there is no pleasure in the world that’s worth the pain caused by inflicting rape on someone.

But let’s be clear about some other things.

This is a universal rule. It’s a basic rule of what human beings don’t do to other human beings.


It doesn’t apply to some people and not others. It doesn’t apply when you think you’re making some broader point about culture or when you concoct some explanation for why it’s “punching up.”

Rape is a gendered crime because by far it is most common as a crime committed by men against women. That doesn’t mean that rape of women by women, of men by women or of men by men doesn’t happen, much less that it’s okay.

It’s not okay that men are raped by other men in prison, for instance. There’s no such thing as “deserving” to be raped, there is no sense in which prison rape constitutes “justice” and we need to stop fucking joking about it.

But it’s also not okay when women rape men, which 46 percent of men who report being raped report happened to them. And yes, in the abstract you can make as a culture we value male and female sexuality differently, that one act “means” something different than another when evaluated by cultural critics, etc., etc.

You know what? A crime still occurred. And telling the victim of a crime that the mechanics of sex or the relative “sexual market value” of their attacker means that on some level they “must have enjoyed it” remains one of the scummiest things you can do.

Let’s get more specific here. You can’t say a male teacher sleeping with an underage female student is rape but not levy the same condemnation on the same situation with the genders reversed. You can’t excuse Mary Kay LeTourneau’s rape of a 12-year-old boy because they ended up getting married, any more than we should excuse the many countries where it’s normal for women to marry their male rapists.

Depicting the nonconsensual groping and harassment of someone onstage is gross. It’s gross when you stage a man doing it to a woman, yes. It’s still gross when you stage a man doing it to a man or a woman doing it to a woman, even if you’re making a point about homophobia in the process.

And if you actually nonconsensually “surprise” someone on stage with a kiss? That’s super gross, regardless of who’s doing it to whom. Even if they, personally, aren’t that shaken up by it and act cool about it afterwards. It’s not an okay thing to do.

And it doesn’t matter if it’s making a point about ageism in Hollywood directed against women. Yes, I completely acknowledge that a ton of the criticism directed at Madonna for kissing Drake was mean, ugly jokes about her age. That doesn’t make it okay.

Indeed, the way those criticisms miss the point demonstrate why that surprise kiss wasn’t okay. The implication that if Madonna had been younger and hotter and someone Drake’s “type” then he couldn’t possibly object to being surprise-kissed by her? That’s the problem.

The fact that Drake had to tell everyone that he was okay with being surprise-kissed because otherwise it’d be insulting Madonna–and all women her age–as “gross”? That’s the problem.

The fact that Madonna thinks the way to prove that women her age can be hot and desirable is to grab a younger guy and kiss him without his permission and have him be cool with it? And that lots of people, including feminists I respect, totally buy that line of reasoning? That’s the problem.

The problem is there’s people still going on about how surprise kisses are no big deal–pointing out “surprise” kisses from classic movies and plays. The problem is we don’t recognize that even comparatively “innocent” acts like an unwanted kiss, unwanted hug, unwanted grab can lead to violation and hurt.

Can we please treat consent as the simple absolute it is? Is it that hard to make it a rule that we don’t do anything to someone else’s body unless you know they want you to do it?

I don’t say this to diminish concern over how it’s women who are primarily, overwhelmingly the victims of rape. I say this because rape culture is gendered, and the idea that men can’t be raped or violated or assaulted or harassed plays directly into it.

It’s why MRAs talk a big game about empathy for male rape victims when it’s time to derail conversations about women but as soon as that task is done go right back to mocking the idea of men being raped as much as your garden-variety sexist jerk does.

MRAs aren’t really mad about men being raped because MRAs don’t really believe in consent in the first place. The “manosphere” concept of sexuality is one where men are perpetually desiring sex, women are perpetually desired, and all interaction between the sexes is one big “game” of keep-away women play against men.

Under such a model, men pushing as hard as they can and “blurring lines” in order to win said game is understandable and laudable. Under such a model, the idea that a man could ever not desire a woman is impossible; claiming such is an ultimate insult toward the woman’s femininity and attractiveness.

This model of the world is rape culture. It’s the model that leads to some men getting away with being serial rapists by normalizing “rape-adjacent sex,” where consensual sex ends up looking like rape and camouflaging rape because men are “supposed” to pursue and women are “supposed” to retreat.

It’s a model that defines sex as a man always taking something from a woman–erasing the real-life complexity of desire, the fact that what people want is immensely complicated regardless of the gender society assigns them, and that sex isn’t about “taking” anything but about two people agreeing to do something together.

And every time you make a joke about a woman being too hot to say no to, every time you mock a man’s description of being victimized by sex as silly or treat the idea that a man could be victimized as ridiculous, every time you play into this unidirectional one-dimensional idea of how violating consent works—

Every time you do that, you feed rape culture. You hurt a lot of men, and you make it a lot easier for men to hurt women.

As always, top shelf Arthur. Spot on.

Re-read that gem again, gents:

Quote:the idea that a man could ever not desire a woman is impossible; claiming such is an ultimate insult toward the woman’s femininity and attractiveness.

Indeed, Arthur.

Post: #45

There are no

a l p h a females.

Her pizda is just too shallow and no ALPHA male wants to fill it.....